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Title: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Pena Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: J N Winkler on April 30, 2013, 12:35:23 AM
Wichita's one example is semi-famous:  Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400), which despite the name is a full freeway for 13 miles.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: MBHockey13 on April 30, 2013, 01:11:36 AM
In Greensboro, Fordham Boulevard is I-40, Preddy Boulevard is Business (Green) I-85/US-29/US-70, and the new I-840 Loop will be Painter Boulevard. US-29 is called O.Henry Boulevard and is full freeway from I-40 to the city limits. Plus, Bryan Boulevard is almost full controlled access for its entire length, and Wendover Avenue is controlled access between Spring Garden and US-220.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: briantroutman on April 30, 2013, 02:29:50 AM
Philadelphia has Roosevelt Boulevard (US 1), which does continue on as a surface street, but is a freeway for about three miles from the Schuylkill Expressway to 9th Street. The freeway portion is technically called "Roosevelt Expressway", but in my experience, nearly everyone calls it Roosevelt Boulevard–and sometimes just "the Boulevard".

New York has both FDR Drive and Harlem River Drive–basically two sections of the same freeway–on the east side of Manhattan Island.

San Francisco has (had) Doyle Drive, which I suppose could be considered a freeway, but is currently being dismantled. I have not seen a definite answer yet on whether the old name will be applied to the new Presidio Parkway.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: amroad17 on April 30, 2013, 03:32:38 AM
I-44 in Tulsa is named Skelly Drive.
The spur from exit 289 on I-40 to I-440 in Raleigh is named Wade Ave.
The freeway portion of US 70 in Durham is named Muldee Street.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: elsmere241 on April 30, 2013, 08:50:38 AM
When I-90 in Seattle was a Super-2, it was called Lake Way.  Its RIRO intersections had street signs.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: PHLBOS on April 30, 2013, 08:54:30 AM
Also in Philly, I-676 is referred to as either the Vine St. Expressway or Vine Expressway.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: 1995hoo on April 30, 2013, 09:02:28 AM
A portion of Wade Avenue in Raleigh is freeway-grade, although back before they built the hockey arena they used to park cars on the grass median for NC State football games.

A small portion of Allen Road in Toronto is a freeway.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: oscar on April 30, 2013, 09:27:40 AM
In southwest Anchorage AK, the south end of Minnesota Dr., and the west end of O'Malley Rd., form a single L-shaped freeway, which is about five miles long and has six exits.  The freeway doesn't have its own name, nor is it assigned a route number, but the northern leg is sometimes known as the Minnesota Dr. Bypass.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: silverback1065 on April 30, 2013, 09:38:21 AM
SR 912 in Gary, known as Cline Ave.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: 3467 on April 30, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
The Eisenhower Expressway in Chicago(290) was originally the Congress street expressway. All the Chicago expressways/Freeways and Tollways have names now but I think only the IKE held an actual street name.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on April 30, 2013, 09:56:53 AM
Avenue Souligny in Montréal is a freeway between Dickson and Honoré-Beaugrand.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Brandon on April 30, 2013, 09:59:32 AM
Quote from: 3467 on April 30, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
The Eisenhower Expressway in Chicago(290) was originally the Congress street expressway. All the Chicago expressways/Freeways and Tollways have names now but I think only the IKE held an actual street name.

True, but it was the "Congress Street Expressway" for its full name.  When I-55 was built in 1956 through DuPage County, I think the name may have just been "Joliet Road" as that is what it replaced from Exit 268 to Exit 276C.

Part of the Calumet Expressway began as Doty Avenue; however, I am not sure from the maps I've seen where the name changed or if any of the expressway portion was "Doty Avenue".

Of course, there's always "Lake Shore Drive" which is mostly expressway or freeway.

Then we have the odd names such as the "Ohio Street Feeder Ramp".
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 30, 2013, 10:25:27 AM
"Drive" seems to be the most common manifestation in urban areas, but when Boston's Storrow Drive reaches turns northeast at Beacon Hill it becomes either Embankment Road or David G. Mugar Way, depending on who you ask.

At its western end near the B. U. Bridge, it changes again to Soldiers Field Road. 
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: 3467 on April 30, 2013, 10:27:03 AM
Some buildings even have an LSD address . That may be inner drive not outer drive
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Brandon on April 30, 2013, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: 3467 on April 30, 2013, 10:27:03 AM
Some buildings even have an LSD address . That may be inner drive not outer drive

It's both, even if there is no way to get to the Drive from the building.  It's more a matter of prestige than functionality.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Big John on April 30, 2013, 12:18:27 PM
I-43 bridge in Green Bay is referred as the "Tower Drive bridge" as the freeway was built where Tower Drive used to be.  But the pre-freeway road never crossed the Fox River.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: A.J. Bertin on April 30, 2013, 12:32:27 PM
Quote from: 3467 on April 30, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
All the Chicago expressways/Freeways and Tollways have names now

I don't think I-57 does.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Brandon on April 30, 2013, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on April 30, 2013, 12:32:27 PM
Quote from: 3467 on April 30, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
All the Chicago expressways/Freeways and Tollways have names now

I don't think I-57 does.

Technically, it does, as does I-80.

I-57 is the West Leg of the Dan Ryan Expressway.
I-80 is the Moline Expressway west of the Tri-State Tollway (I-294).
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Henry on April 30, 2013, 01:25:53 PM
I-695 in Washington, DC crosses the Anacostia River on the 11th Street Bridges.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on April 30, 2013, 01:32:53 PM
Toronto's Allen Road is an expressway, as is Hamilton's Burlington Street.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: huskeroadgeek on April 30, 2013, 01:50:06 PM
I think in most cases, freeways with street names are either former surface streets that have been upgraded to freeway status or freeway extensions of surface streets. I wonder how many of the above were just given street-like names without falling into one of those two categories?
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 30, 2013, 02:11:42 PM
In the Philly chatter above I thought the first one that came to me was mentioned, but it wasn't: Woodhaven Rd.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: NE2 on April 30, 2013, 02:45:06 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on April 30, 2013, 01:50:06 PM
I wonder how many of the above were just given street-like names without falling into one of those two categories?
Those are probably usually in large developments such as airports or Disney.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: WichitaRoads on April 30, 2013, 03:16:05 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 30, 2013, 12:35:23 AM
Wichita's one example is semi-famous:  Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400), which despite the name is a full freeway for 13 miles.

Ya beat me to it! You think they will ever just call it Kellogg Expressway? I hope not. How about a new name? This could carry over to the Central States....

ICTRds
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 30, 2013, 04:06:28 PM
Is the name "Avenue of the Saints" actually used?
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on April 30, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Peña Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.

FTFY. (My keyboard has that typical Spanish letter :spin:)

I've seen a few expressways around Madrid with ordinary street names.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: 3467 on April 30, 2013, 04:14:14 PM
I am near it and would say Iowans might know better but it is to some degree, being a direct route which had really wide support in both states
I would say the CKC in Illinois much less
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: webfil on April 30, 2013, 06:11:20 PM
There is a 3-km spur off A-25 in Montréal that bears the name "Avenue Souligny".
http://goo.gl/maps/IzEcQ

The signage is mute about that name, though :
-On Dickson Ave., you have to follow "To A-25/A-20/A-40" signs (http://goo.gl/maps/7c7dp);
-On A-25, the signs tell «Montréal CENTRE-VILLE [downtown]» (http://goo.gl/maps/yGn1a).
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: dgolub on April 30, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
In Philadelphia, there's Woodhaven Road (PA 63).  Also, on Long Island, there's Nicolls Road (Suffolk CR 97) and Cross River Drive (Suffolk CR 105) that are large multilane divided roads with numerous grade-separated interchanges, although there are some traffic lights on these roads as well.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: route56 on April 30, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: WichitaRoads on April 30, 2013, 03:16:05 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 30, 2013, 12:35:23 AM
Wichita's one example is semi-famous:  Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400), which despite the name is a full freeway for 13 miles.

Ya beat me to it! You think they will ever just call it Kellogg Expressway? I hope not. How about a new name? This could carry over to the Central States....

I think there's a reason I refer to my exit guide for said freeway segment as "Just Plain Kellogg."
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: JustDrive on April 30, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
CA 217 in Goleta is named Ward Memorial Blvd.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: national highway 1 on April 30, 2013, 08:35:33 PM
La Cienega Blvd in Los Angeles.
Presidio Pkwy (CA 1) and Doyle Dr (US 101) in San Francisco
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: NE2 on April 30, 2013, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: JustDrive on April 30, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
AN 217 in Le Goat is not named Alan Memorial Blvd.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 30, 2013, 08:43:30 PM
Quote from: ALAN2 on April 30, 2013, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: JustDrive on April 30, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
AN 217 in Le Goat is not named Alan Memorial Blvd.

no it isn't.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: pianocello on April 30, 2013, 11:03:28 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 30, 2013, 04:06:28 PM
Is the name "Avenue of the Saints" actually used?

Yes, at least partly. It's well signed with "Avenue of the Saints" banners in place of the directional banner along IA-27. I can only assume the same is true in Missouri.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: bugo on May 01, 2013, 01:44:43 AM
Bannister Road in Kansas City
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: bugo on May 01, 2013, 01:46:41 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 30, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Peña Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.

FTFY. (My keyboard has that typical Spanish letter :spin:)

I've seen a few expressways around Madrid with ordinary street names.

In English, it is spelled "pena" because we don't use accents.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: lordsutch on May 01, 2013, 03:25:01 AM
Memphis of course has Sam Cooper Boulevard (abandoned midtown I-40) and Plough Boulevard (the freeway from I-240 to the airport).  Functionally parts of Getwell Road and Jackson Avenue are freeways.  If we're including "parkway" as a normal street name, that'd add all three legs of TN 385 (Paul Barret, Nonconnah/Bill Morris, and Collierville-Arlington/Winfield Dunn).

In Tupelo you've got part of MS 178/McCullough Boulevard, and US 45 is designated as MLK Avenue.

AL 255 in Huntsville is Research Park Boulevard.

