Football (North America: NFL, CFL, Arena Football, minor leagues)

[NWI_Irish96]

Speaking of teams moving, it looks like da Bears will be leaving downtown Chicago for the suburbs in a few years:

https://www.chicagobears.com/news/statement-released-regarding-arlington-park

This should have been done 20 years ago, before the area bounded by Roosevelt, 18th, Clark, and LSD got developed. Could have built a modern, 80,000 seat stadium with a retractable roof, parking, restaurants/bars and hotels. Now, Arlington Heights is really the only place to do this.

[Roadgeekteen]

Speaking of teams moving, it looks like da Bears will be leaving downtown Chicago for the suburbs in a few years:

https://www.chicagobears.com/news/statement-released-regarding-arlington-park

Soldier Field was already ruined by the renovations.

[SP Cook]

Like the 1970s "renovations"  to Yankee Stadium, these consisted of, more or less, building a 95% new stadium inside the shell of the old one.  At $424M in taxpayer money.  How any political entity spends that kind of money and doesn't tie the team up in a multi-generational lease is beyond me.

[abefroman329]

How any political entity spends that kind of money and doesn't tie the team up in a multi-generational lease is beyond me.

The Bears are tied up in a multi-year lease - they'll have to pay about $84M to the city to break it.  I don't think either party would be interested in a multi-generational lease.

[NWI_Irish96]

Speaking of teams moving, it looks like da Bears will be leaving downtown Chicago for the suburbs in a few years:

https://www.chicagobears.com/news/statement-released-regarding-arlington-park

Soldier Field was already ruined by the renovations.

A modern football stadium that could have been usable for 40+ years was never going to fit in the historic outer shell. There was an irrational public demand that the Bears continue to play inside that outer shell, so we ended up getting what's there now.

This time around, everybody realizes that continuing to play inside that shell is no longer an option.

[thspfc]

Soldier should be demolished the second the Bears play their last game there. Don't let it turn into another Silverdome, rotting emptily and becoming an ugly feature of the Chicago lakefront. The Chicago Fire can play in the new stadium, as moving out to the suburbs could be good for them since I'd assume that's where most of their fan base is, making it less of a chore to attend a game.

[abefroman329]

The Chicago Fire can play in the new stadium, as moving out to the suburbs could be good for them since I'd assume that's where most of their fan base is

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It's...not.  There's a reason they no longer play in Bridgeview.

[jakeroot]

Soldier should be demolished the second the Bears play their last game there. Don't let it turn into another Silverdome, rotting emptily and becoming an ugly feature of the Chicago lakefront. The Chicago Fire can play in the new stadium, as moving out to the suburbs could be good for them since I'd assume that's where most of their fan base is, making it less of a chore to attend a game.

This is really the only option. That whole area down there is far too valuable to let a stadium sit empty. As long as it's no longer historic, take it down and reconsider the whole south end of the Lakeshore.

I'm not really sure what I think about the move. Suburban stadiums are really boring. Chicago is a cool city, with great transit and lots to do right in the immediate vicinity.

[triplemultiplex]

There's already an Arlington Cowboys.

[Roadgeekteen]

There's already an Arlington Cowboys.

Move the Football team to Arlington Virginia and the Patriots to Arlington Mass

[NWI_Irish96]

There's already an Arlington Cowboys.

Move the Football team to Arlington Virginia and the Patriots to Arlington Mass

I'm not familiar with Arlington, MA, but finding anywhere in Arlington, VA, to build a football stadium would be quite the challenge.

[kevinb1994]

There's already an Arlington Cowboys.

Move the Football team to Arlington Virginia and the Patriots to Arlington Mass

I'm not familiar with Arlington, MA, but finding anywhere in Arlington, VA, to build a football stadium would be quite the challenge.

There's also an Arlington here in Florida (Jacksonville, in what used to be unincorporated Duval County, but was consolidated in 1968). But for logistical reasons the Jags play near what used to be the border between East Jacksonville (annexed in 1887) and Fairfield (which was briefly an incorporated town starting in 1880, gave its name to the old Gator Bowl (the game did not exist until after World War II) stadium upon its opening in 1928, and was also annexed in 1887).

