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Title: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on January 22, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
Here are some photos of newer Utah signs I've taken within the last month, mostly from Davis County.

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Only sign in the state that has the yellow left exit tab as provisioned in the 2009 MUTCD.

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Brand new state highway shields. Finally, a newer variation that looks good in three-digit width. In the last ten years Utah's been experimenting with several variations of the beehive shield, and unfortunately most are just plain ugly. Also, Utah began placing the year of installation on signs in 2010, in the lower left corner of each sign, much like Wyoming. What is the benefit of doing so?

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The "N-BND RAMP" sign is yellow on black... I don't think I've ever seen this before.

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The older UDOT standard of using three-digit U.S. shields on BGSs has reappeared in this instance.

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And, for good measure, I include the eastern terminus of Utah's newest freeway, Southern Parkway in St. George, opened in 2009 (the picture you see is a portion of roadway that opened this last November). When I went on this road in December, I encountered perhaps ten cars and just as many bicyclists on the seven-mile stretch (and that's to and back). This road is more of a futureproofing type of thing, as right now the only thing this road connects to is the new municipal airport (granted, the airport hadn't opened when I was there in December). There is not an SR-7 shield anywhere on the road, though it is signed as such on BGSs at I-15.


Well, there you have it. A sampling of signage in the Beehive State.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 23, 2011, 01:11:17 AM
I cannot guarantee that I could parse "N-BND" in enough time to make an accurate decision about it.  Couldn't they just call it "NORTH"?

the three-hives look surprisingly decent.  can you get us a close-up of a shield or two for the gallery?  I had never noticed any when I was last in Utah.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on January 23, 2011, 01:44:08 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 23, 2011, 01:11:17 AM
the three-hives look surprisingly decent.  can you get us a close-up of a shield or two for the gallery?  I had never noticed any when I was last in Utah.

I know, it's a surprise. I've actually been planning for a while to get close-up photos of all the various styles of shields that are present now (from that '61 spec SR-224 shield to the new styles that have shown up). I'll send you an email when I have those.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Ian on January 23, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 23, 2011, 01:11:17 AM
I cannot guarantee that I could parse "N-BND" in enough time to make an accurate decision about it.  Couldn't they just call it "NORTH"?

What is it supposed to represent? Does I-15 have ramp meters or something?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on January 23, 2011, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on January 23, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 23, 2011, 01:11:17 AM
I cannot guarantee that I could parse "N-BND" in enough time to make an accurate decision about it.  Couldn't they just call it "NORTH"?

What is it supposed to represent? Does I-15 have ramp meters or something?

Oh yeah. The first ramp meters were installed on I-15 in the early '90s.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on February 07, 2011, 07:15:20 PM
Here's some more - I took advantage of some good lighting, finally:

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Utah switched over to this outline style for U.S. highways on BGSs. I don't think it looks bad, but why is it so small compared to the I-84 shield?

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Here's the only road in the state you'll find Clearview on, Legacy Parkway. This road opened 2008 and is a true example of how environmentalists can alter the way a road is constructed. I'm not against the environment or anything, but some of the things done were unnecessary. However, I do like that there's a restriction on trucks and billboards on the freeway.

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More Clearview. It looks good, in my opinion.

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Here's a contractor muck-up. Using a two-digit spec shield that Utah hasn't used in ten years to make it three-digit width, and huge numerals. Utah needs to place more control on its contractors. Seriously.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 07, 2011, 08:13:29 PM
I was so sorely disappointed by the Legacy Parkway.  I had thought "wow, here's some obscure route that I'd never noticed before on my maps - this must date back to the 40s, after all it's called a Parkway... right???  and with no route number, this must be some derelict old city freeway, probably filled with white guide signs and cutouts" WRONG!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on February 10, 2011, 10:03:52 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 07, 2011, 08:13:29 PM
I was so sorely disappointed by the Legacy Parkway.  I had thought "wow, here's some obscure route that I'd never noticed before on my maps - this must date back to the 40s, after all it's called a Parkway... right???  and with no route number, this must be some derelict old city freeway, probably filled with white guide signs and cutouts" WRONG!

Well, it is Salt Lake... you'd be hard-pressed to find anything before 1985 here. Either an old sign is taken down or covered over by a newer sign. In the case of old road alignments in the area, those have been blocked off to traffic. Take, for example, old US-40 just west of Summit Park (right along the Summit/Salt Lake County line), and old US-30S east of Ogden, which has some spectacular looking old bridges and a tunnel.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 11, 2011, 01:43:42 AM
Quote from: CL on February 10, 2011, 10:03:52 PM

Well, it is Salt Lake... you'd be hard-pressed to find anything before 1985 here. Either an old sign is taken down or covered over by a newer sign. In the case of old road alignments in the area, those have been blocked off to traffic. Take, for example, old US-40 just west of Summit Park (right along the Summit/Salt Lake County line), and old US-30S east of Ogden, which has some spectacular looking old bridges and a tunnel.

I had no idea such a 30S alignment existed! 

I do know you can still drive old US-40 from exit 48 off I-80 all the way to Wendover.  So it looks like the whole 'block the road off' thing is just a Salt Lake City area thing?  Or maybe the railroad needs the access for maintenance trucks, and that's why 40 is open.  But then again there's plenty of old US 6/50, 91, etc, well out in the sticks.  Even 30S going in to Idaho, complete with 1960s Idaho welcome sign!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on February 11, 2011, 11:46:20 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 11, 2011, 01:43:42 AM

I had no idea such a 30S alignment existed! 


Don't quote me on that, as I'm not 100% sure if it's the old road alignment or perhaps an old railroad (though I'm leaning toward the former). The tunnel and bridges certainly look old enough to be from the 1920s or '30s though.

And as for the closing off of road alignments, certainly that's just a Salt Lake thing (another example is an abandoned concrete alignment of the Lincoln Highway between Tooele and Salt Lake City north of SR-201), with the exception of old US-40 west of the airport being used as a frontage road. But yeah, outside the city you can easily access old alignments, when they haven't been paved over by freeway.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: NE2 on February 12, 2011, 07:23:25 AM
Where is this supposed old US-30S alignment? The only tunnel I see east of Ogden is a rail tunnel north of I-84, between exits 87 and 92.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on February 12, 2011, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: NE2 on February 12, 2011, 07:23:25 AM
Where is this supposed old US-30S alignment? The only tunnel I see east of Ogden is a rail tunnel north of I-84, between exits 87 and 92.

That must be it. :/ I thought that wasn't a railroad as there was another visible railroad from the freeway parallel to it. Is it possible that a railroad was built over the old road alignment?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: NE2 on February 12, 2011, 02:51:31 PM
The tunnel alignment was built in 1926 as a second main track: http://utahrails.net/articles/weber-echo.php http://utahrails.net/up/up-in-ut-1900-1996.php
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 01, 2011, 10:31:59 PM
Finally, some historical photos I got a hold of:

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A whole sign devoted to explaining the basic function of a freeway? Wow! (This sign was removed by 1976, as seen here (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ut/u-269/w15.jpg))

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Neither US-50 nor US-91 reach Spanish Fork anymore, though the latter received a much worse fate.

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(Images all used by permission, Utah State Historical Society, all rights reserved.)

This one's my favorite. Jake, if you see this, I'll email you a copy of this photo for the shield gallery once I get a digitized scan of it.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 01, 2011, 10:35:15 PM
would love to see high-resolution photos of all three; especially the first one with the freeway warning on the left and the four shields on the right!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 01, 2011, 11:06:26 PM
The thing is that low-resolution photocopies (which have several small photos to an 8.5" x 11" page) cost 10 cents per page, whereas high-resolution scans cost 10 dollars per page. Asinine, I know, but that's the State Archives for you.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 01, 2011, 11:11:41 PM
ugh.  well, let's find a picture that we're willing to spend 10 dollars for. 

a few years ago I shelled out $12 for this Oregon US 28 shield photo:

www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=OR19260281&search=28
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 01, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
I already bought two pages (including that one with the US-50 Alternate photo, plus I'm almost positive one there is an image with this spec (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=UT19611931) of shield in it). I have 143 more boxes of photos to go (a lot of the photos are irrelevant and it takes me about twenty or thirty minutes to get through one box), so we shall see. The people at the State Archives will hate me for it, but I'm going through every single box.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 01, 2011, 11:24:31 PM
would be cool to find an in-the-wild photo of the oval-beehive-opening '61 spec Utah shield.

the signal-to-noise ratio of state archives tends to be pretty bad.  I remember looking through thousands of photos, mainly aerials, at the Caltrans library, just to find some surface-level shots with freeway black guide signs in them.  the occasional stand-alone shield was a complete bonus!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: J N Winkler on March 01, 2011, 11:41:52 PM
Quote from: CL on March 01, 2011, 11:06:26 PMThe thing is that low-resolution photocopies (which have several small photos to an 8.5" x 11" page) cost 10 cents per page, whereas high-resolution scans cost 10 dollars per page. Asinine, I know, but that's the State Archives for you.

Will they allow you to take your digital camera in and take your own copies?  Pretty much every archives I have worked with allows it (with the lone exception of the Archivo General de la Administración), though flash is always a no-no and it can sometimes be a little tricky to avoid shadows, specular glare, and motion blur with the ambient lighting provided.

Example of a digital camera copy (resampled) of an archival photo (from file MT 39/191 in the UK National Archives, in this case):

http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=File:Parabolic-arch-concrete-bridge-carrying-alresford-road-over-winchester-bypass.jpg
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 01, 2011, 11:48:22 PM
Yes, actually, I forgot about this! I came in for the first time today and they actually told me this was permissible. It's free too. Still not to the quality of a scan, but hopefully I can make it work out. My biggest worries are, as you said, the side effects of taking a photo of a photo. Also, since the pictures usually measure three or four inches on one side, I may have issues with the camera focusing on such a small image.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 02, 2011, 12:07:24 AM
the digital camera approach is doable.  as one example, I took this photo of maybe a 3x5 inch crop of an 8x6 photo:

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see here for the highest possible resolution.  not bad.

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just gotta remember to crank up the ISO to compensate for low ambient lighting, and position yourself in such a way to minimize the glare from the direct light sources.  

And take about four or five shots of each photo so you are much more likely to get one that isn't blurry.  I used the Nikon 18-200 VR lens at about 75mm to get my photos at the Caltrans library.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: J N Winkler on March 02, 2011, 11:10:54 AM
I bought my first digital camera (a Kodak LS443 with 4 MP, 3:2 image aspect ratio) in 2003 specifically to take pictures of documents in archives.  When the lens failed on that first camera in 2007, I upgraded (Canon PowerShot A640 with 10 MP, 4:3 image aspect ratio).  In my experience, a digital point-and-shoot camera is adequate for records office work.  With the exception of low lighting conditions, where the much higher purchase price presumably buys more aggressive noise reduction at ISOs of 800 and higher, I would expect a digital SLR to be overspecified for the job.

In regard to resolution, I have found that a 10-MP camera has enough resolution to produce usable photos of 11" x 17" construction plan sheets, provided that the entirety of the plan sheet is in or close to the plane of focus of the camera.  When the resolution is that high, it matters less what the image aspect ratio is.  With the older digital camera I was working with a much lower pixel count, so I deliberately passed over 4:3 cameras and went for a 3:2 camera because I expected to be working primarily with British office foolscap in the UK National Archives (office foolscap has not been used in Britain in close to thirty years, but is similar to American 8 1/2" x 14" legal size).  I understand that the National Archives has now invested in digital scanners and established a service whereby you can scan your own document, the Archives keeps a copy of the scan, and you get access to your scan via email or Web.  For US state archives and the National Archives and Records Administration, I think you still have to bring your own equipment.  NARA has historically allowed not just digital cameras, but also portable scanners.  The Caltrans library (whose photo collections Jake explored) does not allow scanners and charges $10 per copy of an 8" x 10" print done by an outside contractor, but as Jake found, they don't object to digital camera copies taken without flash.

It is useful to have a digital camera which is lightweight and relatively easy to maneuver--aside from the other considerations mentioned, such as lighting and resolution, you need to be able to get as much of a flat original as possible within the plane of focus.  A high frame rate is helpful for taking pictures of multiple documents in rapid succession, but it still pays to use the LCD screen to check focus for each shot (as a general rule of thumb, the more of the original that is in the plane of focus, the higher the count of focusing rectangles in the LCD screen).  For taking pictures of photos, the LCD screen is also essential for checking that there is no specular glare.

11" x 17"/A3 is pretty much the size limit for a single-frame picture without acrobatics.  34" x 22"/A1 is doable but not without holding the camera above shoulder level or standing on chairs.  When the original is larger than 8 1/2" x 11"/A4, it is prudent to take at least one image of the entire surface of the original, and then move in closer for detail shots.  The standard program setting will work for entire-surface shots of large originals, but for smaller areas (including entire surfaces of ordinary-sized originals), the macro function will be necessary.  Recently I took a complete camera copy of the first construction plan for signing on the Kansas Turnpike (which was shown to me as a set of 11" x 17" mirror-image whiteprints), and came away with 358 shots, of which 41 were whole-sheet shots of the original (which had 38 sheets for signing for the signing contract proper plus multiple sheets of typical sections which were presumably included on a "for information only" basis), with the remainder being detail shots.

As a general rule, the macro function will be necessary for ordinary-sized pieces of paper and anything smaller (including, say, 4" x 6" photos).  While there will be some variation from camera to camera, with the macro function on my PowerShot I have found that moving to a normal angle of view (corresponding to 50 mm focal length for a 35-mm camera) will get rid of pincushion or barrel distortion, but won't allow an object of interest to subtend a larger solid angle (and thus take up more pixels in the frame) compared to what can be achieved by moving in closer and using mild wide-angle (corresponding to 35 mm focal length for a 35-mm camera).

For avoiding specular glare on glossy originals, it is helpful to identify the point sources of light in the environment and to try to move the original so that it is equidistant between the two nearest point sources.  This is essentially how copy stands are made for professional duplicating work--two light sources are positioned on either side of the original and set to shine on it obliquely so that it is evenly illuminated but reflections off the surface are not visible through the camera lens.

For standard office strip lighting, I have found that ISO 400 is usually adequate.  I will go up to ISO 800 for exceptionally poor lighting situations, but I generally prefer not to do it because image graininess is much greater at that ISO with my PowerShot.  Archives which rely heavily on natural lighting (through picture windows etc.) can present special problems--you might be able to go as low as ISO 100 during the day and then have to jack up to ISO 800 when the sun sets (as it will during office hours in winter, at a sufficiently high latitude) or cumulonimbus clouds roll in.

It also pays to mind your auto white balance, and set the camera for tungsten if you are working with a blue tabletop or, e.g., one of your light sources is ordinary incandescent while the other is a compact fluorescent.  A consistent yellow cast won't ruin pictures of bitonal or grayscale originals but can get annoying.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 02, 2011, 08:23:59 PM
Well, alright. I shall try. I don't think my camera even has an adjustable ISO though, but it has some rudimentary light and "indoor" settings so I'll play with that. I greatly appreciate your advice... I'll report back once I come back from my next visit (next week? their hours are terrible so that's doubtful).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: hbelkins on March 06, 2011, 12:43:12 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 01, 2011, 11:41:52 PM
Will they allow you to take your digital camera in and take your own copies? 

Or a laptop with a USB-powered or FireWire-powered flatbed scanner?

I have a small USB-powered flatbed. It's only 1.1 so it's a bit slow, but it works and it's very thin and easily slips into a backpack for scanning anything 8.5 x 11 or smaller.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Interstate Trav on March 07, 2011, 03:34:15 AM
Does anyone have or know where there are more historic highway photos from Utah.  Or know what the control city for US 91 south was from Salt Lake City, or what it was originally for I-15 south.  I had read that Los Angeles was mentioned on I-15 originally.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 07, 2011, 10:10:12 PM
Funny you should ask...

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southbound I-15 at US-40A/US-50A, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5507633371/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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northbound I-15 at I-80, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5508231874/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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northbound I-15 at 5300 South, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5508231158/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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northbound I-15 at I-80, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5507632115/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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I-15 approaching SR-15, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5508225676/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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northbound US-89/US-91/westbound US-50A at I-15 in Lehi, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5507624329/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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US-30S at SR-158, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5507611355/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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northbound I-15/US-91 at US-89 in Farmington (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5508196552/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

All courtesy of the Utah State Historical society, all rights reserved, used with permission.

Gotta hand it to you guys, that photo of a photo trick worked perfectly! I'm pretty sure I get better quality and much better resolution taking a picture than paying $10 for a scan! And this is all from two out of 145 boxes, so there is much, much more to come.

You can view the rest of the photos I have uploaded so far on Flickr. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/collections/72157626220405502/)

As for the Los Angeles thing, that's certainly possible. San Francisco was signed from Echo as a control city, thirteen hours away from there.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Interstate Trav on March 09, 2011, 01:55:58 PM
Thank you for posting those, really cool pictures. 
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: national highway 1 on March 12, 2011, 05:17:13 PM
Hope these make it onto the Shield Gallery.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 30, 2011, 12:40:59 AM
It's been a good day today:

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westbound I-215 past Redwood Rd, 1976 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5572857797/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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westbound I-215 at I-15, 1976 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5572858631/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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eastbound I-215 toward State St, 1976 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5573445158/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

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I-15 through North Salt Lake, 1970s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5572854035/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Well shoot, found a state-name I-215 shield. No big deal.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 30, 2011, 12:45:26 AM
big deal for me!  first state named 215 I'd ever seen.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 30, 2011, 12:47:52 AM
Haha no, it really is a big deal! That was just sarcasm. It's the first state name 215 I've ever seen too. Unfortunately, it's not three-digit width... but still. Definitely a huge deal.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 30, 2011, 01:25:55 AM
Quote from: CL on March 30, 2011, 12:47:52 AM
Haha no, it really is a big deal! That was just sarcasm. It's the first state name 215 I've ever seen too. Unfortunately, it's not three-digit width... but still. Definitely a huge deal.

not unfortunate at all.  it is 1957 specification, as opposed to 1961.  I wouldn't be surprised if Utah was a bit lackadaisical in adopting the wider formats made available by the 1961 spec, simply because they had only one three-digit route, and even that is (for the purposes of sign layout) two-and-a-half digits.

even nowadays a lot of (all of?) the 215 shields are narrow.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Alex on March 30, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
Lots of good stuff on your Flickr, awesome to relive classic button copy sign days and see all of those classic-state name shields for Interstate 15. Thanks for your efforts!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 30, 2011, 06:58:29 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 30, 2011, 01:25:55 AM
even nowadays a lot of (all of?) the 215 shields are narrow.

Actually, three-digit width 215 shields have been used in the state exclusively since the late 1990s (sporadically from 1987). However, a lot of the old (as in 1980s, early '90s) two-digit shields stand that you're talking about.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 30, 2011, 07:18:50 PM
Quote from: Alex on March 30, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
Lots of good stuff on your Flickr, awesome to relive classic button copy sign days and see all of those classic-state name shields for Interstate 15. Thanks for your efforts!

It's great to see, isn't it! It's like uncovering something long-lost each time I see a good picture in the boxes at the State Archives.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on March 30, 2011, 08:27:27 PM
CL, I know it might be too great of a thing to ask, but would you be able to find a picture of the US-89/89A junction, pre-1995 (when the UT-11 signs went up) in Kanab?  I've always wondered how US-89A (or US-89 Alt., as it's often called) was signed.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 30, 2011, 08:53:13 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on March 30, 2011, 08:27:27 PM
CL, I know it might be too great of a thing to ask, but would you be able to find a picture of the US-89/89A junction, pre-1995 (when the UT-11 signs went up) in Kanab?  I've always wondered how US-89A (or US-89 Alt., as it's often called) was signed.

Oh of course, I've been looking for that too. I've been taking pictures of every shield/BGS I can find, but most of the photos are from northern Utah. I have 130 more boxes to look through, so there's a pretty good chance I'll find something with a US-89 Alternate shield... well, let's hope.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on April 05, 2011, 10:18:19 PM
I've run into quite a roadblock at the State Archives. It seems as if all the photos past the fifteenth box are undeveloped negatives! There are a select few developed photos, but they're usually of some commissioner or some vague mountain. With that said, here is the only relevant developed photo I found today from boxes 17, 18, 19, 50, and 51 (I thought maybe skipping to 50 would get me real photos again, but to no avail). With that said:

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Redwood Rd at I-215 in North Salt Lake, late 1970s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5594144084/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

The proof I've been looking for that Utah did in fact post three-digit width shields in the beginning. I'm estimating the date of this photo to be the late 1970s, so the age of the state-named shield in Utah had another five or ten to go from then.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on April 11, 2011, 09:03:04 PM
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State St at Winchester St, 1979 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5611792622/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Another state name I-215 shield, this time newer spec. Yup, we're getting closer to the demise of state name shields. This photo is either in the very late 1970s or early 1980s. This photo is a negative that I took a picture of on a light-table and then inverted the colors on Paint.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on April 18, 2011, 10:34:51 PM
Moving on...

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northbound I-15 at 9000 South, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5632928193/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

I think the general consensus used to be that I-415 (that odd designation for the southeastern quadrant of present-day I-215) was never signed. Well, here's proof that it actually was signed. The odd thing is the junction this signage refers to wasn't open at that time... and wouldn't open for another ten or so years. Why would the Highway Department think of signing an non-constructed interchange? Also, why would they sign a junction three miles away?

