Poll
Question:
Do you agree?
Option 1: Hills do not exist in IL, and no amount of evidence can convince me otherwise.
votes: 13
Option 2: I know IL isn't totally flat, but I still like to get a reaction out of people.
votes: 8
Option 3: I know IL is flat, but I'll go to my grave before admitting it on this forum.
votes: 2
Option 4: IL is the new Alanland. All hail Goat Jesus.
votes: 4
Option 5: I've never been to IL, but I'll weigh in on this debate anyway.
votes: 3
Option 6: Illinois is full of sublime towering mountains and infinitely better in every conceivable way than Wisconsin. Anyone who questions this only does so out of an inferiority complex.
votes: 1
Option 7: Illinois is flat only because Teddy Roosevelt said it was.
votes: 0
Option 8: Illinois is flat only because of the wide angle lenses used by dashboard cameras.
votes: 2
Here are just a few examples. There are others like this all over small pockets of the state
https://goo.gl/maps/tuXkLx6iCJ2xR8ag6 – Here are some gently rolling hills in Kane County.
https://goo.gl/maps/uGNnseP6Tmk6tKkJ9 – These hills in White County are big enough for a no passing zone.
https://goo.gl/maps/VhT3k7weeAyzsceY8 – This elevation rise in Franklin County is nearly imperceptible.
https://goo.gl/maps/1CRKvyMLek1VMJU7A – Here is a small hill in Peoria County.
https://goo.gl/maps/vx7UDqzCjq4DKGmS7 – This valley along the Illinois River is barely worth mentioning.
https://goo.gl/maps/P8Xfce1rqPrBEEWb7 – There are some hills on the other side of this railroad. Trust me.
https://goo.gl/maps/W7MGNs66mazjgJEJ7 – This field in Williamson County isn't completely flat.
What time zone are you in? It's still the 31st here and in UTC.
Illinois is full of sublime towering mountains and infinitely better in every conceivable way than Wisconsin. Anyone who questions this only does so out of an inferiority complex.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 31, 2022, 01:40:09 PM
Illinois is full of sublime towering mountains and infinitely better in every conceivable way than Wisconsin. Anyone who questions this only does so out of an inferiority complex.
Added to the poll. Thanks.
Tyre is (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2696118,35.1968642,3a,75y,334.14h,74.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEgPbrWErxjXpwNDPAD91OA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) not flat. (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2717152,35.1957834,3a,75y,283.25h,80.26t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNqVCtef-Xr1ERUe5psdemSNPLtARRcJ1YTG30L!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNqVCtef-Xr1ERUe5psdemSNPLtARRcJ1YTG30L%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya243.68207-ro-0-fo100!7i10240!8i5120)
Galena?
Incorrect guesses
Galena
This thread is unexceptional and it greatly offends and does not offend me.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 01, 2022, 08:14:43 AM
This thread is unexceptional and it greatly offends and does not offend me.
Thank you. I've got you marked down as "o/n/o 15nw".
Reminder: Payment can only be made in Vienna Sausages
[1 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7720.msg211649#msg211649)].
The true pancake of the US is Kansas, change my mind.
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 01, 2022, 01:52:42 PM
The true pancake of the US is Kansas, change my mind.
Hard to be the true pancake when the high point elevation is over 4,000 feet.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 01, 2022, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 01, 2022, 01:52:42 PM
The true pancake of the US is Kansas, change my mind.
Hard to be the true pancake when the high point elevation is over 4,000 feet.
It's a pancake; it's just not quite level.
Quote from: 1 on April 01, 2022, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 01, 2022, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 01, 2022, 01:52:42 PM
The true pancake of the US is Kansas, change my mind.
Hard to be the true pancake when the high point elevation is over 4,000 feet.
It's a pancake; it's just not quite level.
Slanted pancake with an almost imperceptible elevation climb.
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 01, 2022, 01:52:42 PM
The true pancake of the US is Kansas, change my mind.
Florida says hello. :colorful:
Quote from: kphoger on April 01, 2022, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 01, 2022, 08:14:43 AM
This thread is unexceptional and it greatly offends and does not offend me.
Thank you. I've got you marked down as "o/n/o 15nw".
