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Petition created to merge Dakotas into one state

Started by golden eagle, January 11, 2019, 06:46:22 PM

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Road Hog

It was originally Dakota Territory so Dakota makes sense. However, Republicans will never countenance losing 2 Senate seats. So no go.

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kevinb1994

Quote from: golden eagle on January 11, 2019, 07:29:39 PM
But both states are very Republican.

Do they tend to lean authoritarian or libertarian?

TheHighwayMan3561

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Quote from: golden eagle on January 11, 2019, 07:29:39 PM
But both states are very Republican.

Yes, but you'd be going from 4 Rs to 2. That won't fly in today's razor-thin majority age.

In any case this whole petition is based on the premise of "it'd just be cool to do it"  so this isn't even that serious anyway.
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MNHighwayMan

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I'll support this if they bring back that sweet Indian head route marker for the new combined state.

KeithE4Phx

Quote from: golden eagle on January 11, 2019, 07:29:39 PM
But both states are very Republican.

Which was one reason why the Dakota Territory was split into two states in 1889 -- 4 Republican Senators and 2 Republican House members instead of 2 and 1, respectively.
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Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 11, 2019, 08:12:01 PM
I'll support this if they bring back that sweet Indian head route marker for the new combined state.

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Quote from: Road Hog on January 11, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
It was originally Dakota Territory so Dakota makes sense. However, Republicans will never countenance losing 2 Senate seats. So no go.
Actually believe it or not from 1996-2004 all 4 seats were held by Democrats and 3 out of 4 from 2004-2010. It wasn't until as recent as just this year that all 4 become Republican.

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Roadgeekteen

Changing it to East and West Dakota would make more sense IMHO.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 11, 2019, 11:06:54 PM
Changing it to East and West Dakota would make more sense IMHO.

Ever been there?  There's a reason for the north-south split over an east-west one.  Most of the population of these two states lives in the eastern third of each.
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txstateends

Quote from: golden eagle on January 11, 2019, 06:46:22 PM
The unofficial name is MegaKota, but I would just prefer it to be called Dakota.

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/u-s-world/more-than-10k-people-sign-petition-to-merge-north-and-south-dakota-into-one-megakota/1696350316

MegaKota??  >ugh<

I've heard of merging other spots before, such as counties and school districts, but 2 states merging sounds like a logistical cluster, even if there weren't the political party/makeup-of-Congress issue.  Almost as bad as the state secession or division-of-a-state talk that crops up sometimes.
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And why would they want to give up that amount of power that they now collectively have in the USSenate and Electoral College?

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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 11, 2019, 11:06:54 PM
Changing it to East and West Dakota would make more sense IMHO.

How about Legends & Leaders?

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Plot twist: the people signing it are all out-of-state Democrats looking for an edge.
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Quote from: texaskdog on January 12, 2019, 05:32:37 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 11, 2019, 11:06:54 PM
Changing it to East and West Dakota would make more sense IMHO.

How about Legends & Leaders?

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in Toastmasters we had a South Dakota District (41), North Dakota/NW Minnesota district (20), and Montana District (17).  Due to low population they merged them all together.  They added all the numbers up and got 78 which was coming up in the queue at the time.

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One could make arguments to merge Maryland/Delaware, Connecticut/Rhode Island, and New Hampshire/Vermont.  You could probably add Massachusetts in with Conn/RI as well.  It's not going to happen.  A lot of residents won't want the change, and political leaders (no matter their leaning) won't want to get rid of any political power they might have.

kphoger

Quote from: Brandon on January 11, 2019, 11:56:33 PM

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 11, 2019, 11:06:54 PM
Changing it to East and West Dakota would make more sense IMHO.

Ever been there?  There's a reason for the north-south split over an east-west one.  Most of the population of these two states lives in the eastern third of each.

I assumed that's what he meant, but he actually thought that was a good thing.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: golden eagle on January 11, 2019, 07:29:39 PM
But both states are very Republican.

Merge Connecticut and Rhode Island as a counterbalance.
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jeffandnicole

What if we just trade North Dakota for a Province to be named later?

webny99

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2019, 02:01:55 PM
What if we just trade North Dakota for a Province to be named later?

North Dakota does have a lot in common with Manitoba and Saskatchewan, but it should remain part of the US.

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Quote from: golden eagle on January 11, 2019, 06:46:22 PM
The unofficial name is MegaKota, but I would just prefer it to be called Dakota.
I would just prefer to call it bullshit.
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