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500 South at 300 West, late 1960s (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5633509396/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Here's an actual photo of the scan I posted earlier. If you go on the AlpsRoads page for SR-269 (last photo on the page) (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ut/u-269/), you'll see that by 1976, that freeway entrance sign was removed.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on April 20, 2011, 11:22:37 PM
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southbound I-15 at 1000 North, September 1969 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5639646754/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

US-40 would stick around for another six years before being truncated from the city. Before that happened though, Utah chose to sign doomed U.S. routes quite well along with interstates.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on May 26, 2011, 11:05:33 PM
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westbound I-80 at I-15, 1971 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5763730910/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

I-80 as it begins its brief sharing of pavement with I-15 in Salt Lake.

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westbound I-80 at Foothill Drive, 1971 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5763178345/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

First time I've ever seen routes as text on a bonafide BGS in Utah. As a real sign of progress, no overhead gantry exists here today - just ground-mounted signage for the Foothill Drive (old US-40) exit.

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Interstate 80 in the Great Salt Lake Desert, 1971 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5763177685/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Don't know why, but I really like this photo. It would be another fifteen years from that point until I-80 would be complete through the state.

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Interstate 70 at Green River, 1971 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5763177021/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Wasn't there a thread somewhere that talked about this style of "lane ends" sign? Apparently, Utah had these ones too.

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400 South at State Street, 1971 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5763175957/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

A good example of how complicated bannered routes made things in Salt Lake.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: formulanone on May 26, 2011, 11:17:24 PM
Neat photos. Wishing the Florida Photo Archives were as crisp and larger.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 27, 2011, 12:50:50 AM
good stuff!  I really like that 40/Alt89/91 guide sign (did the ALT designation extend to 91, or was it just 89?) - looks to have a black background, too, which was a federal standard in the 1961 MUTCD but was dropped in the 1970.  corresponds with the 1970-spec shields.

interestingly, signs that were white with black legend (i.e. destination and distance signs with no shields) were not mandated to be the modern green and white until the 1978 revision of the MUTCD.

as for the THIS LANE ENDS sign with double arrow - Maryland, I believe, is the state that believes in them heavily.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on May 27, 2011, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 27, 2011, 12:50:50 AM
did the ALT designation extend to 91, or was it just 89?

Yep, the State Street/North Temple routing was both 89 Alternate and 91 Alternate.

EDIT: Interstate Trav, I found a photo that confirms that Los Angeles was a control city on I-15 (though I'm still not sure if that was ever the case for US-91). In Salt Lake, no less!

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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 06, 2011, 02:54:34 PM
The tedium increases as the photos get less and less promising . . .

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southbound I-15 at US-89 / Beck St, 1975 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5907595767/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Just after US-91 was truncated its present condition. This is one of the first freeway signs in the state; this stretch of I-15 opened to traffic in 1960.

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Main St at 1100 South, Brigham City, 1974 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5907595639/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

That I-15 shield looks like the custom Utah font, does it not? Also note a weird alternate 89/91 designation... not sure what that's about.

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northbound I-15 at 200 West, 1972 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5908125546/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

I-80N on a BGS. In eight years, that would be changed to I-84.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 15, 2011, 08:43:05 PM
I took a break from the state archives and took pictures of signs that stand today. I got every exit from Provo to St. George and back. Every photo from that little roadgeeking sojourn is on my Flickr account (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/), but here are some highlights:

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Utah is hit-and-miss when it comes to signing route concurrencies. The I-15/US-6 concurrency is rather new (1996 or something like that), so it's actually signed.

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On the other end of the concurrency spectrum, this is the only instance of the I-15/US-50 one being signed. This is in Scipio.

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Everyone's favorite malformed I-15 shield!

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First shield I've ever seen on a Utah distance sign. Also note the mixed-case series C typeface used. Looks nice, but maybe not the best for visibility.

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Looks understandable enough, but keep in mind you're doing around 55 mph while exiting on the off-ramp. Difficult to parse in that short of time.

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On one of my favorite portions of I-15, between New Harmony and Toquerville. That's probably the last button-copy sign on mainline I-15.

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One of the 80 mph speed zones on I-15. Doesn't make much of a difference in terms of how fast everyone's going, but I guess they're nice.

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And just for kicks, a big brown sign. That's not a route shield for some long-forgotten pre-state highway route... that's just the symbol for Utah State Parks.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Alex on July 15, 2011, 10:21:24 PM
Quote from: CL on July 15, 2011, 08:43:05 PM
I took a break from the state archives and took pictures of signs that stand today. I got every exit from Provo to St. George and back. Every photo from that little roadgeeking sojourn is on my Flickr account (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/), but here are some highlights:

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Everyone's favorite malformed I-15 shield!

Sad to visit Utah in the midst of the sign replacement project that debuted those awful shields (2004):

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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 15, 2011, 10:45:46 PM
what was wrong with the shield which is on the ground?  the NORTH banner appears a bit dinged up, but the shield looks fine.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 16, 2011, 02:10:53 AM
It's typical of UDOT to fix something that isn't broken. Hence no button-copy, and hence those asinine I-15 shields. The good thing is these are limited to a ten-mile stretch of I-15 (from I-70 to around Manderfield).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 20, 2011, 12:56:18 AM
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1962.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 20, 2011, 12:58:40 AM
wow!!

glad the beehive won out.  and glad they tightened up the shape a bit.

the Giant Letter U just doesn't look right in its reworked form.

good to know that 1962 is when they were thinking about switching.  I had guessed 1961 because that is when the feds mandated the black-square style.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: national highway 1 on July 20, 2011, 04:48:31 AM
I quite like the UT state outline 118 though... but the beehive is still better...
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 22, 2011, 04:18:53 AM
That above beehive is hideous. But yes, they did clean it up:

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This was taken in 1964. So, between 1962 and 1964 it was decided that the beehive was going to be the new state highway symbol. Check out that funky font on the SR-279 shield.

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Now I can say with complete confidence that I-415 was a signed route, through and through. It only lasted two years on a three-mile stretch of route (if that), but it was there. I posted an I-415 sign before, but the caveat for that photo was that the junction for that road wasn't even built yet.

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Welcome to 1958. Land of no interstates. This just looks so typically '50s to me, including the overhead signage. They just have that vintage look to them.

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For kicks, Utah's experimentation in reflectorized signage. Note the mixed-case series C. That, too, was an experiment.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 22, 2011, 10:31:09 AM
Quote from: CL on July 22, 2011, 04:18:53 AM
That above beehive is hideous. But yes, they did clean it up:

[UT-279]

This was taken in 1964. So, between 1962 and 1964 it was decided that the beehive was going to be the new state highway symbol. Check out that funky font on the SR-279 shield.

neato custom font!  I don't believe I had seen the Utah font in Series B before.

Quote[415]

Now I can say with complete confidence that I-415 was a signed route, through and through. It only lasted two years on a three-mile stretch of route (if that), but it was there. I posted an I-415 sign before, but the caveat for that photo was that the junction for that road wasn't even built yet.

except the sign had not yet been installed in that photo ;)  maybe, as the winch was being hoisted, the override work order came in, to say "nah, forget it, guys, just the leftmost two signs, please!"

Quote[outline shields]

Welcome to 1958. Land of no interstates. This just looks so typically '50s to me, including the overhead signage. They just have that vintage look to them.

wow, great to see Utah using that standard shield element.  that is a button copy style developed by AGA around 1957, as far as I can tell, and I've tracked about 10 states - make that 11 - that used it.  California was huge into it, and Colorado comes to mind as well.

also note the JUNCTION banner in the distance on the right - with no shields underneath.  Perhaps they had just taken those shields down, to install this new overhead gantry?

QuoteFor kicks, Utah's experimentation in reflectorized signage. Note the mixed-case series C. That, too, was an experiment.

I believe that, while the uppercase letters are CM, the lowercase are DM or EM.  also, nice 80N shield with the wide state name.  the shield I had in my hands the other day had the narrow state name; Michael Summa believes it is a contractor sign, installed when a new segment of road opened.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Interstate Trav on July 23, 2011, 02:32:00 PM
Quote from: CL on May 27, 2011, 12:11:53 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 27, 2011, 12:50:50 AM
did the ALT designation extend to 91, or was it just 89?

Yep, the State Street/North Temple routing was both 89 Alternate and 91 Alternate.

EDIT: Interstate Trav, I found a photo that confirms that Los Angeles was a control city on I-15 (though I'm still not sure if that was ever the case for US-91). In Salt Lake, no less!

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Thank You!!  I just noticed.  It's interesting that Los Angeles is signed that far away.  Alos interestin that it says Provo and Los Angeles with no mention of Las Vegas.
I wonder if it was the same for US 91.  I appreciate you telling me about it.  Thank You. 
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 23, 2011, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 22, 2011, 10:31:09 AM
Quote from: CL
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Now I can say with complete confidence that I-415 was a signed route, through and through. It only lasted two years on a three-mile stretch of route (if that), but it was there. I posted an I-415 sign before, but the caveat for that photo was that the junction for that road wasn't even built yet.

except the sign had not yet been installed in that photo ;)  maybe, as the winch was being hoisted, the override work order came in, to say "nah, forget it, guys, just the leftmost two signs, please!"

Jake, leave it to you to ruin my momentous discovery of a sign that basically makes life just that much better. Only you. :)

Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 22, 2011, 10:31:09 AM
Quote[outline shields]

Welcome to 1958. Land of no interstates. This just looks so typically '50s to me, including the overhead signage. They just have that vintage look to them.

wow, great to see Utah using that standard shield element.  that is a button copy style developed by AGA around 1957, as far as I can tell, and I've tracked about 10 states - make that 11 - that used it.  California was huge into it, and Colorado comes to mind as well.

also note the JUNCTION banner in the distance on the right - with no shields underneath.  Perhaps they had just taken those shields down, to install this new overhead gantry?

Yep, if you look at the largest zoom level (http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5963584444_72ff1473d6_o.jpg) you'll be able to spot some '48-spec shields for the junction. It's not very clear in the photo, but they're there.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Mergingtraffic on July 25, 2011, 02:29:25 PM
Quote from: CL on July 22, 2011, 04:18:53 AM
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I'm surprised they are letting traffic go through while they fix the signs overhead.
Also, Utah seems proactive in widening their interstates.  How many lanes is I-15 now in Salt Lake?   When was it widened?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: NE2 on July 25, 2011, 02:41:29 PM
I-15 was widened in preparation for the 2002 Olympics.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 30, 2011, 10:55:53 PM
Few new ones:

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Taken just after this stretch of I-80 opened on 23 December 1966.


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This sign reveals early UDOT signing practices. Notice the outline US-89/91 shields. There was another photo in the archives (though it was horrendously blurry) with a block U state highway shield on a BGS (for the present day Warm Springs Rd/2300 North exit, which used to be SR-249).


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This stretch of I-15 opened in 1960, one of the few years we had with '57-spec interstate shields and '48-spec U.S. highway shields in service simultaneously.


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UDOT has been known to sign the I-80/US-189 concurrency before, though it's probably been more than forty years.


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Miniscule shields for the US-40/US-50A sharing-of-pavement between Lake Point Jct and West Wendover. Note that for the US-50A shield, "ALT" is where the usual state name of "UTAH" should be.


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So I found this picture laying around, and I thought it would be good to identify what roadway this is. Hollywood, sometime in the early or mid-1960s.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on August 29, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
A few shields that I like (and dislike), plus three photos from 1983.

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Three-digit shields for I-215 have been used exclusively since the '90s, but the shields fluctuate between series C and D. Obviously, when D is used the numbers are tightly kerned. Too much so, if you ask me.


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I'm making the case for this style of shield again. Don't they look so much better than the ones below?


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Those just look dowdy.


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By 1983, we've seen the demise of US-40, US-40A, and US-50A from Salt Lake City. SR-201 lies in their wakes.


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So, this is confirmation that state-named shields were phased out between 1976 and 1983. It'd be nice to get an exact year but I don't think I'll be discovering that soon.


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I believe this is the present-day I-15/US-50 junction in Scipio. A stretch of freeway had just opened south of Nephi, and I believe this is the northern temporary end of that section of I-15.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: texaskdog on August 29, 2011, 10:32:46 PM
I-15 is 80 MPH around Parowan.  We only got to drive a few miles of it.  When was the speed limit raised in Utah and how far up is it still 80 MPH?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Ian on August 29, 2011, 10:41:54 PM
I don't know. I like the Utah shields with the white outer margin. The outline around the beehive can go though.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Central Avenue on August 29, 2011, 10:45:48 PM
I don't have a preference one way or the other for the outer border, but the border around the beehive just makes the design feel unnecessarily busy/cluttered to me.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on August 30, 2011, 01:16:19 AM
Quote from: CL on August 29, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
So, this is confirmation that state-named shields were phased out between 1976 and 1983. It'd be nice to get an exact year but I don't think I'll be discovering that soon.

my guess is 1978 or shortly thereafter.  a lot of states got rid of state-named shields then, because the MUTCD of 1978 banned the state-named shield.

that said, wasn't I-70 across San Rafael Swell opened in 1986?  there were some state-named shields there in 1998, including one '57-spec at the Fish Lake exit which survived until 2007, and one in Salina ('70 spec) that was the last state-named shield anyone knows of, vanishing sometime in 2008.

also, if you could please get a photo - no matter how godawful - of the Big Letter U on the green sign for us, that would be excellent.  the 36" UTAH/US cutout is something else.  Oregon, California and North Carolina are other states which I know did such a thing, and I am sure there are more which I do not know about.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Brandon on August 30, 2011, 07:16:05 AM
I like the newer beehives, but they should be cutouts with a border like that.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Brandon on August 30, 2011, 07:17:37 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 30, 2011, 01:16:19 AM
Quote from: CL on August 29, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
So, this is confirmation that state-named shields were phased out between 1976 and 1983. It'd be nice to get an exact year but I don't think I'll be discovering that soon.

my guess is 1978 or shortly thereafter.  a lot of states got rid of state-named shields then, because the MUTCD of 1978 banned the state-named shield.

that said, wasn't I-70 across San Rafael Swell opened in 1986?  there were some state-named shields there in 1998, including one '57-spec at the Fish Lake exit which survived until 2007, and one in Salina ('70 spec) that was the last state-named shield anyone knows of, vanishing sometime in 2008.

also, if you could please get a photo - no matter how godawful - of the Big Letter U on the green sign for us, that would be excellent.  the 36" UTAH/US cutout is something else.  Oregon, California and North Carolina are other states which I know did such a thing, and I am sure there are more which I do not know about.

I-70 was two lanes across the San Rafael Swell by 1984.  I took it back then from US-89 to Moab.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on August 30, 2011, 07:52:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 30, 2011, 07:16:05 AM
I like the newer beehives, but they should be cutouts with a border like that.

Actually, the SR-68 and SR-266 shield designs (which first appeared in 2008) are newer than the SR-65/SR-175 design (which first appeared in 2000 or so). Although the former might look pretty close to what we've been using from the 1980s to about ten years ago, there are differences which ultimately make this the better shield over every other design (in my high and mighty opinion, of course).

Appearances aside (though I really think the white outline around the beehive is idiosyncratic and tacky), what I really like about the design that I choose to advocate is how series D numerals are used always. With the outline design, the numerals are more narrow with a three-digit shield than with a two-digit... so why have a three-digit design in the first place?

Quote from: Brandon on August 30, 2011, 07:17:37 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 30, 2011, 01:16:19 AM
Quote from: CL on August 29, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
So, this is confirmation that state-named shields were phased out between 1976 and 1983. It'd be nice to get an exact year but I don't think I'll be discovering that soon.

my guess is 1978 or shortly thereafter.  a lot of states got rid of state-named shields then, because the MUTCD of 1978 banned the state-named shield.

that said, wasn't I-70 across San Rafael Swell opened in 1986?  there were some state-named shields there in 1998, including one '57-spec at the Fish Lake exit which survived until 2007, and one in Salina ('70 spec) that was the last state-named shield anyone knows of, vanishing sometime in 2008.

also, if you could please get a photo - no matter how godawful - of the Big Letter U on the green sign for us, that would be excellent.  the 36" UTAH/US cutout is something else.  Oregon, California and North Carolina are other states which I know did such a thing, and I am sure there are more which I do not know about.

I-70 was two lanes across the San Rafael Swell by 1984.  I took it back then from US-89 to Moab.

Here's a photo just east of the San Rafael Swell in 1971.

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Two lanes in total. Really, all this confirms is that the freeway was open at Fremont Junction in 1971, but it's definitely possible that it was open through the swell at that time as well (or perhaps a portion of it).

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 30, 2011, 01:16:19 AM
Quote from: CL on August 29, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
So, this is confirmation that state-named shields were phased out between 1976 and 1983. It'd be nice to get an exact year but I don't think I'll be discovering that soon.

my guess is 1978 or shortly thereafter.  a lot of states got rid of state-named shields then, because the MUTCD of 1978 banned the state-named shield.

that said, wasn't I-70 across San Rafael Swell opened in 1986?  there were some state-named shields there in 1998, including one '57-spec at the Fish Lake exit which survived until 2007, and one in Salina ('70 spec) that was the last state-named shield anyone knows of, vanishing sometime in 2008.

also, if you could please get a photo - no matter how godawful - of the Big Letter U on the green sign for us, that would be excellent.  the 36" UTAH/US cutout is something else.  Oregon, California and North Carolina are other states which I know did such a thing, and I am sure there are more which I do not know about.

Here's that photo. I-15 at the US-89/US-91 junction north of Salt Lake City.

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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on October 30, 2011, 02:44:45 AM
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Old US-40 between Wendover and Knolls. There is a stretch between mile 2 and mile 12 (thereabout) that is in horrendous shape; the road is so bumpy that travel over 15 mph is prohibitive. Other than that, the rest of old roadway is in passable condition. I went twice the pre-1995 speed limit without any problem (hope that was euphemistic enough).


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A little further east. Notice that the older white striping has proved itself more durable than the newer yellow lines! I surmise that the forsaken yellow striping was only applied once, after I-80 opened.


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At the end of the Wendover-Knolls section of old US-40. I wouldn't be surprised if the arrow for Wendover once pointed left, before I-80 was completed through the area.


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These signs are scattered on I-80 between Tooele and Wendover, for good reason.


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Utah has changed its exit tabs two times in eight years. This is the post-2011 style. I used to dislike it, but I like the polished, rounded appearance of the sign as a whole.


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The 2003-2011 style. Wouldn't be surprised if this sticks around for a few more future installations before completely dying out.


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The 1970s-2003 style. Also note the Utah-spec sign for the first Nevada exit on westbound I-80.


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I introduce to the ladies and gentlemen of this forum (well, gentlemen) a third variant of the state highway shield of Utah. It looks mighty similar to the outline SR-175 shield posted above, one may think, but it's different. Look at the humps of the beehive, as well as the opening of the beehive at the bottom and - of course - the series D numerals.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on November 02, 2011, 01:03:31 AM
Quote from: CL on August 30, 2011, 07:52:53 PM
(SNIP)
I introduce to the ladies and gentlemen of this forum (well, gentlemen) a third variant of the state highway shield of Utah. It looks mighty similar to the outline SR-175 shield posted above, one may think, but it's different. Look at the humps of the beehive, as well as the opening of the beehive at the bottom and - of course - the series D numerals.

You know, I think I like that one--enough room for Series D numerals, simple, and keeps the white beehive outline. It sounds like the UDOT folks are listening to your requests. By the way, have they said anything to you about the beehive design?

I know I'm in the minority, but I like the beehive outline; without it, the signs look a little too plain. But a happy medium can be reached, and the outer border can be used instead. Here's a comparison:

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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: nexus73 on November 02, 2011, 01:23:43 AM
I like the 201 sign the best.  The outlining sharpens up the design so well!

Rick
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on November 05, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on November 02, 2011, 01:03:31 AM
Quote from: CL on August 30, 2011, 07:52:53 PM
(SNIP)
I introduce to the ladies and gentlemen of this forum (well, gentlemen) a third variant of the state highway shield of Utah. It looks mighty similar to the outline SR-175 shield posted above, one may think, but it's different. Look at the humps of the beehive, as well as the opening of the beehive at the bottom and - of course - the series D numerals.

You know, I think I like that one--enough room for Series D numerals, simple, and keeps the white beehive outline. It sounds like the UDOT folks are listening to your requests. By the way, have they said anything to you about the beehive design?

I know I'm in the minority, but I like the beehive outline; without it, the signs look a little too plain. But a happy medium can be reached, and the outer border can be used instead. Here's a comparison:

[two state highway shields]

I honestly wouldn't mind if this newest design (the SR-201 shield above) was used. You're right: it's an excellent compromise between the early 2000s-spec dowdy outline shield and the 2008/2009-spec non-outline shield. I'd still rather have the latter, but the compromise 2011-spec design is growing on me more and more. I love that the compromise design doesn't have a square border around the perimeter of the shield, which to me is just unnecessary. For what it's worth, I spotted a second shield of this new design in American Fork (at the new 500 East diverging diamond interchange).

