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Title: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 26, 2012, 12:18:18 AM
They're not necessarily damaged road signs like those in the Damaged road signs thread. If you have pictures of road signs, whether they be US shields, Interstate shields, BGSes, or any road sign thereof showing signs of aging, show them here.

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For starters, this is a closeup shot of this US 89 shield in downtown Gardiner, MT where I stayed for Christmas. Look at how the "8" is just bound to peel off. Poor little 8. The 9 isn't that bad. (This one, btw, is along Scott Street, the main drag of US 89 leading up to the Roosevelt Arch and the gate entry through Yellowstone Park on the Gardiner-Cook City road.)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: NE2 on December 26, 2012, 04:15:21 AM
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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Alps on December 26, 2012, 04:47:34 AM
www.alpsroads.net/roads/2.html
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: vdeane on December 26, 2012, 01:57:59 PM
There was a junction US 11 sign that was peeling, though it got replaced before I was able to get a picture.  There's a zillion on NY 260 though.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 26, 2012, 02:00:02 PM
this is the oldest 11 I've got offhand. the gantry also includes a rare 20" Thruway shield.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/NY/NY19700111i1.jpg)

Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 26, 2012, 05:01:40 PM
Must be 1940's or earlier due to that much rust on the thruway shield and directional plate.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Ian on December 26, 2012, 05:35:30 PM
Old US 9 shield in Albany.
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Old NY 5 shield and a train station sign in Schenectady.
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I photographed all three of those signs three years ago, so I have no idea if any of them still exist or not.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Brandon on December 26, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 26, 2012, 05:01:40 PM
Must be 1940's or earlier due to that much rust on the thruway shield and directional plate.

Can't be.  The Thruway opened in 1954.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: US71 on December 26, 2012, 07:06:18 PM
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Peculiar, MO 2008

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Ashdown, AR 2004 (no longer there)

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Fort Gibson, OK

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Lexington, MO 2004

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Berryville, AR 2003 (no longer exists)

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Blue Eye, MO 2004 (the MO 86 dates back to the 1960's, I think)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 26, 2012, 09:17:12 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 26, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 26, 2012, 05:01:40 PM
Must be 1940's or earlier due to that much rust on the thruway shield and directional plate.

Can't be.  The Thruway opened in 1954.

I just wasn't sure how far the signs dated back at first. All I knew was that it had to have been that far back in time to show that much rust and colorfade today.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Kacie Jane on December 26, 2012, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 26, 2012, 09:17:12 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 26, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 26, 2012, 05:01:40 PM
Must be 1940's or earlier due to that much rust on the thruway shield and directional plate.

Can't be.  The Thruway opened in 1954.

I just wasn't sure how far the signs dated back at first. All I knew was that it had to have been that far back in time to show that much rust and colorfade today.

Right.  Except not.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: bugo on December 27, 2012, 01:14:16 AM
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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 27, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 26, 2012, 09:17:12 PM
I just wasn't sure how far the signs dated back at first. All I knew was that it had to have been that far back in time to show that much rust and colorfade today.

probably 54-64 or so.  I don't know for sure if the Thruway followed NY state MUTCD requirements, but I know that the 1964 New York MUTCD got rid of all shields smaller than 24 inches.  they hadn't been made since 1955, but there were stragglers getting renovated, including one example I know of a 1926-31 style embossed cutout with a 1962 (!) issue stamp on the back.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 27, 2012, 01:26:18 PM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MT/MT19610904i1.jpg)

(from the AARoads Montana shield gallery)

This is nearly 60 years of age. At one point, from the abandoned brackets below the I-90 Business shield, this DID have a US 10 shield, a US 12 shield, a US 93 shield, and/or a Montana 200 shield. This one dates back to '58 especially with the white "EAST" cardinal plate instead of the now-standard green plates for Interstate Business routes. As far as I know, that assembly with the missing US 10, 12, 93 and/or MT 200 shields is still there since Chris Kalina last photographed this one in 2006.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 27, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
this is a fun one

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they tried to "retrofit" a 1961-spec state named shield to just black-border-and-number style, but neglected to note that the reflective sheeting was a lot less faded underneath the peeled-off sections.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Central Avenue on December 27, 2012, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 27, 2012, 01:26:18 PM
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I love the lettering on "EAST".
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: ctsignguy on December 28, 2012, 08:33:27 AM
Some signs that aged gracefully.....

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And a couple that didnt.....
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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Brandon on December 28, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
Quote from: ctsignguy on December 28, 2012, 08:33:27 AM
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This is a style I'd like to see make a comeback.  Plain, simple, a cutout, and rather nice looking, IMHO.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: hbelkins on December 28, 2012, 12:08:44 PM
Did that US 33 cutout, perchance, come off the old Ohio River bridge?

http://www.millenniumhwy.net/NW_WV_July_2002/NW_WV_July_2002-Pages/Image8.html

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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Quillz on December 28, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
Do any specs exist on that style of Ohio US route shield? I really like the looks of it but have never been able to replicate it.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 28, 2012, 04:59:51 PM
My guess is just as good as anyone else's. My guess is that it's a 24x24 '61 series cutout.

