Random facts about interstates and US routes

[ethanhopkin14]

Something I didn't realize was that I-215 around Salt Lake City is the only auxiliary Interstate in Utah since I-415 was decommissioned.

North Dakota and Wyoming are similar for having only one 3di and they are both poor excuses for 3di.  North Dakota's is just a random leg of a much larger freeway and Wyoming's isn't even a freeway.  West Virginia makes the list for having one 3di that "starts" in another state, so you could argue that it might not have gotten a 3di if it wasn't for another state initiating it. 

[CNGL-Leudimin]

Meanwhile New Mexico appears to not even have idea of what a 3di is, since they have never planned one.

[MATraveler128]

Meanwhile New Mexico appears to not even have idea of what a 3di is, since they have never planned one.

Same deal in Arizona, although they did have two 3dis at one point. I-410 being used on the southernmost piece of I-17 and I-510 for AZ 51. There was also I-710 planned for Tucson.

[cstp3103]

North Dakota and Wyoming are similar for having only one 3di and they are both poor excuses for 3di.

You can add Vermont to the list too. I always forget I-189 exists, and for good reason.

[HighwayStar]

North Dakota and Wyoming are similar for having only one 3di and they are both poor excuses for 3di.

You can add Vermont to the list too. I always forget I-189 exists, and for good reason.

In fairness I-189 was supposed to be a real highway.

[US20IL64]

Meanwhile New Mexico appears to not even have idea of what a 3di is, since they have never planned one.

Same deal in Arizona, although they did have two 3dis at one point. I-410 being used on the southernmost piece of I-17 and I-510 for AZ 51. There was also I-710 planned for Tucson.

AZ's Loop freeways in PHX are state funded, so no Interstate signs, and no standards to adhere to.

[ethanhopkin14]

North Dakota and Wyoming are similar for having only one 3di and they are both poor excuses for 3di.

You can add Vermont to the list too. I always forget I-189 exists, and for good reason.

In fairness I-189 was supposed to be a real highway.

Yeah, but because it has the stub-out, it really is a glorified exit ramp of I-89.

[bob7374]

For those interested in Interstate trivia, the FHWA Interstate Route Log and Finder List has been updated as of Jan. 26th. Unfortunately, the 2di Table 1 does not include all new interstate designations, such as I-42 in NC, there are some new listings in Tables 2 and 3, such as for I-587 in NC and I-195 in DC:
https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/interstate_highway_system/routefinder/

[Rothman]

For those interested in Interstate trivia, the FHWA Interstate Route Log and Finder List has been updated as of Jan. 26th. Unfortunately, the 2di Table 1 does not include all new interstate designations, such as I-42 in NC, there are some new listings in Tables 2 and 3, such as for I-587 in NC and I-195 in DC:
https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/interstate_highway_system/routefinder/

They botched it again.

[formulanone]

Meanwhile New Mexico appears to not even have idea of what a 3di is, since they have never planned one.

I thought that Paseo del Norte (NM 423) was supposed to be a loop, but fizzled out for one of the typical six reasons (no money, freeway revolt, land acquisition failure, environmental impact, no demand, physically impossible).

I should just create a six-sided die with those reasons, and roll it whenever someone asks "why wasn't the Northern Arc of the Cross-Phantom-Boomtown Expressway built?"

[US 89]

Meanwhile New Mexico appears to not even have idea of what a 3di is, since they have never planned one.

I thought that Paseo del Norte (NM 423) was supposed to be a loop, but fizzled out for one of the typical six reasons (no money, freeway revolt, land acquisition failure, environmental impact, no demand, physically impossible).

It was supposed to be the northern side of a loop:



However, unless someone can dig up evidence to the contrary, it was never planned as an interstate.

[HighwayStar]

Meanwhile New Mexico appears to not even have idea of what a 3di is, since they have never planned one.

I thought that Paseo del Norte (NM 423) was supposed to be a loop, but fizzled out for one of the typical six reasons (no money, freeway revolt, land acquisition failure, environmental impact, no demand, physically impossible).

I should just create a six-sided die with those reasons, and roll it whenever someone asks "why wasn't the Northern Arc of the Cross-Phantom-Boomtown Expressway built?"

I would say you can cut that list down. "physically impossible" is never a real reason, it is always a lame excuse for covering up another reason.

I would just do a coin with two sides (too broke, too many CAVE people complained)

[formulanone]

I would say you can cut that list down. "physically impossible" is never a real reason, it is always a lame excuse for covering up another reason.

I stand up next to a mountain, chopped it down with the side of my hand.

I would just do a coin with two sides (too broke, too many CAVE people complained)

Of course you'd use a coin. Everything is textbook simple and everyone plays by the rules and gets a turn for the same goal. Or sometimes it's because Senator Dogbreath promised his ex-mistress that he won't build it through their elderberry farmland, in exchange for not getting shamed by the press.

Jebus, have a little fun with this hobby for once. It's not the 1950s and it's not SimCIty anymore...those days are history.

[HighwayStar]

I would say you can cut that list down. "physically impossible" is never a real reason, it is always a lame excuse for covering up another reason.

I stand up next to a mountain, chopped it down with the side of my hand.

I would just do a coin with two sides (too broke, too many CAVE people complained)

Of course you'd use a coin. Everything is textbook simple and everyone plays by the rules and gets a turn for the same goal. Or sometimes it's because Senator Dogbreath promised his ex-mistress that he won't build it through their elderberry farmland, in exchange for not getting shamed by the press.

Jebus, have a little fun with this hobby for once. It's not the 1950s and it's not SimCIty anymore...those days are history.