Here's a comparison of all three, side-by-side:

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The first image is the early 2000s-spec one that I so dislike. The second is the 2008/9-spec one. The third is the newest, "compromise" design.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Quillz on November 06, 2011, 05:11:23 AM
I'd need a better shot of the third design, but I think of those three, I like the first one the best. Although the third one is quite nice, too. I think Series C would be the way to go, though. (As opposed to Series D.)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on November 06, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
I'll try to get a better photo of the new design this week. Incidentally, while driving this weekend I saw three construction projects that had just last week installed the compromise design: a DDI in Utah County (SR-180 at I-15), State Street/US-89 in Salt Lake (at SR-171), and a CFI at Bangerter Highway. While I'm not jumping to conclusions, it seems that UDOT may have finally shown some resolve in fixing the copious state highway shield variants floating around. It's just rare to have three separate projects in separate metropolitan areas use the same state highway shield; usually, someone varies in one way or another. So, we'll see. If my guess is correct, this is the first time UDOT and associated contractors have been using one consistent design in ten years.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Quillz on November 06, 2011, 10:31:11 PM
I indeed found another photo of the so called compromise design, and it does look nice. From what I've seen so far, UDOT has some nice looking BGS.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on November 08, 2011, 08:07:00 PM
Where'd you find that other photo? I'd love to see it.

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Here's all three designs (early 2000s, 2009, and 2011/"compromise") side-by-side.

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And here's the same route (though only the early 2000s and 2011 designs), so one can do a completely apples-to-apples comparison.

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And here's Utah's first arrow-per-lane (or whatever it's called) diagrammatic, installed at a new DDI in northern Utah County.

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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Quillz on November 08, 2011, 08:28:20 PM
Yeah, I agree with you for sure on the "compromise" design being the best. That SR-154 shield is very nice looking.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Ian on November 08, 2011, 10:40:19 PM
I definitely like the UT 154 shield on the right better. But why does it need that many screws to mount it onto the pole? I know that there are those horizontal bars on the back of it, but I don't think it needs that many screws.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on December 21, 2011, 07:37:54 PM
Early Christmas present:

A state-name, non-neutered shield has been posted in Salt Lake City. Interstate 80 eastbound just east of Redwood Road. I should be able to get a photo tomorrow. It's not a '57-spec shield or anything, but... wow.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 21, 2011, 07:45:49 PM
Quote from: CL on December 21, 2011, 07:37:54 PMI've eaten my hat.

I have purchased an entire hat factory and am now purchasing and eating one week of their manufacturing capability.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on December 22, 2011, 08:24:53 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7147%2F6556863643_5247d5b6e0_z.jpg&hash=fa8f309da8d225d0905b46a1208453b0417b7fd4) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/6556863643/)

Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to follow Jake's lead then please prepare your ready-to-eat hats.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: corco on December 22, 2011, 08:41:26 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOLY SHIT
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: J N Winkler on December 22, 2011, 08:45:56 PM
Huge huge digits, small small state name:  not the work of true believers.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: NE2 on December 22, 2011, 08:54:58 PM
True believers would put ZION instead.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: corco on December 22, 2011, 08:56:24 PM
Deseret!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 22, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
at this time, I have a physiological condition involving blood rushing to a highly specific anatomical area.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on December 23, 2011, 03:13:50 AM
I'm glad that you all appreciate the magnitude of this occurrence. Utah–a state that has been wholly devoid of non-neutered shields for some five years–has done something that I thought I would never again see in my lifetime. Now, I use "Utah" loosely; I suspect that it was some contractor using odd specs that installed this. As Jonathan mentioned, the dimensions to this shield are way off: numbers are huge (typical Utah style) and the state name is perched in the space between the "8" and the "0" (aka "Massachusetts" would overlap with the numerals if placed). Also, shields were installed this week in another location as well, and they were neutered.

Well, I still consider this a wicked thing, especially considering that for the past decade or more it's been either a vast improbability or an impossibility to find a non-neutered shield. Here's hoping that whoever this contractor is continues to make this "mistake."

Well, here's more photos:

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So much for any hope that one shield variant would prevail. This week, that left-most SR-171 shield was installed, along with several others. Who's the idiot that keeps stipulating that series B be used for a three-digit width shield?


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Second arrow-per-lane diagrammatic in the state.


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The top image is 2005-spec signage; the bottom is 2011-spec. Differences abound, including exit tabs and–most lamentably–the lack of overhead lighting. UDOT has officially decided that they aren't going to illuminate their overhead signage anymore. Just another side effect of the inhibited economy.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Quillz on December 23, 2011, 05:16:03 AM
Isn't overhead lighting unnecessary on BGS that are retroreflective, though?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on December 23, 2011, 12:16:43 PM
Well, yeah. That's the rationale the UDOT is giving. But overhead lighting is a pretty nice thing nonetheless, especially where there is no street lighting.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Scott5114 on December 23, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
This thread is pretty much the zenith of the AARoads forum.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on December 24, 2011, 03:12:45 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 23, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
This thread is pretty much the zenith of the AARoads forum.

Hey. That's great of you. I really enjoy the exchange of thought that takes place on this thread, and on the entire forum. Here's to more zenith-like days.

It looks like Utah is making a wholesale switch to arrow-per-lane diagrammatics. Here's plans for BGSs to be installed at an auxiliary lane addition in Davis County (the county north of Salt Lake):

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I'm not sure what to think.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: NE2 on December 24, 2011, 03:23:01 AM
If we can't have our V [EXIT V ONLY] that's not half bad as a replacement. Though there's no reason the bottom row can't be moved up, placing the tip of the up arrow to the left of the distance.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Brandon on December 24, 2011, 10:04:23 AM
Quote from: CL on December 23, 2011, 03:13:50 AM
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Second arrow-per-lane diagrammatic in the state.

Nice sign, but there's a bit much green space under the I-215 South part.  Maybe a destination should go there?
I do like the "Left Only" for the left turn arrows on the sign.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Scott5114 on December 24, 2011, 08:35:50 PM
Ehhhh... I don't know about those sign plans that were just posted. They're not too clear. In the left lane you have a splitting arrow; sure, the lane goes to the right, but where does going straight put you? It almost points up to the same destination that turning indicates! Sure it's parsable with common sense but we all know how well that works for some people...
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on December 26, 2011, 12:47:32 AM
Yeah, that was the first thing that popped into my mind as well. However, it amazes me how many people I drive with don't realize that if an arrow isn't emblazoned with "exit only," that it's an option exit lane. Maybe this'll help. Plus, throwing any desire of practicality away, I like how European it looks.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 27, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
there are now 10 new state-named shields in Utah.  all on the same segment of I-80 (between the western 215 and the 15 junctions).  that reassurance, and then three sets of green signs for 80/15, each of which has 80/15 and 15 shields, so nine altogether.

all the shields are the same style, with the huge number and tiny state name.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: OracleUsr on February 27, 2012, 10:46:02 PM
Quote from: CL on December 23, 2011, 12:16:43 PM
Well, yeah. That's the rationale the UDOT is giving. But overhead lighting is a pretty nice thing nonetheless, especially where there is no street lighting.

I've seen those retroreflective signs in the dead of night on an unlit highway, such as I-85 in Henderson, NC at US 1 South.  Believe me, the sheeting makes the sign stand out just fine.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on March 12, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 27, 2012, 11:43:25 AM
there are now 10 new state-named shields in Utah.  all on the same segment of I-80 (between the western 215 and the 15 junctions).  that reassurance, and then three sets of green signs for 80/15, each of which has 80/15 and 15 shields, so nine altogether.

all the shields are the same style, with the huge number and tiny state name.

This is true. I just about peed my pants when I saw them. Here's the disappointing thing, though. There is maybe one set of BGSs that are made with standards in mind; the rest have something wrong with them in terms of following specs.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on May 08, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
More non-neutered shields have been posted, folks! I-215, around the Union Park Ave and Highland Dr exits. They're just signs posted on temporary posts, however (directing motorists through a detour), so I don't know if they'll stick around. They have basically the same specs as the I-80 shield posted above (huge numerals, etc), except on a three-digit shield. I hope to get some photos tomorrow.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 09, 2012, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: CL on May 08, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
More non-neutered shields have been posted, folks! I-215, around the Union Park Ave and Highland Dr exits. They're just signs posted on temporary posts, however (directing motorists through a detour), so I don't know if they'll stick around. They have basically the same specs as the I-80 shield posted above (huge numerals, etc), except on a three-digit shield. I hope to get some photos tomorrow.

I would like some detail photos, as I've never seen a state-named 215 in the flesh.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on May 10, 2012, 01:59:18 AM
Well, I don't think this is what you had in mind in regards to "detail photos..."

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...but I suppose it's better than nothing. Reminds me of this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/5611792622/). Perhaps these shields will one day be posted on permanent posts, but who knows.

So, here are those state-named BGSs on eastbound I-80 between Redwood Road and 6th South:

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Who can spot the two discrepancies in the newer photo? These signs replaced 1999-era signs just this year. Notice the state-name shields on the left and right signs! This stretch of road (I-80 between I-15 and Redwood Road) is the only one in the state that has BGSs with state-name shields on them. Pretty nifty, considering Utah's been devoid of such things forever.

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Same photo that I posted a few posts back, but with better lighting.

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There's something that I like more about the older signs, truth be told. Note that although the newer signs were posted in 2012, they are using 2005-spec exit tabs, not 2011-spec.

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First time I've ever seen Evanston as a control city from a BGS in Salt Lake. Cheyenne is usually used in this instance.

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New (late '80s/early '90s signage) and old (1967).

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I'm not much of a signal guy, but these are some of the last eight-inch signals in the metropolitan area. They're LED signals.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: national highway 1 on May 10, 2012, 04:46:31 AM
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Love the I-415 sign! Interesting how 'Denver' is signed via I-80 east -probably alluding to the old US 40 route.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: elsmere241 on May 10, 2012, 07:55:16 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on May 10, 2012, 04:46:31 AM

Love the I-415 sign! Interesting how 'Denver' is signed via I-80 east -probably alluding to the old US 40 route.

As late as 1982 (maybe much later) I-80 was signed from I-15 as "Denver / Cheyenne"
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on May 10, 2012, 02:05:49 PM
Not signage, but that's okay. Here are shots of my favorite stretch of freeway in the city: I-215 north of Knudsen's Corner.

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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Ian on May 10, 2012, 03:00:59 PM
The state named Utah interstate shields are definitely a trend I don't mind them sticking to!

Quote from: CL on May 10, 2012, 01:59:18 AM
I'm not much of a signal guy, but these are some of the last eight-inch signals in the metropolitan area. They're LED signals.

Awesome find! 8" LED arrows are about as rare as finding a state named interstate shield in Massachusetts.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 10, 2012, 03:06:32 PM
that 215 is boner-rific!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on May 27, 2012, 06:13:06 PM
Spotted a few more state-named shields (!) at the University Parkway exit of I-15 in Orem (a CFI just opened at an intersection adjacent to the freeway interchange). Pictures as soon as I venture down to Utah County again.

Installation of these state-named shields is rather sporadic–and to be honest, I think I'd rather have consistency rather than a mix of state-named and neutered. Not to say that these state-named shields aren't great. Because they are.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on May 28, 2012, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: CL on May 27, 2012, 06:13:06 PM
Spotted a few more state-named shields (!) at the University Parkway exit of I-15 in Orem (a CFI just opened at an intersection adjacent to the freeway interchange). Pictures as soon as I venture down to Utah County again.

Installation of these state-named shields is rather sporadic–and to be honest, I think I'd rather have consistency rather than a mix of state-named and neutered. Not to say that these state-named shields aren't great. Because they are.

I wonder if this might be a gradual change--I can't seem to recall any specific email conversations with them, but I may have mentioned something to UDOT a while back. Something like "older signs can be replaced by newer state-named shields." if this is indeed true, then I'm pretty stoked about one suggestion I've made--to revert back to the cutout US shields, be they the California, double-outline, or the US-89 shields on I-70/US-89 in Sevier County. I'm not holding my breath, but I can dream...
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 28, 2012, 03:12:15 PM
the state-named shields are spreading.  excellent!

wonder if we can get one to spread to Tennessee... as far as I know, there are none in that state.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: hbelkins on May 28, 2012, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 28, 2012, 03:12:15 PM
the state-named shields are spreading.  excellent!

wonder if we can get one to spread to Tennessee... as far as I know, there are none in that state.

If anyone is in the area, they should go to the north side of I-40 Exit 407 (the TN 66 exit for Sevierville, Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg.)

About 12-13 years ago, there was a pair of state-name I-40 signs on the southbound unnumbered county highway approaching that interchange. I did not have a camera handy to take a photo.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 28, 2012, 03:40:49 PM
as far as I know, those are gone.

the last one I ever saw was on the western end of 640 - I can't remember if it was the END 640 or the JCT 40 but one was state named.  this was on Dec 31, 2004.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 05, 2012, 05:05:27 PM
Hey, CL, any updates on state-named shields?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on June 07, 2012, 09:14:34 PM
Nope. Haven't seen one since I was in Utah County (Orem) a few weeks ago, and I haven't had the opportunity to venture down there to get some photos. But it's still on my to-do list. I'm also planning on getting photos of all the new signage that's been posted on I-15 through there. Completion of the 24-mile reconstruction project is around six months away, but the northern third of the project is virtually complete.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on June 14, 2012, 03:28:02 AM
Anyone who has traversed Southern Parkway (SR-7) in St. George knows that it has piss-poor signage. I mean, no reassurance shields anywhere. (Actually, no standalone SR-7 shield even exists.) No mileage signs. One exit doesn't even have signage to denote itself. Well, UDOT just put out a signage contract...

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Astragalus Dr is the one that lacks any signage whatsoever for its exit on Southern Parkway. This will be rectified soon, although I hope the arrow on the Astragalus Dr exit sign will be fixed so that it's properly tapered. Plenty of extra signage guiding the way to I-15, too.


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This is the Desert Canyons Pkwy exit, which I guess will be opening soon. Situated between the River Rd and Airport Pkwy exits, this exit remained closed as the mainline freeway opened in 2010. SR-7 shields abound. Don't like the signs that read "PARKWAY ENTRANCE." A freeway is a freeway is a freeway. It's the Southern Parkway freeway, not the Southern Parkway parkway.


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This page reveals that the exit after Airport Pkwy (which is the temporary northern terminus of SR-7 right now) will be Warner Valley Rd, some three-and-a-half miles north of Airport Pkwy. Not sure when the next stretch of SR-7 will open, but progress is being made.

Sorry for the lack of photos. I don't think I'll be venturing anywhere near St. George for the next few months.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 14, 2012, 10:54:05 AM
what's the general progress on that?  when I last drove it,. in August of 2009, I seem to recall it having the bridges made for two carriageways, but only two lanes having been built (the south side, IIRC)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 14, 2012, 02:15:23 PM
Good to hear about SR-7; I also find it interesting that UDOT and the contractors are using "Parkway Entrance" and not "Freeway " or "Expressway " entrance. There's a relatively good chance that I'll have time to get down to St. George and snap some pictures when I can.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on June 14, 2012, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 14, 2012, 10:54:05 AM
what's the general progress on that?  when I last drove it,. in August of 2009, I seem to recall it having the bridges made for two carriageways, but only two lanes having been built (the south side, IIRC)

SR-7 is open to exit 7, Airport Parkway. The segment between Airport Parkway and Warner Valley Road has begun or will begin construction this year. The last time I drove through in July 2011, there were dual carriageways all the way to past future exit 6, Desert Canyons Parkway. That last mile to Airport Parkway is still a super-2.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: national highway 1 on June 14, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on June 14, 2012, 02:15:23 PM
Good to hear about SR-7; I also find it interesting that UDOT and the contractors are using "Parkway Entrance" and not "Freeway " or "Expressway " entrance. There's a relatively good chance that I'll have time to get down to St. George and snap some pictures when I can.
Similar to how CalTrans signs CA 110 as (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F1%2F19%2FCalifornia_110.svg%2F200px-California_110.svg.png&hash=aa1cc8754d670fb2c280102f93662b6d90d4d709) PARKWAY.
BTW, does anyone know if the FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs on the 110 have been replaced by PARKWAY ENTRANCE signs? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: J N Winkler on June 14, 2012, 09:22:46 PM
My question:  what's the deal with the sign in the lower-right quarter of the plan sheet?

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The rule that directions are grouped straight ahead-left-right (reading from the top of the sign) seems to have gone out of the window, and not just on this signing contract or even in this state.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 14, 2012, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: national highway 1 on June 14, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
BTW, does anyone know if the FREEWAY ENTRANCE signs on the 110 have been replaced by PARKWAY ENTRANCE signs? :hmmm:

the entrances I've taken, yes.  but I've only taken one or two.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Alps on June 15, 2012, 06:37:10 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 14, 2012, 09:22:46 PM
My question:  what's the deal with the sign in the lower-right quarter of the plan sheet?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7088%2F7371087914_e7f5860cc3_c.jpg&hash=8d3daa4b9352366f30897593155139b15e215927)

The rule that directions are grouped straight ahead-left-right (reading from the top of the sign) seems to have gone out of the window, and not just on this signing contract or even in this state.
Let's also point out that the small caps look half the large caps, when it should be in the 3/4 to 5/6 range.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Stratuscaster on June 15, 2012, 11:30:35 PM
I would venture that someone somewhere felt that "To I-15" trumps "straight ahead."
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on June 16, 2012, 02:25:55 AM
Quote from: Steve on June 15, 2012, 06:37:10 PM
Let's also point out that the small caps look half the large caps, when it should be in the 3/4 to 5/6 range.

There are often minor inconsistencies or lapses in standards in the signing sheets that get corrected later on. Those I-15 shields with the smaller numerals (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/I-15.svg/200px-I-15_%28big%29.svg.png) will undoubtedly be manufactured onto the sign looking like this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/I-15_%28big%29.svg/200px-I-15_%28big%29.svg.png) (which is the Utah standard).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on July 05, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
While I'm not the main guy to post Utah pictures, I feel that it is appropriate that I post these here. It appears that the "Compromise Design" has made it as far south as Nephi (in Juab County):

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A closer look shows that the beehive goes all the way out to the border, which is something I don't think I've ever seen:

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I've also seen some more newer signs of this variety in Utah County (such as SR-73 in Lehi and SR-241) signs at the Lindon exit. I didn't take pictures of those, but I'm pretty sure that's what I've seen.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 05, 2012, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on July 05, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
"Compromise Design"

what does this mean?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on July 05, 2012, 07:22:37 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 05, 2012, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on July 05, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
"Compromise Design"

what does this mean?


The early 2000s design has an outline around the beehive and the outside of the sign. The late 2000s design doesn't have any outlines anywhere but is almost entirely 3-digit. The "compromise" has an outline around the beehive but not around the outside, and is mostly 3-digit (though some SR-73 signs in Lehi appear to have 2-digit variations).

Here is a comparison between the variations (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4045.msg122510#msg122510), from earlier in this thread. Here's a comparison between the traditional and early 2000s variations (//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/UT/UT20071191i1.jpg). The SR-118 sign is the familiar, traditional design, while SR-119's is an early 2000s 2-digit design.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on July 07, 2012, 12:36:26 AM
I've come across a picture from the St. George Spectrum (may or may not be paywalled) that have a neutered I-15 shield at the soon-to-be-completed Dixie Drive interchange (Exit 5) in St. George. What's of note here is that the digits in I-15 aren't ginormous:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmsimg.thespectrum.com%2Fapps%2Fpbcsi.dll%2Fbilde%3FSite%3DG3%26amp%3BDate%3D20120706%26amp%3BCategory%3DNEWS01%26amp%3BArtNo%3D307060014%26amp%3BRef%3DAR%26amp%3BMaxW%3D640%26amp%3BBorder%3D0%26amp%3BDixie-Drive-Red-Hills-Parkway-work-nears-completion&hash=d3e39580e6b609fc43ad6c3cca8e95ea51200cce)

This IMO is the best way to do Interstate shields, neutered or not (though the number should be moved down if the state name is on it).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 07, 2012, 02:01:24 AM
Quote from: Rover_0 on July 05, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
While I'm not the main guy to post Utah pictures, I feel that it is appropriate that I post these here. It appears that the "Compromise Design" has made it as far south as Nephi (in Juab County):

[SR-132 shield]

A closer look shows that the beehive goes all the way out to the border, which is something I don't think I've ever seen:

[SR-132 shield]

I've also seen some more newer signs of this variety in Utah County (such as SR-73 in Lehi and SR-241) signs at the Lindon exit. I didn't take pictures of those, but I'm pretty sure that's what I've seen.

Actually, that's the early-2000s beehive, not the so-called "compromise design." It's not really the outer border that determines it; it's the actual humps of the beehive and the opening (if you can call it that) in the lower center of the beehive. The "compromise design" takes the humps of the beehive and the opening from the late-2000s design and then puts an outline around the beehive. Thus, the compromise.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6228%2F6326880569_b4435f03f9_z.jpg&hash=51b9421fccb4a014618d06cce2fca3cf5518ca34)

Left SR-175 shield: early-2000s / Middle SR-266 shield: late-2000s / Right SR-201 shield: "compromise"

The outer border doesn't really matter, because I've seen countless "early-2000s" shields that either do or do not have the outer border. Depends on the whim of the contractor, I guess.

Since the beginning of this year, installations have been about fifty percent "early-2000s" design and fifty percent "compromise" variant. Maybe it depends on the contractor; two separate yet adjacent repaving projects on SR-71 used the two different designs. The late-2000s design has all but died out. I'm still rooting for the compromise variant, partly because the early-2000s design provisions that series-B numerals be used for three-digit shields and series-C for two-digit. (That's not a typo.) The SR-132 shield that Rover posted is an exception, or maybe the provisions I just listed are specific to that UDOT region. (Nephi and Salt Lake are in different regions.)