Various bits of the directional Boulevard almost-loop around Montgomery are freeway-standard (ironically perhaps the bits that are least travelled on the north side).

Metro Atlanta has Peachtree Industrial Boulevard (GA 141).

Probably dozens of roads in Texas designed with wide medians for future freeways fit this category too.  Most folks would apply the frontage name to the freeway too (e.g. Research Boulevard/US 183 and Ben White Blvd/TX 71 in Austin).
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on May 01, 2013, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: bugo on May 01, 2013, 01:46:41 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 30, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Peña Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.

FTFY. (My keyboard has that typical Spanish letter :spin:)

I've seen a few expressways around Madrid with ordinary street names.

In English, it is spelled "pena" because we don't use accents.
Colorado uses the tilde on signage for most Spanish names where it is appropriate. Cañon City and, yes, Peña Blvd. among others.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: dfwtbear on May 01, 2013, 10:38:08 AM
Walton Walker Blvd in western Dallas county is a freeway. Link below is some history of it.
http://www.dfwfreeways.info/pages/highwayInfo/highwayInfoHome.aspx?highway=12
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: bugo on May 01, 2013, 01:08:47 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on April 30, 2013, 03:32:38 AM
I-44 in Tulsa is named Skelly Drive.

Yes and no.  The freeway was originally named Skelly Drive but today Skelly refers to the frontage roads while the freeway itself is I-44/OK 66.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Henry on May 01, 2013, 01:34:54 PM
Quote from: MBHockey13 on April 30, 2013, 01:11:36 AM
In Greensboro, Fordham Boulevard is I-40, Preddy Boulevard is Business (Green) I-85/US-29/US-70, and the new I-840 Loop will be Painter Boulevard. US-29 is called O.Henry Boulevard and is full freeway from I-40 to the city limits. Plus, Bryan Boulevard is almost full controlled access for its entire length, and Wendover Avenue is controlled access between Spring Garden and US-220.
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 30, 2013, 09:02:28 AM
A portion of Wade Avenue in Raleigh is freeway-grade, although back before they built the hockey arena they used to park cars on the grass median for NC State football games.
Continuing the NC trend: Including the freeway section leading away from the center city, US 74 in east Charlotte carries the Independence Boulevard name.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Stephane Dumas on May 01, 2013, 06:20:30 PM
Quote from: webfil on April 30, 2013, 06:11:20 PM
There is a 3-km spur off A-25 in Montréal that bears the name "Avenue Souligny".
http://goo.gl/maps/IzEcQ

The signage is mute about that name, though :
-On Dickson Ave., you have to follow "To A-25/A-20/A-40" signs (http://goo.gl/maps/7c7dp);
-On A-25, the signs tell «Montréal CENTRE-VILLE [downtown]» (http://goo.gl/maps/yGn1a).


I remember some old maps of Montreal when A-40 was referred until the early 1980s to "Boulevard Metropolitain" instead of Autoroute Métropolitaine. Same with Decarie.  A-20 in West-Island was once marked as Montreal-Toronto Boulevard back when it was a regular divided highway part of PQ-2.

Major freeways, expressways in Calgary are referred as "Trail" like Crowchild Trail, Deerfoot Trail, Stoney Trail.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: vtk on May 01, 2013, 08:52:53 PM
In Columbus, the freeway portion of OH 104 shows up on some maps as Frank Road.  It's actually called Frank—Refugee Expressway, or James L Wanger Memorial Highway, but most folks just call it 104 (or The 104 Freeway, not as an imitation of SoCal, but to distinguish from the older 2-lane leg of 104 that runs down the west bank of the Scioto).

Cincinnati has the first 1½ mile of I-71 called Fort Washington Way.

St Louis has the Pearl Poplar Street Bridge or something like that, carrying like 4 Interstates across the Mississippi.

edit: remembered the correct expansion of PSB
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: jp the roadgeek on May 02, 2013, 08:16:03 AM
I-83 in Baltimore at it's stub southern end is President St.  Also, the Bulkeley Bridge in Hartford, which was incorporated into I-84, was originally built as the Morgan St. Bridge and connected directly with Connecticut Boulevard in East Hartford.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: oscar on May 02, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on May 01, 2013, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: bugo on May 01, 2013, 01:46:41 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 30, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Peña Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.

FTFY. (My keyboard has that typical Spanish letter :spin:)

In English, it is spelled "pena" because we don't use accents.

Colorado uses the tilde on signage for most Spanish names where it is appropriate. Cañon City and, yes, Peña Blvd. among others.

The Spanish alphabet treats "ñ" as a letter different from "n", which may be why CNGL-Leudimin has a keyboard with "ñ" on it as well as a standard "n".  If you want to do without the tilde for whatever reason, "ny" rather than just "n" is the better replacement for "ñ" (for example, "cañon" = "canyon").
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: 1995hoo on May 02, 2013, 09:33:54 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 30, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Peña Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.

FTFY. (My keyboard has that typical Spanish letter :spin:)

I've seen a few expressways around Madrid with ordinary street names.

FWIW, users with iDevices have easy access to the "accent mark"—style letters by holding down the respective "key" (for lack of a better word for a touchscreen keyboard)–holding down "N," for example, gives you the option of "ñ" or "ń" (or the capitalized form if needed).

The foregoing sentence is the first time I've ever used that feature, though.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: elsmere241 on May 02, 2013, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: oscar on May 02, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
The Spanish alphabet treats "ñ" as a letter different from "n", which may be why CNGL-Leudimin has a keyboard with "ñ" on it as well as a standard "n".  If you want to do without the tilde for whatever reason, "ny" rather than just "n" is the better replacement for "ñ" (for example, "cañon" = "canyon").

In Italian that sound is spelled "gn" as in "lasagna".
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: mgk920 on May 02, 2013, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: WichitaRoads on April 30, 2013, 03:16:05 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 30, 2013, 12:35:23 AM
Wichita's one example is semi-famous:  Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400), which despite the name is a full freeway for 13 miles.

Ya beat me to it! You think they will ever just call it Kellogg Expressway? I hope not. How about a new name? This could carry over to the Central States....

ICTRds

This is one case where a previous regular surface street was progressively upgraded over the years to become a full freeway.  These upgrades are still under way.

Mike
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: lepidopteran on May 02, 2013, 12:40:19 PM
Two around Dayton, OH:
And at Walt Disney World in Florida, "World Drive" is built to freeway standards between Epcot Center Drive and US-192 -- and would be all the way to the southern terminus if not for two at-grade T-intersections.

In Virginia, VA-28 was recently upgraded to full freeway between the signalized entrance to Lawrence Park and its northern terminus at VA-7.  (The RIRO entrance to the Sully Plantation was relocated to the museum interchange)  Yet it still seems to be called Sully Rd.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: TheStranger on May 02, 2013, 02:16:22 PM
In California...beyond the Doyle Drive example...

- For years (not sure if still the case now), the segment of what is now Route 15 south of I-805 in San Diego was "Wabash Boulevard", dating back to the 1950s before the route had received a number.

- Is the section of former Route 134 in Glendale "Colorado Freeway" or "Colorado Boulevard"?  Google Maps lists it as the "Colorado Street Freeway Extension"

- Although this will change with the ongoing removal of the cloverleaf at US 50, Watt Avenue in Sacramento between Fair Oaks Boulevard and Folsom Boulevard is functionally a short full freeway.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 02, 2013, 02:34:32 PM
Bakersfield, CA also has the Alfred Harrell Highway.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Molandfreak on May 02, 2013, 02:45:11 PM
Cedar Avenue in MN. No one refers to it as highway 77 (it's freeway segment), county 23, or county 152. ;-)
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 02, 2013, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: oscar on May 02, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on May 01, 2013, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: bugo on May 01, 2013, 01:46:41 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 30, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Peña Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.

FTFY. (My keyboard has that typical Spanish letter :spin:)

In English, it is spelled "pena" because we don't use accents.

Colorado uses the tilde on signage for most Spanish names where it is appropriate. Cañon City and, yes, Peña Blvd. among others.

The Spanish alphabet treats "ñ" as a letter different from "n", which may be why CNGL-Leudimin has a keyboard with "ñ" on it as well as a standard "n".  If you want to do without the tilde for whatever reason, "ny" rather than just "n" is the better replacement for "ñ" (for example, "cañon" = "canyon").

French and Italian use gn...  i.e. Espagne for Spain... pronounced just like the Spanish. Espana... forgive me for not using the tilde... I dont have time to figure out how to do it on this keyboard..
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 02, 2013, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: 3467 on April 30, 2013, 10:27:03 AM
Some buildings even have an LSD address . That may be inner drive not outer drive

There should be some college dorms with LSD addresses
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 02, 2013, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 30, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Peña Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.

FTFY. (My keyboard has that typical Spanish letter :spin:)

I've seen a few expressways around Madrid with ordinary street names.

NO need to get all MC Grammar here... Most keyboards dont have diacritcs ( accents etc) from other languages.  We are writing in English and most of us would not be thrown off by a n being used when Spanish has a tilde  Many Slavic names are prouniouched in English with an "...ic"  which has the check on top making it a "ch"... some actually changed the spelling to end in "..ch" .  My Chiropractor is named Zivkovic.. we all say "ic" even though I know in Serbian is is "ch"...  FWIW  I speak and write Spanish very well, I am pretty much bilingual but rusty. ... I'm not one of those "speak Amer-i-can" people.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 02, 2013, 03:09:12 PM
Jacksonville has JTB or J. Turner Butler Boulevard (or SR 202)... all but about 2 blocks is full freeway... when it was build about 4 miles was surface street but it was upgraded before sprawl
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: cpzilliacus on May 02, 2013, 03:10:24 PM
In the District of Columbia, the north end of D.C. 295 is called Kenilworth Avenue. 

North of Benning Road, N.E., it has frontage roads which share that name, complete with development on those frontage roads.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: oscar on May 02, 2013, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 02, 2013, 02:55:57 PM
forgive me for not using the tilde... I dont have time to figure out how to do it on this keyboard..

