Weird Routes

[frankenroad]

That said, I do know of a few state routes that just end at a random place not at any sort of intersection and continue as county roads. Utah 22 near Antimony

OH-269 just north of the exit from East Harbor State Park is another example, seen here.

[skluth]

WI-134 why does it even exist?

It still makes more sense than WI 127. Blame the highway mileage cap.

WI-127 exist to serve the Portage Correctional Facility. I have no idea why WI-134 still exist. In the 70's and 80's WisDOT basically got rid of all the short spurs to nothing however for whatever reason but WI-134 stayed.

The prison is 1000' away from WI 16. Don't explain the need for the other 14 miles.

[thefraze_1020]

Almost every Utah state route numbered over 280. Parking lots, state facilities, etc.

[US 89]

Almost every Utah state route numbered over 280. Parking lots, state facilities, etc.

Eh, most of the 300s routes are normal routes that connect to state parks. Some of the really short ones and the ones that don't connect to other state highways generally aren't signed, but they're real routes that go places, unlike the 280-290s state facility roads and parking lots. At least the weirder stuff isn't usually signed.

That said, there are of course exceptions. 282 is a signed multi-segment route on a university campus, 317 is a parking lot, 320 is entirely off-limits to the public as a training range on a National Guard base, etc...

[kphoger]

Almost every Utah state route numbered over 280. Parking lots, state facilities, etc.

Eh, most of the 300s routes are normal routes that connect to state parks. Some of the really short ones and the ones that don't connect to other state highways generally aren't signed, but they're real routes that go places, unlike the 280-290s state facility roads and parking lots. At least the weirder stuff isn't usually signed.

That said, there are of course exceptions. 282 is a signed multi-segment route on a university campus, 317 is a parking lot, 320 is entirely off-limits to the public as a training range on a National Guard base, etc...

Then, of course, there's this.

[Roadgeekteen]

Those hidden Georgia state routes entirely on interstates

[MATraveler128]

Those hidden Georgia state routes entirely on interstates

Ditto for the ones in Florida.

I-95 - FL 9
I-10 - FL 8
I-75 - FL 93

Etc.

[Max Rockatansky]

Those hidden Georgia state routes entirely on interstates

Ditto for the ones in Florida.

I-95 - FL 9
I-10 - FL 8
I-75 - FL 93

Etc.

The hidden Florida Roads actually are kind of neat when you consider they fit into an overall state level grid.  Even things like the County Roads adhere to the Florida State Road grid for the most part.

[TheGrassGuy]

pretty sure Tennessee does the hidden thing too

[MATraveler128]

Alabama does this too. All their Interstates have a catalog number with a leading 6 assigned to them. For example I-65 is AL 665 and I-59 is AL 659

[Rover_0]

Almost every Utah state route numbered over 280. Parking lots, state facilities, etc.

Eh, most of the 300s routes are normal routes that connect to state parks. Some of the really short ones and the ones that don't connect to other state highways generally aren't signed, but they're real routes that go places, unlike the 280-290s state facility roads and parking lots. At least the weirder stuff isn't usually signed.

That said, there are of course exceptions. 282 is a signed multi-segment route on a university campus, 317 is a parking lot, 320 is entirely off-limits to the public as a training range on a National Guard base, etc...

The 280-320 set (more particularly the 281-299) are definitely the weirdest of the bunch in Utah, but there are a couple state routes that are actual roads connecting to at least a state route on one end: UT-37 and UT-147, both of which are C-shaped at best and don't seem to operate like a belt route. The reasoning behind why they are shaped the way they are isn't apparent to me, other than they morphed into their current shapes over the years. Then you have 147's south(west) end, which suggests that UT-141 could easily be absorbed into 147.

[interstatefan990]

OK-147. Redundant with OK-93 a few miles to the west on its way down to US-70.

[kphoger]

OK-147. Redundant with OK-93 a few miles to the west on its way down to US-70.

You're saying that either OK-147 or OK-93 should be demoted to a county highway?

[interstatefan990]

OK-147. Redundant with OK-93 a few miles to the west on its way down to US-70.

You're saying that either OK-147 or OK-93 should be demoted to a county highway?

No, I'm saying that either one of them shouldn't exist. Are you interpreting this thread as highways that should be redesignated instead of highways that shouldn't have been built in the first place?

[kphoger]

Well, the OP restricted it to limited-access facilities, but that restriction never really happened.  So I guess it's up to our own interpretation.

[interstatefan990]

Well, the OP restricted it to limited-access facilities, but that restriction never really happened.  So I guess it's up to our own interpretation.

A common phenomenon I see on this forum.

[Scott5114]

OK-147. Redundant with OK-93 a few miles to the west on its way down to US-70.

You're saying that either OK-147 or OK-93 should be demoted to a county highway?

No, I'm saying that either one of them shouldn't exist. Are you interpreting this thread as highways that should be redesignated instead of highways that shouldn't have been built in the first place?