As for those I-15 shields with smaller numerals, I suspect that's just the contractor following the plan sheets for the project. Because most of the plan sheets I've seen have diagrams with those smaller-numeral shields. It's definitely rare to see shields like that in Utah.

In terms of state-named Interstate shields, a few more I-215 (permanent!) shields have been posted on 900 East (as part of one of those SR-71 resurfacing projects I mentioned) in Murray. They're one-piecers, however, with a green background. Kinda like this:

TO
UTAH
215
–>

That's a little crude, but you get the picture. I live in the general vicinity of all those new SR-71 and I-215 shields, so I'll get some photos soon and post them here.

If anyone's in the Provo area, make sure to get photos of all the signage at the Provo Center Street and University Parkway interchanges. Especially the latter, because that's where those stellar I-15 state-name shields are, as well as some nicely designed SR-265 shields.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 09, 2012, 03:15:49 PM
This isn't nearly as exciting as going down to Utah County and getting shots of all the new signage that's all over the place, but it's still something pretty great:

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Yep. First I-215 state-name shield posted in thirty-four years. There are three at this intersection (900 East and 6600 South), and those three are the only state-name I-215 shields in existence. One-piece assemblies like this are quite uncommon in (urban) Utah. One-piecers with white backgrounds were popular for a time, but those have fallen out of use.


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Left image: southbound SR-71 / Right image: northbound SR-71

SR-266 is in Salt Lake County; SR-66 is in Morgan County. I think that's all that needs to be said. (Oh, and lame early-2000s-spec shields.)


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"Compromise"-variant SR-71 shield.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7136%2F7537394678_9b5910f57e_c.jpg&hash=92d2139556ea9ae4642541b0219197d3e78d4270)

Early-2000s-spec SR-71 shield, for comparison.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8164%2F7537443644_23f336371e_c.jpg&hash=f60f8629d1313caa4f4e6ec16bce5d5981e50a4b)

Bizarre contractor error. Notice the old SR-171 shield, which was present at this intersection before the repaving project.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8424%2F7537406934_b174aed7cf_c.jpg&hash=96ac29b5470602784dff4e7f6c6402db9605081c)

These early-2000s-spec shields are huge. Like freeway-spec size. Note the erroneous "END" banner placement on that SR-152 shield.


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More compromise shields. Note that the last two photos are at the same intersection; they were just installed by different contractors. I hope this better demonstrates the difference between the early-2000s-spec and compromise shields.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8424%2F7537419762_14885903d7_c.jpg&hash=8be24701aeea0086bdb7db30203fe728b5bc3f73)

Finally, a "prepare to stop" sign; also the same intersection. Utah likes to post these at certain expressway intersections. (The roadway on which this photo was taken isn't an expressway, however. It's just a tad difficult to see the traffic signals from the top of the hill from which the road descends.)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 09, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
can you get us a closeup of a state-named 215?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Compulov on July 09, 2012, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: CL on July 22, 2011, 04:18:53 AM
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Welcome to 1958. Land of no interstates. This just looks so typically '50s to me, including the overhead signage. They just have that vintage look to them.

Sorry to dredge up an old post on this thread, but I was curious... is that an old US Government plate on the car closest to the camera?
There's something really cool about seeing major highways before the Interstate.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on July 11, 2012, 02:05:43 PM
Speaking of Utah County and their new signage, I've been able to snap some pictures in the vicinity of I-15's Exits 273 (Orem/Lindon) and one from Exit 279 (Lehi). These were taken from an iPod, so quality may be an issue. Here's just about all the signage from SR-241 with a couple of SR-114 signs:

At SR-241's east end, looking south on an adjoining street:
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West SR-241 just past SB I-15 off-ramp:
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Advance SR-114 JCT sign:
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Intersecting arrows for SR-114 at UT-241's west end:
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East SR-241 Sign:
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Also, a state-named I-15 shield:
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From Lehi,

While fuzzy, you can still notice the "UTAH" on the I-15 shields:
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And the ever-so-confusing west end of SR-73's east segment:
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Notice the "12" in the "END" sign. I really don't like segmenting routes like SR-73 now is. Either do something like California does and mark connecting non-state-maintained roads as state routes (CA-178, I think) or put a "West SR-73 (Straight Ahead Arrow)" sign here.

Either that, or completely renumber this eastern segment as something else (SR-242, bring back SR-197). If you can have a short stub like SR-93 (in Woods Cross) and SR-241, then this eastern segment of SR-73 can have a number all its own.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 11, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
that 15 not only is a state-named shield, but it has the correct size of name.  this in opposition to the 36" shields which had the tiny state name.  this one is perfect '70 spec.  looks like UTAH is back.  excellent.

now, onward to Tennessee.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 12, 2012, 07:03:26 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on July 11, 2012, 02:05:43 PM
Also, a state-named I-15 shield:
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Wow. Rover, thank you for making the trek to Provo to get those photos. I hope everyone that reads this appreciates the significance of a state-name I-15 shield in Utah. Utah, where state-name shields have been virtually non-existent for the last fifteen years. And here we are in 2012—state-name shields are being installed left and right. (Well, not exactly. Plenty of neutered shields are yet being utilized. I suppose that it depends on the contractor.)

And don't all those state route shields look great, too? Those SR-241 shields really accentuate the improvements in visibility of the numerals over the early-2000s shields. I think I can make it down to Provo sometime within the next seven days to get some photos of all the new shields, and some of the new overhead signage on I-15.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 09, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
can you get us a closeup of a state-named 215?

It would be my pleasure.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Scott5114 on July 17, 2012, 04:39:06 PM
Date code discussion split off to new topic: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7229.0
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 24, 2012, 11:51:08 AM
a video which Jeff Royston just posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_FMsQEyp4c&feature=em-share_video_user

lots of new state-named shields in Utah!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 25, 2012, 03:01:28 AM
Not sure what to think about that series-C I-70 shield, but there you have it. I wonder where that state-name I-15 shield is that appears at 0:26.

I still have getting the close-up of that 215 shield on my to-do list. Just waiting to get my telephoto lens back into commission (might as well get a good photo of it while I'm there).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 25, 2012, 11:40:43 AM
Quote from: CL on July 25, 2012, 03:01:28 AM
I wonder where that state-name I-15 shield is that appears at 0:26.

everyone seems to wonder about that one!

it's at one of those public-private partnership rest-area/gas station combos (god DAMN, is there a less clumsy way of describing that thing?).  I believe it is just south of I-70.

Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: kphoger on July 25, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 link=topic=4045.msg163779#msg163779
one of those public-private partnership rest-area/gas station combos (god DAMN, is there a less clumsy way of describing that thing?). 

Service area
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on August 10, 2012, 01:09:48 PM
Really quick update:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8429%2F7753764310_0ea1323f78_z.jpg&hash=577b4fededdac11865105fb27e8b048287b21020) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753764310/)
Throwback shields (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753764310/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

I wouldn't even be able to imagine six months ago that Utah would be seeing the proliferation of state-named shields. Like really.
(Complete with poor sign placement.)


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8423%2F7753768812_2a0a972cc1_z.jpg&hash=92c0304816b141cf57cc9370055d902c3248a2c9) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753768812/)
How all state highway shields in Utah should look (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753768812/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

The caption of this image says it all. It seems that whoever installs state-named shields will install these state highway shields (the above two images are part of the same resurfacing project on 3300 South).


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Throwback shield (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753779686/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Close-up of already posted image.


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Overhead signs atop Interstate 15 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7707258356/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

These BGSs were installed in 2009. Note the unorthodox manner that they abbreviate "North." The old UDOT standard was "No." (e.g., 600 No., 2300 No.), but in the last few years they've been left unabbreviated.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: national highway 1 on August 10, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: CL on August 10, 2012, 01:09:48 PM
Really quick update:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8429%2F7753764310_0ea1323f78_z.jpg&hash=577b4fededdac11865105fb27e8b048287b21020) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753764310/)
Throwback shields (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753764310/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

I wouldn't even be able to imagine six months ago that Utah would be seeing the proliferation of state-named shields. Like really.
(Complete with poor sign placement.)
What is that '228, 33' flag sign in front of the I-215 shields for?  :hmmm:


Quote from: CL on August 10, 2012, 01:09:48 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8423%2F7753768812_2a0a972cc1_z.jpg&hash=92c0304816b141cf57cc9370055d902c3248a2c9) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753768812/)
How all state highway shields in Utah should look (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7753768812/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

Close-up of already posted image.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8427%2F7707258356_48cea16f09_z.jpg&hash=be4359120db9d3955811d08e936e1b729ad31595) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7707258356/)
Overhead signs atop Interstate 15 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/countylemonade/7707258356/) by CountyLemonade (http://www.flickr.com/people/countylemonade/), on Flickr

These BGSs were installed in 2009. Note the unorthodox manner that they abbreviate "North." The old UDOT standard was "No." (e.g., 600 No., 2300 No.), but in the last few years they've been left unabbreviated.
Glad to see all these 'compromise' shields popping up all over Utah, even making their way to BGSes. Great work, CL!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on August 11, 2012, 01:28:31 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on August 10, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
What is that '228, 33' flag sign in front of the I-215 shields for?  :hmmm:

That is Utah Transit Authority signage for routes 33 and 228. The 33 will be turning right; the 228, left.

Quote from: national highway 1 on August 10, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
Glad to see all these 'compromise' shields popping up all over Utah, even making their way to BGSes. Great work, CL!

Actually, the beehive on that BGS is an early-2000s variant. You can tell by the humps of the beehive, as well as the opening of the beehive. Like with standalone state highway shields, beehives on BGSs vary between early-2000s and compromise design. The numerals on BGSs, however, are always series-D, shield variant notwithstanding.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on September 02, 2012, 01:36:15 AM
These are great to see! Thank you CL and Rover for sharing these. I will be circling back to updating the AARoads Utah pages one of these days, probably once I get back to working through the Wyoming backlog. I definitely have some good stuff to add from Utah, especially along US 189 and US 191.

Now I need to get back to see some state-named shields, none of which were in place during my last visit in 2011.

Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on November 22, 2012, 02:29:48 PM
Quote from: andy3175 on September 02, 2012, 01:36:15 AM
These are great to see! Thank you CL and Rover for sharing these. I will be circling back to updating the AARoads Utah pages one of these days, probably once I get back to working through the Wyoming backlog. I definitely have some good stuff to add from Utah, especially along US 189 and US 191.

Now I need to get back to see some state-named shields, none of which were in place during my last visit in 2011.

Regards,
Andy

Can't wait! Post them when you're ready.

I don't have photos, but I have a couple major updates to report.

In Brigham City, as the US-89/91/UT-13 intersection has been worked on, there are now almost exclusively 36' x 36' shields, even UT-13. They're all the newer design, but I'm pretty sure they're not the compromise design. All the I-15 and I-84 signs are also big, and they, too, are state-named.

The other major change is on the I-15/US-50 concurrency. With UDOT working on I-15/US-50 over Scipio Summit, new signs were also put up. And...US-50 is now (mostly) signed along this stretch!

As far as SB I-15/WB US-50 is concerned, only the first SB I-15 sign after the Scipio exit (Exit 188) lacks a US-50 reassurance shield (likely because it wasn't in the work zone, I presume). Both routes are signed after the Scipio Summit exit (Exit 184), and there are signs for both routes NB/EB after the Exit 178 (got a quick glance). I'm not sure about NB I-15/EB US-50 after Exit 184 (Thanksgiving traffic + not expecting anything). At Exit 178, there are now US-50 signs directing US-50 motorists onto NB I-15 as well.

Unfortunately, the only bad news is that the I-15 shields, as far as I could tell, were not state-named.

I'll try to snap some photos on my way back up.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on November 26, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
Here are some fresh photos from Millard County. Alas, US-50 is signed for the most part along I-15:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F82641081.jpg&hash=9456ee5238de9619e7af93cde1e6f0711b43c6dc)
Looking west from a frontage road that ends at this interchange. Interesting to see the "East" placard underneath the US-50 shield. US-50 continues westward straight ahead towards Holden, as the sign indicates.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F82641082.jpg&hash=972cabd204f502b5554d793d94fab59a3d522094)
Assembly for EB US-50. The assembly above is roughly to the left.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F82641083.jpg&hash=612e4b9ef1206102a9847c4a460ff8aaac0e1db3)
First NB I-15/EB US-50 reassurance shields after US-50 joins I-15. I liked the reflection it made on my vehicle's hood, so I kept that on this photo.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F82641084.jpg&hash=04825f1914051f2e4d95c4b412fdf725cb10bec9)
A further cropped version of the above image, emphasizing the shields.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F82641086.jpg&hash=1b1c39239cfb11364aedd797d4d3fb4b9ba6a7be)
Assembly on NB-15/EB US-50 after the Scipio Summit exit (Exit 184).

Like I said before, the I-15 SB/US-50 WB reassurance shields after Exit 184 are signed just like the two I-15 NB/US-50 EB (except for the appropriate placards), and the first SB I-15 shield after Exit 188 (where WB US-50 joins) is still solo. There are no US-50 shields at Exit 184 from what I could see, either, but that's likely because the old shields weren't replaced (as with the SB I-15 sign at Scipio). I-15/US-50 went from being among the worst-signed concurrencies in Utah to being among the best.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on November 26, 2012, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on November 26, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
I-15/US-50 went from being among the worst-signed concurrencies in Utah to being among the best.

Utah also went from being among the worst places for non-neutered shields to just a subpar place for finding non-neutered shields. So we're definitely making progress on multiple fronts.

The I-15 reconstruction project in Utah County is just about to wrap up. Maybe I'll devote a day of my winter break to taking photos of the finished product.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: xonhulu on November 26, 2012, 08:36:52 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on November 26, 2012, 07:00:26 PM
I-15/US-50 went from being among the worst-signed concurrencies in Utah to being among the best.

Thoughts?

Great photos and great news!

You said awhile ago that you met with a UDOT official on the matter of signing concurrencies, and that he'd look into the matter of signing them better, right?  So if you had some influence on these new US 50 signs, good for you!

Signing US 50 along I-70 will be an even tougher nut to crack.  The last time I drove it (in 2010) there was some US 50 signage along the freeway a little ways east of Salina:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS50I70Salina2.jpg%3Ft%3D1353977581&hash=3e45dc342a7ec8d4f182c974d0f8de40638c4217)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS50I70Salina1.jpg%3Ft%3D1353977168&hash=ee16b563f1c3d47adee63a4edc822eedf31db727)

Along westbound I-70, too:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS50I70Salina4.jpg%3Ft%3D1353977107&hash=54d83a523d86e9d8bb781b8bea4e2876dd74d294)

It's even signed at the on-ramps in some locations:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS50I70Salina3.jpg%3Ft%3D1353977481&hash=9e66f68e82a4d749bcdd7fc48e2c85f0895a71e2)

If I recall, the last mention of US 50 is at the interchange for UT 72, about 35 miles east of Salina:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS50I70FremontJct1.jpg&hash=8f9136bf18ac5d296403ca16e805072914adc98b)

After that, I saw no more mention of US 50 for the rest of Utah, save for this assembly along the westbound business loop in Green River:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS6-50-191I-70GreenRiver.jpg%3Ft%3D1272632227&hash=599a8d70679220d28325212d6995fca2fa51ff7e)

If I recall correctly, US 6 and US 191 weren't really signed very much along their concurrencies with I-70, either, although I think I saw them in a couple places where 50 wasn't mentioned.

Anyway, keep the news and photos coming.  It's great to see some ignored US Routes getting at least some of their due on these multiplexes.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: nexus73 on November 27, 2012, 02:54:25 PM
Quote

Utah also went from being among the worst places for non-neutered shields to just a subpar place for finding non-neutered shields. So we're definitely making progress on multiple fronts.

The I-15 reconstruction project in Utah County is just about to wrap up. Maybe I'll devote a day of my winter break to taking photos of the finished product.

Am I ever looking forward to seeing those pix as well as hearing your impressions of how the newly redone I-15 is for driving.

Rick
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 07, 2013, 10:39:15 AM
I'm planning on driving (going back to school), and then snapping some pictures in Panguitch. When I drove through on the way down here for the holidays, new green signs were placed up at the US-89/UT-143 junction. There's an interesting thing they did there, but I'll wait to post it.

I also have some pictures of new signage at the US-89/UT-12 junction from back in September.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 08, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
OK, here's some rather random pictures from the last few months. I'll start off with the US-89/UT-71 conundrum, with little comments (for now):

UT-71 East after getting off NB I-15 at Exit 291:
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US-89 should be signed here, but really isn't.

US-89/UT-71 Split after Michigan Left:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468959.jpg&hash=2849e97dd30e6f7cdf5bebba2c654116b73d1d99)
Traffic on northbound US-89 goes through a Michigan Left; this picture is on the street to the south of the route split.

Southbound US-89 before joining UT-71:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468962.jpg&hash=cadfc95974bd461fc2a6f6fceb41fec3d4572536)

Northbound US-89 Michigan Left:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468963.jpg&hash=04cb03e413c5cae6fec32f2f428260926474a1e7)
A friendly sign showing northbound US-89 traffic on how to stay on the route and get to State Street.

UT-12 and the End of the Mt. Carmel Scenic Byway:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468955.jpg&hash=2ef6a536122828b27bb66082bd7f7f2b3856fcd4)

Destination Points Sign at US-89/UT-12 Junction:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468956.jpg&hash=35bd9535a9f7ec1f4b0ee4716b4b27e46575fd69)

US-89/UT-12 Junction Signage:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468958.jpg&hash=b6ea2614dc0cc2326f4a32965a882a60c709c3eb)

UT-85 Junction Advance Signage:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468447.jpg&hash=608ff578f36e474dc868eca3eb1fa9f7877305ba)

"Ends" US-89 Sign at UT-85 Junction:
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I really don't like how UDOT says that US-89 "Ends" here. Why not either run the routes concurrent or end UT-85 here?

More photos coming soon...
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 08, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
Some miscellaneous signage:

Older UT-54 Sign on I-15:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468446.jpg&hash=192b5dc4be56743458b73bd5cff6cd6e7cb4cf93)

I-70/US-89/US-50 signs in Salina:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468445.jpg&hash=093b8d74d78d7650f479e4ec4b1008a9fcafa940)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468442.jpg&hash=9eaedd948743f3b8c5accbd017139051c99cff55)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84468439.jpg&hash=fa6188d0208cecaf91ae1b681f009e6136b50693)

UT-118 BGS from I-70/US-89:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F84468378.jpg&hash=12738e58cc38e5b6c7048f0db2d0466f6b7cbd3b)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 08, 2013, 05:04:25 PM
And finally, the new Panguitch signage:

NB US-89 at UT-143:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F84467832.jpg&hash=f782d49880629b071318bab2a9ffeef67765ca11)

NB Close-up of Shields:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84467833.jpg&hash=c874ffbb464d6beedd4f7350f1043e7822ed6acc)

SB US-89 at UT-143:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F84467836.jpg&hash=fe1744f09f0d6292008e19ed8a5f71fd77209d71)

SB Close-up of Shields:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F84467837.jpg&hash=4440f29828dc0be755df809c1a9170d7b106d2d4)

I really can't understand why the US-89 shields are not centered or outlined. I'm not sure what to think of calling UT-143 a north-south route, as by the time it gets to Brian Head, it's turned roughly 180 degrees.

Thoughts on any of the signs? Sorry for not much detail, but that's a lot of photos, even for me. :P
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 08, 2013, 06:19:17 PM
that corner in Salina was the site of the last state-named shield in Utah before the batch of new ones.  it was on the only leg of a four-way junction that was not a state highway.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on January 08, 2013, 11:54:19 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on January 08, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
"Ends" US-89 Sign at UT-85 Junction:
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I really don't like how UDOT says that US-89 "Ends" here. Why not either run the routes concurrent or end UT-85 here?

Especially absurd considering the first reassurance shields on northbound I-15 after SR-85 acknowledge the US-89 concurrency.

I also want to take the opportunity to once more show the difference between early-2000s spec (first photo) and 2011-spec (second):

Quote from: Rover_0 on January 08, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
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Quote from: Rover_0 on January 08, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 31, 2013, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: CL on June 14, 2012, 03:28:02 AM
Anyone who has traversed Southern Parkway (SR-7) in St. George knows that it has piss-poor signage. I mean, no reassurance shields anywhere. (Actually, no standalone SR-7 shield even exists.) No mileage signs. One exit doesn't even have signage to denote itself. Well, UDOT just put out a signage contract...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8024%2F7185856783_041c9c7418_c.jpg&hash=0a6b3cb9795d40160a631108b22b84c85de80752)

Astragalus Dr is the one that lacks any signage whatsoever for its exit on Southern Parkway. This will be rectified soon, although I hope the arrow on the Astragalus Dr exit sign will be fixed so that it's properly tapered. Plenty of extra signage guiding the way to I-15, too.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7234%2F7371088514_86211cbe00_c.jpg&hash=309c94cb31e61abb78868a991fea1a065158c0ea)

This is the Desert Canyons Pkwy exit, which I guess will be opening soon. Situated between the River Rd and Airport Pkwy exits, this exit remained closed as the mainline freeway opened in 2010. SR-7 shields abound. Don't like the signs that read "PARKWAY ENTRANCE." A freeway is a freeway is a freeway. It's the Southern Parkway freeway, not the Southern Parkway parkway.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7088%2F7371087914_e7f5860cc3_c.jpg&hash=8d3daa4b9352366f30897593155139b15e215927)

This page reveals that the exit after Airport Pkwy (which is the temporary northern terminus of SR-7 right now) will be Warner Valley Rd, some three-and-a-half miles north of Airport Pkwy. Not sure when the next stretch of SR-7 will open, but progress is being made.