On a traditional computer keyboard, pressing the ALT key, then typing 164 on the numeric keyboard (not the regular number keys), usually does the trick.  But when I tried it here in this Quick Reply box, it came up with an emoticon.  So to type "ñ" I instead did the above in Notepad, then copied the resulting ñ here. 

Not that necessary here, but useful in other contexts where tildes and other diacritical marks can radically affect the meaning of a word.  Also, the same trick works for Greek letters, and miscellaneous typographic symbols like º (alt-167) and ¼ (alt-172).
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: lepidopteran on May 02, 2013, 09:22:53 PM
Quote from: Henry on April 30, 2013, 01:25:53 PM
I-695 in Washington, DC crosses the Anacostia River on the 11th Street Bridges.
And I-395 crosses the Potomac River on the 14th Street Bridge.  Not to mention going through the 3rd Street Tunnel.  (The 9th Street and 12th Street tunnels, which are exits off of I-395, could be considered a bifurcated freeway.)
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: NE2 on May 02, 2013, 09:25:50 PM
Quote from: oscar on May 02, 2013, 04:51:25 PM
Not that necessary here, but useful in other contexts where tildes and other diacritical marks can radically affect the meaning of a word.
Happy new anus!
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: vtk on May 02, 2013, 09:29:02 PM
ALT+164 is the DOS sequence, which Windows continues to support because MS doesn't like to break the little things that don't really matter.  The Windows way to do it is ALT+0241 – the leading zero means to look up the character in the Windows "Western" character set, assuming that's the character set "in use", a distinction made largely obsolete by Unicode.  Many apps allow a sequence like CTRL+~ N.

On a Mac, there's probably an easy way to do it with some combination of the Option, Cloverleaf, and/or N keys.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: lepidopteran on May 02, 2013, 10:15:55 PM
How about "Alligator Alley" in Florida?  Granted, it was just a 2-lane road before it was upgraded to Interstate standards.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: lepidopteran on May 02, 2013, 11:53:56 PM
In Annapolis, MD:  The freeway part of MD-665 is called Aris T. Allen Blvd.  Granted, there are two RIROs near the eastern terminus, plus one that goes nowhere.  There's also a slip ramp (?) that leads to a (strip) shopping center.  The non-freeway part continues as Forest Drive.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Bickendan on May 02, 2013, 11:55:23 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on May 02, 2013, 02:45:11 PM
Cedar Avenue in MN. No one refers to it as highway 77 (it's freeway segment), county 23, or county 152. ;-)
Continuing on that, isn't US 12/I-394 Wayzata Blvd?

Over here in Portland, the segment of US 26 between exits 71A (OR 8) and 73 is SW Canyon Rd, though colloquially it's referred to as the Sunset [Hwy].
The freeway portion of US 30 between I-405 and NW Nicolai Ave doesn't have a name, though it could be an extension of NW Yeon Ave.
NE Airport Way between NW 82nd Ave (OR 213) and I-205 has its own exit (Cascades Station).
The expressway portion of SE McGloughlin Blvd (OR 99E) along Westmoreland and Sellwood is known as just that.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Molandfreak on May 02, 2013, 11:55:40 PM
Quote from: vtk on May 02, 2013, 09:29:02 PM
ALT+164 is the DOS sequence, which Windows continues to support because MS doesn't like to break the little things that don't really matter.  The Windows way to do it is ALT+0241 – the leading zero means to look up the character in the Windows "Western" character set, assuming that's the character set "in use", a distinction made largely obsolete by Unicode.  Many apps allow a sequence like CTRL+~ N.

On a Mac, there's probably an easy way to do it with some combination of the Option, Cloverleaf, and/or N keys.
Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Molandfreak on May 02, 2013, 11:59:34 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on May 02, 2013, 11:55:23 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on May 02, 2013, 02:45:11 PM
Cedar Avenue in MN. No one refers to it as highway 77 (it's freeway segment), county 23, or county 152. ;-)
Continuing on that, isn't US 12/I-394 Wayzata Blvd?
Yep, and U.S. 10 is Main Street through Anoka (partial freeway)

And MN 47 (University Avenue) has a short freeway segment to connect it with U.S. 10.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: NE2 on May 03, 2013, 12:17:44 AM
Many of these are ordinary streets given freeway upgrades.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: mrose on May 03, 2013, 12:21:25 AM
On no, look what I've started.  :poke:
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: mcmc on May 03, 2013, 03:53:43 AM
I-195 in Maryland is Metropolitan Blvd.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: froggie on May 03, 2013, 05:38:05 AM
One not mentioned yet:  the part of I-20/59 through Meridian (to the MS 39 interchange) is technically Tom Bailey Drive, but nobody calls it that.

QuoteIn Virginia, VA-28 was recently upgraded to full freeway between the signalized entrance to Lawrence Park and its northern terminus at VA-7.  (The RIRO entrance to the Sully Plantation was relocated to the museum interchange)  Yet it still seems to be called Sully Rd.

Yes, VA 28 is still Sully Rd through there.

QuoteCedar Avenue in MN. No one refers to it as highway 77 (it's freeway segment), county 23, or county 152.

True on the last one...One occasionally hears the other two, especially south of Apple Valley for County 23.  It's not common on the Hwy 77 stretch, though.

It should also be noted that, in light of NE2's comment, the stretch of MN 77/Cedar Ave from the Mall of America down to I-35E was all new-alignment construction, not an "ordinary street given freeway upgrade".

QuoteYep, and U.S. 10 is Main Street through Anoka (partial freeway)

The part of US 10 that is coincident with Main St is the at-grade section northwest of downtown.  The freeway is simply "Highway 10".

QuoteAnd MN 47 (University Avenue) has a short freeway segment to connect it with U.S. 10.

That part of MN 47 is not University Ave.  University Ave splits off of MN 47 in front of Northtown Mall.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: mgk920 on May 03, 2013, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: vtk on May 02, 2013, 09:29:02 PM
ALT+164 is the DOS sequence, which Windows continues to support because MS doesn't like to break the little things that don't really matter.  The Windows way to do it is ALT+0241 — the leading zero means to look up the character in the Windows "Western" character set, assuming that's the character set "in use", a distinction made largely obsolete by Unicode.  Many apps allow a sequence like CTRL+~ N.

On a Mac, there's probably an easy way to do it with some combination of the Option, Cloverleaf, and/or N keys.

On a Mac - 'alt/option+'N'', then type an 'n'.

ñ

For a Spanish-language accent, it is 'alt/option+'E'', then type the letter that you want accented - á, é, í, ó and ú

Same procedure with the German ü.

:nod:

Mike

Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 03, 2013, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: oscar on May 02, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on May 01, 2013, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: bugo on May 01, 2013, 01:46:41 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on April 30, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: mrose on April 30, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
This is meant to be a compliment to the "Highways that are city streets" thread.

I'll start with two here in Denver - 6th Ave (US 6) and Peña Blvd. (the airport spur). Both are full freeways.

FTFY. (My keyboard has that typical Spanish letter :spin:)

In English, it is spelled "pena" because we don't use accents.

Colorado uses the tilde on signage for most Spanish names where it is appropriate. Cañon City and, yes, Peña Blvd. among others.

The Spanish alphabet treats "ñ" as a letter different from "n", which may be why CNGL-Leudimin has a keyboard with "ñ" on it as well as a standard "n".  If you want to do without the tilde for whatever reason, "ny" rather than just "n" is the better replacement for "ñ" (for example, "cañon" = "canyon").

Spanish used to treat "LL" as a separate letter than "L".  But the academy in Madrid no longer considers LL a separate letter
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: TheStranger on May 03, 2013, 11:27:06 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 02, 2013, 02:34:32 PM
Bakersfield, CA also has the Alfred Harrell Highway.

Is Route 1 in Daly City/Pacifica just the "Cabrillo Highway" even as a freeway?
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: 1995hoo on May 03, 2013, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: froggie on May 03, 2013, 05:38:05 AM
....

QuoteIn Virginia, VA-28 was recently upgraded to full freeway between the signalized entrance to Lawrence Park and its northern terminus at VA-7.  (The RIRO entrance to the Sully Plantation was relocated to the museum interchange)  Yet it still seems to be called Sully Rd.

Yes, VA 28 is still Sully Rd through there.

....

Indeed when I check the online statement for my E-ZPass account it refers to the Route 28 toll plaza as "Sully Rd" (if I hover over the plaza code). I can't say as I recall the last time I heard anyone actually use that name, though, other than when I used it myself about two weeks ago (but only because Ms1995hoo and I were in the car on that road and I commented that I remember when it was a two-lane road out in the sticks and people knew it as "Sully Road"....she did not remember those days).
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: route56 on May 03, 2013, 08:17:36 PM
In Kansas City: Bruce R. Watkins Drive. (AKA, the reason why I-49 ends at the Triangle). Planned as a freeway, built as a partial freeway/partial expressway by consent decree. I think most of you know the story by now ;)
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Bickendan on May 04, 2013, 12:14:33 AM
Quote from: froggie on May 03, 2013, 05:38:05 AM
QuoteCedar Avenue in MN. No one refers to it as highway 77 (it's freeway segment), county 23, or county 152.

True on the last one...One occasionally hears the other two, especially south of Apple Valley for County 23.  It's not common on the Hwy 77 stretch, though.

It should also be noted that, in light of NE2's comment, the stretch of MN 77/Cedar Ave from the Mall of America down to I-35E was all new-alignment construction, not an "ordinary street given freeway upgrade".
The amusing thing about the southern Cedar Ave freeway alignment is that Cedar Ave retains its name south of the end of the freeway, technically displaced from the grid from its northern at-grade portion in Minneapolis, unlike other arteries like, say, Portland Ave and Nicollette Ave.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: froggie on May 04, 2013, 02:56:44 AM
Has to do with the old Cedar Ave bridge (ca. 1890) being in place before the streetnaming grid.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Ned Weasel on May 05, 2013, 10:22:25 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on May 02, 2013, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: WichitaRoads on April 30, 2013, 03:16:05 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 30, 2013, 12:35:23 AM
Wichita's one example is semi-famous:  Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400), which despite the name is a full freeway for 13 miles.

