New Jersey has an abnormally high number of jughandles.
California; cutout shields, Postmile Paddles, and copious amounts of button copy.
Florida uses concrete signal poles that are square. Georgia uses round ones and spans all wiring to a box within, so Florida is unique in that way.
Ohio: dancing arrows, whatever this bell-shaped (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0931755,-82.908773,3a,23.9y,315.55h,104.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLCmBAZ-nlo8WHvU5-EsYag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) freeway lighting pole is called, button copy (much less than even 3 years ago though), abnormal amount of US/state routes mixture, one of 6 states to have the clown of the interstate system: I-75.
I don't think I've seen another state besides Indiana that have service signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5281315,-85.7403053,3a,22.1y,148.42h,92.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_Gh0VfH4qwpebdtUSzxRrw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) or place "WRONG WAY" signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5252914,-85.7346405,3a,27.3y,276.25h,88.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAoIkGlFJ7f4yBMl1cqcKHQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) behind exit gore signs.
North Carolina: roundabouts, obsession of new interstates, superstreets, and center turn lanes.
Minnesota: stoplight mast BGS, speed limit unisigns
Texas: continuous running one-way frontage roads with slip ramps, particularly in urban areas.
Missouri: having all four-lane expressways at 70 MPH, even on stretches with driveways.
Missouri: referring to a frontage road as an "outer road" .
Washington: All ferry routes are legally part of the state highway system, including a passenger-only route now run by the county (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_Route_339). Most of the ferries can't be easily replaced by bridges for the same reason we have floating bridges: very deep waterways carved by receding glaciers.
Also Texas:
Texas u-turns at every freeway exit.
Horizontal traffic lights
At grade intersections in the western regions
WI is one of two states with lettered county routes.
Quote from: roadman65 on July 22, 2021, 12:47:27 AM
Florida uses concrete signal poles that are square. Georgia uses round ones and spans all wiring to a box within, so Florida is unique in that way.
Florida also uses an eight bolt configuration for highway shields. That extra work seems to largely stop FDOT shields from flying away in storms and have the side effect of deterring theft.
Quote from: thspfc on July 22, 2021, 07:36:47 AM
WI is one of two states with lettered county routes.
If you're referring to Missouri as the second, note that they're actually state secondaries, not county routes, despite duplicating across counties.
CT: State-name Interstate shields, stub bridges, stub ramps, illegal to go left on red, lack of standard interchange designs.
MA: Double guard rails, short taper on-ramps, lack of lane striping for on-ramps, reduced salt areas, narrow or no shoulders on non-Interstate freeways, tight curve ramps.
Michigan:
-- Obviously, Michigan Lefts started here, although they've been implemented in other states
-- Doesn't recognize that there are other states that start with M, so we have MDOT, M-xx state highway numbers, etc.
-- "Route" is never used, not for state, US or Interstate highways
Texas used to be the only state to only have the exit number as a tab above the gore sign on freeways with numbered exits (other state did it sometimes, but Texas did it exclusively), but that changed 10 or so years ago. That kinda makes me mad.
-I would have to say also having the reference marker system, signed with a shield every 1 or 2 miles.
-Having essentially two different types of state highways that don't share a number pool. Texas isn't alone in this, but the list is very short amongst states that do.
-Having highways with a cutout of the state as their shield, but aren't considered state highways.
-Having two lane rural highways with 75 mph speed limits (again, not alone, but on the shortlist).
-Having multiple districts that basically don't communicate with each other very well, so you get stuff in one part of the state handled way differently in another part of the state.
-Hazardous Cargo signage
-Rarely signing a cosign or multi-plex on the same pole for reassurance shields, instead using a pole that mimics more of a football upright.
-Reflectors. I have heard more than one person say that Texas is unique in the amount of reflectors they use by people who came from other states. I have noticed less reflectors in other states myself, but haven't really thought about it first hand so this one is a third party observation.
-Probably using more Clearview than any other state.
-Having more "Parking Areas" on interstates than other states do.
-Of course the frontage/service/feeder/access/gateway roads along freeways.
The most interesting thing about this topic is you fail to realize something in your state as being unique until you really pay attention to the way other states do things because, as human nature, you tend to take the things in your own back yard as gospel and "the way everyone does it". It takes a long time to un-train your mind to accept the fact that maybe your back yard is the weird one and everyone else does it another way.
Quote from: 1 on July 22, 2021, 11:12:25 AM
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2021, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 12:54:15 AM
roundabouts ... center turn lanes.
Quote from: achilles765 on July 22, 2021, 06:03:18 AM
Horizontal traffic lights
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 22, 2021, 09:50:45 AM
State-name Interstate shields
Do we really need to define the word unique?