The I-70, US 151 and Tennessee triangle signs are one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: ctsignguy on December 28, 2012, 11:28:40 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 28, 2012, 12:08:44 PM
Did that US 33 cutout, perchance, come off the old Ohio River bridge?

http://www.millenniumhwy.net/NW_WV_July_2002/NW_WV_July_2002-Pages/Image8.html

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Yes it did.....i made arrangements with the contractor who was putting up the new bridge to collect the old 33 when they took it off the old bridge prior to its demolition.  Took about two years of gentle prodding and reminders, but it paid off with the whole assembly, not just the 33 shield
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: brownpelican on December 29, 2012, 05:38:06 PM
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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 05:05:19 AM
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Uber-aged US 10 shield painted on the old Milwaukee Road trestle that crossed over Old US 10 (present day Nine Mile Road).

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There's the bridge I'm talking about. The US 10 shield is on the right.

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This sign plate dates back to the very late 60's to mid 70's when US 10 was still in commission. The underpass in Frenchtown is named after Henry Lavoie, thus "LAVOIE UNDERPASS". Much of the "UNDERPASS" lettering has fallen off over time, and parts of the border have fallen off, too.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: NE2 on December 30, 2012, 07:19:10 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 05:05:19 AM
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This sign plate dates back to the very late 60's to mid 70's when US 10 was still in commission. The underpass in Frenchtown is named after Henry Lavoie, thus "LAVOIE UNDERPASS". Much of the "UNDERPASS" lettering has fallen off over time, and parts of the border have fallen off, too.
Is it just me, or did someone modify this to say UNDERPANTS?
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Stephane Dumas on December 30, 2012, 10:37:44 AM
There still a old BBS(big blue sign) soldiering on A-10 east near PQ-235 http://goo.gl/maps/HGv29  Installed back when A-10 was a toll road.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 12:22:15 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 30, 2012, 07:19:10 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 05:05:19 AM
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This sign plate dates back to the very late 60's to mid 70's when US 10 was still in commission. The underpass in Frenchtown is named after Henry Lavoie, thus "LAVOIE UNDERPASS". Much of the "UNDERPASS" lettering has fallen off over time, and parts of the border have fallen off, too.
Is it just me, or did someone modify this to say UNDERPANTS?

Only some crazy fool near town would do that. Thankfully, that wasn't the case. Might be that white residue that caught your attention thinking someone said UNDERPANTS and not UNDERPASS.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: NE2 on December 30, 2012, 02:19:57 PM
OK, if it's not for UNDERPANTS, why is there a third S?
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: ftballfan on December 30, 2012, 02:57:17 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 05:05:19 AM
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Uber-aged US 10 shield painted on the old Milwaukee Road trestle that crossed over Old US 10 (present day Nine Mile Road).

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There's the bridge I'm talking about. The US 10 shield is on the right.

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This sign plate dates back to the very late 60's to mid 70's when US 10 was still in commission. The underpass in Frenchtown is named after Henry Lavoie, thus "LAVOIE UNDERPASS". Much of the "UNDERPASS" lettering has fallen off over time, and parts of the border have fallen off, too.
Are these all by each other?
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 03:36:23 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on December 30, 2012, 02:57:17 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 05:05:19 AM
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Uber-aged US 10 shield painted on the old Milwaukee Road trestle that crossed over Old US 10 (present day Nine Mile Road).

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There's the bridge I'm talking about. The US 10 shield is on the right.

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This sign plate dates back to the very late 60's to mid 70's when US 10 was still in commission. The underpass in Frenchtown is named after Henry Lavoie, thus "LAVOIE UNDERPASS". Much of the "UNDERPASS" lettering has fallen off over time, and parts of the border have fallen off, too.
Are these all by each other?

Separate. That Lavoie Underpass plate runs along Houle Creek Road in Frenchtown, MT, the US 10 bridge on Nine Mile Road is near Huson, MT. Two different locations.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Alps on December 30, 2012, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 03:36:23 PM
Separate. That Lavoie Underpants plate
FTFY.
Where's Tim Brown?
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 30, 2012, 09:19:47 PM
Tim Brown must be in Alanland right at this very moment. Or he could be in Perkins Union. I'd check there.

Anyways, moving right along:

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A cream white stop sign just in the front of Sentinel High School flanking Bancroft Street. Yep. No joke. All the red is gone. I'm surprised to see the border and letters reflect from the flash off of my camera even after the octagon lost all of its former color. Pretty easy to just invert it and make a black-on-white stop sign, eh?