Ya beat me to it! You think they will ever just call it Kellogg Expressway? I hope not. How about a new name? This could carry over to the Central States....

ICTRds

This is one case where a previous regular surface street was progressively upgraded over the years to become a full freeway.  These upgrades are still under way.

Mike

I usually refer to it as "The Kellogg Freeway," and if you Google those words, inside quotation marks, you'll find that I'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Ned Weasel on May 05, 2013, 10:31:58 PM
What about expressways that have no route number whatsoever, and are only designated as city streets?  Shawnee Mission Parkway in Shawnee, KS, between Pflumm Road and KS 7, is one such example.  Any others?  Is there already a thread for this?

http://maps.google.com/?ll=39.011048,-94.792614&spn=0.068827,0.169086&t=m&z=13
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: vtk on May 06, 2013, 06:46:05 AM
A section of Henderson Road in Columbus has the access-control characteristics and high speed (for an urban arterial) of an expressway, but not breakdown lanes or Chapter 2E signage.  Similar with Alum Creek Drive from I-270 to Rickenbacker. 
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: webfil on May 06, 2013, 01:36:52 PM
London, Ontario has a 5-km expressway that connects the core of the city to ON-401 named "Highbury Avenue".

http://goo.gl/maps/9lpsm
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Molandfreak on May 06, 2013, 01:38:59 PM
U.S. 52 expressway, St. Paul to Rochester:

(Lafayette Freeway),
Courthouse Bouleverd,
Clayton Avenue,
Coates Boulevard,
Emery Avenue,
Rochester Boulevard,
(Highway 52 Boulevard),
(U.S. 52).

I don't know why Dakota County has to make things so difficult. :pan:
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: route56 on May 06, 2013, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on May 05, 2013, 10:31:58 PM
What about expressways that have no route number whatsoever, and are only designated as city streets?  Shawnee Mission Parkway in Shawnee, KS, between Pflumm Road and KS 7, is one such example.

Shawnee Mission Parkway is the former K-12, née K-10, and is likely a special case.

In KCS, the Turner Diagonal formerly carried US 40 and K-132, but is now a KCK roadway north of Kaw Drive/K-32.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: lepidopteran on May 06, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Don't forget MD-200, the "Inter-County Connector".  Of course, "connector" isn't really an ordinary street name, but it seems a little unsung for a TOLL expressway.  Same could be said about the "Dulles Greenway", part of VA-267 and also a toll road.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2013, 10:41:19 PM
Padre Island Drive is one of the Texas freeways that has an ordinary street name to it.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 06, 2013, 11:49:29 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on May 06, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Don't forget MD-200, the "Inter-County Connector".  Of course, "connector" isn't really an ordinary street name, but it seems a little unsung for a TOLL expressway.  Same could be said about the "Dulles Greenway", part of VA-267 and also a toll road.

Georgia seems to like " xxx Connector"   Around Atlanta they seem to be at least expressways. I know here in Jacksonville we have the "Wonderwood Connector" which is at least an expressway for much of the route.  ( here in Jacksonville Expressway=Freeway for natives, but I mean expressway in the the California sense)
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: DandyDan on May 07, 2013, 02:07:17 AM
In Omaha, US 6 west of I-680 is officially West Dodge Road, although everyone calls it Dodge Street, largely because it is a westward extension of what is officially Dodge Street.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: roadman65 on May 07, 2013, 03:49:54 PM
Jacksonville, Florida did call part of the freeway section of US 1 Alternate the 20th Street Expressway.  20th Street itself was the arterial section that is mainline US 1 after US 1 Alternate ended and continued under I-95 transforming from freeway to street status.  However, the signs on I-95 for US 1 South leading to US 1 Alternate did say 20th Street as well as US 1 Northbound at Exit 354 the transitioning point.

Now that it is all the Martin Luther King Parkway both US 1 and its child, I am sure they do not call that section of freeway the M.L.K Parkway Expressway as Parkway is a common name for a freeway, hence New York State.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: txstateends on May 08, 2013, 05:44:06 PM
In Amarillo, I-27/US 60/US 87 south of I-40 is officially Canyon Drive (although most locals spiff it up a bit, with the majority dubbing it "the E-way"); north of downtown, US 87/US 287 is officially Dumas Drive.  Why the city never updated the names to include their current condition/type, I don't know.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: national highway 1 on May 08, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
A few from Sydney
Homebush Bay Dr, Concord
http://goo.gl/maps/l5gCE (http://goo.gl/maps/l5gCE)
Silverwater Rd, Ermington
http://goo.gl/maps/obORQ (http://goo.gl/maps/obORQ)
Southern Cross Dr, General Holmes Dr and Foreshore Rd near Sydney Airport
http://goo.gl/maps/SXLEM (http://goo.gl/maps/SXLEM)
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: BakoCondors on May 18, 2013, 12:51:32 AM
CA-204 (old US 99) in Bakersfield is a freeway from F Street northwest to its junction with CA-99 west of Airport Drive but to the locals and on the southbound 99 signage it is Golden State Avenue.

Fresno, I believe also has a short stub of old US-99 named Golden State Boulevard, between Ventura Ave & Church Ave, that's darn near a freeway, or at least a very long exit/entrance ramp.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: froggie on May 18, 2013, 03:55:32 AM
Quote(Lafayette Freeway),
Courthouse Bouleverd,
Clayton Avenue,
Coates Boulevard,
Emery Avenue,
Rochester Boulevard,
(Highway 52 Boulevard),
(U.S. 52).

Clayton Ave is not official...it refers to the frontage roads, not US 52 itself.  On the other hand, US 52 is Emery Ave through Hampton.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Molandfreak on May 19, 2013, 12:56:33 AM
Quote from: froggie on May 18, 2013, 03:55:32 AM
Quote(Lafayette Freeway),
Courthouse Bouleverd,
Clayton Avenue,
Coates Boulevard,
Emery Avenue,
Rochester Boulevard,
(Highway 52 Boulevard),
(U.S. 52).

Clayton Ave is not official...it refers to the frontage roads, not US 52 itself.  On the other hand, US 52 is Emery Ave through Hampton.
Doesn't Flint Hills have a Clayton Ave address?
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: PAHighways on May 19, 2013, 11:27:26 AM
I-579/Crosstown Boulevard (http://www.pahighways.com/interstates/I579.html) in Pittsburgh
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: jwolfer on May 20, 2013, 11:25:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 07, 2013, 03:49:54 PM
Jacksonville, Florida did call part of the freeway section of US 1 Alternate the 20th Street Expressway.  20th Street itself was the arterial section that is mainline US 1 after US 1 Alternate ended and continued under I-95 transforming from freeway to street status.  However, the signs on I-95 for US 1 South leading to US 1 Alternate did say 20th Street as well as US 1 Northbound at Exit 354 the transitioning point.

Now that it is all the Martin Luther King Parkway both US 1 and its child, I am sure they do not call that section of freeway the M.L.K Parkway Expressway as Parkway is a common name for a freeway, hence New York State.

The freeway portion of US1 was 20th St Expressway on the east-west portion and the Haines St Expressway on the north-south portion.  Haines street expressway has service roads and buesinesses for most of the length but the 20th street expressway did not have services.  When they changed the name to MLK Parkway the service roads were kept as Haines Street so the businesses didn't have to change their addresses
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: golden eagle on May 23, 2013, 10:54:14 PM
GA 154/166 was known as Langford Parkway, but my American Map atlas shows it named as Lakewood Freeway.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: lordsutch on May 24, 2013, 11:11:52 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on May 23, 2013, 10:54:14 PM
GA 154/166 was known as Langford Parkway, but my American Map atlas shows it named as Lakewood Freeway.

It was originally the Lakewood Freeway (and supposed to be part of I-420), now it's Langford Parkway.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: NE2 on May 24, 2013, 11:39:40 PM
Parkway is pretty ordinary for a freeway.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: doorknob60 on May 27, 2013, 01:12:14 AM
Beltline Rd. in Eugene, OR is a freeway (other than the last mile or 2 before OR-126) from I-5 to OR-126 on the west side of Eugene. It now has a state route number, OR-569 (it used to not), but Beltline Rd. is the most common name for it.

Just looked on Wikipedia, and apperantly its official name is now "Randy Papé Beltline", but whatever, it'll always be Beltline Rd. to me :P
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 27, 2013, 01:52:59 AM
I almost ran out of gas once when I took the Beltline Rd. exit off I-5 and tried to find access to businesses.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Pete from Boston on June 02, 2013, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 06, 2013, 11:49:29 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on May 06, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Don't forget MD-200, the "Inter-County Connector".  Of course, "connector" isn't really an ordinary street name, but it seems a little unsung for a TOLL expressway.  Same could be said about the "Dulles Greenway", part of VA-267 and also a toll road.

Georgia seems to like " xxx Connector"   Around Atlanta they seem to be at least expressways. I know here in Jacksonville we have the "Wonderwood Connector" which is at least an expressway for much of the route.  ( here in Jacksonville Expressway=Freeway for natives, but I mean expressway in the the California sense)

There are a few of these in New England.  There's the Lowell Connector, which connects Lowell to the highway network, and the Loop Connector (recently disappeared from 93 signs) which connects 93 and 495.  Loop Connector is one of those name that doesn't tell you very much but I always liked its oddness.  I have no idea how much or if it's used.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: deathtopumpkins on June 03, 2013, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 02, 2013, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 06, 2013, 11:49:29 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on May 06, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Don't forget MD-200, the "Inter-County Connector".  Of course, "connector" isn't really an ordinary street name, but it seems a little unsung for a TOLL expressway.  Same could be said about the "Dulles Greenway", part of VA-267 and also a toll road.

Georgia seems to like " xxx Connector"   Around Atlanta they seem to be at least expressways. I know here in Jacksonville we have the "Wonderwood Connector" which is at least an expressway for much of the route.  ( here in Jacksonville Expressway=Freeway for natives, but I mean expressway in the the California sense)

There are a few of these in New England.  There's the Lowell Connector, which connects Lowell to the highway network, and the Loop Connector (recently disappeared from 93 signs) which connects 93 and 495.  Loop Connector is one of those name that doesn't tell you very much but I always liked its oddness.  I have no idea how much or if it's used.

