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Dumb bypass reroutes

Started by billtm, May 20, 2014, 07:35:43 PM

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Tom958

Opp, Alabama! If I was king of Alabama, I'd probably move US 84 to AL 134 between Opp and Enterprise. It's a lot shorter for what little through traffic there likely is, and the route around Opp would be quite a bit less ridiculous.


CrystalWalrein

US 21 in Beaufort, South Carolina comes to mind. I sort of understand Parris Island, but there could have been other ways of doing it.

Strider

Quote from: froggie on May 21, 2014, 03:14:35 PM
QuoteThe situation in Greensboro comes to mind where I-40 was moved onto the "beltway," the old road was designated Green I-40, and then they changed it back to the old routing because the new route was so far out of the way.

Actually, they changed I-40 back because NCDOT realized they'd lose out on Interstate Maintenance funds.  The distance had nothing to do with it.

Also, whoever created that Wikipedia map is a bit off.  The I-85 portion of the Greensboro Loop opened in February, 2004.  "Future I-840" had opened previously to that, but I don't recall offhand when.  Perhaps Bob or Adam know?




Yes, Future I-840 opened first before the I-85 bypass opens. But it is only for a couple of months.

TheStranger

Route 16's post-1984 alignment in Woodland to take Road 98/County Route E7  out to I-5...is extremely awkward as it basically forces drivers from east of town along the interstate to go an extra 5 miles north and 5 miles south just to continue west.  I get that CalTrans wanted to remove the old Main Street routing through town (a 3.2 mile city street) from state maintenance -
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.677354,-121.745157/38.6776412,-121.8025449/@38.6819629,-121.7838338,14z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-121.7782088!2d38.6774895!3s0x8084d0efa262a88f:0x6bda2b69303d88ec!1m0!3e0

but the new route takes an additional 4 miles to get to Route 16 & Yolo County E7:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.677354,-121.745157/38.6776412,-121.8025449/@38.6886628,-121.7855504,14z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-121.7857262!2d38.7050112!3s0x8084d04122abfe07:0xaf489670c9e0ca50!1m0!3e0

The rural Kentucky Avenue would have made a better realignment IMO:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.6760853,-121.744036/38.6776412,-121.8025449/@38.6890648,-121.7918161,14z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-121.7688289!2d38.6919188!3s0x8084d0ff807c1029:0x364221c0e14196be!1m0!3e0
Chris Sampang

codyg1985

Quote from: Tom958 on May 24, 2014, 04:46:06 AM
Opp, Alabama! If I was king of Alabama, I'd probably move US 84 to AL 134 between Opp and Enterprise. It's a lot shorter for what little through traffic there likely is, and the route around Opp would be quite a bit less ridiculous.

The old routing of US 84 through Opp was briefly Alternate US 84 starting in 2005 (I don't know why a Business route wasn't used or accepted), but ALDOT petitioned AASHTO to remove it in 2010.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

Gnutella

Quote from: Tom958 on May 21, 2014, 06:03:06 AM
When I take US 431 through Dothan, I always go though downtown. It's shorter and has roughly the same number of traffic lights, and downtown Dothan is too dead to generate much congestion. It's been awhile since I've been there-- apparently the old road is now marked as SR 1, with US 431 on the bypass. But that won't fool me.  :-D

Yeah, all the development along the beltway around Dothan defeats the purpose of having one in the first place. Beltways are supposed to be a way for long-distance traffic to bypass a town quickly, but now, due to all the businesses along the one around Dothan, it gets overloaded with local traffic, and long-distance traffic saves no time at all. And from an urban planning perspective, all the development is a waste of space and resources too, especially as the central business district hollows out. Then again, the South isn't known for its utter lack of urban planning.

Another dumb rerouting is along the Athens (Georgia) Perimeter. The segment of the Perimeter between Macon Highway (Exit 4) and Lexington Road (Exit 8) carries U.S. 29, U.S. 78, U.S. 129 and U.S. 441 all at the same time, not to mention the three state routes, two of which are mostly redundant with U.S. routes across the state. Even worse, the Perimeter exits itself for U.S. 129 and U.S. 441.



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