Yield controlled right turns at signalized intersections in IL

[Revive 755]

I was wondering how many there actually are.  Ones I know of:

* Kind of one on WB Woodfield Road just west of I-290 in Schaumburg

* WB IL 58/Golf Road at Ring Road just east of Schaumburg

*Another 'kind of' on WB US 34 at Salt Creek Lane (just west of I-294)

*One on SB IL 158 at the eastern intersection with IL 161 just east of Belleville

Any others?

[hotdogPi]

Why is this limited to Illinois?

[NE2]

Why is this limited to Illinois?

Why is it a thread? These things are all over the place. Except maybe Illinois?

[Revive 755]

^ They are rare in Illinois.  For some reason Illinois prefers having the right turns under signal control, even if there is a channelizing island separating the right turn from the through lanes.

[Brandon]

Why is this limited to Illinois?

Why is it a thread? These things are all over the place. Except maybe Illinois?

There's only a few in this state.  As 755 said, IDOT (and the municipalities and counties) tend to strongly prefer full signalization.  It's so different going to Indiana where the right turns are not signal controlled all over the place.

[cwm1276]

This one drives me nuts I90 at Business US 20 in Rockford.  People are always stopped instead of merging into traffic.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Rockford,+IL&hl=en&ll=42.271847,-88.960301&spn=0.005256,0.009173&sll=42.043167,-88.032805&sspn=0.001327,0.002293&hnear=Rockford,+Winnebago,+Illinois&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.27169,-88.962492&panoid=JFdkdRgYuN71AxXVP7v9uQ&cbp=12,214.5,,0,11

I think the tollway is going to remove it when the finish up the ramp reconstruction this spring, there is a new lane in the median between the straight and right merger turn lane.

[Brandon]

This one drives me nuts I90 at Business US 20 in Rockford.  People are always stopped instead of merging into traffic.

I think people stop as it is such a rare configuration in Illinois.  They have no real experience at this, unlike, say Indiana residents.

[jeffandnicole]

This one drives me nuts I90 at Business US 20 in Rockford.  People are always stopped instead of merging into traffic.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Rockford,+IL&hl=en&ll=42.271847,-88.960301&spn=0.005256,0.009173&sll=42.043167,-88.032805&sspn=0.001327,0.002293&hnear=Rockford,+Winnebago,+Illinois&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.27169,-88.962492&panoid=JFdkdRgYuN71AxXVP7v9uQ&cbp=12,214.5,,0,11

I think the tollway is going to remove it when the finish up the ramp reconstruction this spring, there is a new lane in the median between the straight and right merger turn lane.

It's also a limited (non-existent) merge area.  If a vehicle merging in immediately is tailgating the vehicle they are behind, and the next car is now tailgating the vehicle that merged in, then it was probably too tight of an area to merge.

[Jim920]

This one drives me nuts I90 at Business US 20 in Rockford.  People are always stopped instead of merging into traffic.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Rockford,+IL&hl=en&ll=42.271847,-88.960301&spn=0.005256,0.009173&sll=42.043167,-88.032805&sspn=0.001327,0.002293&hnear=Rockford,+Winnebago,+Illinois&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.27169,-88.962492&panoid=JFdkdRgYuN71AxXVP7v9uQ&cbp=12,214.5,,0,11

I think the tollway is going to remove it when the finish up the ramp reconstruction this spring, there is a new lane in the median between the straight and right merger turn lane.

I've never had a problem at the State St. location with people stopping instead of merging.  However there is another spot in Rockford people ALWAYS stop, its exiting Cherry Vale Mall from Cherryvale Blvd. to North Perryville Road.  They even posted a "Right Turn No Stop" sign prior to the turn but that doesn't help.

http://goo.gl/maps/tQlgL

To be fair though, you used to have to stop here until they redid the intersection just to the north on Perryville, but that was over 6 years ago and people still stop here today.

[Joe The Dragon]

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.078704,-87.969925&spn=0.001581,0.00335&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=42.078569,-87.970294&panoid=7ElW5Lb4G5B8xJQ6uOU-EA&cbp=12,315.24,,0,-3.42

US-14 and dryden pl (kind of)

[ChiMilNet]

I don't know why these are not used more in Illinois... (and then we could have a whole other thread on signal timing here!) Here's one at Euclid Ave and Quentin Rd in Palatine (NW Corner).

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m4!1m3!1d755!2d-88.0627829!3d42.0869713!2m1!1e3&fid=7

[Revive 755]

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.078704,-87.969925&spn=0.001581,0.00335&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=42.078569,-87.970294&panoid=7ElW5Lb4G5B8xJQ6uOU-EA&cbp=12,315.24,,0,-3.42

US-14 and dryden pl (kind of)

That one is an interesting one, as it looks like the signal heads for the right turn lane (or maybe just the head on the right, the head on the left may be shared with the through lanes) are really only positioned for the crosswalk and a yield sign is missing.

I don't know why these are not used more in Illinois... (and then we could have a whole other thread on signal timing here!) Here's one at Euclid Ave and Quentin Rd in Palatine (NW Corner).

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m4!1m3!1d755!2d-88.0627829!3d42.0869713!2m1!1e3&fid=7

That one does not count, as it is more of the free-flow/"hot right" variety in that the signal head for the right turn is always green.  That kind of configuration is usually up for consideration for high volume right turn movements where there is space (both ROW and adjacent signals) for a merging lane and no pedestrian crosswalk across the right turn movement in question.

[Revive 755]

* One on EB IL 162 at I-55/I-70 in Troy:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.731929,-89.913316&spn=0.00372,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.732021,-89.913373&panoid=dZYx-JgQALGRO6O8LyIKrQ&cbp=12,152.88,,0,7.84

* Two at Mousette Lane and the SB I-255 ramps.  One for the SB exit ramp right turn - the yield line is there, not seeing the sign -
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.566749,-90.129991&spn=0.007491,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.566685,-90.130133&panoid=NYmaD0Q2JwHjZ9S_g7p30A&cbp=12,298.37,,0,2.63
It would probably be a free-flow if the adjacent intersection was a little farther away.

The other one is for the SB Mousette to SB I-255 right turn
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.566505,-90.130591&spn=0.014982,0.033023&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.56667,-90.130429&panoid=NTuRy_dscVxLXjyYZeiMbg&cbp=12,295.61,,0,6.14

[nengleman]

^ They are rare in Illinois.  For some reason Illinois prefers having the right turns under signal control, even if there is a channelizing island separating the right turn from the through lanes.

Illinois cities also loved putting photo enforced cameras at any intersection with a right turn lane. Luckily some cities have gotten away from the red light cameras (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-02-26/news/0902250963_1_red-light-camera-schaumburg) but there are some that would like to see a red light camera or 2 or 3 at every intersection.

[skluth]

There's only a few in this state.  As 755 said, IDOT (and the municipalities and counties) tend to strongly prefer full signalization.  It's so different going to Indiana where the right turns are not signal controlled all over the place.

Must be a northern Illinois thing. They're all over downstate.