I've never heard anyone refer to it at all, so I don't really know how people call it, but as of yesterday (Saturday), when I drove it both directions in its entirety, signage on both I-93 and I-495 still refer to it as both MA 213 and the Loop Connector, with the small text next to the shields.


Other connectors in New England include the Mass Ave Connector in Boston, and the Biddeford and Scarborough connectors off the Maine Turnpike.

This reminded me of another notable name - the "Maine Turnpike Approach", which connects the Maine Turnpike to 295, the Maine Mall, the Scarborough Connector, and US 1 in South Portland. I've seen this name on multiple maps, and it is used in MaineDOT's 511 alerts, so I presume it's official.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: vtk on June 03, 2013, 10:27:36 AM
On connectors, Columbus has a few.  They're surface streets.  There's Main St — Rich St Connector, one way northbound, which may have at one time carried US 33 n-westbound.  There's also the Goodale — Neil Connector, but I think that's just signed as Vine St now.  I want to say there's a third example but I can't remember where.

So I suppose Connector is an "ordinary" street name suffix after all, as central Ohio has more of those as surface streets than as freeways.  But I would also consider this to be a different phenomenon from state route spurs like Georgia state route CONN 347.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: sandwalk on June 03, 2013, 02:17:19 PM
-North 2nd Street in Rockford is partially freeway / expressway with 3/4 lanes each direction for about 2 miles north of the downtown. IL-251 (formerly US 51) runs on this alignment, which also has the honorary name 'Martin Luther King Memorial Drive' (never used).

-Roosevelt Road (IL-38) freeway near Elmhurst, Illinois between IL-83 and the Tri-State Tollway (I-294).

-Not really all that ordinary, but parts of I-90 and State Route 2 near Cleveland are named the 'Shoreway' (also carries US 20 for a bit).

-State Route 21 in Massillon, Ohio is known as Great Lakes Boulevard, which has freeway and expressway segments.

-Fort Wayne has a tiny section of Goshen Road as a freeway near its interchange with I-69 and US 30 / US 33.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: ET21 on June 04, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
IL-83 (Kingery Highway): Between 63rd street and I-88.

US 12-20-45 (LaGrange Road): Between 87th Street and I-55

Illinois 171 (Archer Ave/1st Ave): Between 55th Street and Plainfield Road/US-34 Ogden Avenue intersection.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: vtk on June 04, 2013, 02:55:06 PM
Kingery Highway is an ordinary street name? To me it sounds more fit for a freeway than for every north-south county road (most of which are gravel) in Lenawee County, Michigan.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 04, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
Quote from: vtk on June 04, 2013, 02:55:06 PM
Kingery Highway is an ordinary street name? To me it sounds more fit for a freeway than for every north-south county road (most of which are gravel) in Lenawee County, Michigan.

"kingery" sounds like some archaic crime.  "he was arrested for allegedly committing three counts of kingery, and one count of affray, all with the same goat."
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: kphoger on June 04, 2013, 03:14:29 PM
For some of the Chicago area examples, I should point out that the segments mentioned are simply controlled-access portions of otherwise surface-level roads.  I hardly think we should expect them to rename, for example, that 2.5-mile portion of Roosevelt Road just because there happen to be no cross-streets or entrances along there.  The Roosevelt Road name, after all extends 34 miles, from Lake Shore Drive to the Geneva village line.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Brandon on June 04, 2013, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: vtk on June 04, 2013, 02:55:06 PM
Kingery Highway is an ordinary street name? To me it sounds more fit for a freeway than for every north-south county road (most of which are gravel) in Lenawee County, Michigan.

There's also a Kingery Expressway in the Chicago area to add to some confusion.  It's a part freeway, part divided highway road.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 04, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
"kingery" sounds like some archaic crime.  "he was arrested for allegedly committing three counts of kingery, and one count of affray, all with the same goat."

It's actually a name, Robert Kingery, former Director of Illinois Public Works (forerunner of IDOT), Regional Director of the Chicago Regional Planning Association, and a proponent of the current Illinois Tollway configuration around Chicago.  He died in 1951, and his name was applied to the Kingery Expressway (I-80/94) in 1953, and also applied to the highway in DuPage County (IL-83).
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: 31E on June 05, 2013, 08:07:22 PM
In Middle Tennessee, the freeway portion of TN 386 is designated "Vietnam Veteran's Blvd" for its entire length.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: ET21 on June 05, 2013, 08:13:14 PM
Quote from: vtk on June 04, 2013, 02:55:06 PM
Kingery Highway is an ordinary street name? To me it sounds more fit for a freeway than for every north-south county road (most of which are gravel) in Lenawee County, Michigan.

It's the actual street name, combination of both surface and freeway. There's Southwest Highway and Northwest Highway as well in Chicagoland, but both don't have any freeway characteristics.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Brandon on June 06, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
Quote from: ET21 on June 05, 2013, 08:13:14 PM
Quote from: vtk on June 04, 2013, 02:55:06 PM
Kingery Highway is an ordinary street name? To me it sounds more fit for a freeway than for every north-south county road (most of which are gravel) in Lenawee County, Michigan.

It's the actual street name, combination of both surface and freeway. There's Southwest Highway and Northwest Highway as well in Chicagoland, but both don't have any freeway characteristics.

Don't forget about Skokie Highway (US-41) which also has a combination of surface and freeway characteristics.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: kphoger on June 06, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
And don't forget the Lincoln Highway, which is not entirely expressway or freeway.

Seriously, guys, "highway" does not equal "freeway" or "expressway" (skyscrapercity be damned).



PS   we're now talking about the converse (??? - it's been a long time since logic class) of the OP.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: vtk on June 06, 2013, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 06, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
And don't forget the Lincoln Highway, which is not entirely expressway or freeway.

Seriously, guys, "highway" does not equal "freeway" or "expressway" (skyscrapercity be damned).

PS   we're now talking about the converse (??? - it's been a long time since logic class) of the OP.

That's actually point of variation across the country in American English.  According to one of the maps at http://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps-that-show-the-deepest-linguistic-conflicts-in-america-2013-6, much of the country (including Ohio) tends to prefer the word "highway" as a general term for a major road for high-speed travel.  According to that same map, some places prefer "freeway" for that, and some places use both, but with a slight distinction in meaning between the two.

But yes, "highway" can also mean essentially any public road, even a gravel township-maintained road.  But clearly for many people, it implies an important road, possibly even a freeway.  For some people, on the other hand (perhaps many from Lenawee County, MI) "highway" is much more likely to be part of an ordinary road name like "road" or "pike".
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: kphoger on June 06, 2013, 02:18:16 PM
But the question "What is your general term for a big road that you drive relatively fast on?" doesn't even imply to me that it has to be four lanes, even.  US-400 between Wichita and Pittsburg is a big road that I drive relatively fast on, yet it is in no way an expressway or a freeway.  It is a highway, though.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: 1995hoo on June 06, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 06, 2013, 02:18:16 PM
But the question "What is your general term for a big road that you drive relatively fast on?" doesn't even imply to me that it has to be four lanes, even.  US-400 between Wichita and Pittsburg is a big road that I drive relatively fast on, yet it is in no way an expressway or a freeway.  It is a highway, though.

Part of the problem inherent in the point you raise is that they had to come up with a way to frame it without using a leading question.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: kphoger on June 06, 2013, 02:27:20 PM
Indeed.  But that doesn't mean it's OK for the purpose of this thread to say that "Highway 50" in O'Fallon, Missouri, is erroneous because it's a two-lane road.

(As we all know, "Highway 50" in O'Fallon, Missouri, is erroneous because it's no longer 50.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: codyg1985 on June 06, 2013, 06:33:47 PM
There is MO 364 in metro St. Louis from I-270 west to MO 94 in St. Charles that is known locally as the "Page Avenue Extension" or just "Page Ave."
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: national highway 1 on June 07, 2013, 03:33:23 AM
James Ruse Dr in North Parramatta
http://goo.gl/maps/lXIaw
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: amroad17 on June 07, 2013, 09:13:32 PM
John Glenn Blvd. for the expressway around Liverpool, NY.
Title: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: webny99 on July 20, 2018, 12:49:22 PM
Are there any freeways you're aware of that are named as a surface street, despite being a full freeway?
One example is MN 77, signed as Cedar Ave (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7593071,-93.2176232,3a,75y,3.11h,88.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8h5GN_5mUx7df5HMuvsmwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) despite being a full freeway for around ten miles (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8214165,-93.2372321,11.85z).

Not sure if this is a one-off case, or if this happens elsewhere. Never seen it done in my area.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: vdeane on July 20, 2018, 12:55:54 PM
FDR Drive in NYC comes to mind.  They also have the reverse with a surface street named "Rockaway Freeway".
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Rothman on July 20, 2018, 12:56:27 PM
Wonder if Geary Boulevard counts.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Eth on July 20, 2018, 12:57:55 PM
The only other one that comes to mind immediately is Wade Avenue (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8084023,-78.7188149,14.08z) from I-40 to I-440 in Raleigh.

A "Parkway" suffix probably doesn't count in and of itself, since I can think of plenty of freeways named that way, but I still submit Sugarloaf Pkwy (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9469662,-83.9588656,13.36z) in Lawrenceville, GA as an honorable mention as being an extension of a surface road of the same name.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: bassoon1986 on July 20, 2018, 12:59:05 PM
Skelly Dr in Tulsa (I-44) and
Kellogg Dr in Wichita (US 54/US 400)

may apply here. I don't know if they were so named that before they were made into freeways.


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Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: tribar on July 20, 2018, 01:01:11 PM
Lake Shore Drive

Cline Ave
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: ilpt4u on July 20, 2018, 01:04:04 PM
Poplar St Bridge across the Mississippi between STL and East STL

Also Page Ave/MO 364 west of I-270 in the STL area
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: jakeroot on July 20, 2018, 01:11:43 PM
In Vancouver,

- Knight St, from BC-91 to Marine Drive
- Golden Ears Way, from 192 St to Lougheed Hwy

Both are freeways relative to other Vancouver freeways, though are less impressive than an interstate.