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This one is already in the sign gallery thread, but I'll show this one here, too. This gantry overlooking Brooks Street and Stephens Avenue was installed around late 1984 to mid 1985. That sign lamp doesn't work somehow, mainly because the wiring for the lamp has frayed over time.

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This assembly dates back to around '85 or '86. This one is also along Brooks Street and Stephens Avenue where US 12 and US 93 Business depart from their concurrency.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: hbelkins on December 30, 2012, 09:43:07 PM
Doesn't really show too well in the picture, but this PA 132 sign has been around awhile.

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But it's not as old as these right before it:

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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Roadsguy on December 31, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
On the frontage roads of Woodhaven Road (PA 63) in NE Philadelphia at Thornton Road, there are a bunch of old, button copy BGSes as old as the expressway itself. But the frontage roads are city-maintained, even though Woodhaven is PennDOT-maintained. Naturally, PennDOT and the city are arguing over who doesn't have to replace them, as the city says PennDOT put them up, but PennDOT says they're on city right-of-way (which they are).

I say just turn over the frontage roads to PennDOT. :P
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Truvelo on December 31, 2012, 11:16:53 AM
There's fading signs over here too such as this (http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=52.448399,-2.132378&spn=0.000052,0.036564&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=52.448455,-2.140385&panoid=16h4Q2N8M1v5o8buxSYg1A&cbp=12,147.26,,2,-4.14). Names are supposed to be white and route numbers yellow.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Quillz on December 31, 2012, 04:57:59 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 28, 2012, 04:59:51 PM
My guess is just as good as anyone else's. My guess is that it's a 24x24 '61 series cutout.

The I-70, US 151 and Tennessee triangle signs are one of my favorites.
It's not. I've made a '61-spec cutout and it doesn't look like that. It seems to be a style that was only used in Ohio and Virginia, with the exception of one US-6 route shield in Bishop, CA.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Central Avenue on December 31, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
This probably isn't as old as it looks, since Ohio was one of the last states to use button copy, but it seems to be the one remaining button copy sign in a long stretch of ClearviewHwy:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zWZ3-uFVzTE/UOAIA50n1SI/AAAAAAAACNc/xPM3oL7UjSw/s800/DSCF2308.JPG)

(Also, as Google Street View can attest (http://goo.gl/maps/4plGi), it's actually a very faded brown--it only looks green here because I tried to correct for the weird tint a windshield tends to give photos.)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: PHLBOS on January 02, 2013, 04:11:37 PM
In Boston, along westbound Soldiers Field Road, there's an 80s-MDC-spec'd overhead BGS that features a very faded I-90 shield (just before the Cambridge St. exit).  One only sees a white I-shield on it.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on January 06, 2013, 04:45:18 AM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/IL/IL19790722i1.jpg)

Talk about aging! What the hell happened to these boys?! Did someone just happen to sandblast them?! *just kidding!* I mean, look at the I-72 shield assembly! 97% of the blue is stripped nearly to the aluminum primer! Thankfully, the US 36 shield aged more gracefully.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: US71 on January 06, 2013, 09:13:33 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on January 06, 2013, 04:45:18 AM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/IL/IL19790722i1.jpg)

Talk about aging! What the hell happened to these boys?! Did someone just happen to sandblast them?! *just kidding!* I mean, look at the I-72 shield assembly! 97% of the blue is stripped nearly to the aluminum primer! Thankfully, the US 36 shield aged more gracefully.

Could the 36 shield be newer?
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 06, 2013, 11:16:43 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5Zdvb.jpg&hash=fca2d25f8980e948719b61fa4c9ad15e3606bcd4)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYxlGL.jpg&hash=c8bff6634c52983161c72a7e1ca6ac8e9df92ec1)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEVx7D.jpg&hash=c859104868e142e395fb55a52241c43852a769df)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGjEpY.jpg&hash=15f664ea4eaeab2115aa63722a5c77558e15f09c)

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Just a couple I've found around.
Thanks to Steve Alpert for finding the last one.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: US71 on January 06, 2013, 11:45:37 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.staticflickr.com%2F1093%2F5143851589_8340c139a9_z_d.jpg&hash=52e41f6e63b5513aceb453387be0ed27472f81fe)
Along US 65 (original alignment) north of Harrison
Date on the back says 1973.

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old 69/54 split at Fort Scott, KS

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2525%2F4225972849_26838e6635_z_d.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&hash=c57ce57d6c27206e62111d144afdc3df16cabe5d)
Pontiac, IL

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Old US 54, Deerfield, MO

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Berryville, AR (long since replaced)

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US 412 west of Tulsa
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: US12 on January 06, 2013, 01:15:03 PM
Cranston Road, Beloit Wisconsin dates back at least pre i 39
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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on January 06, 2013, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 06, 2013, 09:13:33 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on January 06, 2013, 04:45:18 AM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/IL/IL19790722i1.jpg)

Talk about aging! What the hell happened to these boys?! Did someone just happen to sandblast them?! *just kidding!* I mean, look at the I-72 shield assembly! 97% of the blue is stripped nearly to the aluminum primer! Thankfully, the US 36 shield aged more gracefully.

