This road meet is currently planned to start somewhere in Duval County. I was told to include the bridges across the river, but I'm gonna have to throw some water on making any of those bridges a highlight of this potential meet. This meet will, at the very least, include expressway driving, more likely than not on Butler Boulevard up to, and including, the construction project in the vicinity of San Pablo Road.
I'm also considering incorporating some of the Beaches in the area for this meet, including Atlantic Beach. (
This may mean incorporating A1A and Atlantic Boulevard (formerly known as Beach Road outside of the old Jacksonville city limits) into the meet, along with seeing as much old alignments and side roads as possible.
*itinerary, BTW
I'm up for Orlando stuff next year. I'm probably back to annual Florida visits after this past month. Generally I'm up for anything so long as it's interesting. I'd like to see the widened version of FL 15 in Hoffner and Semoran on FL 436.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 21, 2019, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2019, 03:26:38 PM
I'm up for Orlando stuff next year. I'm probably back to annual Florida visits after this past month. Generally I'm up for anything so long as it's interesting. I'd like to see the widened version of FL 15 in Hoffner and Semoran on FL 436.
I believe Semoran will be on the itinerary but don't think FL 15 will be.
15 is more of a personal wish list, in particular the section between US 17/92 and FL 528. I didn't have it as one of my primary roads I wanted to visit on my last trip but I'm retrospect I should have given the odd alignments in addition to the improvements on Hoffner. The segment between US 17/92 and FL 408 has brick surfacing which is odd unto itself. I used to run 15 every week, it definitely is high on my personal list during the next visit. Orange Avenue/FL 527 might be up there too for me given the US 17/92 original surface alignment connection.
HOLY SHIT A WAWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 18, 2019, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 18, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 18, 2019, 08:40:58 AM
HOLY SHIT SHEETZ A WAWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIFY
Ha, I was thinking the same thing.
I've never really understood the appeal to Wawa. It has some okay sandwiches but I would never choose it over Publix unless I was in a hurry. The Wawa on Semoran and Lee Vista was mainly convenient for reasonable gas compared to the rip off stations approaching OIA. I've always felt I was missing the punch line somehow when I was living in Florida.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 18, 2019, 03:55:43 AM
FYI this is more or less an update; a Wawa is planned for Arlington Road and University Boulevard, and (if possible) it will be a stopping point for this planned meet. The Town and Country strip mall would also be used for parking (and to swap cars) if necessary.
I'm waiting for 2 people to RSVP and then you cancel the meet
Will this meet actually occur? Or will it become a repeat of the Jacksonville meet canceled due to phantom rainstorms after at least one person already departed for it?
I'll believe it when I see it happen.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 18, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on November 18, 2019, 07:36:46 PM
I'll believe it when I see it happen.
As long as things don't backfire like they did earlier this year.
I don't want to come across as mean or insensitive (just wanting to politely point something out to you so you're aware), but you unfortunately left a bad impression within the roadgeek community about any road meet that you might try to host in the future... because of what happened with the Jacksonville meet this past February that was cancelled at the last minute. From what I understand, your parents played a big role in the cancellation of that meet. But regardless of the reason, you made a commitment and backed out of that commitment at the last minute with a flimsy excuse. I'm hopeful that this won't happen again for you, but just be mindful that some of us in the community will be reluctant to plan on attending anything you host because of what happened for your first attempt of hosting a meet.
Maybe some folks will give you another chance. But why are we talking about a potential road meet that's a year and a half away? Let's get through 2020 first.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 18, 2019, 09:57:07 PM
I have an idea for 2020 that was posted to your 2020 meets thread. Hope you are aware of my plans for next year in the spring.
Who posted the idea? I just checked that thread and I don't see anything posted from you there. And what's the idea?
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on November 18, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 18, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on November 18, 2019, 07:36:46 PM
I'll believe it when I see it happen.
As long as things don't backfire like they did earlier this year.
I don't want to come across as mean or insensitive (just wanting to politely point something out to you so you're aware), but you unfortunately left a bad impression within the roadgeek community about any road meet that you might try to host in the future... because of what happened with the Jacksonville meet this past February that was cancelled at the last minute. From what I understand, your parents played a big role in the cancellation of that meet. But regardless of the reason, you made a commitment and backed out of that commitment at the last minute with a flimsy excuse. I'm hopeful that this won't happen again for you, but just be mindful that some of us in the community will be reluctant to plan on attending anything you host because of what happened for your first attempt of hosting a meet.
Maybe some folks will give you another chance. But why are we talking about a potential road meet that's a year and a half away? Let's get through 2020 first.
I started to say I haven't attempted anything since I had to cancel the New River Gorge/Beckley meet due to health issues, but then I remembered I did do the western Kentucky meet after that. Attendance was minimal (you came) and I hope my need to cancel the earlier meet didn't play a role in people deciding not to come.
As for Wawa, my opinion's well-known. Not as good as Sheetz, because the menu isn't as expansive.
Sorry, I'll be busy toppling capitalism.
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2019, 02:41:37 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on November 18, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 18, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on November 18, 2019, 07:36:46 PM
I'll believe it when I see it happen.
