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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #500 on: December 05, 2017, 09:00:17 PM »

Just went over there and looks like it's filled in! I'm kind of surprised control signs for 269 South wont say Memphis with Tunica. Since I-22 will be ending at the I269 JCT, i'm sure Miss. wants to make sure traffic flows via I55/I69 into Memphis when the time comes.

I think that by the time northwestbound traffic reaches the I-22/I-269 interchange, you run into the question of "which part of Memphis?" 

If you're destined for downtown Memphis (or for Graceland), then taking I-269 west to I-55 is the logical routing.

If you're destined for the defacto primary business district near Poplar (US 72) and I-240, then I-269 north to TN 385 west is the logical routing.

If you're destined for the multimodal facility and distribution centers along Lamar, then you want to stay on US 78.

The logical options for control cities are Tunica (current terminus of I-69 south), Little Rock (control for I-40 west), or St. Louis (control for I-55 north). 
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #501 on: December 05, 2017, 09:52:13 PM »

Tunica has less than 1k residents, is that really worth control city status?  Also, why not route 22 up 269, then throw it onto 385? then there's no need to upgrade 78. 

I think this sign alone is worth "interstate control city" status for Tunica.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #502 on: December 05, 2017, 10:38:59 PM »

Why are people poo-pooing on Tunica? No one goes there to visit the town. They go to the casino strip there which a lot of people from Atlanta, northern Alabama, west Tennessee, Arkansas and SE Missouri go to often, therefore that 1000 population number is irrelevant. Go visit Tunica on a weekend. 269 is great for the areas economy/commerce
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #503 on: December 06, 2017, 01:32:41 AM »

Tunica has less than 1k residents, is that really worth control city status?  Also, why not route 22 up 269, then throw it onto 385? then there's no need to upgrade 78. 

I think this sign alone is worth "interstate control city" status for Tunica.

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I noticed you picked that picture, but didn't use one of the 9 casinos there (the third largest casino market in the nation)...just saying. In fairness, maybe the sign should say Tunica Resorts. Since that's what the official name of the town is now.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #504 on: December 06, 2017, 01:51:06 AM »

I did want to link one memphis local news station coverage about the opening of I-269
http://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/mississippi-getting-ready-for-brand-new-interstates-on-i-269/659021351
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #505 on: December 06, 2017, 10:01:05 AM »

I’m thinking it’s open now..?

I'm looking at the MDOT Traffic camera site (https://www.mdottraffic.com/) and I see some traffic but not much. so not sure if it is open.
Just saw a car fly by. It’s open
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #506 on: December 06, 2017, 12:56:07 PM »

I’m thinking it’s open now..?

I'm looking at the MDOT Traffic camera site (https://www.mdottraffic.com/) and I see some traffic but not much. so not sure if it is open.
Just saw a car fly by. It’s open
live paving work is going on west of 305 and can be seen on mdot cam ptz 269 west of 305  mobile.mdottraffic.com
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #507 on: December 06, 2017, 09:38:32 PM »

Tunica has less than 1k residents, is that really worth control city status?  Also, why not route 22 up 269, then throw it onto 385? then there's no need to upgrade 78. 

I think this sign alone is worth "interstate control city" status for Tunica.


I noticed you picked that picture, but didn't use one of the 9 casinos there (the third largest casino market in the nation)...just saying. In fairness, maybe the sign should say Tunica Resorts. Since that's what the official name of the town is now.

What can I say, I like using MY photos.
But the real reason I skipped the casinos is because I was under the impression that they were going out of business.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/us/harrahs-tunica-casino-to-close-hinting-at-gambling-glut.html
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #508 on: December 06, 2017, 10:22:10 PM »

I doubt they'd ever all go out of business but certainly there's been some consolidation in the market as additional gambling options have become available (Southland in West Memphis, for example, not to mention the Tennessee lottery).

Harrah's problem was being way overbuilt for the market with 3 separate hotels, and to some extent getting too greedy - they seemed to think having the prime location nearest Memphis in the former Grand property meant they could run a very tight casino like they were the Luxor or something on the Vegas strip. But once you've been in the car for 30-40 minutes, an extra 5 or 10 to get somewhere with better comps and better odds isn't going to be much of a deterrent.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #509 on: December 07, 2017, 01:29:01 AM »

Tunica has less than 1k residents, is that really worth control city status?  Also, why not route 22 up 269, then throw it onto 385? then there's no need to upgrade 78. 

I think this sign alone is worth "interstate control city" status for Tunica.


I noticed you picked that picture, but didn't use one of the 9 casinos there (the third largest casino market in the nation)...just saying. In fairness, maybe the sign should say Tunica Resorts. Since that's what the official name of the town is now.

What can I say, I like using MY photos.
But the real reason I skipped the casinos is because I was under the impression that they were going out of business.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/us/harrahs-tunica-casino-to-close-hinting-at-gambling-glut.html

Yeah, one casino closing doesn't mean there are plans to shut them all down. Casino center stays quite busy and I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #510 on: December 07, 2017, 01:43:33 AM »

Tunica has less than 1k residents, is that really worth control city status?  Also, why not route 22 up 269, then throw it onto 385? then there's no need to upgrade 78. 