[Roadgeekteen]

There's already an Arlington Cowboys.

Move the Football team to Arlington Virginia and the Patriots to Arlington Mass

I'm not familiar with Arlington, MA, but finding anywhere in Arlington, VA, to build a football stadium would be quite the challenge.

Yeah neither Arlington would realistically work.

[abefroman329]

There's already an Arlington Cowboys.

Move the Football team to Arlington Virginia and the Patriots to Arlington Mass

I'm not familiar with Arlington, MA, but finding anywhere in Arlington, VA, to build a football stadium would be quite the challenge.

I don't remember if this is in Arlington or Alexandria, but the site of the PRR's former Potomac Yard was one site considered for Nats Park.

[NWI_Irish96]

There's already an Arlington Cowboys.

Move the Football team to Arlington Virginia and the Patriots to Arlington Mass

I'm not familiar with Arlington, MA, but finding anywhere in Arlington, VA, to build a football stadium would be quite the challenge.

I don't remember if this is in Arlington or Alexandria, but the site of the PRR's former Potomac Yard was one site considered for Nats Park.

It's in Alexandria.

[oscar]

Alexandria was probably a candidate since Arlington told MLB to get lost when it was sniffing around for DC-area stadium sites. Arlington's logic applies as much to Alexandria, and more so for football than baseball -- a stadium used for only a few games a year, plus some special events, doesn't make sense from the economic development standpoint, with much better development opportunities available in Arlington (or Alexandria), like the new Amazon HQ2 plan that came around later.

[Roadgeekteen]

Urban loses again

[Alps]

Urban loses again

He took over the worst team in the NFL and learned that there isn't as much parity as he thought.

[Roadgeekteen]

Urban loses again

He took over the worst team in the NFL and learned that there isn't as much parity as he thought.

"It's like playing Alabama every week"

[Max Rockatansky]

Urban loses again

He took over the worst team in the NFL and learned that there isn't as much parity as he thought.

"It's like playing Alabama every week"

Alabama couldn't compete reasonably with any modern NFL team, even the worst ones.

[thspfc]

Urban loses again

Not disputing that Urban is mostly likely not going to last more than three seasons, however, you know that if the Jags won, you would say "Lawrence wins"  and not "Urban wins" . Seems like the narrative this year is that the struggles of the rookie quarterbacks are all the coaches' faults.

[webny99]

Still an OK performance by the Jaguars, as they led for the entire game even though they lost. That last drive by the Bengals was clinical. You'd think they'd been doing it for 50 years.

[ilpt4u]

Urban loses again

He took over the worst team in the NFL and learned that there isn't as much parity as he thought.

"It's like playing Alabama every week"

Alabama couldn't compete reasonably with any modern NFL team, even the worst ones.

Especially if Bama had to follow NFL roster rules: 53 man roster. Salary cap. Limited Practice Squad. Actually paying the talented players. Annual Rookie Draft with a selection order the inverse of previous season records/standings.

[ilpt4u]

Still an OK performance by the Jaguars, as they led for the entire game even though they lost. That last drive by the Bengals was clinical. You'd think they'd been doing it for 50 years.

Jags should have let Uzomah score on that Zero Blitz catch inside 2 minutes. With only 1 TO remaining, tackling him at the 21 yard line was a self-inflicted wound, as a fresh set of downs at that field position inside the 2MW is suicidal when the game score is Tied

Let him run into the EZ and score, and at least the Jags and Trevor get the ball back with about a 1:10 on the clock or so

So far, Urban is playing checkers. He might figure it out, maybe

Poor TO management in the 2nd Half matters in the NFL. Taking a Delay of Game in the 3rd Qtr is worth having TOs later in the game

[SP Cook]

So how long until he fakes a heart attack and moves down to an easier conference?

Again.