As long as things don't backfire like they did earlier this year.
I don't want to come across as mean or insensitive (just wanting to politely point something out to you so you're aware), but you unfortunately left a bad impression within the roadgeek community about any road meet that you might try to host in the future... because of what happened with the Jacksonville meet this past February that was cancelled at the last minute. From what I understand, your parents played a big role in the cancellation of that meet. But regardless of the reason, you made a commitment and backed out of that commitment at the last minute with a flimsy excuse. I'm hopeful that this won't happen again for you, but just be mindful that some of us in the community will be reluctant to plan on attending anything you host because of what happened for your first attempt of hosting a meet.
Maybe some folks will give you another chance. But why are we talking about a potential road meet that's a year and a half away? Let's get through 2020 first.
I started to say I haven't attempted anything since I had to cancel the New River Gorge/Beckley meet due to health issues, but then I remembered I did do the western Kentucky meet after that. Attendance was minimal (you came) and I hope my need to cancel the earlier meet didn't play a role in people deciding not to come.
I'm only speculating here, but my guess is that the attendance at your western Kentucky meet in 2017 had nothing to do with your cancellation of the New River Gorge/Beckley meet. You have a solid reputation of hosting good meets over the years which is one reason why I, and probably one reason why almost everyone who attended, decided to go. Cancelling a meet due to genuine health issues is definitely understandable and forgivable! You don't have a reputation of flaking out. What happened with your New River Gorge/Beckley meet was a fluke, and I would imagine that almost everyone in this community knows that... at least everyone who knows you well enough.
QuoteI'm waiting for 2 people to RSVP and then you cancel the meet
Best Road Meet Live Stream ever. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 18, 2019, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on November 18, 2019, 09:49:53 PMI don't want to come across as mean or insensitive (just wanting to politely point something out to you so you're aware), but you unfortunately left a bad impression within the roadgeek community about any road meet that you might try to host in the future... because of what happened with the Jacksonville meet this past February that was cancelled at the last minute. From what I understand, your parents played a big role in the cancellation of that meet. But regardless of the reason, you made a commitment and backed out of that commitment at the last minute with a flimsy excuse. I'm hopeful that this won't happen again for you, but just be mindful that some of us in the community will be reluctant to plan on attending anything you host because of what happened for your first attempt of hosting a meet.
No, it wasn't exactly a flimsy excuse. Nothing else to be said about that, though.
I believe that AJ was saying that your posted-reasoning for cancelling your meet due to a bogus weather forecast was the flimsy excuse not due to any parental/family role/issue.
Personally & not to beat a dead horse here but, you should've just stated that you had to cancel the meet due to a last-minute family matter (no details needed/required) and left it at that. While some would've still been disappointed about the late cancellation but many would've been more understanding & your reputation for planning/hosting a meet wouldn't have taken such a hit.
Something to think about for the future.
There was a bit more too it than that - he never had his parents in the loop regarding the meet in the first place, and when it turned out that he couldn't host it on his own, they weren't on board to take over.
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 20, 2019, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 18, 2019, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on November 18, 2019, 09:49:53 PMI don't want to come across as mean or insensitive (just wanting to politely point something out to you so you're aware), but you unfortunately left a bad impression within the roadgeek community about any road meet that you might try to host in the future... because of what happened with the Jacksonville meet this past February that was cancelled at the last minute. From what I understand, your parents played a big role in the cancellation of that meet. But regardless of the reason, you made a commitment and backed out of that commitment at the last minute with a flimsy excuse. I'm hopeful that this won't happen again for you, but just be mindful that some of us in the community will be reluctant to plan on attending anything you host because of what happened for your first attempt of hosting a meet.
No, it wasn't exactly a flimsy excuse. Nothing else to be said about that, though.
I believe that AJ was saying that your posted-reasoning for cancelling your meet due to a bogus weather forecast was the flimsy excuse not due to any parental/family role/issue.
Personally & not to beat a dead horse here but, you should've just stated that you had to cancel the meet due to a last-minute family matter (no details needed/required) and left it at that. While some would've still been disappointed about the late cancellation but many would've been more understanding & your reputation for planning/hosting a meet wouldn't have taken such a hit.
Something to think about for the future.
YES!!! Thank you for expounding on my comments. This is exactly what I meant.
Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2019, 12:33:19 PMThere was a bit more too it than that - he never had his parents in the loop regarding the meet in the first place, and when it turned out that he couldn't host it on his own, they weren't on board to take over.
While true; it isn't always a good idea to outline/explain every single detail... especially if the reasoning for a meet cancellation is of a family/semi-personal/private matter.
I.e. less is more. If a would-be participant wants more info/details; such is what the PM feature is for.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on November 20, 2019, 12:54:47 PMYES!!! Thank you for expounding on my comments. This is exactly what I meant.
No problem.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 21, 2019, 04:10:30 PMIt wasn''t supposed to be a family situation IMO.
Whether such was supposed to be or not doesn't matter. You could've given the real reason for cancelling in a more clear but discrete manner. As mentioned earlier, not everybody needs to know every bit of detail.