Sorry for the lack of photos. I don't think I'll be venturing anywhere near St. George for the next few months.

Out of curiosity, are these posted on the UDOT website anywhere? Where did you find these?

Also, I've stumbled onto (preliminary) bids (http://www.udot.utah.gov/main/f?p=100:pg::::1:T,V:318) for the next two sections of SR-7--segments 3A and 4A. (http://www.udot.utah.gov/southernparkway/images/6836_Southern%20Parkway_Overall-Expo_reduced.pdf)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on January 31, 2013, 08:02:13 PM
^

That bid was on Project Explorer (http://eprpw.dot.utah.gov/applets-production/ProjectExplorer/ProjectExplorer.asp) back in June.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: corco on April 14, 2013, 11:08:41 PM
Bumped into this on SR-13 today- only state name I-84 shield I know of (there is a second one identical to this from the other direction at this junction)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corcohighways.org%2F84utahstatename.jpg&hash=e1398b7bc23a87fda28eddb5b034b2f084900af1)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on April 21, 2013, 10:08:40 PM
Looks almost as if some guerrilla roadgeek affixed that "UTAH" to the shield. That's an older spec sign.

Several more installations of non-neutered shields have been installed in the last year. Utah has fully made the shift from state with absolutely no non-neutered shields to a state with a good number of state-name signs. If one were to have told me that three years ago I would have called him a fool of the highest degree.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: texaskdog on April 22, 2013, 10:22:59 AM
I really love being in Texas but would have to say Utah is my favorite state to visit.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 22, 2013, 10:28:24 AM
Quote from: CL on April 21, 2013, 10:08:40 PM
Looks almost as if some guerrilla roadgeek affixed that "UTAH" to the shield. That's an older spec sign.

plus it is off-center and rotated diagonally.

Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on May 28, 2013, 02:59:44 PM
I have a few pictures from Brigham City showing the new signs that were installed last summer. Both I-15 and I-84 shields are state-named.

I also caught a glance of a newer state-named I-70 shield along its concurrency with US-89. The numbers appeared to be Series C (I prefer D), but the state name was there and the shield was new.

As I'm down here in Kanab for the week, I'll snap some pictures of the newly built US-89 through town. As some streetlights have been replaced, the signs holding them are currently not up. I'm also going to see if there are any replacements on the way, as well.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on May 30, 2013, 02:07:42 PM
Here's some pictures from Logan and Brigham City:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073318.jpg&hash=d2065bf696127b736c4acedb14f10b55ec782cdd)
UT-252 Construction shield. Apparently there are some UT-252 3-digit shields, but like most (all?) UT-175 shields (in Salt Lake County), they have all that space and decide to use Series B digits. Maybe these were made at about the same time as the regular, 2-digit shields (also about the time that UT-175 came about), as the year appears more tacked on and the signs show some regular use (but I could be wrong). What's strangest about the route the sign is made for is US-91 (below the UT-252 shield), yet it says "East." Also, the font used is hideous--a cheap Hevetica (sp?). Also, the sign is turned away from eastbound UT-30 traffic.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073402.jpg&hash=6ad70a71a135084232a0956d0832b4b0bcaad363)
At least the last construction shield got the shield right--this one suffers from US/SR confusion. But it is a construction sign, so it shouldn't be up very long.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073418.jpg&hash=380c939ffcb9fc3a8f1d33dc0d20fe2af68921a4)
The UT-252 shield is falling off and showing a US-91 shield. You can't see the numbers, but they are again the Hevetica font.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073425.jpg&hash=42f196c7bf77aa0a580827d92d700c13a7c28074)
Another US/SR confusion shield--this time it's UT-30. This is the same font as the US-91 and "US"-252 construction shields. Well, at least this shield gives some fictional scenarios (like a US-230 from US-30 in Wyoming to I-15 at Riverside or even I-80 in Nevada). :P

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073430.jpg&hash=3d83097ce5fb10dddefc23d50e00a186d00a0290)
This assembly remains virtually unchanged--except that the simple double-arrow beneath the US-91 shield has now been replaced by a double-arrow "T." I have no idea why the old sign was replaced, as the stub beneath the arrow implies that you're already on the route (which would be appropriate if it were beneath the US-89 and UT-30 shields and was a left turn). I don't know if I've ever seen such an arrow before, either.

Now, on to Brigham City...a car caught on fire (turning from NB US-91 to NB UT-13) and slowed traffic (no one was hurt there and officers were quick to get to the scene), so that explains the smoke.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073311.jpg&hash=952d70db794752f2844befb598fd53f01a1ee67b)
New Brigham City US-89 and UT-13 Shields. These are 36x36.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073434.jpg&hash=25bdd7fe27dc4db9f853ef5417ecfe625327c672)
Distant picture of newer (as of last year) I-15/84 shields. You can barely make it out, but there is "UTAH" on both. You can also see the US-91/I-15/84 assembly to the right, and I have a picture of that, too.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073446.jpg&hash=8a49a9c0841000a6b6570be5848800d38937a9d2)
Here's northbound UT-13 with newer BL-15/84 shields. All these are 36x36.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073450.jpg&hash=4bcb422c2f631379cf06a249bfddd56f3b5fb29f)
There's now an END UT-13 shield at its south end. Also, it's 36x36.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91073456.jpg&hash=1dcc840f72fd9fe08b598f06d9f86f621a359eab)
And finally, we have the WEST US-91, TO I-15/84 shields. Same sizes as all the other Brihgam City shields, and the I-15/84 shields are state-named.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 30, 2013, 02:11:45 PM
hooray for Utah state name!  I wonder if any of the, ahem, ninja ones survive.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on May 31, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
It warms my heart that this thread is still kept active. Thanks, Rover.

Just a thought that I have about the good old 2011-spec/compromise (whatever I used to call it) shield:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7247%2F7753775616_8db5f878b8_c.jpg&hash=93b99687addbf0a88737d26d1a19dc6c431c77e9)

^ Okay. Very decent looking shields, correct? Now let's see how they look on standalone assemblies.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6096%2F6326886697_bfb2313bb3_z.jpg&hash=c6a2dae3408e17d86dc9165c20408cfa8306119c)

^ Bravo, whoever designed this. Very aesthetically pleasing. Very disappointed that even at this point (and what is it? June 2013 basically?) we can't get one single consistent shield to be installed, let alone this stellar one.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F91073450.jpg&hash=93da0f7b5a1d3f4911c28f03e74d31c27cbe8253)

^ And here's Rover's photo. It looks nowhere near as good. What's different here? Ignore the fact that the numerals are too small. The shield itself is the same design (not the "early 2000s-spec" design (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5138/5417831850_1cdcd68fee_b.jpg)).
Welp. It's the beehive. It's oversized. It stretches to the very edge of the shield. And it therefore looks disproportionate and goofy.

Just a pet peeve of mine. Sigh. . .
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 06, 2013, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: CL on May 31, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
It warms my heart that this thread is still kept active. Thanks, Rover.

Thanks!

Here are some more...

You can't see too closely (hence its size), but there is the new state-named I-70 shield. I should've pulled over:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F91415089.jpg&hash=a206ea83e3cdac0fe133480b52725d91d59fb801)


I'd figure I'd snap some pictures of Utah's only business spur, BS-70, in Salina, and...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F91415080.jpg&hash=296741d4ef81ce5b7d14e348f8ff671e682a7477)
...suffice to say, this is the only shield that gets the right route type (spur, instead of loop) on the route.

Here's the other two mis-labeled shields:

(Northbound)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91415082.jpg&hash=27b30e31e452eac832a0dd4ffc28191e33c24476)

(Southbound)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91415083.jpg&hash=476f941c2ce3cd8af4070f78ffd12d932bfdbdeb)
BTW, where does the Salina BS-70 end? At the US-89/50 junction, or does it jog west with US-50 to UT-24 or north with US-89 a bit?



After mistakenly getting off I-15 onto UT-48 instead of I-215, I decided to take a few pictures of the eastern terminus of UT-48:

END UT-48 East:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91415084.jpg&hash=8f7813f7b64dc2c6d390cb1e6f88839dacb367ef)

Looking south on US-89 (State St.):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91415085.jpg&hash=e3088ff1fde862ef8cfe0acf83dd8bac10212ffd)

First UT-48 West shield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91415086.jpg&hash=df5e66d6e928f13001b9b724755a4ca0d568d7c3)

Also, some I-215 shields:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91415087.jpg&hash=212cab90b35985bf309c190fbd3d4d68bfe8b855)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F91415088.jpg&hash=06dbcb938922d84a12d1b761399d3f3929b76703)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on July 09, 2013, 03:04:15 PM
Here's just a couple from my most recent trip to Kanab:

The sign at the junction of US-89 and US-89A (100 E. and 300 S.) has been returned, this time on a "goal-post" pole:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F92899031.jpg&hash=6db498099fd368aef81803a68966376c4240e2c8)
For those who aren't aware, it was originally posted directly to the streetlight pole (http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/55277232.jpg), must have got hit by a larger truck (hence the bent corner), and was out of commission for a couple of years. Maybe this means that the southbound reassurance shields for US-89 and US-89A will be making a comeback, right?

And one on SB US-89 approaching the junction of UT-28 at the north end of Gunnison:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F92899004.jpg&hash=85c9f31ca2a7af2be712e23fd12ac5bd946c8980)
Both shields appear to be older ones, possibly from this setup (http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/55274827.jpg).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on July 12, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
I have another couple from the Logan area:

The arrow has been replaced on the SB US-89/WB UT-30 approach to US-91. Looks the way it should (minus directional placards, of course).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F93051057.jpg&hash=97b40531a7d807c71ea162cf38015378fc1d4ebd)

Here's an intriguing development...we have solo, non BGS double-outline US shields (though they're not cutout), on US-89/91 heading south out of Logan (just after the UT-165 split):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F93051058.jpg&hash=2ac3061fd3a433e88938b8a9c7e5c345fb128b13)
Not only do I not mind this, I'd actually welcome it. The double-outline with no "US" could become something of a Utah thing (now we just need cutouts!).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Ian on July 13, 2013, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on July 12, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
Here's an intriguing development...we have solo, non BGS double-outline US shields (though they're not cutout), on US-89/91 heading south out of Logan (just after the UT-165 split):

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Not only do I not mind this, I'd actually welcome it. The double-outline with no "US" could become something of a Utah thing (now we just need cutouts!).

Agreed, I like those! I wouldn't mind that becoming the new standard everywhere.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on July 15, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
Quote from: Rover_0 on July 12, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F93051058.jpg&hash=2ac3061fd3a433e88938b8a9c7e5c345fb128b13)
Not only do I not mind this, I'd actually welcome it. The double-outline with no "US" could become something of a Utah thing (now we just need cutouts!).

Wow! That's unique. Initially I was a little underwhelmed by this new design (which derives from this BGS shield variant (http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6213/6317496494_4051a5947c_b.jpg) [other instance (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3308/5815568554_a89f0138d8_b.jpg)] that is occasionally used). But I quite like it now. For real. If we're gonna have shields like this (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5272/7169043990_20fc218120_b.jpg) and this (http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6096/6326886697_bfb2313bb3_z.jpg) and this (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/medium/91415086.jpg) then I say we take the plunge and adopt that style of U.S. highway shields as well.

The problem, of course, is that Utah cannot make up its mind and uses several shield variants simultaneously. Why, signage gods? Why?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on July 19, 2013, 04:35:43 PM
Quote from: CL on May 31, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
Just a thought that I have about the good old 2011-spec/compromise (whatever I used to call it) shield:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7247%2F7753775616_8db5f878b8_c.jpg&hash=93b99687addbf0a88737d26d1a19dc6c431c77e9)

^ Okay. Very decent looking shields, correct? Now let's see how they look on standalone assemblies.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm7.staticflickr.com%2F6096%2F6326886697_bfb2313bb3_z.jpg&hash=c6a2dae3408e17d86dc9165c20408cfa8306119c)

^ Bravo, whoever designed this. Very aesthetically pleasing. Very disappointed that even at this point (and what is it? June 2013 basically?) we can't get one single consistent shield to be installed, let alone this stellar one.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F91073450.jpg&hash=93da0f7b5a1d3f4911c28f03e74d31c27cbe8253)

^ And here's Rover's photo. It looks nowhere near as good. What's different here? Ignore the fact that the numerals are too small. The shield itself is the same design (not the "early 2000s-spec" design (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5138/5417831850_1cdcd68fee_b.jpg)).
Welp. It's the beehive. It's oversized. It stretches to the very edge of the shield. And it therefore looks disproportionate and goofy.

Just a pet peeve of mine. Sigh. . .

You know what? The whole "going out to the edge" beehive is growing on me. Yes, the numerals are too small on the UT-13 shield, but  that design is about as close to a cutout Utah beehive as we'll get. Now if only they could make the corners straight on the bottom--the rounded bottoms are what bugs me the most. Most BGSs (including the 71/152 sign) have tiny little corners, why can't the state shields have them, too?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Desert Man on July 19, 2013, 08:33:03 PM
This thread is great! :-) Lots of scenery behind the road signage, as Utah is a beautiful state I had been in a few times myself. I had a glimpse of the photo shown a now-gone road sign of US routes 6 and 50 on I-15 between Payson and Spanish Fork. Any more pics of road signage in the southern Utah valley? Historically, US routes 89 and 91 crossed these towns on their way to Provo, Orem and Salt Lake City.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on August 14, 2013, 08:23:11 PM
Some more Logan updates...there's now more of those "to the edge" SR-30 shields:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660224.jpg&hash=99cd92e018ef89edf923099fc2a1eea346089484)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660238.jpg&hash=95d85027cd323d47bbde7674a892bae29557e003)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660242.jpg&hash=d72e5eeb3e2669b57d01bf5d40ea30d44b809235)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660255.jpg&hash=0a5b9eab0f7b2ef43b61e6c99c239ef9721d7cfb)

And a new assembly to the south of the US-89/91/SR-30 junction:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660227.jpg&hash=ef6887c7738fd0e33f2b30e3e1c5659fa6c31f88)

Problem is now, that street sign lies directly in front of the assembly:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660231.jpg&hash=610113cf6acf10f0f8d58b78bc3bb7dec5d5e14c)

And SR-30 still isn't signed on US-89 after the split:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660258.jpg&hash=e14713300f78ac1a7333a651af9dc67dff3c1638)

Nor on the SB US-91 approach:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660252.jpg&hash=e755730b21cfae09499d01879687efc73da6f666)

Nor on NB US-89/91/(EB SR-30):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660234.jpg&hash=0202e1160709908928e79d2fdd95c02cfc3c9f9f)

And the reassurance/junction signage on SB US-89/91/(WB SR-30) hasn't been updated, either:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F94660245.jpg&hash=bae5926b6a121774c20d3d15c882e3c6480b4d5b)

That makes me wonder if further updates are coming.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on August 14, 2013, 10:45:10 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a double-border '70 spec shield on a black background.  closest I've seen is the early 60s Ohio standard.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/OH/OH19640251i1.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on August 27, 2013, 03:18:52 PM
Some more random routes:

UT-120 (BL-70) and some UT-118 in Richfield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F95322729.jpg&hash=f2214a449bc78352302940138692667c7a396024)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F95322730.jpg&hash=82c79f78e3a4775addffdb626cd92a4272883459)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F95322734.jpg&hash=eeeec8391820b8d13f1995871afc158c570301f9)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F95322763.jpg&hash=1f98cf29e92f22a4682a2d0eef5f882c7634e385)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F95322764.jpg&hash=69a362dac61dd3b2f047995d020cd4888d1ca31a)

I really hope that someday Utah will take the plunge and sign state route concurrencies. Also, navigation through Richfield would be made a lot clearer if some BL-70 shields were put up.

BS-70, US-89 near Salina:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F95322737.jpg&hash=c6d1e5c5d9bec730eca20a45b7262d6d92cfe177)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F95322742.jpg&hash=3117cc8a6ecac989f7856be5a2fdedc8e51620f7)

They've got it right on the BSG's (Spur, not Loop), so why didn't they on the spur route itself?

UT-54 near Mona:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F95322751.jpg&hash=c3f8de4e26dbb5c2e42e7be19af3a3d85d8cc20f)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Fmedium%2F95322755.jpg&hash=2efc5b987b101d03343843303cf67cff12b7afb2)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: nexus73 on August 27, 2013, 03:26:51 PM
I really like the "new" US route marker with the black border!  Is this something that will be coming to other states or is it just an Utah deal?

Rick
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on August 27, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on August 27, 2013, 03:26:51 PM
I really like the "new" US route marker with the black border!  Is this something that will be coming to other states or is it just an Utah deal?

Rick

It seems to be more of a Utah thing, probably caused by contractors. While most contractor-related design differences are sub-par, they've stumbled onto something great here.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: xonhulu on August 27, 2013, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on August 27, 2013, 03:18:52 PM

BS-70, US-89 near Salina:

They've got it right on the BSG's (Spur, not Loop), so why didn't they on the spur route itself?


So this shield is no longer up?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FInterstate%2520Routes%2FI70BSSalina1_zpsa957f459.jpg%3Ft%3D1377561696&hash=06323f83e649c6b752e702bf0d87e3970cb8c5a9)

I'm not sure exactly where it was located, but I took the picture in 2006.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on August 27, 2013, 10:11:58 PM
Quote from: xonhulu on August 27, 2013, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on August 27, 2013, 03:18:52 PM

BS-70, US-89 near Salina:

They've got it right on the BSG's (Spur, not Loop), so why didn't they on the spur route itself?


So this shield is no longer up?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FInterstate%2520Routes%2FI70BSSalina1_zpsa957f459.jpg%3Ft%3D1377561696&hash=06323f83e649c6b752e702bf0d87e3970cb8c5a9)

I'm not sure exactly where it was located, but I took the picture in 2006.

Actually, I lied a little...that's about the only proper "Business Spur 70" sign not on a BGS. I can't remember where it is, exactly, either, though I'm pretty sure it's on the southbound side.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on August 28, 2013, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on August 27, 2013, 03:18:52 PM
UT-120 (BL-70) and some UT-118 in Richfield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F95322729.jpg&hash=f2214a449bc78352302940138692667c7a396024)

Georgia?

Region 4 by far has the worst adherence to signage standards in the state.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: elsmere241 on August 28, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on August 27, 2013, 10:11:58 PM

Actually, I lied a little...that's about the only proper "Business Spur 70" sign not on a BGS. I can't remember where it is, exactly, either, though I'm pretty sure it's on the southbound side.

Let's see - I remember seeing an end sign for that spur at Main and State in Salina in 1996, where US 50 and US 89 split.  I don't know if I remember the wrong intersection, but StreetView doesn't show one there now.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on August 28, 2013, 05:48:58 PM
Quote from: CL on August 28, 2013, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on August 27, 2013, 03:18:52 PM
UT-120 (BL-70) and some UT-118 in Richfield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2F1920x1280%2F95322729.jpg&hash=f2214a449bc78352302940138692667c7a396024)

Georgia?

Region 4 by far has the worst adherence to signage standards in the state.

I don't follow the "Georgia" comment, but the mismatched cases along with the 120 that rides a little too high are what make this BGS bad.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: J N Winkler on August 28, 2013, 06:54:55 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on August 28, 2013, 05:48:58 PMI don't follow the "Georgia" comment, but the mismatched cases along with the 120 that rides a little too high are what make this BGS bad.

What CL means is that the primary destination legend is in Series D, not Series E Modified, and so matches a now-abandoned Georgia DOT standard for freeway guide signs.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Scott5114 on August 29, 2013, 04:32:54 AM
Quote from: Rover_0 on July 19, 2013, 04:35:43 PM
Now if only they could make the corners straight on the bottom--the rounded bottoms are what bugs me the most. Most BGSs (including the 71/152 sign) have tiny little corners, why can't the state shields have them, too?

Road signs have rounded corners to protect highway workers from sharp edges. BGSes don't need them because they are usually put up by crane.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on August 29, 2013, 04:48:55 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on August 28, 2013, 05:48:58 PM
I don't follow the "Georgia" comment, but the mismatched cases along with the 120 that rides a little too high are what make this BGS bad.

Don't forget the "NORTH" which is blatantly off-center.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: NE2 on August 29, 2013, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: CL on August 29, 2013, 04:48:55 PM
Don't forget the "NORTH" which is blatantly off-center.
"Sorry guys, we need a bigger sign with more green space just so the direction can be exactly centered above the shield."
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: J N Winkler on August 29, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 29, 2013, 05:20:01 PM"Sorry guys, we need a bigger sign with more green space just so the direction can be exactly centered above the shield."

Actually, there is plenty of room to center "NORTH" above the SR 120 shield since "Richfield" is the width control and there is some excess room to the left of the Business I-70 shield.