I think we actually need to define you. Read the thread title again.
When everyone is unique, no one is.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
Texas used to be the only state to only have the exit number as a tab above the gore sign on freeways with numbered exits (other state did it sometimes, but Texas did it exclusively), but that changed 10 or so years ago. That kinda makes me mad.
You mean like this (https://goo.gl/maps/WSzBnYYRDXbboeHQ9)? This has been the norm in Wyoming for as long as I can remember.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
Texas ...
-Having highways with a cutout of the state as their shield, but aren't considered state highways.
Wait, what? What system of non-state highways in Texas has a cutout of the state as their shield? The only ones I'm familiar with are the Farm/Ranch to Market system and the Recreational Road system, and both of those are considered state highways.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
-Having two lane rural highways with 75 mph speed limits (again, not alone, but on the shortlist).
What other state makes this list? I'm not aware of any.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
-Hazardous Cargo signage
I've wondered about this. Are there any other states that do this?
Quote from: US 89 on July 22, 2021, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
Texas used to be the only state to only have the exit number as a tab above the gore sign on freeways with numbered exits (other state did it sometimes, but Texas did it exclusively), but that changed 10 or so years ago. That kinda makes me mad.
You mean like this (https://goo.gl/maps/WSzBnYYRDXbboeHQ9)? This has been the norm in Wyoming for as long as I can remember.
Missouri used to do this exclusively too before switching to stacked gore signs.
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 22, 2021, 12:48:33 AM
Ohio: dancing arrows ....
That's not unique to Ohio. Maryland likes to use them too, with the most extreme example likely being this one on I-295 (https://goo.gl/maps/H16VMoPa5uBRzBXF8).
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2021, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
Texas ...
-Having highways with a cutout of the state as their shield, but aren't considered state highways.
Wait, what? What system of non-state highways in Texas has a cutout of the state as their shield? The only ones I'm familiar with are the Farm/Ranch to Market system and the Recreational Road system, and both of those are considered state highways.
As I stated before, yes they are part of the state highway system, but Texas defines them in their own category, meaning the true state highway shield, in Texas' legal terms, is the black writing on a square white field with TEXAS written below.
Basically if someone came from out of state and got on an FM highway and saw the shape of Texas on the shield, they may think they are on the state highway of Texas. Turns out they actually are on a state secondary road.
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 22, 2021, 09:50:45 AM
CT: State-name Interstate shields, stub bridges, stub ramps, illegal to go left on red, lack of standard interchange designs.
MA: Double guard rails, short taper on-ramps, lack of lane striping for on-ramps, reduced salt areas, narrow or no shoulders on non-Interstate freeways, tight curve ramps.
Also CT:
New left exits (and tons of old ones), reflective button copy BGS's (though being phased out), extremely slow speed limits even in rural areas, giant SPEED LIMIT AHEAD XX M.P.H yellow signs at reduced speed points. Only state to refer to NYC on BGS's as N.Y. City
Also MA: Thickly Settled signs, begin/end state highway signs in the middle of a route number to indicate transfer from town to state
maintenance.
NY: State/Village/Town Speed Limit signs
Missouri and it's continuous 3 lane roads and calls them shared 4 and has them as multilane on their maps.
Indiana: A numbering system that mirrors the US highway grid, small blue mileage markers for state and US highways.
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2021, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
-Having two lane rural highways with 75 mph speed limits (again, not alone, but on the shortlist).
What other state makes this list? I'm not aware of any.
Texas is the only state in the United States with a speed limit higher than 70 mph on a two-lane road.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 22, 2021, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2021, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
-Having two lane rural highways with 75 mph speed limits (again, not alone, but on the shortlist).
What other state makes this list? I'm not aware of any.
Texas is the only state in the United States with a speed limit higher than 70 mph on a two-lane road.
And the max in North Carolina is only 55mph. Well we are also more urbanized and have more curvy roads.
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 22, 2021, 12:08:31 PM
Texas is the only state in the United States with a speed limit higher than 70 mph on a two-lane road.
And the max in North Carolina is only 55mph.
Along with–what?–nine other states?
New York and their practice of using box girder guard rails.
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 22, 2021, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2021, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
-Having two lane rural highways with 75 mph speed limits (again, not alone, but on the shortlist).
What other state makes this list? I'm not aware of any.
Texas is the only state in the United States with a speed limit higher than 70 mph on a two-lane road.
And the max in North Carolina is only 55mph. Well we are also more urbanized and have more curvy roads.
Can't speak for other routes, but much of NC-11 could easily handle a Texas-style 70 mph speed limit.