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Best I can do is a bag of frozen Banquet sausages.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 01, 2022, 02:17:38 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 01, 2022, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 01, 2022, 02:13:39 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on April 01, 2022, 01:52:42 PM
The true pancake of the US is Kansas, change my mind.
Hard to be the true pancake when the high point elevation is over 4,000 feet.
It's a pancake; it's just not quite level.
Slanted pancake with an almost imperceptible elevation climb.
Actually saw an article (hard copy) that compared Kansas to a pancake using GIS modeling... someone had too much time on their hands.
Louisiana seemed pretty flat when I was there last month. It's just harder to tell because there's more vegetation blocking your view.
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
A certain Entenmann's delivery truck grudge holder keeps coming back to make sure it never does.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
When Crash stops trying to argue that IDOT is the best DOT ever.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
Never
Lord Carhorn is iconic.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 05, 2022, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
A certain Entenmann's delivery truck grudge holder keeps coming back to make sure it never does.
How many Entenmann's Rich Frosted chocolate donuts do I need to eat to satisfy the demise of this meme?
Quote from: formulanone on April 07, 2022, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 05, 2022, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
A certain Entenmann's delivery truck grudge holder keeps coming back to make sure it never does.
How many Entenmann's Rich Frosted chocolate donuts do I need to eat to satisfy the demise of this meme?
Enough to stop the cycle of vengeance their delivery drivers tend to operate on. Now I'm to understand Carhorn has issues with what brands the "mentally challenged."
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2022, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 07, 2022, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 05, 2022, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
A certain Entenmann's delivery truck grudge holder keeps coming back to make sure it never does.
How many Entenmann's Rich Frosted chocolate donuts do I need to eat to satisfy the demise of this meme?
Enough to stop the cycle of vengeance their delivery drivers tend to operate on. Now I'm to understand Carhorn has issues with what brands the "mentally challenged."
So eight donuts, since IL 8 goes to Peoria. Donuts are acceptable in Peoria.
Gimme a week.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
Sadly, there is no "divination" tab on the admin panel.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 08, 2022, 10:06:04 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
Sadly, there is no "divination" tab on the admin panel.
Is that included in SMF 2.1.1?
Too late to add the following poll options?
- Illinois is flat only because Teddy Roosevelt said it was.
- Illinois is flat only because of the wide angle lenses used by dashboard cameras.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 11, 2022, 10:15:09 AM
Too late to add the following poll options?
- Illinois is flat only because Teddy Roosevelt said it was.
- Illinois is flat only because of the wide angle lenses used by dashboard cameras.
Overruled.
The first one would likely prompt |NE2| to disparage TR as a racist ass clown.
The second one is a position only held by another troll and myself.
This thread needs a bump given a certain pro flat Illinois advocate has returned to educate us.
Quote from: formulanone on April 07, 2022, 09:46:26 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2022, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 07, 2022, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 05, 2022, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 05, 2022, 04:24:15 PM
Are you there, mods? It's me, Paul. When, praytell, will this meme finally die?
A certain Entenmann's delivery truck grudge holder keeps coming back to make sure it never does.
How many Entenmann's Rich Frosted chocolate donuts do I need to eat to satisfy the demise of this meme?
Enough to stop the cycle of vengeance their delivery drivers tend to operate on. Now I'm to understand Carhorn has issues with what brands the "mentally challenged."
So eight donuts, since IL 8 goes to Peoria. Donuts are acceptable in Peoria.
Gimme a week.
I ate all twelve, since they were mini donuts.
US 12's a cromulent route between several states including the one in question.
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
Alot more counties than that.
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
All counties in Illinois are flat, I have seen the light finally.
FIFY
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
Alot more counties than that.
I've probably been to more counties in Illinois than you have. No it's not more counties than that. If you think there is another county in Illinois that is hilly besides Jo Daviess County then go ahead and name the county. It's 45th out of state high points only Rhode Island, Mississippi, Louisiana, Delaware and Florida have lower high points. Every state surrounding Illinois has a higher high point.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 27, 2022, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
All counties in Illinois are flat, I have seen the light finally.
FIFY
The things he argues about are crazy.
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 27, 2022, 06:59:48 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
Alot more counties than that.
I've probably been to more counties in Illinois than you have. No it's not more counties than that. If you think there is another county in Illinois that is hilly besides Jo Daviess County then go ahead and name the county. It's 45th out of state high points only Rhode Island, Mississippi, Louisiana, Delaware and Florida have lower high points. Every state surrounding Illinois has a higher high point.