I think this sign alone is worth "interstate control city" status for Tunica.


I noticed you picked that picture, but didn't use one of the 9 casinos there (the third largest casino market in the nation)...just saying. In fairness, maybe the sign should say Tunica Resorts. Since that's what the official name of the town is now.

What can I say, I like using MY photos.
But the real reason I skipped the casinos is because I was under the impression that they were going out of business.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/us/harrahs-tunica-casino-to-close-hinting-at-gambling-glut.html

Yeah, one casino closing doesn't mean there are plans to shut them all down. Casino center stays quite busy and I don't think that will happen anytime soon.

And the gambling industry is and will continue to be huge. A lot of people still have addiction problems. If it was a smaller market, this could be a different story.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #511 on: December 08, 2017, 12:11:52 PM »

I-269 Opening acknowledge by local media...

DeSoto County I-269 segment now open
By BOB BAKKEN Staff Writer Dec 6, 2017 Updated Dec 6, 2017

Another part of what will become the I-269 loop from I-55 north of Hernando east toward Lewisburg and on into Marshall County, ending at Tennessee Highway 385 near Collierville, Tenn., is officially open for use.

A ceremonial ribbon-cutting event was held in Byhalia Tuesday morning, to officially declare the roadway open.

It is the second of three segments of the interstate to now carry traffic. The first, from state Highway 302 north into Tennessee, has been used since October 2015.

This latest segment to be opened goes from north of Lewisburg at the state Highway 305 exit, then heads east and north into Marshall County and the current segment available north of state Highway 302 east of Barton.

Northern District Transportation Commissioner Mike Tagert, speaking Tuesday after the opening of the new roadway, said the entire completion of the interstate is about 12 months away.

“When we broke on the project in 2011, we anticipated the fall of 2019 for completion of the entire connector,” Tagert said. “We anticipate the final segment from I-55 to 305 open in the fall of 2018. We’re about a year ahead of schedule and barring any major catastrophic weather events, we should be able to finish the entire project at this time next year.”

Tagert pointed out that, while this is an expensive project to get done, the overall benefit from the new interstate will help spur growth in the DeSoto-Marshall County area.

“This project is being built to the highest standards, which are federal interstate standards, which accommodate the greatest truck movement and the greatest weight movement in our country, and North America for that matter, Canada through the United States down to Mexico,” said Tagert. “These projects are particularly costly, but they have such an incredible return on that investment, which I think DeSoto and Marshall counties, and the state, will immediately realize. The total price tag on the major overall number for this work is approximately $600 million.”

Many officials, including Tagert, feel I-269 should accelerate growth and provide safer roadways elsewhere in the Mid-South region, as more semitrailer trucks and other such vehicles look to the roadway as a better alternative through the Mid-South to other parts of the country.

“It will be tremendous asset in economic development and attracting new business and manufacturing to the county,” Tagert said. “Something that sometimes gets overlooked is the vast safety improvements that this route will provide. It will really incrementally relieve some pressure on a lot of our local access roads, both within the municipalities and the county itself.”

In his comments about the interstate section being opened during Tuesday night’s Southaven Board of Aldermen meeting, Mayor Darren Musselwhite acknowledged again the importance of the connection.

“That’ll be huge for our community and the county,” Musselwhite said. “With economic development and it will give some relief to I-55 and the Church Road area. That will relieve some of the traffic because you’ll be able to bypass the area by hitting I-269. It’s a big deal.”

DeSoto County Board of Supervisors President Michael Lee also noted how the roadway makes the entire county more open to travelers coming through the county.

“I-269 will make DeSoto County much more accessible to those in the region and will generate new and exciting economic opportunities due to ease of access,” Lee said.

Tagert added his thanks to local partnerships that helped keep the I-269 construction work top of mind to completion.

“This would not have been possible without a significant team effort between the municipalities, Marshall and DeSoto counties, and between the counties themselves,” Tagert said.

Bob Bakken is Staff Writer and may be reached at 662-429-6397 ext. 240.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #512 on: December 08, 2017, 06:18:00 PM »

so does I-22 officially end at I-269 now?
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #513 on: December 08, 2017, 06:39:56 PM »

so does I-22 officially end at I-269 now?

According to the FHWA Interstate log; it has at least from the last "accounting"; there are 106.00 miles listed within MS; backing that off from the AL state line brings it right to the I-269 interchange in Byhalia.  Interstate-Guide.com agrees, citing Byhalia as the west terminus.  IIRC from previous pix, there are "END I-22" shield assemblies WB at the interchange as well; and according to the signage plans for I-269 at that location, only the EB US 78 freeway is co-signed as I-22.  IMO, collectively that pretty much nails down that interchange as the west end of I-22. 
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #514 on: December 08, 2017, 08:11:12 PM »

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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #515 on: December 09, 2017, 01:59:02 AM »

New article on I-269 from The Commercial Appeal....http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/money/business/development/2017/12/08/memphis-byhalia-nonstop-269-and-22-now-intersect/930196001/

The circus music sort of ruined that visual story.  Even "New Age" vapidity would have been better!
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #516 on: December 09, 2017, 11:47:29 AM »

The circus music sort of ruined that visual story.  Even "New Age" vapidity would have been better!