In Denver,

- Peña Blvd (the airport freeway)
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: silverback1065 on July 20, 2018, 01:13:45 PM
US 31 in Carmel, IN was known also as Meridian Street, they recently turned it into an interstate standard road, but it is still technically Meridian Street, and has address numbers attached to it.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: BrianP on July 20, 2018, 01:16:55 PM
In Virginia is the highway within a highway: the Dulles Access Road and the Dulles Toll Road.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: TheStranger on July 20, 2018, 01:26:29 PM
Quote from: Eth on July 20, 2018, 12:57:55 PM
The only other one that comes to mind immediately is Wade Avenue (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8084023,-78.7188149,14.08z) from I-40 to I-440 in Raleigh.

Several other North Carolina examples come to mind, mostly in Greensboro (Bryan Boulevard, plus the rarely-used names of Painter, Preddy, Fordham, and O'Henry)

In San Diego, maps used to mark the southern part of the Route 15 freeway as Wabash Boulevard (after the surface street the freeway supplanted in the 1960s) though I don't think this was ever signed.

In Edmonton, the AB 216 beltway is Anthony Henday Drive, the AB 2/AB 14 east-west freeway that leads to West Edmonton Mall is Whitemud Drive, and the short freeway that passes near the Oilers' old arena (Northlands Coliseum/Rexall Place) is Wayne Gretzky Drive.

Storrow Drive in Boston

The freeway portion of US 6 in Denver is 6th Avenue
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: ilpt4u on July 20, 2018, 01:31:25 PM
LSD was noted above, by tribar

This might be a bit of a stretch, but parts of the Avenue of the Saints are full freeway
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: froggie on July 20, 2018, 02:54:21 PM
The past thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9366.0) we had on the subject.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: webny99 on July 20, 2018, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: froggie on July 20, 2018, 02:54:21 PM
The past thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9366.0) we had on the subject.

Wow. I'm 0-for-2 today.  :banghead:
And I had no idea how common this is... if I knew how many examples there were, I'd have been more likely to search for an existing topic.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: bing101 on July 20, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
CA-87 Guadalupe Parkway in San Jose is a Freeway.

Summerlin Parkway Las Vegas/Clark County area is a freeway.

Doyle Drive/Presidio Parkway in San Francisco is a Freeway going to the Golden Gate Bridge.

Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: hotdogPi on July 20, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
Quote from: bing101 on July 20, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
CA-87 Guadalupe Parkway in San Jose is a Freeway.

Summerlin Parkway Las Vegas/Clark County area is a freeway.

Doyle Drive/Presidio Parkway in San Francisco is a Freeway going to the Golden Gate Bridge.

So we should include all the parkways in New York?
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: ilpt4u on July 20, 2018, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 20, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
Quote from: bing101 on July 20, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
CA-87 Guadalupe Parkway in San Jose is a Freeway.

Summerlin Parkway Las Vegas/Clark County area is a freeway.

Doyle Drive/Presidio Parkway in San Francisco is a Freeway going to the Golden Gate Bridge.

So we should include all the parkways in New York?
And Kentucky?
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Roadsguy on July 20, 2018, 08:44:18 PM
Woodhaven Road (PA 63) in Philadelphia is one example. As far as I know, this is the full proper name of the freeway itself, in addition to the frontage roads (which were originally just a surface road of the same name).

The recently upgraded southernmost section of PA 28 in Pittsburgh is labeled on Google Maps as East Ohio Street, which was the name of the old four-lane road. I have no idea if this is still the official name, though if it were, it wouldn't mean much as there's nothing fronting it anymore.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Scott5114 on July 21, 2018, 03:34:36 AM
Airport Road (SH-152) in Oklahoma City.

If we're counting parkways, Lake Hefner Parkway (SH-74) also in Oklahoma City.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Beltway on July 21, 2018, 08:25:06 AM
Washington Boulevard in Arlington, VA
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: 1995hoo on July 21, 2018, 08:42:17 AM
Portions of Kenilworth Avenue in PG County, Maryland. Some people, including some radio traffic reporters, extend the "Kenilworth Avenue" designation southwest to cover part of what is now designated DC-295. I believe in the District that name technically refers to the service roads but became the common name for the highway because there was no other useful designation for it when it didn't have a number.

I don't know if this one counts because when I was a kid it was a rural two-lane road that has now been rebuilt into a six-lane freeway: Most of Sully Road north of I-66 in Fairfax County, except for a very small segment just north of the Interstate. This is VA-28, the infamous "I-366 with an 85-mph speed limit" of forum lore (for those not familiar, that's a longstanding joke here, and the speed limit is a universally-ignored 55 mph). I say "I don't know if this one counts" because it's not clear to me whether the OP wants freeway-type roads that were built as such but given names as if they were surface streets, or whether roads rebuilt into freeways count. Certainly "Sully Road" was a perfectly normal name for the two-lane road and it's also perfectly normal to leave a road's name in place when it's upgraded. Not too many people still call it by its name, though–nowadays "Route 28" is more common (with "route" pronounced either way, "rout" or "root," depending on who's speaking).


(Edited to fix a typo. My iPad's autocorrect stubbornly insists on capitalizing "road" most of the time regardless of how I'm using the word, and I usually don't notice it. In this case, it had changed what I typed to read "perfectly normal name for the two-lane Road."  :angry:)
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: froggie on July 21, 2018, 11:16:15 AM
QuoteSome people, including some radio traffic reporters, extend the "Kenilworth Avenue" designation southwest to cover part of what is now designated DC-295. I believe in the District that name technically refers to the service roads but became the common name for the highway because there was no other useful designation for it when it didn't have a number.

DDOT designates both the service roads and the mainline as Kenilworth Ave.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: 1995hoo on July 21, 2018, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: froggie on July 21, 2018, 11:16:15 AM
QuoteSome people, including some radio traffic reporters, extend the "Kenilworth Avenue" designation southwest to cover part of what is now designated DC-295. I believe in the District that name technically refers to the service roads but became the common name for the highway because there was no other useful designation for it when it didn't have a number.

DDOT designates both the service roads and the mainline as Kenilworth Ave.

Thanks. I read somewhere that it was just the service roads, but I worded it the way I did because I wasn't sure. I kind of figured the usage had been around for such a long time that there had to be some legitimate reason for it!
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: webny99 on July 21, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 20, 2018, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 20, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
Quote from: bing101 on July 20, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
CA-87 Guadalupe Parkway in San Jose is a Freeway.
Summerlin Parkway Las Vegas/Clark County area is a freeway.
Doyle Drive/Presidio Parkway in San Francisco is a Freeway going to the Golden Gate Bridge.
So we should include all the parkways in New York?
And Kentucky?

Parkways almost always have four lanes, a landscaped median, and some form of access control. Therefore, something called a "parkway" that is a full freeway doesn't exactly defy expectations - In fact, almost every parkway I can think of is either a freeway or expressway. Essentially, no, parkways are not what I'm looking for.

It would be much more interesting to discuss the reverse: surface streets/two-lane roads named as a "parkway". Thousand Islands Parkway comes to mind.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Eth on July 21, 2018, 12:28:23 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 21, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
It would be much more interesting to discuss the reverse: surface streets/two-lane roads named as a "parkway". Thousand Islands Parkway comes to mind.

Eh, not really. Those aren't even remotely unusual; I could likely produce dozens of examples in metro Atlanta alone. Maybe not two lanes, necessarily, but very much surface roads with little to no access control.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: 1995hoo on July 21, 2018, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: Eth on July 21, 2018, 12:28:23 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 21, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
It would be much more interesting to discuss the reverse: surface streets/two-lane roads named as a "parkway". Thousand Islands Parkway comes to mind.

Eh, not really. Those aren't even remotely unusual; I could likely produce dozens of examples in metro Atlanta alone. Maybe not two lanes, necessarily, but very much surface roads with little to no access control.

  • Here's an intersection of two of them. (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7769156,-84.4743801,271m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • Here's a two-lane one with street parking. (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7728781,-84.3980594,3a,75y,78.16h,73.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqfhF1wDfRVUCNMi538FeOQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
  • A pretty standard suburban road. (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6940622,-84.2618149,209m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • Office parks galore! (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9633021,-84.2200919,435m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • ...and on and on...

Indeed. (https://goo.gl/maps/j6tmn3Ax2Cx) (That's a Street View link to a residential street named "The Parkway.") I don't think there's anything special about the word "Parkway" except in places where that designation carries a restriction, such as the prohibition on commercial traffic in New York.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: webny99 on July 21, 2018, 01:03:49 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 21, 2018, 12:32:47 PMI don't think there's anything special about the word "Parkway"

I agree, in the sense that parkway doesn't generally refer to any one type of road - it can be used for both a surface boulevard and a full freeway in different circumstances.

Therefore, roads called "parkways" just aren't a good fit for this thread, because there's no existing expectation of what a "parkway" should look like that is defied if it is in fact a freeway. Similarly, no big shocker if a "parkway" is in fact a street in a residential neighborhood.
We're looking for roads that have names with a lot less ambiguity (street, avenue, drive, etc. - very distinctly non-freeway type of names) used to refer to full freeways.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: dcharlie on July 21, 2018, 01:06:41 PM
US 6 a.k.a. 6th Avenue Freeway from Golden to Denver CO.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: webny99 on July 21, 2018, 01:13:43 PM
Quote from: Eth on July 21, 2018, 12:28:23 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 21, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
It would be much more interesting to discuss the reverse: surface streets/two-lane roads named as a "parkway". Thousand Islands Parkway comes to mind.
Eh, not really. Those aren't even remotely unusual; I could likely produce dozens of examples in metro Atlanta alone. Maybe not two lanes, necessarily, but very much surface roads with little to no access control.