Could the 36 shield be newer?

The US 36 shield may have been installed as recently as circa 1987.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: national highway 1 on January 07, 2013, 03:27:55 AM
This US 25E shield has clearly seen better days:
www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=TN19660251 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=TN19660251)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Scott5114 on January 07, 2013, 03:56:51 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on January 06, 2013, 03:14:57 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 06, 2013, 09:13:33 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on January 06, 2013, 04:45:18 AM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/IL/IL19790722i1.jpg)

Talk about aging! What the hell happened to these boys?! Did someone just happen to sandblast them?! *just kidding!* I mean, look at the I-72 shield assembly! 97% of the blue is stripped nearly to the aluminum primer! Thankfully, the US 36 shield aged more gracefully.

Could the 36 shield be newer?

The US 36 shield may have been installed as recently as circa 1987.

My guess for why the 36 shield is apparently in better shape is because the blank ink used on the 36 shield is more durable than whatever was used for the blue on the 72. Blue has to be partially transparent to allow light through the retroreflective layer underneath. Black doesn't have to have that. (Jake might be able to explain this better.)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: hbelkins on January 07, 2013, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on January 07, 2013, 03:27:55 AM
This US 25E shield has clearly seen better days:
www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=TN19660251 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=TN19660251)

This is how it looked in July of last year:

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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 07, 2013, 10:11:15 AM
indeed, blue is a very thin layer of translucent ink, while black tends to be quite substantial, precisely to preserve its opacity.

the "honeycomb" high-intensity sheeting was notorious for flaking off like that.  the black would protect it well, while the blue would offer negligible protection.  what you are seeing there (mistakenly referred to as "aluminum primer") is actually the lowest layer of the sheeting, which ostensibly held the reflective elements in place.  as far as I know, retroreflective sheeting is applied to bare aluminum which is simply cleaned off - no primer layer is needed for optimal adhesion. 

the lowest-layer adhesion is working fine; it is the internal adhesion between the lowest layer and the reflective layer which has failed in this case.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Bud8Amp88 on January 07, 2013, 02:09:15 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/sLuhd
NS-322 NB. This [JCT] [207] has seen way better days. It's actually one of the few old-style Collector Route shields still kicking around the Halifax area, most of them having been replaced with These (http://goo.gl/maps/0vSPQ) slightly blander versions.

http://goo.gl/maps/UpXDY
NS-102 NB at Fall River. The [318] shield has clearly been replaced fairly recently, but the other shields are definitely starting to show their age. Also kind of odd since most, if not all of the older BGS's around the city have been replaced over the last few years.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on January 07, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on December 30, 2012, 10:37:44 AM
There still a old BBS(big blue sign) soldiering on A-10 east near PQ-235 http://goo.gl/maps/HGv29  Installed back when A-10 was a toll road.

What's more, the signs on Hwy 235 for A-10 are also just as old. The signs on the ramps themselves were replaced this summer.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: adt1982 on January 20, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
This is at the intersection of East Columbian Blvd (frontage road for 4-lane US 66) and Sargent St. in Litchfield, IL.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv346%2Fadt1982%2Froad%2520signs%2Fcrosstrafficfaded_zpsb419a319.jpg&hash=5b72b97f29f43f0c0c5ee051ba999e48377cfcc0)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Big John on January 20, 2013, 10:59:41 AM
Quote from: adt1982 on January 20, 2013, 09:45:15 AM
This is at the intersection of East Columbian Blvd (frontage road for 4-lane US 66) and Sargent St. in Litchfield, IL.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv346%2Fadt1982%2Froad%2520signs%2Fcrosstrafficfaded_zpsb419a319.jpg&hash=5b72b97f29f43f0c0c5ee051ba999e48377cfcc0)
A red street blade behind it? :ded:
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Brian556 on January 20, 2013, 11:33:44 AM
QuoteA red street blade behind it?

Farmers Branch, TX uses red blades.

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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Scott5114 on January 20, 2013, 03:03:37 PM
As does Goldsby, OK, Del City, OK, and Norman, OK used to back in the 90s. There wasn't a prohibition against it until 2009.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: akotchi on January 20, 2013, 03:45:06 PM
There are also some in downtown Trenton, NJ, though they are closer to a maroon color.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Mark68 on January 20, 2013, 03:50:00 PM
Cherry Hills Village, CO also uses red.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Scott5114 on January 20, 2013, 05:26:50 PM
Okay, that's probably enough examples.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Central Avenue on January 20, 2013, 05:38:51 PM
Dunno if I'd call this a "road sign" in the strictest sense, but it's certainly aging:

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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Brian556 on January 20, 2013, 06:22:01 PM
QuoteThere wasn't a prohibition against it until 2009.
Didn't know that. The one above is very new, so apperantly Farmers Branch is still using red, for now.

