Covid vaccination status?

[kphoger]

I don't think it would necessarily be possible to prove exactly where you got the virus if you did get it. Everyone claimed Herman Cain got it when he attended the Trump rally in Oklahoma, but that was never proven.

Kevin Stitt was maskless in the same section as Herman Cain and got it too, becoming the first governor to catch it. So it seems likely, though difficult to prove, that someone at the rally had it and gave it to both Cain and Stitt, or one of them gave it to the other.

Well, how does one prove that kind of thing anyway?  Do a DNA analysis of the virus in each person?

[NWI_Irish96]

I don't think it would necessarily be possible to prove exactly where you got the virus if you did get it. Everyone claimed Herman Cain got it when he attended the Trump rally in Oklahoma, but that was never proven.

Kevin Stitt was maskless in the same section as Herman Cain and got it too, becoming the first governor to catch it. So it seems likely, though difficult to prove, that someone at the rally had it and gave it to both Cain and Stitt, or one of them gave it to the other.

Well, how does one prove that kind of thing anyway?  Do a DNA analysis of the virus in each person?

No, you don't prove it. You make reasonable assumptions based on when you first exhibited symptoms and how many people you were around 10-14 days before that date who began exhibiting symptoms a few days before you.

[Scott5114]

That's the thing–you can't prove it, at least not to the threshold that would be required to assign legal liability. So if you had an employer that took no precautions against exposing you to the virus, you caught it and died, and your family sued them, their lawyer could go out and say "well there's no evidence he didn't catch it at the grocery store" and win the case.

That's one of the reasons I quit my casino job, actually.

[kevinb1994]

Got my first shot of the Pfizer vaccine today. Had no problems at the CVS. Someone else in line actually showed up at the wrong location (on the same road)...their excuse was that they were on their lunch break and had to hurry back.

[J N Winkler]

But how much of that will hold up? Every baseball ticket to a Reds game that I ever attended when I was a kid had an indemnity clause printed on the ticket -- user assumes all risks associated with the game of baseball including but not limited to being struck by balls, loose or broken bats, etc. -- and people were suing if they got hit by a foul ball line drive and winning.

This is an open question.  But even if a contract specifically disallows liability from a given cause, it is still open to challenge under the doctrines of unconscionability and non est factum.  And once a case gets in front of a jury, odd things can happen (Bushel's Case comes to mind).

In Kansas, nursing homes have already received a statutory liability shield from covid-related claims.

New York is already specifically requiring that, in order to enter a venue of large congregation, you must produce proof of vaccination, a negative rapid test collected within the last 6 hours, or a negative PCR test collected within the last 72 hours.

But that's New York - most states will not do this, and many are already seeking to specifically prohibit businesses from imposing such requirements for entry.

I think New York may well end up being the exception that proves the rule.  In Kansas, our governor (a Democrat, like Cuomo) has categorically ruled out vaccine passports.  The Guardian has also reported that the UK government has received advice from social psychologists to the effect that they amount to a negative incentive to be vaccinated, with a high likelihood of encouraging the vaccine-hesitant to dig in and not get the shot.

[CoreySamson]

I've read that in the UK, where there are far more lockdowns and observance of social distancing protocols, that contact tracing has led them to believe that people there often pick it up doing grocery shopping. Someone's standing in front of the meat cooler staring vapidly at the different cuts of meat, you squeeze by them to grab a thing of ground beef, and...

That's interesting. I believe I was a bit suspicious of that a year ago in the coronavirus thread...

Does anyone here know the effect supermarkets are having on the coronavirus spread?

From what I've seen, no grocery stores are shutting down due to coronavirus spread among its workers, but meat processing plants are? I'd think coronavirus would spread more quickly in grocery stores than in meat processing centers or churches or parks. I'd think the workers who've interacted with the most people since coronavirus came here would probably be grocery store workers.

If the government is so intent on reducing coronavirus transmission, then why did they not tell grocery stores to use curbside pickup or delivery only instead of potential contamination in the stores, since grocery stores were literally one of the only public places that were open in full a couple weeks ago? Seems fishy to me.

You can go to page 113 of the original coronavirus thread for the original quote.

[ozarkman417]

A couple of weeks ago, my father, over 65, recieved his second dose of Moderna. A month before that, my mother, a healthcare worker, did the same. My school district, in a couple of weeks, will offer vaccinations. I plan to partake in that program.

[tolbs17]

I hope to get mine next week.

[wxfree]

I got my first dose of Pfizer this week.  On the first day, my arm was sore, very minor.  The second day, it still hurt very slightly if I touched it, but otherwise I didn't even notice it.  Then it was better.  It would probably hurt that much if you just stuck a sewing needle in there and pulled it back out.

[ilpt4u]

My 2nd Pfizer does is yet to be scheduled. Per my vaccination record card, I am due for shot two on April 15, which is Thursday

Supposedly I am supposed to get an email from the county health department to schedule dose 2. If I don't see/hear anything by Monday at lunch time, I'm going to contact them to schedule shot/dose 2

[Brandon]

My 2nd Pfizer does is yet to be scheduled. Per my vaccination record card, I am due for shot two on April 15, which is Thursday

Supposedly I am supposed to get an email from the county health department to schedule dose 2. If I don't see/hear anything by Monday at lunch time, I'm going to contact them to schedule shot/dose 2

Nice.  I wound up going to the statewide vaccination site in Quincy, run by Adams County, last Tuesday (4/6).