  • Here's an intersection of two of them. (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7769156,-84.4743801,271m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • Here's a two-lane one with street parking. (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7728781,-84.3980594,3a,75y,78.16h,73.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqfhF1wDfRVUCNMi538FeOQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
  • A pretty standard suburban road. (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6940622,-84.2618149,209m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • Office parks galore! (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9633021,-84.2200919,435m/data=!3m1!1e3)
  • ...and on and on...

By definition, a parkway is an open landscaped highway. I understand, as you've just shown, that basically any type of road can be named parkway regardless of whether it meets the above criteria.

In New York State, we have the state parkways, which are very distinctly "open landscaped highways" in most cases. Two lane roads or business parks are rarely named "parkway", though I'm sure someone will come up with a counterexample. Just goes to show the ambiguity of the word "parkway".
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: bing101 on July 21, 2018, 03:50:26 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoney_Trail (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoney_Trail)

In Canada in the Calgary area there the Stoney Trail and Deerfoot Trail but they are major freeways in the area.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyBPe1PUgKE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4r1E0hK0v0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujWoo66do-c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IExNmSKLvNY



Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: DandyDan on July 21, 2018, 07:50:16 PM
Omaha has West Dodge Road, which people mistakenly call Dodge Street.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Brooks on July 22, 2018, 01:34:01 PM
Sam Cooper Boulevard in Memphis (the uncompleted section of I-40).
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: jp the roadgeek on July 22, 2018, 03:40:15 PM
President St, a de facto southern extension of I-83, since the south end connection to I-95 was never built.  There's also portions of PA 12, the Warren St. bypass in Reading, that are full freeway.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Thing 342 on July 22, 2018, 04:44:34 PM
Off the top of my head:

- Sully Rd: a six-lane freeway portion of VA-28 near Dulles.
- Most of the freeways around Greensboro have some sort of surface street name:
     - Fordham Blvd: I-40 through town.
     - Preddy Blvd: Old I-85 / BL-85 through town.
     - Bryan Blvd: Part of I-73 west of I-840, runs as a solo freeway into town.
     - OHenry Blvd: US-29 through downtown.
     - Wendover Ave:  Has a decently-long freeway portion.
     - Painter Blvd: Refers to the entirety (IIRC) of the Greensboro Urban Loop (All of I-840, parts of I-73, 85, and 785)
     - Google seems to refer to the freeway section of US-220 between I-40 and I-73 as part of Freeman Mill Road, but I have no other evidence of this.
- Jarvis Klapman Blvd: A short freeway section of SC-12 in Columbia.
- Minnesota Dr and O'Malley Blvd in Anchorage, AK have a section of freeway that connects the airport to AK-1. (It may have a different name by now, haven't been up there in awhile)
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: sparker on July 23, 2018, 01:57:43 AM
Doyle Drive in San Francisco; the south approach to the Golden Gate Bridge and part of US 101.  Formerly a narrow multilane viaduct, now (since reconstruction) a wider multilane viaduct/tunnel.  West of the Marina Blvd. intersection it's limited access (that intersection used to be a semi-directional "Y" interchange with US 101 doing a TOTSO).
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: ET21 on July 23, 2018, 10:16:19 AM
Congress Parkway, which still holds some freeway designation from I-90/94 to Wells St east of I-290s ending
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: TheStranger on July 23, 2018, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: sparker on July 23, 2018, 01:57:43 AM
Doyle Drive in San Francisco; the south approach to the Golden Gate Bridge and part of US 101.  Formerly a narrow multilane viaduct, now (since reconstruction) a wider multilane viaduct/tunnel.  West of the Marina Blvd. intersection it's limited access (that intersection used to be a semi-directional "Y" interchange with US 101 doing a TOTSO).

Marina actually has a different new interchange with 101/Presidio Parkway/Doyle Drive, a partial diamond:

https://goo.gl/maps/3D6SiMFLFM12

First intersection is where 101 becomes Richardson Avenue, at Lyon Street. 

At one point the Marina Boulevard through lanes on the pre-2015 TOTSO configuration were proposed to be part of Interstate 480 (as was the entirety of Doyle Drive)!
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: bzakharin on July 23, 2018, 04:48:00 PM
The Roosevelt Expressway in Philadelphia (US 1 between I-76 and Broad Street) is popularly known as the Roosevelt Boulevard (the official designation it has north of there, where it really is a surface boulevard. Sometimes it's also called "Roosevelt Boulevard Extension". Admiral Wilson Boulevard in Camden (US 30 east of the I-676/US 30 split) is a Jersey freeway (no median breaks, but access to businesses on the same side of the road).
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: plain on July 23, 2018, 09:54:13 PM
Another Virginia example is Dominion Blvd (US 17) in Chesapeake, which is now a full freeway between VA 168 and Grassfield Pkwy.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: texaskdog on July 23, 2018, 10:06:18 PM
US 183 is Ed Bluestein and turns into Anderson Lane....while Anderson Lane exits and becomes a street and 183 become Research Blvd. 
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: TheStranger on July 24, 2018, 08:03:41 PM
forgot to mention another San Diego example: Kearny Villa Road in the Miramar MCAS airbase area, former I-15 and previously US 395.

The Friars Road arterial is essentially a freeway with no interruption between Frazee Road and River Run Drive in San Diego's Mission Valley.

Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: ilpt4u on July 24, 2018, 09:50:09 PM
Palatine Rd in North Suburban Chicago tries really, really, really hard to be a Freeway between I-294/Tri-State and the IL 53 Freeway, but it just doesn't quite get there, as it still has a few At Grades, despite having many Grade Separations AND Express/Local (or Mainline/Frontage, depending or perspective) Lane setups
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: pianocello on July 24, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Collins Rd (IA-100) in Cedar Rapids is a freeway west of I-380. I don't know how far west it's signed as Collins Rd, as until recently it only extended about a mile west of I-380.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: roadman65 on July 24, 2018, 11:56:23 PM
Padre Island Drive in Corpus Christi, Texas.
Though mentioned already, Kellogg Avenue in Wichita (as it was a surface street at one time).

Burlington Street in Hamilton, ON.

Queen Elizabeth Way between Toronto and Fort Erie in Ontario is a big freeway given a local street name.  You figure that it should be Queen Elizabeth Highway or even Freeway.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: TheStranger on July 25, 2018, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 24, 2018, 11:56:23 PM

Burlington Street in Hamilton, ON.


Interestingly, the freeway portion recently was renamed...to Nikola Tesla Boulevard, so yet another surface street type suffix.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2018, 08:55:37 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on July 25, 2018, 01:59:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 24, 2018, 11:56:23 PM

Burlington Street in Hamilton, ON.


Interestingly, the freeway portion recently was renamed...to Nikola Tesla Boulevard, so yet another surface street type suffix.
In the US, this would be a 3 digit interstate and the QEW as a 2 digit route.   This freeway acts as a spur of QEW and is like a child of it.

Yeah, but giving it another street name is odd.  I can see Burlington Street cause that was a surface road until it became elevated, but it should be Nikola Tesla Highway or even Expressway or a freeway type suffix. 

I am also surprised the MTO did not assign it a 400 series route number being a freeway.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: peterj920 on July 25, 2018, 10:59:35 PM
Sam Cooper Blvd in Memphis which was supposed to be I-40 until the portion near Overton Park was cancelled.

Wayzata Blvd in Minneapolis which is I-394.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: txstateends on July 26, 2018, 06:55:28 PM
Amarillo:
* I-27 / US 60 / US 87 south of I-40 is still officially Canyon Drive (but it's been an interstate for decades now; most locals call it "the E-way", as in Canyon Expressway, one candidate that should be considered if the city ever gets around to renaming it)
* US 87 / US 287, the freeway part north of downtown is still officially Dumas Drive (which is as dumb and outdated as the Canyon Drive name IMO)
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: roadman65 on July 26, 2018, 06:57:29 PM
Butler Blvd. in Jacksonville, FL is mostly a freeway.  In fact only the small section from US 1 to I-95 is only a street.  East of I-95 to its terminus at FL A1A is all freeway now.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Eth on July 26, 2018, 07:18:16 PM
Most of Peachtree Industrial Blvd northeast of Atlanta is a surface road, but about 4 miles of it was upgraded to a freeway in the mid-1990s and the name wasn't changed.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: apeman33 on July 26, 2018, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on July 20, 2018, 12:59:05 PM
Skelly Dr in Tulsa (I-44) and
Kellogg Dr in Wichita (US 54/US 400)

may apply here. I don't know if they were so named that before they were made into freeways.


iPhone

Kellogg was, yes, but I think it's officially Kellogg Ave. (JN? Richie?). Kellogg Drive is the name of the frontage roads that exist now.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 27, 2018, 09:30:53 PM
Research Park Boulevard here in Huntsville, AL probably qualifies.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: tdindy88 on July 27, 2018, 09:59:03 PM
Keystone Parkway in Carmel from north of 96th Street to U.S. 31 may not be the most freeway-kind of freeway but it is freeflowing with interchanges. The roadway became a "freeway" after losing its numerical designation (Indiana 431) when the state decommissioned the highway.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: roadman65 on July 27, 2018, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: apeman33 on July 26, 2018, 09:45:03 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on July 20, 2018, 12:59:05 PM
Skelly Dr in Tulsa (I-44) and
Kellogg Dr in Wichita (US 54/US 400)

may apply here. I don’t know if they were so named that before they were made into freeways.


iPhone

Kellogg was, yes, but I think it's officially Kellogg Ave. (JN? Richie?). Kellogg Drive is the name of the frontage roads that exist now.
The signs on I-235 refer to it as an Avenue.  The signs on I-135 call it just plain Kellogg.  The reason for the signs on I-135 being that way is cause most streets in Wichita are called by name and no suffix.  My friend lives on Pawnee Street but its called Pawnee and even when I mail a letter to him I just use the Pawnee name just as the exit guide on I-135 reads.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: epzik8 on April 15, 2024, 09:45:15 AM
I-395 in Baltimore bears the honorofic, but unofficial, name of Cal Ripken Way.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: mgk920 on April 15, 2024, 11:58:14 AM
Two that quickly come to my mind in Wisconsin, both disconnected from any other systems, are Campus Dr in Madison and the Mason St Fox River Bridge in Green Bay.