Interestingly. Lewisville, which, for several years. has used maroon signs in it downtown area, has started intalling brown signs in downtown. Maybe this is the reason.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: thenetwork on January 21, 2013, 02:27:51 PM
Quote from: Central Avenue on December 31, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
This probably isn't as old as it looks, since Ohio was one of the last states to use button copy, but it seems to be the one remaining button copy sign in a long stretch of ClearviewHwy:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zWZ3-uFVzTE/UOAIA50n1SI/AAAAAAAACNc/xPM3oL7UjSw/s800/DSCF2308.JPG)

It looks a lot older because it looks like as "recycled" sign.  Best way to describe it it that ODOT took older BGS's and bolted thin sheets of colored aluminum panels over them, then adding the proper lettering.  This was often a cheap cost-cutting move -- just like on other occasions when instead of replacing an aging BGS, they just replaced the numbered shield on the sign and left everything else alone.

A lot of the times, ODOT left the old text on the sign before it was covered.  I had seen instances where a panel or two came off, and you saw what was underneath.
 
BTW, I count at least 5 panels used on that sign.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 21, 2013, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 21, 2013, 02:27:51 PM
It looks a lot older because it looks like as "recycled" sign.  Best way to describe it it that ODOT took older BGS's and bolted thin sheets of colored aluminum panels over them, then adding the proper lettering.  This was often a cheap cost-cutting move -- just like on other occasions when instead of replacing an aging BGS, they just replaced the numbered shield on the sign and left everything else alone.

California does this too - except they tend to use a single sheet of aluminum, sized correctly, with a retroreflective legend.  the reason is: the old sign serves as a great backing, even though its visibility is below standard.  I can think of plenty of examples of signs which have 1960s date codes on the back, and are retroreflective on the front.

needless to say, the California utilization looks a lot less sloppy than Ohio.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: PurdueBill on January 21, 2013, 07:51:15 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 21, 2013, 02:27:51 PM
Quote from: Central Avenue on December 31, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
This probably isn't as old as it looks, since Ohio was one of the last states to use button copy, but it seems to be the one remaining button copy sign in a long stretch of ClearviewHwy:

It looks a lot older because it looks like as "recycled" sign.  Best way to describe it it that ODOT took older BGS's and bolted thin sheets of colored aluminum panels over them, then adding the proper lettering.  This was often a cheap cost-cutting move -- just like on other occasions when instead of replacing an aging BGS, they just replaced the numbered shield on the sign and left everything else alone.

A lot of the times, ODOT left the old text on the sign before it was covered.  I had seen instances where a panel or two came off, and you saw what was underneath.
 
BTW, I count at least 5 panels used on that sign.

I need to look through my pics and see if I can find any examples of such ODOT work from I-70 between Indiana and Columbus; there were several examples of that overlay type where the overlay didn't quite cover the full width and one could see a faint outline of the original layer's border, and one overhead on 70 WB lost a quarter of its overlay for a couple years and you could see ghost images of the old letters underneath.  Unfortunately that one was replaced with a Clearview one eventually. 
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: apeman33 on January 26, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 20, 2013, 05:26:50 PM
Okay, that's probably enough examples.

Some red ones are still up in the ghost town of Picher, Okla. I thought I had put some pics up on Facebook but I can't find them.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Scott5114 on January 28, 2013, 03:14:25 AM
Yeah, most of Goldsby's are still up (since they were still good until 2009), and you can find a few in Norman still if you keep your eyes peeled.

Red street blades probably won't be remarkable for another 10 or 20 years!
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: adt1982 on January 28, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
Litchfield has put up some new red blades in the past few years.  Before they used red they used green.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: roadman65 on February 07, 2013, 08:10:39 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Washington+Heights,+New+York,+NY&hl=en&ll=40.84943,-73.939351&spn=0.001984,0.005284&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=9.892242,21.643066&oq=washington+h&t=h&hnear=Washington+Heights,+New+York&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.849457,-73.939477&panoid=tlr-NdD1cOPyxpEDqt79BA&cbp=12,274.33,,0,0

The shield in the assembly not only is faded, but it on a blue sign.  I am guessing this was a US 9 shield as this is at the 179th Street entrance to the George Washington Bridge in NYC, where US 9 SB enters the I-95/ US 1 Freeway.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: hbelkins on March 29, 2013, 04:52:14 PM
Some oldies from in and around Sullivan County, NY:

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(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8094%2F8595027337_6e047d248c.jpg&hash=46ce6f13d1648b04b00bfe71f807f7d2d84b997b)

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Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on March 31, 2013, 11:35:49 PM
This STOP/SLOW flagman sign was found a few years back. I estimate finding this back somewhere in 2007 in a pile of scrap at Pacific Steel in Missoula while I was with my dad dropping off scrap iron. It's an 18" x 18" sign that has mounting holes for the handle. When I found it, the handle was already dismounted. Obviously, somebody decided to scrap the sign. Don't know why that was, but, it's still has some use. So, it went home with me, and my dad mounted a 24" handle to the sign.