Colorado: Altitude? Avalanche Tunnels? U.S. Highways that officially exist in a state and aren't signed even once (US87)?
Chris
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2021, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 22, 2021, 12:08:31 PM
Texas is the only state in the United States with a speed limit higher than 70 mph on a two-lane road.
And the max in North Carolina is only 55mph.
Along with–what?–nine other states?
I have seen some 75 mph speed limits in New Mexico on non-interstate highways. At this time, I can't remember if they were two or four lane highways.
Quote from: jayhawkco on July 22, 2021, 12:35:20 PM
Colorado: ... U.S. Highways that officially exist in a state and aren't signed even once (US87)?
Used to be. (https://goo.gl/maps/VEaczs5EZpmJgFKj7)
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 12:44:11 PM
I have seen some 75 mph speed limits in New Mexico on non-interstate highways. At this time, I can't remember if they were two or four lane highways.
Undivided highways cap out at 70 in NM.
West Virginia "Fractionals"
A blatant disregard for basic principles of graphic design
like proper centering and alignment.
Quote from: roadman65 on July 22, 2021, 12:26:24 PM
New York and their practice of using box girder guard rails.
NY uses box beam guide rails. I am sure other states have dabbled as well. :D
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2021, 12:56:45 PM
A blatant disregard for basic principles of graphic design
like proper centering and alignment.
Speaking of which... How did that three-quarters error at the Guthrie exit even happen in the first place? It was a sign replacement. How did three lines of legend end up being dissimilar on the same sign panels? It's like they just copied & pasted from the old spec sheets into the new one and then made an addition, or something. This has been puzzling me for a while.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okhighways.com%2F092802%2Fi35exit157.jpg&hash=6cf27f52aab6e7f0c779888bdc8ff93af846c7a3)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okroads.com%2F070203%2Fi35okexit157.JPG&hash=671ae0260045fb2456851cbd54ca605fcc61e4c8)
Quote from: Rothman on July 22, 2021, 01:13:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 22, 2021, 12:26:24 PM
New York and their practice of using box girder guard rails.
NY uses box beam guide rails.
Don't forget the Empire State, too.
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2021, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2021, 12:56:45 PM
A blatant disregard for basic principles of graphic design
like proper centering and alignment.
Speaking of which... How did that three-quarters error at the Guthrie exit even happen in the first place? It was a sign replacement. How did three lines of legend end up being dissimilar on the same sign panels? It's like they just copied & pasted from the old spec sheets into the new one and then made an addition, or something. This has been puzzling me for a while.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okhighways.com%2F092802%2Fi35exit157.jpg&hash=6cf27f52aab6e7f0c779888bdc8ff93af846c7a3)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okroads.com%2F070203%2Fi35okexit157.JPG&hash=671ae0260045fb2456851cbd54ca605fcc61e4c8)
I remember when "Perkins" was added to that sign, and at the time when it had just happened, I remembered noticing the panel that "Perkins" was on was a darker green than the other two. So my theory at the time was that the panels that the "Cushing" and the arrow were on were moved downward and a new panel with "
Perkins" inserted.
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2021, 02:44:23 PM
I remember when "Perkins" was added to that sign, and at the time when it had just happened, I remembered noticing the panel that "Perkins" was on was a darker green than the other two. So my theory at the time was that the panels that the "Cushing" and the arrow were on were moved downward and a new panel with "Perkins" inserted.
Ahhh... So they're actually the same old signs, just split in half with the new legend inserted on new metal.
Quote from: jayhawkco on July 22, 2021, 12:35:20 PM
Colorado: ... U.S. Highways that officially exist in a state and aren't signed even once (US87)?
Can't forget US 85 right next door in New Mexico
NY (at least until recently) didn't tell you when you're entering a 55 limit. Usually the sign says "END XX MPH LIMIT" and you are expected to know what that means on your own.
California, especially Los Angeles - Thousands of homeless camped under practically every interstate viaduct in the city. We have a lot of homeless in Palm Springs, but it pales compared to LA.
Quote from: skluth on July 22, 2021, 06:31:10 PM
California, especially Los Angeles - Thousands of homeless camped under practically every interstate viaduct in the city. We have a lot of homeless in Palm Springs, but it pales compared to LA.
Not unique to California unfortunately.
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 22, 2021, 12:34:45 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 22, 2021, 12:08:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 22, 2021, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
-Having two lane rural highways with 75 mph speed limits (again, not alone, but on the shortlist).
What other state makes this list? I'm not aware of any.
Texas is the only state in the United States with a speed limit higher than 70 mph on a two-lane road.
And the max in North Carolina is only 55mph. Well we are also more urbanized and have more curvy roads.
