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State (TX) Adds I-69 to Interstate System

Started by ChoralScholar, June 26, 2013, 10:24:19 PM

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ChoralScholar

http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/valley/article_cbb0e04a-c99b-11e2-8c72-001a4bcf6878.html

AUSTIN – The future of economic development in the Lower Rio Grande Valley took a huge step forward Thursday with about 111 miles of freeway officially added to the Interstate 69 System, officials said.
The Texas Transportation Commission gave approval to naming completed interstate-standard segments of U.S. 77 and U.S. 281 as I-69.
In addition, a segment of U.S. 83 has been designated as an I-69 "connector"  interstate highway.
The designations are being touted as a lifeline to growth for the Valley.
"It's like anything you do that is worth doing; it takes time,"  said David Allex, chairman of the Cameron County Regional Mobility Authority.
"We needed the private sector to give us the political clout to get things done.
"The signs that said "˜Future Route of I-69' are coming down and the real shields are going up,"  Allex said of the long-sought interstate highway designation.
Promoting the Valley to business and industry as being served by interstate highways is the key to the future, Allex said.
"It's a step in the right direction,"  he said of the move to name completed segments of I-69.
Willacy County Judge John F. Gonzales Jr. also said the super highway will be the lifeline to growth.
"What this means to Willacy County is that it literally puts us on the map as having an interstate,"  Gonzales said. "It will open up Willacy County to have all sorts of economic development."
He added, "It takes an interstate to get traffic that's going to the United States to come into an area, just like in San Antonio, Dallas and Houston."
Three Valley highways are now interstates, said Jennifer Shepard, Alliance for I-69 Texas executive director.
U.S. 77 through Cameron and Willacy counties will be signed as Interstate 69 East. That includes 52 miles of existing freeway starting at the Rio Grande in Brownsville and running north past Raymondville, Shepard said.
The 13 miles of U.S. 281 freeway in Pharr and Edinburg will be signed as Interstate 69 Central, a designation that will eventually extend northward to George West, she said.
The east-west U.S. 83 freeway that connects more than a dozen Valley cities has been designated as Interstate 2, Shepard said in a statement.
"It extends approximately 46 miles from Harlingen to west of Mission,"  she said. "U.S. 83 was not designated by Congress as part of I-69 but the Alliance for I-69 Texas and community leaders have insisted over the years that it should be considered an interstate highway connector between the legs of I-69."
Shepard said that in Texas, I-69 is designated by Congress as a combination of U.S. 59, 77 and 281.
Four-lane Expressway 77 already connects Brownsville to Interstate 37 at Corpus Christi, passing through Raymondville, but interstate highway signs are vital, Gonzales said.
"It all has to do with the name,"  Gonzales said. "They aren't going to come down here unless it says interstate highway on it."
Eventually, there will be four legs of Interstate 69 connecting to the Valley, but presently three have been designated, Shepard said.
The legs connecting Brownsville – including Harlingen and San Benito – and McAllen were designated Thursday by the Texas Transportation Commission, Shepard said.
Later, another leg to Laredo will be part of the I-69 system, she said.
Although I-69 has been completed from Indianapolis to the Canadian border for about 40 years, there are sections in areas such as Arkansas and southwestern Indiana that will be costly and time-consuming to build, due to the need for many large bridges, so no exact date is set for completion for all of I-69, she said.
Any segments of the future I-69 completed in South Texas will be quickly designated as part of the interstate system, Shepard said.
Any additional segments of I-69 that are upgraded to interstate standards will get designation as quickly as possible, she said.
"It's being developed incrementally as areas are at interstate standards,"  she said of I-69. "That helps areas like the Valley because you have economic development experts tell you one of the greatest assets for an area is to have interstate highways."

http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/valley/article_cbb0e04a-c99b-11e2-8c72-001a4bcf6878.html
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NE2

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Brandon

Quote from: NE2 on June 27, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
holy crap states' rights

WTF does that have to do with this?  Put the drink down and sober up.
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roadman65

What amazes me is that TX is being allowed to violate the FHWA ruling about assigning suffixes on interstates.  Yes, I know TX already has I-35E and I-35 W, but that is grandfathered in or at least sort of.  However, whatever number is given to the three branches, it will still serve as a continuous border to border freeway. 

To me it makes more sense to continue I-37 to Brownsville and make I-37 into Corpus Christi as x37 for I-69E.  Then Central should stay as I-69 proper, and the west leg as an x69 or even I-6 as it does follow E-W US 59.

The point that NE2 is trying to make, I think, is that Texas was the one that was trying to break free, after Obama won this past year, from the Union and also have showed in actions over the years that they someday do want to become their own independent nation. 
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J N Winkler

Shouldn't this discussion be merged with the I-69 in Texas thread in the Mid-South board?
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Henry

So it's safe to say that the main route of I-69 will end in Laredo?
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NE2

The point I was making is that states do not add routes to the Interstate system.
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Brandon

Quote from: roadman65 on June 27, 2013, 09:25:13 AM
What amazes me is that TX is being allowed to violate the FHWA ruling about assigning suffixes on interstates.  Yes, I know TX already has I-35E and I-35 W, but that is grandfathered in or at least sort of.  However, whatever number is given to the three branches, it will still serve as a continuous border to border freeway. 

To me it makes more sense to continue I-37 to Brownsville and make I-37 into Corpus Christi as x37 for I-69E.  Then Central should stay as I-69 proper, and the west leg as an x69 or even I-6 as it does follow E-W US 59.

The point that NE2 is trying to make, I think, is that Texas was the one that was trying to break free, after Obama won this past year, from the Union and also have showed in actions over the years that they someday do want to become their own independent nation. 

Were not these designations written into law as suffixed interstates?  I seem to recall that they were written into law by Congress (then of course, signed into law by the President).
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Grzrd

Quote from: Brandon on June 27, 2013, 03:48:09 PM
Were not these designations written into law as suffixed interstates?

Yes they were. Here is a recent post that incudes an email from a FHWA official explaining how Congressional action supersedes FHWA and AASHTO authority (although the email was in response to a question about I-49, it also mentions I-69):

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg225936#msg225936

roadman65

Quote from: Grzrd on June 27, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 27, 2013, 03:48:09 PM
Were not these designations written into law as suffixed interstates?

Yes they were. Here is a recent post that incudes an email from a FHWA official explaining how Congressional action supersedes FHWA and AASHTO authority (although the email was in response to a question about I-49, it also mentions I-69):

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.msg225936#msg225936
The Buddy Schuster thing  with I-99 obviously set a precident.
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NE2

They were written as "Interstate Route I—69 East" and "Interstate Route I—69 Central". Good luck putting those on signs.
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Alps

Quote from: Brandon on June 27, 2013, 12:48:48 AM
Quote from: NE2 on June 27, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
holy crap states' rights

WTF does that have to do with this?  Put the drink down and sober up.
Maybe you should actually read, first.
"U.S. 83 was not designated by Congress as part of I-69 but the Alliance for I-69 Texas and community leaders have insisted over the years that it should be considered an interstate highway connector between the legs of I-69."
So, there's Texas insisting it has the power to make something I-2 just because community leaders corporations want it. OT: Fuck texas.

ChoralScholar

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It was the whole US-83 becomes I-2 that threw me.  Looks like Google Maps is already calling it I-2.  Seems pointless for such a short stretch of highway.

I'm guessing they plan to upgrade the remainder of US-83 along the border to Laredo to Interstate standards.
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NE2

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I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

ChoralScholar

Pardon me.  I just got to this forum a few days ago. 
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