Those days are only history here it seems. China has no issue outbuilding us in infrastructure at every turn. Though fortunately history can and does repeat itself...

[Kulerage]

The only east-west US highway to connect Mexico and Canada is US 62.

[hbelkins]

The only east-west US highway to connect Mexico and Canada is US 62.

It's not consistently signed E-W. I know New York signs it N-S, and am not sure about Pennsylvania.

[MATraveler128]

The only east-west US highway to connect Mexico and Canada is US 62.

It's not consistently signed E-W. I know New York signs it N-S, and am not sure about Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania does sign it north south. This happens once it crosses over from Ohio.

[Scott5114]

I would say you can cut that list down. "physically impossible" is never a real reason, it is always a lame excuse for covering up another reason.

I stand up next to a mountain, chopped it down with the side of my hand.

I would just do a coin with two sides (too broke, too many CAVE people complained)

Of course you'd use a coin. Everything is textbook simple and everyone plays by the rules and gets a turn for the same goal. Or sometimes it's because Senator Dogbreath promised his ex-mistress that he won't build it through their elderberry farmland, in exchange for not getting shamed by the press.

Jebus, have a little fun with this hobby for once. It's not the 1950s and it's not SimCIty anymore...those days are history.

Those days are only history here it seems. China has no issue outbuilding us in infrastructure at every turn. Though fortunately history can and does repeat itself...

China will also disappear you if your opposition to an infrastructure project becomes too inconvenient.

[HighwayStar]

I would say you can cut that list down. "physically impossible" is never a real reason, it is always a lame excuse for covering up another reason.

I stand up next to a mountain, chopped it down with the side of my hand.

I would just do a coin with two sides (too broke, too many CAVE people complained)

Of course you'd use a coin. Everything is textbook simple and everyone plays by the rules and gets a turn for the same goal. Or sometimes it's because Senator Dogbreath promised his ex-mistress that he won't build it through their elderberry farmland, in exchange for not getting shamed by the press.

Jebus, have a little fun with this hobby for once. It's not the 1950s and it's not SimCIty anymore...those days are history.

Those days are only history here it seems. China has no issue outbuilding us in infrastructure at every turn. Though fortunately history can and does repeat itself...

China will also disappear you if your opposition to an infrastructure project becomes too inconvenient.

For years people have been telling us not to worry about China because they don't do business our way, but the reality is all the stuff still gets built, and I frankly no longer feel warm and fuzzy just knowing that they did not do it the western way. Results do matter.

[US 89]

I would say you can cut that list down. "physically impossible" is never a real reason, it is always a lame excuse for covering up another reason.

I stand up next to a mountain, chopped it down with the side of my hand.

I would just do a coin with two sides (too broke, too many CAVE people complained)

Of course you'd use a coin. Everything is textbook simple and everyone plays by the rules and gets a turn for the same goal. Or sometimes it's because Senator Dogbreath promised his ex-mistress that he won't build it through their elderberry farmland, in exchange for not getting shamed by the press.

Jebus, have a little fun with this hobby for once. It's not the 1950s and it's not SimCIty anymore...those days are history.

Those days are only history here it seems. China has no issue outbuilding us in infrastructure at every turn. Though fortunately history can and does repeat itself...

China will also disappear you if your opposition to an infrastructure project becomes too inconvenient.

And if you happen to be working one of said Chinese infrastructure projects, you're probably getting abused and paid a tiny fraction of what your labor is worth. Not to mention the lack of any sort of environmental regulations over there.

[HighwayStar]

I would say you can cut that list down. "physically impossible" is never a real reason, it is always a lame excuse for covering up another reason.

I stand up next to a mountain, chopped it down with the side of my hand.

I would just do a coin with two sides (too broke, too many CAVE people complained)

Of course you'd use a coin. Everything is textbook simple and everyone plays by the rules and gets a turn for the same goal. Or sometimes it's because Senator Dogbreath promised his ex-mistress that he won't build it through their elderberry farmland, in exchange for not getting shamed by the press.

Jebus, have a little fun with this hobby for once. It's not the 1950s and it's not SimCIty anymore...those days are history.

Those days are only history here it seems. China has no issue outbuilding us in infrastructure at every turn. Though fortunately history can and does repeat itself...

China will also disappear you if your opposition to an infrastructure project becomes too inconvenient.

And if you happen to be working one of said Chinese infrastructure projects, you're probably getting abused and paid a tiny fraction of what your labor is worth. Not to mention the lack of any sort of environmental regulations over there.

Again, it really does not matter at the end of the day. The fact that they can get things done, and we can't is a serious problem. The fact that we don't approve of their methods of doing business does not really make a difference in the end.

[US 89]

The end justifies the means.

Nah.

[HighwayStar]

The end justifies the means.

Nah.

Strawman. I'm not saying the ends justify the means, I am saying that the US jumping up and down complaining that China does not play by our rules has failed to stop them thus far, and continuing to use the fact that we don't like how they do things as a justification for why our broken system is adequate is getting us nowhere.

[Kulerage]

The only east-west US highway to connect Mexico and Canada is US 62.

It's not consistently signed E-W. I know New York signs it N-S, and am not sure about Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania does sign it north south. This happens once it crosses over from Ohio.

The only *predominantly east-west US highway to connect Mexico and Canada is US 62.

Better?

[JayhawkCO]

It's weird.  I just jumped into the NFL (2021 Season) thread, went to the most recent posts and wondered, "Did I actually click the right thread?  This is all about filming movie road trip scenes on two lane roads."  Then I came over here, into the Random facts about interstates and US routes thread, went to the most recent posts and wondered, "Did I actually click the right thread?  This is all about Chinese manufacturing."

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