That isn't the Oklahoma way of doing things–we like lots of redundancy in our road systems. So one of the roads here maybe wouldn't be a state highway, but the other would in all universes still exist as a county road. (We don't do county highways, so it'd just be named Suchandsuch Road.)

Personally, having clinched both back-to-back a few months ago, I say if you had to ditch one, kill off 93 and keep 147, because 147 is one of my favorite highways in the system. 93 is just kinda meh.

[interstatefan990]

Personally, having clinched both back-to-back a few months ago, I say if you had to ditch one, kill off 93 and keep 147, because 147 is one of my favorite highways in the system. 93 is just kinda meh.

Perhaps the 5000-some residents of Hugo would beg to differ? Just a guess.

[kphoger]

For what it's worth, it appears that OK-147 gets a decent amount of use, but only up to the lake access–whereas OK-93 appears to be more of a real highway link.

OK-93
1700 AADT = northern end @ OK-3
1800 AADT = midpoint @ 1980 Rd
2200 AADT = southern end @ US-70

OK-147
??? AADT = northern end @ OK-3
360 AADT = midpoint @ 1980 Rd
2500 AADT = southern end @ US-70

[Scott5114]

In any case, there are far more suspect routes in Oklahoma's system than 93 and 147. I'd sacrifice 96 (spur to an unincorporated town of about 600) and 77D (spur to a church camp mainly used in the summer) before I'd mess with 93/147.

[MATraveler128]

NM 597 is just a glorified driveway IMO that leads to Four Corners Monument. New Mexico is one of those states that will slap a number on anything, including parking lots, which I find to be weird.

[Max Rockatansky]

NM 597 is just a glorified driveway IMO that leads to Four Corners Monument. New Mexico is one of those states that will slap a number on anything, including parking lots, which I find to be weird.

Utah would have something to say to that.  I'm to understand the preferred method of clinching is to driver the perimeter of said State Route parking lot.

[SD Mapman]

NM 597 is just a glorified driveway IMO that leads to Four Corners Monument. New Mexico is one of those states that will slap a number on anything, including parking lots, which I find to be weird.

Utah would have something to say to that.  I'm to understand the preferred method of clinching is to driver the perimeter of said State Route parking lot.

Also WY 273 in Lusk, it's the driveway for the golf course. Signed and everything!

[US 89]

Almost every Utah state route numbered over 280. Parking lots, state facilities, etc.

Eh, most of the 300s routes are normal routes that connect to state parks. Some of the really short ones and the ones that don't connect to other state highways generally aren't signed, but they're real routes that go places, unlike the 280-290s state facility roads and parking lots. At least the weirder stuff isn't usually signed.

That said, there are of course exceptions. 282 is a signed multi-segment route on a university campus, 317 is a parking lot, 320 is entirely off-limits to the public as a training range on a National Guard base, etc...

The 280-320 set (more particularly the 281-299) are definitely the weirdest of the bunch in Utah, but there are a couple state routes that are actual roads connecting to at least a state route on one end: UT-37 and UT-147, both of which are C-shaped at best and don’t seem to operate like a belt route. The reasoning behind why they are shaped the way they are isn’t apparent to me, other than they morphed into their current shapes over the years. Then you have 147’s south(west) end, which suggests that UT-141 could easily be absorbed into 147.

The thing I've learned with Utah is that route numbering is often less of "this is a route people will take" and more of "we'll do it this way so that we can have a number on a continuous stretch of state maintained road". SR 68 essentially does a 180 in Bountiful because that stretch of 200 West down to US 89 wasn't downloaded in 2001 when the rest of that street was, for example. SR 71 is similar but longer - the E/W portion of that used to be part of SR 111 but got transferred to 71 when part of 111 further west was removed. SR 108 is also another 37/147-type route that nobody is going to follow in its entirety. Would make more sense to transfer the E/W portion to 127, but 108 was there first...

Sometimes it's just an issue of laziness. The 141/147 situation came about because 147 used to turn back east on 10400 South towards Payson, and when that got downloaded they just moved the end of 147. SR 73 is now discontinuous because a lot of it got transferred to local jurisdiction around the time SR 145 was built and they didn't bother to renumber the eastern segment to something else. The road from I-215 to the mouth of Big Cottonwood is SR 190 and not 210 because UDOT was already going to have to remilepost SR 190 and didn't want to have to do that to 210 too.

There are also signed legitimate routes that don't go anywhere. See SR 168, which is a 1-mile spur through a neighborhood and up to an air force base gate that's been closed for probably 40 years.

There are also more multi-segment routes. SR 190 literally loops back on itself in Brighton before continuing up the mountain. A 10-mile loop off US 89 and a spur from that loop to Mayfield are united under the SR 137 designation.

There's also SR 231, which is basically a 450-foot wye connecting SR 31 and US 89 in Fairview. At least that one's unsigned. And so on....

[Declan127]

I'm to understand the preferred method of clinching is to driver the perimeter of said State Route parking lot.

What about parking in every spot?