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The STOP side.

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SLOW.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on May 20, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
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This sign has seen its days of duty in the Rattlesnake region of Missoula.

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This US 12 sign has soldiered on since circa 1975. I think the shield is '61 spec with Series C digits, though I am not sure.

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This is pretty old gantry hanging over East Broadway just after you cross Van Buren Street. I personally like this style.

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Remember that fuzzy snapshot of this assembly? This is a much better and clearer snapshot of this same one. If you look closely, you can see rivets attaching each legend and symbol to the sign, so you could call this somewhat a button copy.

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This has sat here in Missoula since circa 1983, but I can't say for sure.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: formulanone on May 20, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
Some oldies and worn-out tunes...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/6180/6185095857_43de6ff19b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/aqyevK)

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(https://live.staticflickr.com/3892/18947527322_208c653fb8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uSk2Ky)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7487/15653547885_9de90a159b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pRfwqD)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: NE2 on May 21, 2013, 01:05:23 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 20, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
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Shit yeah. I forgot there was still a set standing.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: PHLBOS on May 21, 2013, 08:28:59 AM
Along the NJTP, there's still one or two remaining original (1971-era) BGS for Exit 7A (I-195) complete w/faded button-copy shields.  One might want to get a photo of those before they're completely replaced.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: kphoger on May 21, 2013, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on May 20, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
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Wouldn't doing so involve carjacking anyway?
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on May 21, 2013, 04:34:21 PM
The likelyhood of carjacking in Missoula is pretty low, but that doesn't mean that carjacking isn't present in Missoula. Someone's car could still potentially end up carjacked. It just depends on where you park. You park downtown and leave your stuff out in the open, then yeah, it's possible.

But that's not entirely the premise of this sign being out here in the Rattlesnake area of Missoula. This sign basically means "there is a city-managed park in front of your house with trails and a creek, no motoring traffic is allowed on these trails at all times." I can understand your point on the carjacking, but, like I said, the likelyhood is pretty low unless you leave your expensive stuff in plain sight like the front seat or on the dashboard.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 21, 2013, 04:44:01 PM
that first US-12 looks even to have started out as a '48 spec pattern.  check to see if it has the black border painted in later.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/NY/NY19700096i1.jpg)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: kphoger on May 21, 2013, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on May 21, 2013, 04:34:21 PM
I can understand your point on the carjacking

Are you sure?  Because it really sounds like you didn't get that it was a joke.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on May 21, 2013, 10:48:22 PM
 :eyebrow:?
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: kphoger on May 21, 2013, 10:57:26 PM
whoosh...

OK.  "Park no through traffic."  If it's one's own vehicle that he intends to park, then it is by definition not through traffic.  The only way one can possibly disobey the sign is to carjack someone else's vehicle–someone who intends to reach another destination–and then park it.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: roadman65 on May 22, 2013, 02:21:53 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/8706469525/in/set-72157632301418857
Has been replaced since
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on May 22, 2013, 05:22:19 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad16%2FBJFRacing01%2FIMG_0195_zpsf1b8abb8.jpg&hash=113f0854679864725d1b2a8c6c430697b7e1ef71) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/BJFRacing01/media/IMG_0195_zpsf1b8abb8.jpg.html)
This one has been here in Missoula for while. Only thing that could have made this one better was using regular case instead of all-caps and no black background on the 93 shield. A copy of that is seen on the westbound side going to the airport.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad16%2FBJFRacing01%2FIMG_0196_zps8a3dbc84.jpg&hash=3f7704f83f7b4912378e7976cf589add0561bda4) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/BJFRacing01/media/IMG_0196_zps8a3dbc84.jpg.html)
Don't know what year this one was installed, but my guess is that it's 1987, 88, or 89, and it's wood, too. Probably one of only around five or six wooden examples left in this town.

Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2013, 05:24:09 PM
the 93 shield looks to have been added later.  if it was rerouted in a given year, then that may nail down when the sign was modified.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on May 23, 2013, 10:08:06 PM
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MT/MT19740421i1.jpg)
This looks pretty old but I do wonder what the highway was before it was renumbered to 42. It looks like there was a suffixed 2di highway before it was changed to 42 which explains the overlap on the route marker.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: NE2 on May 23, 2013, 10:12:37 PM
The Goog says MT 24W, which fits.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on May 24, 2013, 09:09:22 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad16%2FBJFRacing01%2FIMG_0342_zpsef1153fc.jpg&hash=e5d8a0a43337f6d7169579baaf38d13bdd93d97d)