High points don't have that much to do with flatness. Check Lowell/Lawrence/Haverhill MA. It's at about 100-120 feet above sea level at its lowest points, but it has several hills that reach slightly above 200 feet, so you'll be going up and down without ever getting near the high point of the state.
Just going to Google Maps and looking at the area in topographic map mode will tell you that eastern Massachusetts has a decent number of hills without getting to a mountainous elevation.
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 27, 2022, 06:59:48 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
Alot more counties than that.
I've probably been to more counties in Illinois than you have. No it's not more counties than that. If you think there is another county in Illinois that is hilly besides Jo Daviess County then go ahead and name the county. It's 45th out of state high points only Rhode Island, Mississippi, Louisiana, Delaware and Florida have lower high points. Every state surrounding Illinois has a higher high point.
I will list them all in alphabetical order.
Counties I've been to that aren't flat:
Bond
Boone
Bureau
Carroll
Clark
Clay
Clinton
Coles
Cook
Cumberland
DeKalb
DuPage
Effingham
Fayette
Gallatin (one of the counties within the Ozark plateau)
Greene
Henry
Jackson
Jasper
Jersey
Kane
Lake
LaSalle
Lee
Logan
Macoupin
Madison
McHenry
McLean
Monroe
Montgomery
Ogle
Peoria
Pope
Putnam
Richland
Sangamon
St Clair
Stephenson
Tazewell
Woodford
Will
Winnebago
Possibly more than that but that's all I can recall as I get ready for work
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 27, 2022, 07:00:49 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 27, 2022, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
All counties in Illinois are flat, I have seen the light finally.
FIFY
The things he argues about are crazy.
You should see his Facebook page. He tried to take on the entirety of the trucking world the other day despite being hugely in the wrong. It went about as smoothly as expected, but the go down with the burning ship approach was there. What amuses me is that he doesn't get this is obvious trolling at his expense, it's almost a sure fire bet he'll flip out at threads like this.
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Alot more counties than that.
Did you vote in the poll?
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 27, 2022, 06:59:48 AM
If you think there is another county in Illinois that is hilly besides Jo Daviess County then go ahead and name the county.
Pope County
most of Union County
Quote from: Crash_It on April 27, 2022, 07:33:27 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 27, 2022, 06:59:48 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
Alot more counties than that.
I've probably been to more counties in Illinois than you have. No it's not more counties than that. If you think there is another county in Illinois that is hilly besides Jo Daviess County then go ahead and name the county. It's 45th out of state high points only Rhode Island, Mississippi, Louisiana, Delaware and Florida have lower high points. Every state surrounding Illinois has a higher high point.
I will list them all in alphabetical order.
Counties I've been to that aren't flat:
Cook
DeKalb
DuPage
Will
Winnebago
Those are buildings, not hills.
What does Teddy Roosevelt have to say on this topic?
(https://i.imgur.com/3Hw0WHF.png)
A question directed towards Crash, what are you getting out of all this? Do you feel like you are somehow defending the honor of Illinois by dragging this whole definition of flatness thing on? At this point I feel like there has to be some sort of compulsory reason for you to continue to fight almost universal feedback to your opinion on the topic of this thread (as well as other things). I don't get it, is the constant verbal sparring something actually something you enjoy? There has to be a reason you do the things you do.
Quote from: SSOWorld on April 27, 2022, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 27, 2022, 07:33:27 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 27, 2022, 06:59:48 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 26, 2022, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on April 25, 2022, 10:49:33 PM
The only county in Illinois that I have found that is hilly to a certain degree is Jo Daviess County and that is where Charles Mound is located the highest elevation in Illinois at 1,235 feet. For state high points this is ranked 45th.
Alot more counties than that.
I've probably been to more counties in Illinois than you have. No it's not more counties than that. If you think there is another county in Illinois that is hilly besides Jo Daviess County then go ahead and name the county. It's 45th out of state high points only Rhode Island, Mississippi, Louisiana, Delaware and Florida have lower high points. Every state surrounding Illinois has a higher high point.
I will list them all in alphabetical order.
Counties I've been to that aren't flat:
Cook
DeKalb
DuPage
Will
Winnebago
Those are buildings, not hills.