Also Miller Park Way(?) (WI 175 or WI 341) in Milwaukee.

Mike
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: SEWIGuy on April 15, 2024, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on April 15, 2024, 11:58:14 AMTwo that quickly come to my mind in Wisconsin, both disconnected from any other systems, are Campus Dr in Madison and the Mason St Fox River Bridge in Green Bay.

Also Miller Park Way(?) (WI 175 or WI 341) in Milwaukee.

Mike

I'm not sure I would call Campus Drive or Mason Street "freeways." They are mostly surface streets with a short stretch of freeway like features. Campus Drive is less than a mile, and that stretch of Mason is a hair over a mile.

Lake Parkway in Milwaukee is another one in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: webny99 on April 15, 2024, 03:18:16 PM
In the southern Twin Cities metro, the entirety of the MN 77 freeway is also called Cedar Ave. And unlike some of the other examples, it's unambiguously a freeway for 10+ miles.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on April 15, 2024, 03:37:00 PM
Shadeland Ave (Indianapolis)
Keystone Parkway (Carmel)
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 15, 2024, 03:41:21 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 15, 2024, 03:18:16 PMIn the southern Twin Cities metro, the entirety of the MN 77 freeway is also called Cedar Ave. And unlike some of the other examples, it's unambiguously a freeway for 10+ miles.

That was the example you yourself started the thread with.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: TheStranger on April 15, 2024, 03:46:38 PM
The most amusing one near me is one that really shouldn't count, but CalTrans bothered to put in the "end freeway" and "begin freeway" signs for it:

Skyline Boulevard/Route 35 between Westmoor Avenue in Daly City, and Hickey Boulevard in Pacifica.

Exactly one exit (a full-system interchange between the Route 1 freeway and Skyline with three cloverleaf ramps and one flyover from 1 south to 35 south).
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: webny99 on April 15, 2024, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 15, 2024, 03:41:21 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 15, 2024, 03:18:16 PMIn the southern Twin Cities metro, the entirety of the MN 77 freeway is also called Cedar Ave. And unlike some of the other examples, it's unambiguously a freeway for 10+ miles.

That was the example you yourself started the thread with.  :bigass:

Oh, so it is... LOL!  :-D    I just clicked on "new" posts and saw that it had been bumped from 2018. That makes me feel old!
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: steviep24 on April 16, 2024, 07:51:20 PM
In Rochester, NY the freeway portion of NY104 from Veterans Memorial Bridge to NY590 is often called the Keeler St Expressway by radio traffic reporters. While Keeler St does cross over NY104 it has no connection with it.

Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: roadman65 on April 16, 2024, 08:57:35 PM
I'm sure it's been mentioned, but Kenilworth Avenue in Washington, DC is not a street but a full freeway. I figure if it wasn't I'd mention it.

Kenilworth Ave. is part of DC Route 295.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: cwf1701 on April 16, 2024, 10:06:41 PM
In Macomb County, I-696 is sometimes referred to by the road it was built over, 11 Mile Rd.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Evan_Th on April 17, 2024, 12:56:06 PM
The old Business 40 (current US 421) in Winston-Salem, NC, is called Salem Parkway.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on April 17, 2024, 02:04:22 PM
I-564 is called Admiral Taussig Blvd, the road it was built on top of (formerly VA 170), although a couple of non-freeway pieces of Taussig Blvd still exist, namely VA 337 between Hampton Blvd and I-564, and a short back street between US 460 and VA 165.

VA 27 is a full freeway for its entire length and is named Washington Blvd.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: kennyshark64 on April 17, 2024, 10:48:03 PM
It's fairly short, but there's Allen Road in Toronto (4.5 miles).  It is along the route of the once-proposed (but never built) Spadina Expressway, which was cancelled in 1971.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: Dirt Roads on April 18, 2024, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: Evan_Th on April 17, 2024, 12:56:06 PMThe old Business 40 (current US 421) in Winston-Salem, NC, is called Salem Parkway.

And this street name is most unusual, having been selected in a 2016 contest by NCDOT District 9 requesting suggestions for renaming the freeway.  Thirteen (13) supposedly independent individuals suggested the name "Salem Parkway", and the runner-up name was "Piedmont Corridor".  The section of the former "Green 40" was closed down for reconstruction starting in late 2018, and the  name change wasn't official until after the freeway reopened on February 2, 2020.
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: bzakharin on April 19, 2024, 02:52:40 PM
I don't know if it's different elsewhere, but in this neck of the woods a parkway is just as likely to be a freeway as not. Of course, in New York state "parkway" also means "no trucks", so there is a difference between freeway parkways and other freeways, but a large chunk of the Garden State Parkway allows trucks.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: kiwislark on April 20, 2024, 07:59:00 AM
Some examples from New Zealand:

George Bolt Memorial Drive (State Highway 20A) - Auckland

https://maps.app.goo.gl/W3SmuQAefgD8TM5a6

Tamatea Arikinui Drive (State Highway 2) - Tauranga

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5wRBWZpfUTbtBhdD7

Takitimu Drive (State Highway 29/State Highway 2) - Tauranga

https://maps.app.goo.gl/FbRXD2FqX3RgBeQx6

Maunganui Road (State Highway 2) - Tauranga

https://maps.app.goo.gl/LvhV8q8LSgJEZn5s8

Mangaharakeke Drive (State Highway 1C) - Hamilton

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZuhJabY2wAsbhyMS8

Hutt Road (State Highway 2) - Wellington

https://maps.app.goo.gl/qPv41w6v3ZZzTX2r8

Whakatu Drive/Richmond Deviation (State Highway 6) - Nelson

https://maps.app.goo.gl/V2kL4rg4PuPF1saj9

Russley Road/Johns Road (State Highway 1) - Christchurch

https://maps.app.goo.gl/LeikiV6vS3S4iByFA

Tunnel Road (State Highway 74) - Christchurch

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9wNW67dUfxRfg2s16
Title: Re: Freeways Named as Surface Streets
Post by: TheStranger on April 21, 2024, 01:53:53 AM
California's usage of Parkway can be pretty variable too:

Arroyo Seco Parkway (former US 66, now Route 110) fits the New York definition - which makes sense, given its 1943 origins.  Limited-access, trucks not allowed.

Guadalupe Parkway in San Jose (Route 87) is a freeway that is pretty much Interstate-standard and allows trucks, and had SPUIs added to it in the last decade and a half.

Richmond Parkway (approximate corridor of planned Route 93, but not a state route) is a expressway with some intersections and interchanges.

Los Patrones Parkway in Orange County is very much "Yeah, this is a Route 241 full freeway extension, but let's not say it is", kinda like how Presidio Parkway in San Francisco is an 2010s Interstate-standard upgrade of the old US 101 Doyle Drive freeway, but with excessively slow speed limits near the tunnel segments.

Then we have stuff that is straight up surface road (Guadalupe Canyon Parkway in Brisbane/Daly City, Paseo Padre Parkway in Fremont)
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: US20IL64 on April 28, 2024, 01:08:36 AM
I-55 in St. Louis area crosses the Mississippi River on the "Poplar St. Bridge". I-70 now has its own bridge.

Opps I see already mentioned in another thread.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on April 29, 2024, 08:28:09 AM
Why did this thread get bumped when there is an identical thread on the first page?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23290.50
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: OCGuy81 on April 29, 2024, 10:00:58 AM
In the Twin Cities, is I-394 referred to as Wayzata Blvd anymore?

Another one that comes to mind is WI-145 in the Milwaukee area referred to as Fond du Lac Ave.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Big John on April 29, 2024, 10:29:21 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 29, 2024, 10:00:58 AMIn the Twin Cities, is I-394 referred to as Wayzata Blvd anymore?

Another one that comes to mind is WI-145 in the Milwaukee area referred to as Fond du Lac Ave.
WI 145 is Fond du Lac Ave in the non-freeway portion. For the freeway portion, it is called Fond du Lac freeway and it runs parallel to Fond du Lac Ave.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Rothman on April 29, 2024, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 29, 2024, 08:28:09 AMWhy did this thread get bumped when there is an identical thread on the first page?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23290.50

Should be merged.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Techknow on May 05, 2024, 09:07:15 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on April 21, 2024, 01:53:53 AMCalifornia's usage of Parkway can be pretty variable too:

Arroyo Seco Parkway (former US 66, now Route 110) fits the New York definition - which makes sense, given its 1943 origins.  Limited-access, trucks not allowed.

Guadalupe Parkway in San Jose (Route 87) is a freeway that is pretty much Interstate-standard and allows trucks, and had SPUIs added to it in the last decade and a half.

Richmond Parkway (approximate corridor of planned Route 93, but not a state route) is a expressway with some intersections and interchanges.

Los Patrones Parkway in Orange County is very much "Yeah, this is a Route 241 full freeway extension, but let's not say it is", kinda like how Presidio Parkway in San Francisco is an 2010s Interstate-standard upgrade of the old US 101 Doyle Drive freeway, but with excessively slow speed limits near the tunnel segments.

Then we have stuff that is straight up surface road (Guadalupe Canyon Parkway in Brisbane/Daly City, Paseo Padre Parkway in Fremont)
Also Westside Parkway in Bakersfield, which is full freeway before and after it became a part of CA Route 58!

SF has brought up but it hasn't been mentioned San Jose Avenue becomes an expressway for one mile from I-280 to Randall St with 4 lanes plus bike lane, a 45 MPH limit, and one at-grade intersection northbound. This is the remnant of the Mission Freeway

CA 152 is signed as Ave 23 in Madera county yet it is a 4-lane expressway, the name conforming to the county's horizontial grid.
Title: Re: Freeways / Expressways given ordinary street names
Post by: Flint1979 on May 05, 2024, 09:46:23 AM
Quote from: cwf1701 on April 16, 2024, 10:06:41 PMIn Macomb County, I-696 is sometimes referred to by the road it was built over, 11 Mile Rd.
I-696 is known as the Ruether Freeway. 11 Mile is the service drive.