Still soldering on after over 30 years. This sits along I-90 Business/US 93 Business.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: SidS1045 on May 24, 2013, 10:59:35 PM
I'm sure someone has a picture of the way-past-its-usable-life pull-through on northbound I-95/MA-128 at the Lexington service area/MA-2A exit.  I haven't been able to get a clear picture of it myself.  In case no one has the picture, the reflective sheeting is full of holes and the I-95 shield's paint has faded into nothing.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: ET21 on May 25, 2013, 01:40:04 AM
Worse nowadays. The interstate shield is barely legible on very sunny days.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.angelfire.com%2Frnb%2Fbill4%2Fjct190bgs.JPG&hash=f69dec3b8a44679fb6dc846767433f45a0b473d4)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: NE2 on May 25, 2013, 01:47:42 AM
I can't see any Interstate shield in that image hosted by Angelfire.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: SidS1045 on May 25, 2013, 10:48:47 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 25, 2013, 01:47:42 AM
I can't see any image in that image hosted by Angelfire.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: 1995hoo on May 26, 2013, 12:46:32 PM
I still don't see any image, just a "hosted by Angelfire" box.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: PurdueBill on May 26, 2013, 03:44:57 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 26, 2013, 12:46:32 PM
I still don't see any image, just a "hosted by Angelfire" box.

Same here.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on May 26, 2013, 06:34:28 PM
Did you put a URL tag in the IMG string? That may be why the Angelfire image is showing because of hotlink issues and such.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Zeffy on May 26, 2013, 09:11:15 PM
Quote from: ET21 on May 25, 2013, 01:40:04 AM
Worse nowadays. The interstate shield is barely legible on very sunny days.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.angelfire.com%2Frnb%2Fbill4%2Fjct190bgs.JPG&hash=f69dec3b8a44679fb6dc846767433f45a0b473d4)

Fixed for you: (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2Fjct190bgs_zps8ccdbee4.jpg&hash=80873f6d291a5e1885d45bef477f7e8a8fedcec4)

Fun fact: You can't link images from AngelFire.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: PHLBOS on May 28, 2013, 05:26:43 PM
Ian/PennDOTfan has a photo of it in his flickr account.

I drove by there yesterday; that BGS is still there.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Scott5114 on May 30, 2013, 03:12:46 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on May 20, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
If you look closely, you can see rivets attaching each legend and symbol to the sign, so you could call this somewhat a button copy.

That's a different beast: demountable copy, which in my opinion is almost as awesome as button copy, since it has all the hand-assembled feel of button copy but is entirely retroreflective. Kansas was using it well into the 2000s.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGXPmXBP.jpg&hash=783cf346176819fd851cae64ac033b34d5672f68)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: hbelkins on May 30, 2013, 10:38:43 PM
^^^

Kentucky still uses demountable copy. There aren't many instances of greenout in use in the Bluegrass State.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Billy F 1988 on August 31, 2013, 02:12:32 AM
Apologies for the bump.

Some straggling 1961 series US square shields are still up in service in Missoula.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad16%2FBJFRacing01%2FUS12_61spec_zps23c5ef75.png&hash=b1a9c23feccdfbe333554b70d3567e1c2f336b15)

There are only maybe 5 or 6 of these '61 spec US shields leftover in Missoula. This US 12 example along 5th Street is one clue to that.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad16%2FBJFRacing01%2FCameraDownloads574_zps0f03b2fc.jpg&hash=ff8837d0c314494f022d47a48419d5c3b63ac66b)
You already had seen the eastbound panel. This westbound panel is nearing its last days on those metal posts. Compare this one to the Chris Kalina photo from over five years ago. There is absolutely no red on the crown, and the '57 series Interstate 90 shield is slowly beginning to deteriorate. The tip of the crown in essence has begun to peel off. Under MUTCD 2009 specs, this sign should be long gone with the '61/'70 series Interstate shield, and the '70 US shield.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad16%2FBJFRacing01%2FCameraDownloads573_zpse3d9be03.jpg&hash=d5dadda7ff1b37faf317a778b2728954162d4f8c)
:hmmm: WTF? An EAST cardinal auxiliary sign with no white border?! Yeah, it may be aged, but why was this put up when several months before, I pass by it and it had the standard white border? Did someone climb up the post and unscrew the bordered one off or something? Don't know the answer to that but I'd say it is the first time I've seen a borderless cardinal auxiliary sign. Erroneous? Yes. But I'm not going that far in putting this in Erroneous Road Signs.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad16%2FBJFRacing01%2FCameraDownloads560_zpsd93bd268.jpg&hash=46cd2076f09d88f278a7921088e424d19de117f8)
The days of embossed contractor signs have since been "replaced", but I have come across this example as I trot along Central Avenue. There are a couple more at a property along Front Street just across from St. Patrick Hospital like this one.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Mergingtraffic on September 01, 2013, 11:15:21 AM
Here's one....aging but STILL there as of last week.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7360%2F9558967194_19e72a090b.jpg&hash=276241afd90286c3ff90aff2a20abc0b5c830ae2)


and I guess you would call this riveted?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5441%2F9523616759_ff1d6b2e6a.jpg&hash=db47440c9bc9a947b382720350381804c7e2cebd)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 14, 2018, 08:35:38 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 07, 2013, 08:10:39 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Washington+Heights,+New+York,+NY&hl=en&ll=40.84943,-73.939351&spn=0.001984,0.005284&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=9.892242,21.643066&oq=washington+h&t=h&hnear=Washington+Heights,+New+York&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.849457,-73.939477&panoid=tlr-NdD1cOPyxpEDqt79BA&cbp=12,274.33,,0,0