It's Gannett.  What do you expect?
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #517 on: December 09, 2017, 01:49:46 PM »

The circus music sort of ruined that visual story.  Even "New Age" vapidity would have been better!

It's Gannett.  What do you expect?

Yakety Sax?

High speed video.  Only thing it was missing was a Benny Hill chase...
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #518 on: December 09, 2017, 02:39:00 PM »

so does I-22 officially end at I-269 now?

According to the FHWA Interstate log; it has at least from the last "accounting"; there are 106.00 miles listed within MS; backing that off from the AL state line brings it right to the I-269 interchange in Byhalia.  Interstate-Guide.com agrees, citing Byhalia as the west terminus.  IIRC from previous pix, there are "END I-22" shield assemblies WB at the interchange as well; and according to the signage plans for I-269 at that location, only the EB US 78 freeway is co-signed as I-22.  IMO, collectively that pretty much nails down that interchange as the west end of I-22. 

The last I-22 signs were just west of Byhalia/ MS 309 as of October 2016, though that has likely changed now. Hopefully, I can get out that way sometime soon and do some research.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #519 on: December 09, 2017, 08:11:34 PM »

so does I-22 officially end at I-269 now?

According to the FHWA Interstate log; it has at least from the last "accounting"; there are 106.00 miles listed within MS; backing that off from the AL state line brings it right to the I-269 interchange in Byhalia.  Interstate-Guide.com agrees, citing Byhalia as the west terminus.  IIRC from previous pix, there are "END I-22" shield assemblies WB at the interchange as well; and according to the signage plans for I-269 at that location, only the EB US 78 freeway is co-signed as I-22.  IMO, collectively that pretty much nails down that interchange as the west end of I-22. 

The last I-22 signs were just west of Byhalia/ MS 309 as of October 2016, though that has likely changed now. Hopefully, I can get out that way sometime soon and do some research.

There is an end I 22 shield under the I 269 south bound bridge.

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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #520 on: December 09, 2017, 08:22:46 PM »

so does I-22 officially end at I-269 now?

According to the FHWA Interstate log; it has at least from the last "accounting"; there are 106.00 miles listed within MS; backing that off from the AL state line brings it right to the I-269 interchange in Byhalia.  Interstate-Guide.com agrees, citing Byhalia as the west terminus.  IIRC from previous pix, there are "END I-22" shield assemblies WB at the interchange as well; and according to the signage plans for I-269 at that location, only the EB US 78 freeway is co-signed as I-22.  IMO, collectively that pretty much nails down that interchange as the west end of I-22. 

The last I-22 signs were just west of Byhalia/ MS 309 as of October 2016, though that has likely changed now. Hopefully, I can get out that way sometime soon and do some research.

There is an end I 22 shield under the I 269 south bound bridge.


How recent?
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #521 on: December 09, 2017, 08:38:53 PM »

so does I-22 officially end at I-269 now?

According to the FHWA Interstate log; it has at least from the last "accounting"; there are 106.00 miles listed within MS; backing that off from the AL state line brings it right to the I-269 interchange in Byhalia.  Interstate-Guide.com agrees, citing Byhalia as the west terminus.  IIRC from previous pix, there are "END I-22" shield assemblies WB at the interchange as well; and according to the signage plans for I-269 at that location, only the EB US 78 freeway is co-signed as I-22.  IMO, collectively that pretty much nails down that interchange as the west end of I-22. 

The last I-22 signs were just west of Byhalia/ MS 309 as of October 2016, though that has likely changed now. Hopefully, I can get out that way sometime soon and do some research.

There is an end I 22 shield under the I 269 south bound bridge.


How recent?
I’ve been out there within the last 3 days and I can confirm that there is an end 22 sign headed west and a begin 22 sign headed east.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #522 on: December 10, 2017, 02:51:56 AM »

How recent?
I’ve been out there within the last 3 days and I can confirm that there is an end 22 sign headed west and a begin 22 sign headed east.

Both were posted by November 17th; they were part of the signage contract for I-269, as discussed earlier in this thread. They're midway between the two mainline bridges carrying I-269.
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #523 on: December 10, 2017, 12:45:18 PM »

How recent?
I’ve been out there within the last 3 days and I can confirm that there is an end 22 sign headed west and a begin 22 sign headed east.

Both were posted by November 17th; they were part of the signage contract for I-269, as discussed earlier in this thread. They're midway between the two mainline bridges carrying I-269.

I was out of town the week of the 17th, so I must have missed that memo
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Re: Interstate 269
« Reply #524 on: December 11, 2017, 11:15:31 AM »

I’m confused... does I-269 run from MS 305 to TN 385 or I-40?
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