There would be even more room if Utah DOT had done a properly professional job on this sign and used Series E Modified for "Richfield" instead of Series D, thus gaining about 25% more legibility.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on November 29, 2013, 01:41:47 AM
In the following months, I've moved back to my hometown Kanab, and in that time I've been able to make it over to St. George and see the new UT-7 shields along the Southern Parkway. I haven't been able to snap pictures, but as soon as I do, I'll post them here.

They are the "out-to-the-border" variety and are all 24x24. Almost all (if not all) westbound shields have an accompanying "TO I-15" shield.* The road itself is still only open to the airport, but work has been done on it past the exit. I'm not sure if it will only initially be 2-lanes or what, but work is continuing, albeit slowly.

There's also some newer UT-59 shields in Hurricane and new BSGs in St. George. I also have some pictures from my trip down, which I'll post soon.


*Which, if I had any say, would be helped by simply putting "Future I-x15" shields on. :spin:
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: mass_citizen on November 30, 2013, 02:19:32 AM
interesting, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on November 30, 2013, 03:57:33 AM
Thanks, Rover. Much appreciated as always.

I thought I'd go back to some of my favorite photos from my state archives collection (through which I haven't browsed in a long time) and post some images that I haven't shared on this thread.

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Newly minted interchange between US-40 (cosigned with I-80 in this photo) and SR-171 (future I-415 and then I-215). Note that Wasatch Blvd was not upgraded to freeway status yet, which is why I-415 is not cosigned with SR-171.


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Same batch of photos as the above image. US-40 at the next exit. The interchange as it exists today was not yet completed, but here we have the two branches of US-40 that travel through Salt Lake.


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Wyoming—Utah border.


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Where US-91 met US-50 at Scipio. This was one of the last remaining sections of US-91 to not have been upgraded to I-15–but after the US-91 designation had been scuttled–hence the temporary designation.


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Looking east at Green River.


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During the floods of 1983.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 30, 2014, 01:02:41 AM
I've got a few new photos dating back to about November, and among them are pictures of UT-7, AKA the Southern Parkway, along its newly-opened yet unconnected segment from Sand Hollow Reservoir to Washington Dam Rd.

The connection is running a little slow, so I'll get those up as soon as I have some time.

Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 30, 2014, 01:23:17 PM
Here's some photos. UT-7 and a few others will be up soon.

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More double-outline, non-cutout US shields in the Cache Valley! This time, at the junction of UT-101 near Wellsville. Also, UT-101 gets a "threehive" shield.

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A closeup of the Wellsville assembly.

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A nice UT-68 shield at its junction with UT-173

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Different designed UT-68 shield (probably a few years older). Sigh.

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I-215 shields at the south end of the I-215/UT-68 junction.

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(Spanish Fork)
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(Benjamin)
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(Payson)
Updated signage on the I-15/US-6 concurrency. I see Mr. Bernhard followed through on his promise to make US-6 shields as big as I-15's along this stretch. It's not all perfect (spacing, not upright shields), but still, all in all, well-played, UDOT.

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New destination signage in Santaquin. Note the lowercase.

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Standalone state-named I-15 shields in Santaquin! Also, an "updated" US-6 shield!

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New BGS's for the UT-54/Mona exit at 1 mile (top) and 1/2 mile.

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Updated signage of the US-89/UT-256 junction near Redmond. Hooray for B Series on big-'ole threehives!

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Mileage sign on I-70/US-89 SW of Salina. Note the I-15 shield.

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State-named I-70 shield near the south end of the I-70/US-89 concurrency.

Stay tuned. I'll get some pictures from Green River, Price, and of course, the Southern Parkway.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2014, 02:24:42 PM
is there an intent by Utah to have neutered shields on the freeway mainline and state-named at the junctions?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 30, 2014, 04:27:21 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2014, 02:24:42 PM
is there an intent by Utah to have neutered shields on the freeway mainline and state-named at the junctions?

I dunno. There's also new signage at I-15 and UT-34 (St. George Blvd.) where standalone shields are neutered, but every BGS I-15 shield is not.

There's even a new mileage sign on UT-59 that says "Hurricane 11 [miles]/(I-15 Shield) 21 [miles]" with a non-neutered I-15 shield. The fact that UDOT signs distance to I-15 on UT-59 also supports my proposal to make the AZ-389/UT-59/UT-9 corridor--at the very least--into a MSR (prefer a US Route, and if only that route, then US-389 would suffice. That said, I prefer a US-64 or US-160 extension, but that's a story for another time.

Anyways, here's the next batch:

More from the state-named I-15 shields at Santaquin:
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And a random "nice scene" UT-23 shield at Mendon from the fall:
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Some rare eastern Utah signs, starting with UT-128 shields:
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Make no mistake, the rest of the route is scenic, but I managed to take pictures on the starkest, colorless part of the route.

US-6 WB/191 NB split from I-70/US-50 WB near Green River:
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(Before)
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(After)

White-on-Green US-6 Shield on Wellington street sign:
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Freeway-like BGS's for UT-10 and UT-55 (Business 6/191 in Price) on Super-2 Price Bypass:
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Erroneous "UT-6" shield at US-6 EB/US-89 SB split at Thistle:
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You can barely make it out (as all these eastern Utah pics were taken from moving cars), but US-6 has a classic US/SR confusion error. I let UDOT know about it but am not sure if it's been rectified yet, as I don't go that way when I go through the area.

UT-7 is now finished from I-15 to Warner Valley Rd., and with the help of Warner Valley/Washington Fields Rd. (the two are pretty much one and the same)->Washington Dam Rd. (with a little connecting stub), one can drive UT-7 from I-15 to Sand Hollow Reservoir. Sand Hollow Rd. north will take you the rest of the way from UT-7 to UT-9. The connecting segment should begin to be graded this year, and UT-7 should be complete from I-15 to Sand Hollow Reservoir by the summer of 2015 (if my guesses are right).

And now for UT-7 AKA Southern Parkway photos:
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Approaching UT-7 from Sand Hollow Rd. SB, and a scene with the "Begin UT-7" shield

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(Current) east end of UT-7

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(Current) beginning of UT-7 WB. It's not common when UDOT signs the beginning of routes.

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West UT-7 Shield near Sand Hollow Golf Course

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Road cut along UT-7 between Sand Hollow and Washington Dam, plus a scene from the Washington Dam area

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UT-7 shield off the road stub between Washington Dam Rd. and UT-7

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Beginning of the now-unconnected portion of UT-7

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Beginning of connected portion of UT-7 at Warner Valley Rd. Note the covered upper half of the directional sign and the state-named I-15 shield

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Looking down UT-7 west after western segment's beginning

Apologies for occasional poor quality because of course when I have time to take pictures the sun has to be right behind the signs. Anyways, let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: xonhulu on January 30, 2014, 07:12:31 PM
Rover_O, I remember some time ago you reported that you'd spoken to a UDOT official about properly signing US-Interstate or other concurrencies.  Have you seen any movement on that?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on January 30, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Quote from: xonhulu on January 30, 2014, 07:12:31 PM
Rover_O, I remember some time ago you reported that you'd spoken to a UDOT official about properly signing US-Interstate or other concurrencies.  Have you seen any movement on that?

There's some. While US-50 is now pretty much signed on its concurrency with I-15, as of March 2013 US-189 appears to "End" at US-40 in Heber City (no mention along I-80) and I haven't seen much in the line of US-89 along its myriad concurrencies with I-15. I also haven't seen any changes along I-70/US-6/50/191 near Green River.

I haven't been in Logan since November 2013, so I don't know if anything has changed with UT-30. Also, going through Richfield in November, I saw nothing from UT-118/120.

Just like anything else it seems, stuff like this takes time.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: texaskdog on February 23, 2014, 10:06:48 PM
I was reading the Wikipedia I-70 in Utah site about how the original roads were Utah 13 and later Utah 4. Anyone have pictures or know anything about this?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: NE2 on February 23, 2014, 10:54:43 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on February 23, 2014, 10:06:48 PM
I was reading the Wikipedia I-70 in Utah site about how the original roads were Utah 13 and later Utah 4. Anyone have pictures or know anything about this?
http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ut/us_89/
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: texaskdog on February 23, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
Cool, thanks!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on February 25, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
Some photos aren't perfect (mostly blurred), but here are some updates.

The UT-59 mileage marker, with state-named I-15 shield:
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Here's some signage of the I-15/UT-34 interchange:
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Note how BL-15 is marked E-W along with UT-34...

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...and when on the route, BL-15 is marked N-S while UT-34 retains its E-W status.

Here's a couple of the Mammoth Creek Road, between UT-14 and UT-143. I'm not sure why this isn't a state route IMO (well, I think it's a US Forest road), as it would make a perfect addition to the system:
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And the advance UT-143 junction signage:
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There's also an error "US-143" shield just to the left of the MCR/UT-143 junction. I'll have to get a snippet of that when I have some time to do so.

And I'll end with some from my weekend excursion (back) to northern Utah, with some bad news, depending on who you are:
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(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652044.jpg&hash=3f185501b796339833e5582ff11c980b7d5f2a4d)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652076.jpg&hash=b5d9f4ddac72c42bea09d9631ac05f5306acca5d)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652077.jpg&hash=cd1afc49ecbd40a7c7546c680ec5fc5972ea49c8)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652078.jpg&hash=b9b1655596e90734e87ba5c0fc7be87fcb04bd9f)
Clearview has infiltrated Utah outside of the Legacy Parkway!! I repeat, Clearview has infiltrated Utah outside of the Legacy Parkway!! Fortunately, this is the only instance I know of, and it may just be a contractor error, as the awful kerning of the second photo may imply.

Faded BL-15 shields for Fillmore. I'm about 98% certain that when these get replaced, UT-99 gets a mention (hopefully 100 does, too). Seems to be the general trend, which isn't bad:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652079.jpg&hash=a0be1ed52e06aa5829381ce4707af26884d29eca)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652081.jpg&hash=9bbd607b593f76f97ee769609858858b218c1c43)

And speaking of UT-99, here's a newer-standard shield for it:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652082.jpg&hash=a5cf890ec741420fae41c682e918fe5d5a823ba5)
The digits seem to be the right size, for a change.

That's it for now, and I'll post the rest from my trip (at Holden, Logan, and even Sandy).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: J N Winkler on February 25, 2014, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on February 25, 2014, 09:01:21 PM(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652078.jpg&hash=b9b1655596e90734e87ba5c0fc7be87fcb04bd9f)

Clearview has infiltrated Utah outside of the Legacy Parkway!! I repeat, Clearview has infiltrated Utah outside of the Legacy Parkway!! Fortunately, this is the only instance I know of, and it may just be a contractor error, as the awful kerning of the second photo may imply.

This isn't Clearview--it is mixed-case FHWA Series D.  It should not be used on a high-speed, high-capacity road as a substitute for Series E Modified, but that is another issue.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on February 25, 2014, 10:13:22 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 25, 2014, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on February 25, 2014, 09:01:21 PM(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652078.jpg&hash=b9b1655596e90734e87ba5c0fc7be87fcb04bd9f)

Clearview has infiltrated Utah outside of the Legacy Parkway!! I repeat, Clearview has infiltrated Utah outside of the Legacy Parkway!! Fortunately, this is the only instance I know of, and it may just be a contractor error, as the awful kerning of the second photo may imply.

This isn't Clearview--it is mixed-case FHWA Series D.  It should not be used on a high-speed, high-capacity road as a substitute for Series E Modified, but that is another issue.

Well, shoot. The "Meadow" sure looks a lot like Clearview. That's a relief.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on March 09, 2014, 06:12:19 PM
There and back again...I finish with some photos up to Logan and back down to Holden...

Older US-50 BGS off of I-15 at Holden:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652084.jpg&hash=ee51b66a791d7bb46327e630a3b380a3649655f5)

I-15 NB Updated Exit Advance Signage for UT-54:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652085.jpg&hash=c137c3533a8de50f26f7799b3eb00d83c2d58fe5)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652086.jpg&hash=453b74cb484ea5b096296f93dee99f887b35e1ed)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652087.jpg&hash=d324987b3c286a23ca1389bd17295bd47e96ee2e)

I-15 NB Updated US-6 Advance Signage:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652088.jpg&hash=981e887a0335b97954891e34f974158a46aed9f6)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652089.jpg&hash=f9ef6d8f4b162d68890b5cd2c7b694f800623c8e)

UT-178/Payson 800 S. Updated BGS Signage:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652090.jpg&hash=25f1796179ba27fa22459f762ab2fdbda84e0dd5)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652093.jpg&hash=250d5fbb71720e0384a89fc9a8012dc97fbfeaeb)

Also, a new center exit distance sign (or whatever the official term is)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652092.jpg&hash=497be8232ff8c8cc01f964e3e6a740416b8a8969)

Updated US-6 Shields alongside I-15:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652094.jpg&hash=afa693b75085d32b3f7e7e8983ff279253c46cec)
The US-6 shield is actually bigger than I-15's! (Although I-15's is older)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652095.jpg&hash=f9427f425252db0b772b2c0625730d694a5b59bb)

From the (now-completed) UT-252:
At 2500 N and 1000 W:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652096.jpg&hash=bde12cf65179363b3c9212afadb7acdc8f962711)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652097.jpg&hash=6f84caaf88911f18acf670cf6474ca73b2be46ec)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652098.jpg&hash=c6228f32ad75c604510b5fb6f2f973f50f1a799a)
All but the last one have way too narrow numerals. Yay for Series B!

More Series B, this time on a threehive and for a 2-digit route (UT-30):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652099.jpg&hash=f5f95bee18f16c352179f3b3322dcf7124881848)


US-89 and US-91 Shields on Separate Poles at UT-23:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652100.jpg&hash=4d583333f8d145c99b462ad20370b1a00b3f26ce)

Updated UT-90 BGS on US-89/91 at Brigham City:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652101.jpg&hash=13056c53035c733aa65c2fe58a3dd427f02258f4)
Note no exit number, here or at the split.

State-named, Series C I-15 Shield at 700 E. and 10600 S. in Sandy:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652102.jpg&hash=4cd217dcec21b39350e326ae4b4f1384a7285803)

UT-180 BGS at 500 E. in Pleasant Grove:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652103.jpg&hash=8080362575481c74f89e933fab75e11b612e1dc0)

UT-180 and Pleasant Grove Blvd. BGS's:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652104.jpg&hash=78e6f7e016e54c35d93c9db8ec80c8cd67b67801)
I wonder if there were, or are, plans for Pleasant Grove Blvd. to be part of the state highway system. Else, why all that green space?

UT-132 in East Nephi
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652105.jpg&hash=ee87b4c78e4d9729251e073ace11c00bf166a7ca)
Thought that this was a nice shot, and a nice shield.

US-50 Westbound after leaving I-15 in Holden:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652106.jpg&hash=74da75b8448bf49ad7baf4619531b317173711dd)
Again, a nice characteristic picture for US-50.

US-50 Traffic Use I-15 NB:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652107.jpg&hash=5a8ded3fffa11a0a54ade5f12a8471112c6cb347)
I didn't think this sign was here. IMO these need to be before just about any I/Non-I route concurrency.

US-50/UT-64 (TO I-15) Junction:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652108.jpg&hash=39d68296cda5031c1b6cff5f7facb18172765abb)

US-50/TO I-70
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652109.jpg&hash=23540838f0e277cae97f698fd3d2ed7460338074)
Didn't think that I-70 was signed out this far.

Holden gantry:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652110.jpg&hash=bd67c690f460f98c554aea8718e227b31e958425)
I-70 receives a second mention in Holden. Also, the sign should say: "TO North I-15" and "TO South I-15."

South UT-64, TO I-15 after US-50 Junction:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F103652111.jpg&hash=d3e8fcd1ab94c5f2f518e05d533e8b926c485af2)
Only 2 UT-64 shields that I know of. This is the only one with a directional placard (the shield on the other end lies atop a "TO US-50" shield.

And that's it for now. I plan on snapping the new UT-34/I-15 junction assemblies, as well as UT-7 along its first couple of sections. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: xcellntbuy on March 09, 2014, 08:37:37 PM
Terrific photos!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on March 10, 2014, 01:05:52 AM
Hi Rover,

It you are taking requests, then how about the business loop I-15 and I-84 in Brigham City, which is not signed from the mainline but is signed along the loop itself? I also wonder how US 6 is signed as it approaches I-15 at both connection points. Is it similar to how US 50 is signed at Scipio?

Thanks for the great pictures,
Andy
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on March 10, 2014, 04:05:49 AM
Quote from: andy3175 on March 10, 2014, 01:05:52 AM
Hi Rover,

It you are taking requests, then how about the business loop I-15 and I-84 in Brigham City, which is not signed from the mainline but is signed along the loop itself? I also wonder how US 6 is signed as it approaches I-15 at both connection points. Is it similar to how US 50 is signed at Scipio?

Thanks for the great pictures,
Andy

I'll see what I can do. Usually I take pictures I find worth showing, provided it's not too far out of my way in order to do so. You know, gas prices being what they are and such.

That said, I'm thinking about at least making the 30-mile round trip down US-6 from I-15 to the US-6/89 split to catch the erroneous "UT-6" shield and going up UT-14/Mammoth Creek Rd.*/UT-143 to US-89 at Panguitch to snag a pic of "US-143." Maybe I'll just follow US-89 all the way through Manti in order to do so, next time I head north.

*Which IMO should be a state route. Maybe UT-214?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on March 12, 2014, 12:28:04 AM
Sounds good. Thanks in advance for checking out some of the smaller state highways along and adjacent to the I-15 corridor.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on May 05, 2014, 10:09:51 PM
All right, it's been a while, but I have some pictures from Washington County:

UT-9 Reassurance Shield after UT-59 Junction:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576553.jpg&hash=fde99a1ea54d6526c7322113e61a9a548c6dd43d)

UT-18/BL-15 Shields off of Bluff St. in St. George:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576555.jpg&hash=d248cc600a975928b27c3074a9b0f754e64e61ac)

And now UT-7 (AKA Southern Parkway) shields:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576558.jpg&hash=e14daf817362094f8a98b3c4657aa9b6f1bd98b2)
The font on the "East" certainly looks different. Can anyone pinpoint it for me? Modified FHWA or even Clearview?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576561.jpg&hash=848c0f75f2ee00528dd08be899794bd35de3a5e7)
Here are the "TO I-15" Shields on WB UT-7. Unusual how TO I-15 is to the left of the UT-7 shield.

Getting off on River Rd., the River Rd. exit (Exit 3) is right on the Utah/Arizona stateline, and after noticing a sign that looks like it could contain a UT-7 shield just outside of Utah (on the far left):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576564.jpg&hash=dacdb653517d33ab2d7e4ec66b7dc19700d1a8fa)

I figured I'd take a look:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576563.jpg&hash=910644be50a491df7e13a0843070b1b3840378ee)
Nuts. Just another "TO I-15" sign. :/ IMO I'd be tempted to just call UT-7 Future I-x15 (and make Exit 2 a freeway-to-freeway interchange).

Here are a couple of the "Parkway Entrance" signs:
EB
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576567.jpg&hash=c343740eba3a52df3da054bc7b6316bbc8ea004d)

WB
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576580.jpg&hash=9235bcea3d0ccb2fa831d20239c494d806bc1f4d)

A shot of the River Rd. overpass with interchange assembly:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576568.jpg&hash=e7b5ee861ccc27b74a390aeb943c0be00be56a85)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576571.jpg&hash=adf0e832f59a0c0884edabbfbf8a06d6c47254bf)
Again, it might make some sense to have numbered this route UT-x15 (Future I-x15) if every westbound reassurance assembly contains a "TO I-15" shield and is takes precedence over UT-7. Just my opinion, though.

EB UT-7 Directional sign:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576572.jpg&hash=fd12edac4e92888b8239cfab1ed6bfe9d30d5759)

WB UT-7, "TO I-15" Directional sign:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576575.jpg&hash=8649ef46791aaaa0111ae7eb49683b6cc587bdf7)
At least UT-7 takes precedence over TO I-15 here. Also notice the raised shields/lettering from the sunlight.

EB UT-7 Shield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576578.jpg&hash=4ca41d2839ab5e08f58c4480384aeddfaa891450)

River Road Approach Assembly for UT-7:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576583.jpg&hash=c91e77f77978c8e95f2e811d03e8a5780b9474cf)

UT-7 Advance Junction Shield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576586.jpg&hash=54ccb1aa8a6b18bbb0c18b0d251305a8cf37f382)

UT-7 Shield from Washington Dam Road:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576588.jpg&hash=6ed4ed8f6c9b8e21782b64762e01ba66b1f6c800)
Note the "09" creation decal. This implies that a few of these UT-7 shields have been hanging around, unused, in contractor shops for a few years now and might explain some discrepancy between shields in this part of the state.