The shield in the assembly not only is faded, but it on a blue sign.  I am guessing this was a US 9 shield as this is at the 179th Street entrance to the George Washington Bridge in NYC, where US 9 SB enters the I-95/ US 1 Freeway.
I found a couple of others where the bus on-ramp and US 9 on-ramp merge before both join I-95 and US 1 on the GWB, and at the police U-Turn back to Manhattan.

PA Bus and US 9 On-Ramp merge;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.849611,-73.9411201,3a,75y,305.31h,95.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZmGKwU4xVyeOAG8fxBSV7Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en


U-Turn:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8496159,-73.9412416,3a,15y,199.53h,92.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZkJEu9POl5ceU8ay28lgHw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en



Quote from: Zeffy on May 26, 2013, 09:11:15 PM
Fun fact: You can't link images from AngelFire.
And now, it's the same with Photobucket.

Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: paulthemapguy on March 14, 2018, 10:59:16 AM
I'm gonna respond to this thread with a Mitch Hedberg bit.  "My friend showed me a photo and said 'this is a picture of me when I was younger.'  Every picture is a picture of you when you were younger."

"Show me a road sign that is aging."
"Every road sign is a road sign that is aging."  :sombrero:

Not directly analogous but it still reminded me of Mitch lol

I maintain the road sign database for the public road agency where I work...I could post all 4000+ of our proprietary photos...but I probably shouldn't do that.  We have some pretty dismally old signs out here, but that's why I was appointed this position relatively recently.  Things are starting to get better, I think.

So, instead....look at my flickr account?  https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/albums  :D
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: hockeyjohn on June 10, 2020, 02:56:52 PM
Harrisville, Mich.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49992747252_3f3dfbed70_z.jpg)

Sheridan, Ind.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49991975908_3a2fc23281.jpg)(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49992498496_7bd89c5fd0.jpg)

Calumet, Mich. (these must be from at least the 1940s if not the '30s?) - the hexagonal arrow sign beneath the M-203 sign went missing sometime between my first (1997) and second trips (2014) to the Keweenaw Peninsula.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49992500141_9de30c3120_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Joe The Dragon on June 10, 2020, 08:14:07 PM
Very old ones for I-294

https://goo.gl/maps/PT4ZXW5H1X23ozEd7

Power poles are being replaced so this may be gone soon.

And other one

https://goo.gl/maps/NFiCGCmELYJHa4Ct7
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: davmillar on June 13, 2020, 10:04:57 PM
Saw this today but didn't get a chance to snap a picture in person:

https://goo.gl/maps/iVubKmDCuPUVkPgr8

Likely from 1991 or earlier, as US 80 was decommissioned west of Dallas in 1991. Was really annoyed I was driving by myself when I chanced upon it as it's the type of useless trivia I like to force upon unsuspecting friends. This thread will have to do. :)
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: Scott5114 on June 14, 2020, 05:09:50 AM
Quote from: davmillar on June 13, 2020, 10:04:57 PM
Saw this today but didn't get a chance to snap a picture in person:

https://goo.gl/maps/iVubKmDCuPUVkPgr8

Likely from 1991 or earlier, as US 80 was decommissioned west of Dallas in 1991. Was really annoyed I was driving by myself when I chanced upon it as it's the type of useless trivia I like to force upon unsuspecting friends. This thread will have to do. :)

Here's a bit of extra trivia for you–that interchange has been identified by some folks on this forum as the world's oldest SPUI.
Title: Re: Aging road signs
Post by: davmillar on June 14, 2020, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 14, 2020, 05:09:50 AM
Quote from: davmillar on June 13, 2020, 10:04:57 PM
Saw this today but didn't get a chance to snap a picture in person:

https://goo.gl/maps/iVubKmDCuPUVkPgr8

Likely from 1991 or earlier, as US 80 was decommissioned west of Dallas in 1991. Was really annoyed I was driving by myself when I chanced upon it as it's the type of useless trivia I like to force upon unsuspecting friends. This thread will have to do. :)

Here's a bit of extra trivia for you–that interchange has been identified by some folks on this forum as the world's oldest SPUI.
Woah, neat. I've driven through it a few times but never made that connection that it was a SPUI before. It just feels... interestingly crowded.