[ilpt4u]

My 2nd Pfizer does is yet to be scheduled. Per my vaccination record card, I am due for shot two on April 15, which is Thursday

Supposedly I am supposed to get an email from the county health department to schedule dose 2. If I don't see/hear anything by Monday at lunch time, I'm going to contact them to schedule shot/dose 2

Nice.  I wound up going to the statewide vaccination site in Quincy, run by Adams County, last Tuesday (4/6).

I've heard from local restaurants around Jackson County that plenty of Chicagolanders have been coming down this way to get the vaccine at the SIU Arena or Carbondale Civic Center (city hall), both of which are open to any IL citizen and are run by IL National Guardsmen/Guardswomen - and then stopping in to get a bite to eat =)

[Scott5114]

Oklahoma is apparently opening up vaccinations to non-residents, one of the first states to do so. So if anyone wants an excuse to take a trip to the South Plains during tornado season...

[US 89]

I'm eligible for my second dose starting April 26th. Supposed to get an email when appointments open up.

As a side note, I just got a 12 pack of hard seltzer from a local bar for free by showing them my CDC vaccine card.

[US71]

Got mine Saturday (yesterday) "one and done".  There were 2 cars ahead of me and one after me. I rolled down my widow, confirmed my identity, then got the shot while sitting in the car. There was also a place to park for 15 minutes "just in case" someone had a reaction.

I'm happy to report no problems, though I overslept this morning.

[Duke87]

Update!

Someone cancelled an appointment they had scheduled for today and I happened to be on the website at just the right time last night to snag it as it popped up. I have now successfully been injected with Pfizer's packaging of viral mRNA.

They set up my second appointment right as I went to the post-shot waiting area, it is scheduled for exactly 3 weeks and 50 minutes after my first (Sunday 5/2).

They also gave me a nice plastic sleeve for my card, so no debate about whether to laminate it.

[Scott5114]

Funny thing about the cards: my first dose was done by the Pontotoc County Health Department, and they stuck a great big giant sticker on the face of the card with "PONTOTOC CHD", Pfizer, and the lot number. This meant that when I got my second dose from the McIntosh County Health Department they had to squeeze in the 2nd dose on the "Other" line at the bottom of the card, handwritten.

I wonder if that would cause any problems getting a vaccine passport in the states that offer them.

[SSOWorld]

Oklahoma is apparently opening up vaccinations to non-residents, one of the first states to do so. So if anyone wants an excuse to take a trip to the South Plains during tornado season...

One of?  Far from it! Iowa allowed out-of-staters to get shots within its borders for quite some time.  (I got mine in Dubuque)

[Scott5114]

Oklahoma is apparently opening up vaccinations to non-residents, one of the first states to do so. So if anyone wants an excuse to take a trip to the South Plains during tornado season...

One of?  Far from it! Iowa allowed out-of-staters to get shots within its borders for quite some time.  (I got mine in Dubuque)

one of the first = not necessarily the first but before most others

[SectorZ]

Oklahoma is apparently opening up vaccinations to non-residents, one of the first states to do so. So if anyone wants an excuse to take a trip to the South Plains during tornado season...

New Hampshire starts the same 4/19.

[ET21]

2nd jab this Thursday, I need my free 5G interwebs 

[JayhawkCO]

Oklahoma is apparently opening up vaccinations to non-residents, one of the first states to do so. So if anyone wants an excuse to take a trip to the South Plains during tornado season...

One of?  Far from it! Iowa allowed out-of-staters to get shots within its borders for quite some time.  (I got mine in Dubuque)

one of the first = not necessarily the first but before most others

To my knowledge, Colorado has never had a residency requirement.

Chris

[jmacswimmer]

Got my 2nd jab of Pfizer yesterday - I may have popped a small fever overnight, and then woke up with aches that went away once I took ibuprofen.

Funny thing about the cards: my first dose was done by the Pontotoc County Health Department, and they stuck a great big giant sticker on the face of the card with "PONTOTOC CHD", Pfizer, and the lot number. This meant that when I got my second dose from the McIntosh County Health Department they had to squeeze in the 2nd dose on the "Other" line at the bottom of the card, handwritten.

I wonder if that would cause any problems getting a vaccine passport in the states that offer them.

Reverse for me - They wrote in my 1st dose information by hand, but then put on a sticker for my 2nd dose yesterday (but unlike you, I went to the same location/provider for both).

As a side note, I just got a 12 pack of hard seltzer from a local bar for free by showing them my CDC vaccine card.

I have yet to try this, but apparently Krispy Kreme is offering 1 free glazed donut (no purchase required) per person if you show your vaccine card.  And since they won't store any information, you can get as many free donuts as you want until the promotion ends!

[tolbs17]

I'm guessing the single dose (J&J) one will count as "both shots". I will be getting it in the afternoon (after school) at 3:45pm on Friday.

[jeffandnicole]

Oklahoma is apparently opening up vaccinations to non-residents, one of the first states to do so. So if anyone wants an excuse to take a trip to the South Plains during tornado season...

One of?  Far from it! Iowa allowed out-of-staters to get shots within its borders for quite some time.  (I got mine in Dubuque)

NJ has allowed those that work in NJ but live elsewhere to get the shot.  And being no evidence is required, anyone can come in from elsewhere as long as they meet one of the gazillion permissions.

I've also seen people say they've traveled into NY from NJ to get the shot.