UT-9/59 Junction Assembly:

From EB UT-9:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576594.jpg&hash=85c4a6c6d8457ee1d931d97d47c84f0b1c50525a)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576597.jpg&hash=835325ab4d369167f72d22857f5f90b994c27e9f)

From WB UT-9:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576607.jpg&hash=94684d9520820853f0d3bbdde2c522bfda9285e5)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576611.jpg&hash=ffbb74394175a3df8308f50ce6e2db0e2d655f35)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576613.jpg&hash=aa0ecdc96f216a5a0096a83aa3b846c61713c5ad)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F106576616.jpg&hash=28bf2a0969e108b9f152ea426c54d21a653d0951)
Likely a "Poor Sign Placement" candidate, what with the trees and all.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on August 14, 2014, 12:23:38 AM
Highlights of this batch are the St. George DDI and accompanying signs/shields, misdirected BL-15 and UT-8, and a Business Route where one shouldn't be, 10 miles from I-15. I wish I could comment on all these St. George/Hurricane area photos, but I'll leave these as is:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F110454748.jpg&hash=b74d4e65160a3399c7757b14b67ed0d830e73014)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F110454752.jpg&hash=9faa729addaf71c32351a8d09aece90e22b506ad)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F110454779.jpg&hash=b5ebaf17950166a045c117a1ddc6a659f238903e)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F110454791.jpg&hash=fc87096e48f933f269a32922c5ea251daf4ff096)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F110454839.jpg&hash=90170bb686cb7c9384ecc92f8f4a44f0fd414d58)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F110454841.jpg&hash=884c0fe66dac8ef07f069abf08219eacf476b06b)

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Kids, don't put off posting photos all at once. More to come, including from the greater Salt Lake area (where I'm at now).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on August 14, 2014, 12:40:10 AM
Great pics! I see that the one referencing Utah 9 to Business 15 in Hurricane (at the western end of Utah 59) is wrong; it should instead show Interstate 15.

I also like the state name added to the I-15 shields on the Utah 34 overhead in St George. I will have to swing by there later this month to take a look myself. I did find a handful of I-15 Utah shields (mostly north of Cedar City, and I didn't drive past the I-70 interchange) while passing through earlier this month (maybe 4 total on northbound?). I think there are more state named shields further north.

Is Business Loop 15 still signed in St George? The northern Utah 34 interchange still has the shield, while the new signs at the Utah 18 interchange do not.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: KEVIN_224 on August 14, 2014, 12:46:33 AM
Is that a big "D" on the side of the hill (mountain?) in that last picture?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: mrsman on August 14, 2014, 07:43:06 PM
What I found interesting is how they put the pedestrian path in the middle of the diverging diamond interchange.  Is this a standard treatment?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: adventurernumber1 on August 14, 2014, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 14, 2014, 07:43:06 PM
What I found interesting is how they put the pedestrian path in the middle of the diverging diamond interchange.  Is this a standard treatment?

That is a little odd. I don't think I have ever seen that before, but it isn't too abnormal. But anyways, these are all great pics!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on March 24, 2015, 02:52:46 AM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on August 14, 2014, 12:46:33 AM
Is that a big "D" on the side of the hill (mountain?) in that last picture?

Yes. It stands for "Dixie," as in "Utah's Dixie," where early settlers attempted to grow cotton. (A very nutshell description of area history, I know).


Anyways, after a long time without any new photos, I've brought this thread back from the dead by uploading some photos from the greater Salt Lake Area, including signage along the UT-68/48 concurrency and along Redwood Rd in southern Salt Lake County:

UT-266 in Taylorsville, near I-215
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UT-68/171 Junction
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UT-68/209 Junction
Looking North on Redwood (68)
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Looking South on Redwood
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Note the sharp edges on the UT-209 shield.

UT-68/48 Concurrency

Looking East on 7800 S
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Looking West
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Looking North on Redwood
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UT-68 Only signed after UT-48 Merges
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Looking N on Redwood at 7000 S
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Looking W on 7000 S
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Looking S on Redwood at 7000 S
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And after UT-48 merges going south on Redwood from 7000 S...
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I've said it before and I've said it again, but if UDOT intends to route its state routes over concurrencies, either sign them (or at the very least reference them with "TO SR-xx" shields), or if not, make the different segments completely different routes (like splitting 48 into 48 and, say, 47).


There will be more to come that I haven't gotten around to uploading soon.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: texaskdog on March 24, 2015, 08:38:47 AM
I love Texas but wondering if we could afford to retire in Utah.  They don't get a lot of snow and can you imagine being able to go to those National Parks (Arches, Bryce, Canyonlands, Grand Canyon, Zion, Capitol Reef, Escalante Staircase) whenever you wanted to?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: BigManFromAFRICA88 on May 30, 2015, 10:09:07 PM
Hey rover, i'm assuming you've driven the new construction stretch of I-15 through Davis County...what do you think about the APLs? Especially the ones at Parrish Lane, 2600 South, and (I think) 400 North?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 13, 2015, 07:00:57 PM
Quote from: BigManFromAFRICA88 on May 30, 2015, 10:09:07 PM
Hey rover, i'm assuming you've driven the new construction stretch of I-15 through Davis County...what do you think about the APLs? Especially the ones at Parrish Lane, 2600 South, and (I think) 400 North?

I haven't yet, but I should find out soon this summer.

I have quite a few photos to upload, and I'll start with some from last summer. Here's some from the I-215/UT-266 junction in Milcreek/Holliday:

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Missing the signs for the trees (though the wooden poles suggest they are older...
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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 13, 2015, 07:23:51 PM
And some more for UT-209, UT-210, and UT-190 (with another I-215 shield):

At the east end of UT-209 at UT-210
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The erroneous "US-190" shield remains these many years later, though change may be coming:
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And the west end of UT-210:
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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 13, 2015, 07:52:44 PM
And a few sets from my travels outside the Wasatch Front last summer:

New signage along UT-78 on I-15 SB outside of Holden (Apologies for poor quality):
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Monsoonal weather in Kanab (note the US-89/89A Shields in the background):
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Some scenes from Cedar Mountain:
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Not only does US-143 exist, it's in Utah of all places!  :spin:
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According to UDOT, it should be fixed by now.

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And finally, for some state-named Interstate love, near Holden (after the south end of UT-64):
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More coming from me later tonight. More interesting developments in Saratoga Springs...
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: roadman65 on June 14, 2015, 07:36:12 PM
Really cool photos and nice signs.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on June 15, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
A lot has happened.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5585/18633882118_7de8ac975c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uoBvXC)

SR-201 (for the uninitiated, a freeway/expressway in suburban Salt Lake) was reconstructed between 91st West and 72nd West. UDOT still alternates between two shield styles, but this one is becoming preferred. (I mean, maybe. UDOT abhors sticking to one shield style.)


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5506/18199037314_046f763b43_b.jpg)

First exit following the transition from expressway to freeway. This style of tab has become the standard in the state.


(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7029/6558154755_8a1614d856_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/aZwfVH)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7005/6558156583_7b9ed518f5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/aZwgte)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5460/18635475099_6eb36d60a5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uoKFuP)

The first photo was taken in July 2011, about five years after those signs were installed. The second photo is from December 2011, after the road was widened through this stretch and a new gantry was required. Then, as you see in the third photo, UDOT saw fit to replace signs that weren't even four years old. Nothing about this interchange changed this time around. Talk about overkill.


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5538/18633917420_e28467cc4b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uoBGsh)

Another sign that was just recently replaced. Another thing I don't get is UDOT's choice to install diagrammatic signs at some locations and not at others, like above. Oh, of course, check out the two exit only arrows when there should only be one.


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5188/5606754469_2dc1856d1b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9xs5Lv)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3718/18633912650_de9bc33876_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uoBF33)

SR-201 at 900 West. The top photo features signs from 2001, and the bottom features brand new signs. Another misapplication of exit only arrows on the right sign... On the left, the vertical spacing of the shields and text seems off. And the shields look slightly too small.


(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3876/18816553142_8343be28ea_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uEKKG3)

Someone forgot an I-80 shield. Oops.


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5308/5562130676_4a50949965_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9tvnEL)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3809/18635450669_986fcec348_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uoKyeB)

Two left exits within a short span of each other–this is on the I-15/I-80 collector/distributor. The sign for 1300 South looks a bit off with the stacked left tab on top of the exit tab, huh?


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5019/5561554675_88ec00ddbe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9tsqrH)
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3912/18633839758_7875d5267b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uoBinh)

And I'll just let this speak for itself. A lot has changed in signage standards since 2001.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: BigManFromAFRICA88 on June 15, 2015, 05:21:10 PM
Great pics man. Maybe on the 215 pics above 62nd South you could instead drive north (in the leftmost lane) and get a great pic of the valley and the skyline. It's my favorite part of my morning drive to school :D.
I didn't realize that they put some more APLs on that 15/80 collector to 9th South...guess I should do more hunts for new signage since it's summer...
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 16, 2015, 10:10:49 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 14, 2015, 07:36:12 PM
Really cool photos and nice signs.

Thank you!


Quote from: CL on June 15, 2015, 10:54:25 AM
(Snipped Pictures)
A lot has changed in signage standards since 2001.

I sound dumb saying this, but for the better or the worse? Or better in some places (BGS's) and worse in others (inconsistent beehives)?

Anyways, it's been a couple days later than usual, I do have some pictures from Utah's newest state route, SR-129 from Pleasant Grove to Highland, and more from the Incredible Shrinking State Route, UT-73. But first, some pictures from around where I've been living in Sandy:

Looking north on 700 E (SR-71) in Sandy at the junction of 9000 S (SR-209) and 700 E (SR-71):

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Note the E Series numerals.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120615473.jpg&hash=6b91d3f9b7c66022354a68c0e38a92d6395cf9d0)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120615475.jpg&hash=458c222611e0dbd8feb33eb0fe3ed84401fbbf21)

Here's a UT-173 Shield in Taylorsville at the junction of UT-68 (Redwood Rd) and UT-173 that I like:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120615476.jpg&hash=4935324fb796679286a69f9a238bca224bd99a73)

And an erroneous "UT-89" Shield at the junction of US-89 (State St) and UT-175 (11400 S), looking west at the beginning of 175:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120615477.jpg&hash=a026e93b678c0116b06365c9c573e89c88657927)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 17, 2015, 03:14:59 AM
It's been a little longer than I had hoped, but here are some photos from SR-129, the newest state route (following 700 N in Pleasant Grove to North County Blvd, ending at SR-92). The beehive shields are uniform for the entire route, so no font or beehive deviation FWIW.

From the north end at SR-92:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120643992.jpg&hash=3e8b849cbac2d736d280111bab88522c8dd9bccf)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120643995.jpg&hash=d1a2ce71c9eea0a8f7524c41478e60c306ae0e91)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120643996.jpg&hash=506d28fb19f394061ba0409a17a5590d942ed44e)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120643999.jpg&hash=7c3c4f59b9fc1d0f5c93a53e2ad1b1919a8814b5)
While Utah usually marks the ends of their routes, it's unusual to mark the beginning of a route.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120643993.jpg&hash=0266faebc00c2306832e699da87eac20e1cbeee6)


And from the south end, at US-89 on the border of Pleasant Grove and Lindon:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120644002.jpg&hash=72044af4cb0d4ff90d48abe80f6fbdd69b3e7a14)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120644000.jpg&hash=0b0c34c4a974f73e5b4f523a70e8ef627146db29)
There's the other BEGIN assembly, complete with Milepost 0.

And from a little inbetween:

At the SR-129/114 junction (700 N and Geneva Rd), looking west (UT-129 NB)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120644004.jpg&hash=efc4cdd0214920c6d4b395450130279efb7409f6)

Looking east (SB 129) after Pleasant Grove Blvd
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120644005.jpg&hash=d6f0c4c8bc9413966d59e02092eb5f9f22d22796)

And at the junction of Pleasant Grove Blvd.; PGB is a short connection to I-15.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120644006.jpg&hash=2e4695d449249f019daef629b75eb6c7668c887e)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Zeffy on June 17, 2015, 05:53:21 PM
Damn, Utah looks pretty. Hopefully I can get out there one day - looks like a great place to visit for those who love natural features!
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 18, 2015, 02:04:51 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 17, 2015, 05:53:21 PM
Damn, Utah looks pretty. Hopefully I can get out there one day - looks like a great place to visit for those who love natural features!

Thanks you! You should come and see it in person. :D It's hard not to take it for granted sometimes.

As promised but later than planned, here are some more photos from Utah County:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671715.jpg&hash=a04bd037a900482b84499a194ca1a89e0e91495b)
Even though US-89 isn't signed in shield form along UT-85, the street signs mention it here on the NB off- and on-ramps from I-15 in Lehi.

At the UT-68/73 junction in Saratoga Springs
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671717.jpg&hash=3adf8eee06c2c125e51dcc4125f88bd097646b34)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671718.jpg&hash=c6c782ba57cad84fb82056aabdd3bc60d078241e)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671718.jpg&hash=c6c782ba57cad84fb82056aabdd3bc60d078241e)
Hmmm...something's missing.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671716.jpg&hash=e9a07c0ff6b4777164a411c4879fc181a2db8e13)
I could've sworn that this shield said "West UT-73" when I came through the area last year

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671719.jpg&hash=59dcac3cb9443d334787dea3f9a9b3a9369a649a)
Also TO UT-73 here (should be TO UT-145 here, too).

And, figuring that it's not too far out to wherever UT-73 is, I followed and found this...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671720.jpg&hash=2bbbffae7f0e5efc291d8db988fd7e86601df09b)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671721.jpg&hash=bef7c236f7d52623f4ca9cc9cf21931f4c40eaf7)
...and this...

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and this.

Looks familiar, doesn't it? (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=15771.msg2072140#msg2072140)

Well, it seems that with the completion of the Pioneer Crossing extension (from Redwood/68 to 73), Crossroads Blvd (which begins to the left) was realigned and the portion from the newly realigned road to Redwood was relinquished back to Saratoga Springs, leaving the east end of the west/main segment of SR-73 ending at the same point as the west end of SR-145.

I did email UDOT about this and got a response saying that SR-73 and SR-145 was to stay the same, segmented and all. I haven't yet checked the east stub between I-15 and US-89. At least that's what the signing says here, even though nothing has been changed legislatively (yet). Maybe make the east segment something like SR-242/Business Spur 15.

Here's a couple more assemblies from the area at all nearby intersections.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120671723.jpg&hash=9c6173c4337c4809a6cb9c7b4b1721cb4eb3475a)

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Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 20, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
Here's some more signage from St. George, I-215, and Draper:


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120701988.jpg&hash=e2d0e0c856004b9cc37b8e6008923aa2d69bb8fb)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120701989.jpg&hash=25e448ea1639ad8aafce68bf566b3d5f068dc3ff)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120701990.jpg&hash=b8985dbe686e2fdc611cd1ef85250a2e59eb47d3)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120701993.jpg&hash=c3dee2ff9849f8a6074361c98e676f5858d1e54f)

While it's likely that the last photo is just a UDOT/contractor error, I can't help but wonder if there have been (or are) plans to make Dixie Dr. a state route, possibly an extension of UT-8, considering UT-8 ends on Sunset Blvd. where it meets Dixie Dr. and that Dixie Dr. has become a fairly major road in the St. George area.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120702016.jpg&hash=1bdd917017174ea123d070e31b543359dd4d9a6c)
This is where I-215 bends to the north after meeting Redwood Rd.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120702017.jpg&hash=a05b9bbdd23432206f30c3e3dbc8f1f4e080f2a4)
Another fairly new state route, UT-175 (11400 S) at its intersection with Redwood Rd.

Another look at southbound UT-68, not long after crossing UT-71 (12600 S)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120702018.jpg&hash=099a5f2a5e0b45f04ed1b2c76ef3692006ff8857)

And some scenes from Bluffdale, the intersection between UT-68 and UT-140 (~14600 S):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120702019.jpg&hash=43ad5257d06aee69fd8b27c481bdec7b8396f861)
Looking east across Redwood. UT-140 begins straight ahead.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120702020.jpg&hash=7a16719a26b9ff779cb421b253fb10877182fa4e)
Southbound UT-68 after meeting UT-140 with a "Bike Lane" sign underneath. Redwood from here to Saratoga Springs gets up to 55 MPH and meets UT-85 (Mountain View Corridor) along the way running "concurrent" with it. I wonder if this stretch of Redwood finds itself as part of USBR-50 at some point in the future.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120702021.jpg&hash=d2d148ca8a75e486b4981c8f5a85b145106d9267)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120702022.jpg&hash=563c724466e4610e32ea5ad0cb17389d02a96619)
UT-140 ends here. From discussions with UDOT, UT-140 may soon find itself on the chopping block, with an extension of Porter Rockwell Blvd. (UT-85 between Redwood to the main MVC roadway) eventually connnecting with I-15 or possibly UT-92 at some point in the future. Given that I've driven 140 and it is very narrow (even having a one-lane railroad underpass), this wouldn't surprise me.

As for the shields, this simplistic style is growing on me. I still prefer the outlined version (with reasonably-sized Series D numerals for 2-digit and 3-digit with a 1 somewhere in there number), but this would be the next best thing.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 21, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
Some more scenes from UT-68 and the UT-85 junctions:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120782188.jpg&hash=f71236429b8459a9d3ffb373631bb96395a7b4e0)

From the Porter Rockwell connector between the main expressway and UT-68
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120782189.jpg&hash=bab97b06e5d6ed32db05fd045afda57cdbd59931)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120782191.jpg&hash=a323240e69db479a170a6997d6facea99e15d46d)

At the south end of the expressway
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120782194.jpg&hash=13a477a98c65bd06824f468c8fa5f4341e883c68)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120782195.jpg&hash=030e0d5350434299540fa734f1c02a03a85d3e48)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120782198.jpg&hash=72fb354c516d100e27cd3d93ecacc8d213802f91)
Since the Lehi 2100 N and main roads currently don't connect, UT-85 piggybacks on UT-68 for about 3 1/4-3 1/2 miles, with this and a similar northbound assembly. However, this is the only assembly showing both routes; the rest only sign UT-68.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 23, 2015, 01:24:54 AM
And here are a few more photos from Saratoga Springs, from the former UT-68/73 junction before UT-73's cutting back.

Here's where UT-85 splits off from UT-68 and heads over to i-15 on Lehi's 2100 North
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120827717.jpg&hash=4e59ecbcf32d34de00e367073963252aaba96e8c)

And the May 2014 UT-73 and UT-68 shields at Saratoga Springs and previous west end of UT-145 at UT-68:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120827718.jpg&hash=5fc31ed5eba03de71336da82fe9aaf2e897dd377)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120827719.jpg&hash=42431e3c80d1e4ad4ef26d9f8fc433ee93395bf6)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120827720.jpg&hash=2bcc19610fd407c01a5d11ee00a0059bc697d69c)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120827721.jpg&hash=d390183a0d1717475b5e8c6d2aa554a7bc079057)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 24, 2015, 01:45:08 AM
More photos from the Great Photo Dump of 2015, this time from Salina, Gunnison, and Nephi:

From Nephi:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120856373.jpg&hash=263386ed374da37af416c93d1bc5f4c54b7ecdb9)
This is an initial southbound UT-28/BL-15 (as of last year) assembly from north of Nephi

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120856380.jpg&hash=616edee4046eddfdcec711e4b61974044258a7dd)
And a UT-132 shield posted in 2012

From Gunnison:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120856375.jpg&hash=f8bcfe2c4652a4793175ffa3480796f0f8118d1f)
The arrow/shield assembly is upside-down here

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120856376.jpg&hash=5f3160517f1d2c5bfa3c70b48759fc1886334062)

And finally, from Salina, where the erroneous Business "Loop" 70 shields have been replaced by the proper Business Spur 70 shields:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120856377.jpg&hash=52bdc357177093f1b94f58b5d00620c8aecad81d)
Southbound

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120856379.jpg&hash=263cc67869f1f5777445e75781b4a039e9ea3bca)
Northbound
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: roadman65 on June 24, 2015, 11:58:40 AM
I must admit I do happen to like the stand alone UT state route shields.  They seem so cool with the beehive on the black backround.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Kniwt on June 24, 2015, 11:15:25 PM
While most of the newer APL signs in St. George are OK, there's another one that's confusing at best and wrong at worst: (Street View image)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7RPJHWz.png&hash=badf60dc3bb0987e5400777dd3dc867a0e7c0daf)

Exit 5 is right here, but with no exit-only lane. Exit 6 (actually, the new C/D ramp to Exit 6) is just ahead, with an exit-only lane and an option lane. But if the exit-only lane to Exit 6 were correctly curved on the sign, that would be confused with Exit 5.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 25, 2015, 09:14:51 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on June 24, 2015, 11:15:25 PM
While most of the newer APL signs in St. George are OK, there's another one that's confusing at best and wrong at worst: (Street View image)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7RPJHWz.png&hash=badf60dc3bb0987e5400777dd3dc867a0e7c0daf)

Exit 5 is right here, but with no exit-only lane. Exit 6 (actually, the new C/D ramp to Exit 6) is just ahead, with an exit-only lane and an option lane. But if the exit-only lane to Exit 6 were correctly curved on the sign, that would be confused with Exit 5.

Whoops, never noticed that. I might have to point this out to UDOT.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: BigManFromAFRICA88 on June 25, 2015, 07:08:05 PM
Quote from: Rover_0 on June 25, 2015, 09:14:51 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on June 24, 2015, 11:15:25 PM
While most of the newer APL signs in St. George are OK, there's another one that's confusing at best and wrong at worst: (Street View image)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7RPJHWz.png&hash=badf60dc3bb0987e5400777dd3dc867a0e7c0daf)

Exit 5 is right here, but with no exit-only lane. Exit 6 (actually, the new C/D ramp to Exit 6) is just ahead, with an exit-only lane and an option lane. But if the exit-only lane to Exit 6 were correctly curved on the sign, that would be confused with Exit 5.