Nope... I'll post Google street view examples of these counties
Cook
https://maps.app.goo.gl/163xukoZjWDsqkgi6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/yEH1dBsTPPpEb2NRA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/A9ARfiCfunv26NZT6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cGfy8wXrvfYyEdE69
DeKalb
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bHhTFrySFXXYBmHDA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jBGCPcRdhUnyb8yA9
DuPage
https://maps.app.goo.gl/GdhiHUipfMQcTXyF9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/smpMD73JZ7gVfmrH6
Pretty much a majority of this is a hill https://maps.app.goo.gl/QNiufPiFSwxVeugn7
https://maps.app.goo.gl/gs95G4nkMwAd4YaMA
Will
https://maps.app.goo.gl/L1hZqpqwCY6jhAtLA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qhx5v7qA8zg5uwPJA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jyYhv3mTZhMmyoXD6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1Rbpw3bmwpEFA4Gz5
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qih1ZcUfUbJKocfy6
Winnebago
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BWrJgA6Zq6sPrsKL9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/MqqvaSHDGFwzYyaE6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/yxWrmT2HXUMf4xuYA
This County is loaded
I'm sure there are more than what I've listed. That's just what I've driven.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 27, 2022, 09:00:34 PM
A question directed towards Crash, what are you getting out of all this? Do you feel like you are somehow defending the honor of Illinois by dragging this whole definition of flatness thing on? At this point I feel like there has to be some sort of compulsory reason for you to continue to fight almost universal feedback to your opinion on the topic of this thread (as well as other things). I don’t get it, is the constant verbal sparring something actually something you enjoy? There has to be a reason you do the things you do.
Because he's a troll and everyone keeps feeding him.
Quote from: US 89 on April 27, 2022, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 27, 2022, 09:00:34 PM
A question directed towards Crash, what are you getting out of all this? Do you feel like you are somehow defending the honor of Illinois by dragging this whole definition of flatness thing on? At this point I feel like there has to be some sort of compulsory reason for you to continue to fight almost universal feedback to your opinion on the topic of this thread (as well as other things). I don't get it, is the constant verbal sparring something actually something you enjoy? There has to be a reason you do the things you do.
Because he's a troll and everyone keeps feeding him.
It's fun to get him all spun up or watch others do it. How he doesn't see that people just do it to get a reaction is bewildering. Granted, I think there is enough evidence to suggest the things he does on the road are intentional for views. Either way it doesn't seem to be a formula for success given his low viewership and largely negative reactions on shared material.
Quote from: Crash_It on April 27, 2022, 09:15:20 PM
Counties I've been to that aren't flat:
I used to live near
this hill (https://goo.gl/maps/ZFHiUa6Gz3i5gQVMA) in Wheaton; after a good snowfall, it was common to see a dozen kids sledding down it. And I frequently found myself cycling up or down
this hill (https://goo.gl/maps/YaNJWvDzth1f1PjD7).
But the existence of those hills does not mean DuPage County isn't flat. It is. It just also has a few hills scattered around.
And again I ask you:
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2022, 09:56:03 AM
Did you vote in the poll?
Quote from: kphoger on April 28, 2022, 09:18:36 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on April 27, 2022, 09:15:20 PM
Counties I've been to that aren't flat:
I used to live near this hill (https://goo.gl/maps/ZFHiUa6Gz3i5gQVMA) in Wheaton; after a good snowfall, it was common to see a dozen kids sledding down it. And I frequently found myself cycling up or down this hill (https://goo.gl/maps/YaNJWvDzth1f1PjD7). But the existence of those hills does not mean DuPage County isn't flat. It is. It just also has a few hills scattered around.
So do you think eastern Massachusetts is flat or not, since it's just a whole bunch of hills and gradual elevation changes? I would definitely say no.
Quote from: 1 on April 28, 2022, 09:33:43 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 28, 2022, 09:18:36 AM
... has a few hills scattered around
... it's just a whole bunch of hills and gradual elevation changes
Note the difference.
Even the Chicago Tribune agrees that Illinois is flat.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2014-06-19-chi-study-says-illinois-is-second-flattest-state-on-mainland-20140619-story.html
Unfortunately my ears popped while driving I-90 across the Fox River in Elgin, does this mean that Illinois is in fact mountainous?