Whoops, never noticed that. I might have to point this out to UDOT.

That's actually really funny. I've never noticed that when driving past there. Maybe it was because of that killer Mongolian BBQ...

Quote from: roadman65 on June 24, 2015, 11:58:40 AM
I must admit I do happen to like the stand alone UT state route shields.  They seem so cool with the beehive on the black backround.

I just like the new shields with smaller numerals and black outlining. Those are dope.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on June 26, 2015, 01:46:26 AM
Here's some more photos, this time from the UT-141/147 Junction near Payson and UT-198/115 in Payson:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916343.jpg&hash=0b43ea4f4f629b5960118b465af8b2fa461d6963)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916344.jpg&hash=828d64b6f6014f328378a43e5e2b400f5f5426b9)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916345.jpg&hash=03d5cd52149a829e45090a2b7c6617f911a2ede5)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916346.jpg&hash=a810af91470cea57bf610e0bb12c41c60907aa03)

Not sure why they UDOT hasn't renumbered one of these to make a single continuous route, but if they're letting UT-73 (well, the main segment) and UT-145 terminate at the same point, then I guess this is staying.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916347.jpg&hash=51de531b3682f6aa7755830f85c5e60de314a7f7)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916348.jpg&hash=67436b4f79d231619863414b8e657e22051fee59)

UT-198 Junction Advance Signage and Street Blade in Payson, on Utah Ave.


And finally, the UT-198/115 Junction in Payson:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916349.jpg&hash=d7069536890b60e5948524cacf6b1f59efc853ab)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916350.jpg&hash=39c3a4970e39f91247ffcd82fbb4bdb37ef8794d)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916351.jpg&hash=c5b371a2a8a413820f5395b9c2409bd398411c32)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F120916352.jpg&hash=25df9d8d98491f7b5f54dd649456d38e852f76c5)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on August 04, 2015, 01:27:42 AM
Rover, is there any chance UDOT can restore Business Loop 15 on the northbound signs for the Utah 18 exit? For whatever reason, the business loop is now omitted and only seen once on Utah 18.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on August 04, 2015, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: andy3175 on August 04, 2015, 01:27:42 AM
Rover, is there any chance UDOT can restore Business Loop 15 on the northbound signs for the Utah 18 exit? For whatever reason, the business loop is now omitted and only seen once on Utah 18.

I'll see what I can do--I've noticed that when I've gone to St. George as well. BL-15 is signed pretty well on WB UT-34's east end but is pretty much non-existent anywhere else, aside from the 2 shields (one on NB 18 and the other when it turns onto EB 34).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on August 07, 2015, 01:01:08 AM
The missing business loop shield on I-15 north in St George, along with the disappearance of US 50 (somewhere between Salina and Green River) and US 189 (between US 40 and the Wyoming state line) when they align with the Interstates, remain among the mysteries of Utah signage.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on November 21, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
It's true, unfortunately. I've sent a few messages to UDOT and haven't got a clear answer.

I have a few new pictures, mostly from a trip to southern Utah:

Advance signage for UT-17 on I-15 at Toquerville

1 Mile
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801896.jpg&hash=929ea98762827436d80cf7e44ba2f6d4c9ffa04a)

1/2 Mile
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801898.jpg&hash=069d8e452d30999898833c08f13e563e254af668)

Exit Signage
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801899.jpg&hash=d756c865f0aa08200798b30ca86e88747a8ddc36)

Signage in Beaver
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801900.jpg&hash=2a4641fc1b82785369cc3c85e351af4c1f85db62)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801901.jpg&hash=28313f3e29dee7bff3846699377de6d380df904f)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801902.jpg&hash=7fb65c6aaf3daddedefc6ba6c3554f81eb7ec12c)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801903.jpg&hash=4d959c59cbb7595530c0ca9039e7bd82e6321ae1)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801904.jpg&hash=67cf7d3554f23c7ae763cee061b0aa862517007e)

Holden Signage:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801905.jpg&hash=46807f9ac6c4b1c1d13e81378f644f2f384c1b87)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801906.jpg&hash=5ac9ebbd90540e1d8df73619a2d4da77492b9440)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801907.jpg&hash=d1bde3692de1ad8a8cee6e12a9c506bbe5bd569e)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801909.jpg&hash=55dbc2c59c42840cdea01e06fe913252f3a30a7e)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801910.jpg&hash=e9fe020305a6547e46e40106c281f43a24f61b00)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801912.jpg&hash=f8e9a40c74ca448e58f5fd826cb472e29dee29b1)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801913.jpg&hash=826a8a6ed5cdd95156bcfdb84fd9b1d1af2f4b28)

All the UT-64 shields are about all the shields in the field.

And finally for now, some signage from the UT-68/UT-154 (Redwood Rd/Bangerter Hwy) interchange:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801914.jpg&hash=97f7b5b29f36fb0836b878264ed38ea4a2365582)

It's interesting to see UT-154 marked as North-South, given that it runs East-West (and is signed as such) here.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: national highway 1 on November 22, 2015, 12:34:46 AM
Quote from: Rover_0 on November 21, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
It's true, unfortunately. I've sent a few messages to UDOT and haven't got a clear answer.

I have a few new pictures, mostly from a trip to southern Utah:

Advance signage for UT-17 on I-15 at Toquerville

Exit Signage
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F125801899.jpg&hash=d756c865f0aa08200798b30ca86e88747a8ddc36)

That sloppy arrow placement resembles a practice usually found in Texas.  :no:
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: authenticroadgeek on February 29, 2016, 10:38:14 PM
There used to be a sign approaching UT-265 from NB US-89 where instead of the state route symbol, it shows a US route symbol. However, they fixed it which makes me very sad because I loved that sign. :spin:
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: paulthemapguy on March 26, 2016, 06:38:16 PM
I am thoroughly enjoying this thread.  We need more threads like this for sign photos!!

I'm always split on the debate of "regulate a constant sizing for numbering on route shields" vs. "make the numbering on route shields as big as possible!"  To reconcile these two sides of the debate, I think the solution is to standardize the larger numbering I guess :hmm:
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on March 26, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
Just for fun, here are some photos of Utah signage from my trip on I-80 and I-15 last summer...

I-80 west at I-84, with new guide sign:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_5839.JPG)
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_5840.JPG)

I-80 west at Utah 280 in Coalville, which used to be a business spur that appeared to be unsigned from the freeway mainline:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_5857.JPG)

Button copy sign on I-80 west at I-215 and Utah 186:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_5920.JPG)

I-215 Utah shield:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_5988.JPG)

Collector Distributor lanes on transition from I-215 west to I-15 south:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_6017.JPG)

I-15 south is really wide as it approaches Exit 295, Junction Utah 209 (9000 South):
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_6019.JPG)

I-15 south at Exit 291, Junction Utah 71 (12300 South):
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_6041.JPG)

I-15 south approaching Exit 282, Junction U.S. 89 north and Utah 85 (Mountain View Corridor) west near Thanksgiving Point:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_6068.JPG)
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_6074.JPG)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: mrsman on March 28, 2016, 07:04:29 PM
Can anyone explain why the toll was suspended on the third to last picture above?

If it was temporary, simply having "Free" on the VMS would be enough without the need for the orange stripe.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Mergingtraffic on March 28, 2016, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: andy3175 on March 26, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
Button copy sign on I-80 west at I-215 and Utah 186:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_5920.JPG)

WOW can't believe those are still there.  Anymore left in the entire state?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on March 30, 2016, 01:25:38 AM
Quote from: mrsman on March 28, 2016, 07:04:29 PM
Can anyone explain why the toll was suspended on the third to last picture above?

If it was temporary, simply having "Free" on the VMS would be enough without the need for the orange stripe.

I believe this  had to do with ongoing construction in the vicinity of this sign. With lane reductions and lane changes, I think they offered the HOV lane without a toll for the duration of the construction period.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: andy3175 on March 30, 2016, 01:28:00 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on March 28, 2016, 10:52:04 PM
Quote from: andy3175 on March 26, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
Button copy sign on I-80 west at I-215 and Utah 186:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/west/IMG_5920.JPG)

WOW can't believe those are still there.  Anymore left in the entire state?

There might be, but this is definitely one of the few remaining, especially on an Interstate mainline. With the quick descent from Parley's Summit through Parley's Canyon to the I-215 interchange, I've been surprised this sign assembly has lasted as long as it has. It seems to me that with the speed of traffic on I-80 west leading into Salt Lake City that efforts should have been made some time ago to improve signage and visibility of exit ramps on the approach to I-215. Having said that, I enjoy seeing that this relic sign has survived at least into 2015.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rover_0 on April 10, 2016, 03:35:09 AM
And I'm back!! I have some photos from Utah County, with the newly-signed-but-yet-to-be-officially-christened SR-176, AKA the Vineyard Connector (it has its own thread here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17749.msg2137742)), planned to connect 800 N (UT-52) in Orem with 700 S in Lehi (roughly at Pleasant Grove Parkway at I-15, near the newer SR-129--I presume):

With SR-129 and now SR-176, it UDOT may be signing the beginning of routes now:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458099.jpg&hash=3afdc17afb6201a62a3ced53540f93ecdfb1b9b5)

We're facing west, but UT-176 is meant to be North-South, as it will swing to the north (right) after about a mile (more on that in a minute):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458104.jpg&hash=c98b60257811387ac72d4efb60d458d31d452b03)

And crossing over the FrontRunner/canal overpass in the above picture, we arrive at the (current) end of SR-176, but you can see the road base swinging to the north (right):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458105.jpg&hash=1deab4560f35ca2b1cf63be94fa06c73a19aa21b)

Turning back the other way, we see the first of the southbound SR-176 shield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458107.jpg&hash=c89504af858f78876b80cfabc10d9afdb12490a0)

And find the advance junction signage for SR-52 and SR-114:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458108.jpg&hash=6e3b76f5d66c834bf60381cba1cd0d695f235563)

With the End SR-176 and UT-52/114 Junction assembly ahead:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458101.jpg&hash=10fcccbd2236ecf54cde0cf632f0910f274536e6)

I'm still not sure exactly why UT-52 isn't extended over this route, as even if its mileposts are reset, it is, after all, only about 4.5 miles long.

Anyways, since I was already in the area I figured I'd check out the south end of US-189, as the Provo Westside Connector (http://www.provowestsideconnector.com/) (AKA PWC) is planned to connect the Provo Airport with I-15 and US-189 (AKA University Ave in Provo) at the same interchange (Exit 263). I assume that this will become a state route (and I'm placing my bets that it becomes SR-177, what with the proximity to SR-176 and SR-77 and that the number is available). However, I made an interesting discovery here, too. But first, the first northbound US-189 shield:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458112.jpg&hash=842dd6e2276acbef09e64ea3fac65e8778f401a1)


And the END (southbound) US-189 shield:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458113.jpg&hash=95a8ca9c92474872b06c8b46ffd84a8ffd5926e7)

But now, for the interesting part. Coming off I-15's southbound off-ramp, I found what looks to be a future shield assembly:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458109.jpg&hash=b860ffe66b129eddca11997db4f007fa882fa5b3)

And if that's not enough, there's a second small BGS-style sign heavily confirming a a second state route:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.panoramio.com%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F129458111.jpg&hash=486333e0f2fb0ba12a927749efb427115bfd9e98)

I would assume that the PWC may simply be routed over this interchange and over 1860 South to US-89--a mile or two east of here--but the placement of the shields may suggest something else entirely. Unless it's a simple installation misplacement, the "North US-189 turn left" signs should be on the left with "East SR-x stay straight" on the right.

Now, the BGS-style sign does have US-189 on the left, suggesting that this first hypothesis is correct, but if so, why does it look like "University Ave" covers the entire bottom of the sign if this second route is listed as straight ahead? Granted, it's not beyond UDOT (and/or their contractors) to make such an error, or there's something else on the sign I'm not sure about, or I'm just looking waaaay too much into this, but it is something to wonder about (and will be revealed rather shortly).
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: hbelkins on April 10, 2016, 03:24:09 PM
That junction assembly for 114 and 52 needs to go in the "worst of" thread.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rothman on April 11, 2016, 11:40:35 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 10, 2016, 03:24:09 PM
That junction assembly for 114 and 52 needs to go in the "worst of" thread.

Why?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: hbelkins on April 11, 2016, 10:43:45 PM
Those God-awful mismatched JCT banners.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on June 17, 2017, 11:56:45 PM
I don't have any pictures, but I drove I-15 through Point of the Mountain today. And I found that the I-15 and US-89 concurrency now has dual signage reassurance markers!  :sombrero: And in one case, there was a US-89 marker by itself without a 15 one next to it -- on I-15! I don't think 89 is signed from the intersecting streets, but it's a start.

Unfortunately, there is an END 85 sign at the intersection of 2100 North and Redwood Rd, where 85 should turn right concurrent with 68.

Also, the new SR-135 on Pleasant Grove Blvd is now signed from I-15.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Rothman on June 19, 2017, 02:27:22 PM
Heh.  There hasn't been a point to the mountain since before the Olympics.  Got mined away. :D
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on June 19, 2017, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 19, 2017, 02:27:22 PM
Heh.  There hasn't been a point to the mountain since before the Olympics.  Got mined away. :D

Good point. I think that there should be a North Point of the Mountain where I-15 crosses from Salt Lake to Davis county. Of course, that is getting mined away as well...
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on January 10, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
For whatever reason, UDOT loves to replace signs that are perfectly fine and practically brand new.

Take this example. I-80 westbound at the airport interchange. (Apologies for the Google Street View.)

2011 (probably the original signs from the '80s), 2013, 2017. All different signs.

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6226/6293900430_97340f0ea3_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4664/24753084657_a875e8499b_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4653/39621213381_dba4f26a87_b.jpg)



Or I-80 eastbound at the same location. 2011, 2014, 2017. Just love Ogden in series C and Provo in series E(M) on the newest signs. Well done.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4668/39621374231_e5d53e5779_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4714/38913270944_530e7107a4_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4628/39621375071_d0897f7c7e_b.jpg)



Or I-80 eastbound, just beyond the Redwood Rd exit (the overpass). 2011, 2012, and 2017.

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6035/6294006582_b0f4117135_b.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/7169033184_318a2d2364_b.jpg)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4702/38913330104_9d4bf7dbab_c.jpg)

Okay, you get the point. Virtually every sign on I-80 in this area got replaced in 2012/2013 and then again in 2017. UDOT's penchant for discarding perfectly good BGSs after five years beggars belief.

Anyway. A few more (brand new) signs with their predecessors that were only up for eight years. Taken in 2011 and 2017.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3308/5815568554_a89f0138d8_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4657/27844274469_f5a98bba52_b.jpg)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2409/5815001485_8b87a873e9_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4661/27844273109_54fc11bec0_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7164/6558147571_a8f4050581_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4762/27844271929_1edd457998_b.jpg)

No, the lane configuration did not change between 2011 and 2017. Why do we now post signs where it looks like both right lanes must exit, when that's only the case for the right lane?

Okay. One more photo. Can anyone explain what's going on here?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4758/27844519049_9cff7d256d_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on January 10, 2018, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: CL on January 10, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
For whatever reason, UDOT loves to replace signs that are perfectly fine and practically brand new.

-snipped pictures-

No, the lane configuration did not change between 2011 and 2017. Why do we now post signs where it looks like both right lanes must exit, when that's only the case for the right lane?

I think the airport signs may have even been replaced three times, since the A and B exits were switched. But I’m not going to complain, because I really like the state-named Interstate shields, and I don’t like the outlined US shields. Plus the newer signs are usually better overall. My only complaint would be the removal of those button-copy signs at the mouth of Parleys, which was done this past summer.

As for the confusing arrows, they were briefly discussed in this thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20323.msg2247980#msg2247980), where the consensus was that that’s the current standard, and it causes more problems than it solves.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on January 23, 2018, 10:26:28 PM
I recently had the opportunity to drive the 40/189 concurrency and take some photos. The beehive 189's that Rover posted in the other thread have been replaced with proper US 189s.

Eastbound, just after the beginning at I-80:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4711/39135412154_80e23d2baf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22Cgdzq)

Eastbound, between Exit 2 and 4:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4764/38946426195_c0ee2c2a97_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22kyBCP)

I didn't get a picture, but there was a proper US 40/189 just after Exit 4 eastbound as well.

Westbound, between Exit 4 and 2:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4709/38946420185_bfaf9efae1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22kyzRc)

Westbound, after Exit 2:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4662/28066138389_d961e3f4fc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JL7i8K)

Still no indication that US 189 is supposed to follow I-80 eastbound:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4756/25972055438_9488eb4f4e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Fz4zeh)

And no signage from the intersecting roads, even in Wasatch County. This was from SR-248 eastbound:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4766/28066145519_645f9523a9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JL7kfF)

No mention of 189 from I-80 eastbound either, and the signs on eastbound I-80 were actually put up just this past summer:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4602/38946521405_640a0e364a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22kz6Wn)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: mrsman on February 04, 2018, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: CL on January 10, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
For whatever reason, UDOT loves to replace signs that are perfectly fine and practically brand new.

Take this example. I-80 westbound at the airport interchange. (Apologies for the Google Street View.)

2011 (probably the original signs from the '80s), 2013, 2017. All different signs.

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6226/6293900430_97340f0ea3_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4664/24753084657_a875e8499b_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4653/39621213381_dba4f26a87_b.jpg)




It's bad to waste taxpayer money replacing perfectly good signs.  It's tragic when the replacement signs in 2017 are worse than the old signs and look like they have been placed by the Craig County, OK sign dept.

What's up with that kooky font?  : :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on February 04, 2018, 11:48:11 PM
Quote from: mrsman on February 04, 2018, 04:39:45 PM
It's bad to waste taxpayer money replacing perfectly good signs.  It's tragic when the replacement signs in 2017 are worse than the old signs and look like they have been placed by the Craig County, OK sign dept.

What's up with that kooky font?  : :eyebrow:

The only proper change with the new signs is that the A and B suffixes were switched so that they were in the correct order. Also, Bangerter should have a SR-154 shield.

As for the font, that's Utah for you. The too-large text was used on quite a few of the new signs which went up this past summer. There are also several signs scattered around with oversized capitals and too-small lowercase letters, like this:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4762/24974845687_070f40a830_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E3WBvH)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on May 21, 2018, 11:10:54 PM
Just today I discovered an old button copy sign on northbound Lagoon Drive in Farmington, just after passing the State Street bridge in Farmington. I'm going to go back and get a real photo, but for now here's a GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/vUm3FWTtWYQ2).

That makes two three two button copy signs in Utah I'm aware of. This one probably dates from the construction of I-15 in the early 1970s.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on July 10, 2018, 10:46:45 AM
Here's a photo of that Farmington button-copy:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/914/42352594294_ee08460fc2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27wy7K1)

Also, I had no idea there were any US 89 cutouts left on the I-70 concurrency. This is just after the SR-259 interchange, and it might be the only one left.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1782/29436473518_60cfc8fc03_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LRcC2u)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Mergingtraffic on July 10, 2018, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 10, 2018, 10:46:45 AM
Here's a photo of that Farmington button-copy:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/914/42352594294_ee08460fc2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27wy7K1)

Also, I had no idea there were any US 89 cutouts left on the I-70 concurrency. This is just after the SR-259 interchange, and it might be the only one left.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1782/29436473518_60cfc8fc03_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LRcC2u)


Where's the other button copy sign?
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on July 10, 2018, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on July 10, 2018, 12:18:31 PM
Where's the other button copy sign?

It's on US 89 southbound in North Salt Lake, just before the I-15 interchange. (I need to go get a better photo...)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4695/26455449108_09f1bc9b11_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GiM6jU)

There are probably more button copy signs out there somewhere, but these could very well be the last ones in the greater Salt Lake area. There were several in the I-80/215 east interchange, but they were all replaced last summer.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: CL on December 14, 2020, 11:15:47 PM
I'm sorry, but is that... is that the typeface the United Kingdom uses on their road signs?

In Utah?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QFcn9YSxOCk/X9g3w1Pn-QI/AAAAAAAADsc/6mb03EJwicg5RP6LeVZAcHOBhZCFYoorgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1000/Screen%2BShot%2B2020-12-14%2Bat%2B21.12.12.png)

Looking northbound on US-89 approaching SR-12 in rural southern Utah... (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7456141,-112.3789654,3a,25.1y,41.04h,93.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ6az2pbyaeW5dZ_-5j1pdw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V6FX3sNwPio/X9hCZbkRDxI/AAAAAAAADso/RKn_2f6EaPMNz2NpjztFyEmA3C2yaUFwgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1000/Screen%2BShot%2B2020-12-14%2Bat%2B21.57.24.png)

Same junction, just southbound. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7524467,-112.377563,3a,26.3y,137.3h,103.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9mBNPWzHXisN43FJ0SuGLw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: J N Winkler on December 15, 2020, 10:53:22 AM
Quote from: CL on December 14, 2020, 11:15:47 PMI'm sorry, but is that... is that the typeface the United Kingdom uses on their road signs?

Yes, but the capital letter sizes look a little odd on the first pair of signs.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: Scott5114 on December 16, 2020, 12:35:42 AM
Transport looks more at home in a US signage context than I would have expected.
Title: Re: Adventures in Utah signage
Post by: US 89 on December 16, 2020, 02:37:52 AM
I have a photo of these very signs from summer 2018 and somehow never noticed the font.