Can't speak for other routes, but much of NC-11 could easily handle a Texas-style 70 mph speed limit.
How about NC-241?
And I'm sure US-70 between Cove City and New Bern can handle an 80 mph speed limit.
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 22, 2021, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: skluth on July 22, 2021, 06:31:10 PM
California, especially Los Angeles - Thousands of homeless camped under practically every interstate viaduct in the city. We have a lot of homeless in Palm Springs, but it pales compared to LA.
Not unique to California unfortunately.
The size of them are something that I've only ever seen elsewhere in Seattle and Portland. Locally there was a big camp that was just cleared from transition of Golden State Boulevard on CA 99 near downtown Fresno. The Alaskan Way Viaduct in 2019 had probably the largest domestic homeless camp I've ever seen.
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 22, 2021, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: skluth on July 22, 2021, 06:31:10 PM
California, especially Los Angeles - Thousands of homeless camped under practically every interstate viaduct in the city. We have a lot of homeless in Palm Springs, but it pales compared to LA.
Not unique to California unfortunately.
The sheer numbers are unique to California. California has 28% of the US homeless population. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2021/04/16/the-us-cities-with-the-highest-homeless-populations-in-2020-infographic/?sh=49efa3fb188c) Only NY comes close with 16%. More importantly, California has 51% of the
unsheltered homeless. It reminded me of when I was in Afghanistan with all the refugees along the road in lean-to's leading into Kabul.
I believe these are unique to Oregon, and they're being replaced more and more, though there's still a fair amount around.
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/bendbulletin.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/1b/01b91993-2ba1-5db0-a31e-6fa5069bd0b8/5ddc607a67190.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800)
^^
Would be kinda confusing to me tbh. It might say that the speed is 55 (like I'm saying the sign is just there). I like having limit cause it gets the driver's attention more.
Quote from: skluth on July 22, 2021, 06:48:56 PM
The sheer numbers are unique to California. California has 28% of the US homeless population. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2021/04/16/the-us-cities-with-the-highest-homeless-populations-in-2020-infographic/?sh=49efa3fb188c) Only NY comes close with 16%. More importantly, California has 51% of the unsheltered homeless. It reminded me of when I was in Afghanistan with all the refugees along the road in lean-to's leading into Kabul.
California probably has about 28% of the
total US population who live in places where they can get around by just walking and public transit (this includes places where it's doable but not that convenient), so it doesn't seem unusual.
Washington, as of lately: Centered, full-width exit tabs (https://goo.gl/maps/7dJTqNXhpDR7aitW7). Apart from the Southwest Region.
Washington, Oregon, and Michigan: the only states to permit left on red arrows from two-way to one-way streets (3/50 is close!)
Also Washington: the only state to use these box-style monotube sign bridges (https://goo.gl/maps/WBNxFizEk63NmhDr7) (Oregon uses a similar design for partial-width sign bridges).
And another for Washington: the "one vehicle in median at a time" sign (https://goo.gl/maps/kkeWFvVzaWQS5xh39) is not something I've seen anywhere else (waiting for a correction in 3...2...1...)
Quote from: 1 on July 22, 2021, 07:26:32 PM
Quote from: skluth on July 22, 2021, 06:48:56 PM
The sheer numbers are unique to California. California has 28% of the US homeless population. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2021/04/16/the-us-cities-with-the-highest-homeless-populations-in-2020-infographic/?sh=49efa3fb188c) Only NY comes close with 16%. More importantly, California has 51% of the unsheltered homeless. It reminded me of when I was in Afghanistan with all the refugees along the road in lean-to's leading into Kabul.
California probably has about 28% of the total US population who live in places where they can get around by just walking and public transit (this includes places where it's doable but not that convenient), so it doesn't seem unusual.
Part of the reason I think it is so common to see is that the homeless can be out in the open way more easily on the west coast than other parts of the county. Hence why I mentioned what I've seen in Portland and Seattle, both cities also have largely temperate climates. There was a ton of homeless when I lived in Chicago and Detroit also. The difference was that they largely had to find somewhere to take cover during the colder months. If you looked down enclosed alleys or derelict buildings they were pretty easy to find.
Quote from: jakeroot on July 22, 2021, 07:31:49 PM
And another for Washington: the "one vehicle in median at a time" sign (https://goo.gl/maps/kkeWFvVzaWQS5xh39) is not something I've seen anywhere else (waiting for a correction in 3...2...1...)
Ohio uses yellow "Only One Car in Median" signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2260636,-84.368631,3a,49.9y,205.34h,85.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy9JrvZJH3DlwdC-01i_nvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), which is the same idea, but not the same wording (and color). So you're good for now.
There are a few things that, together, basically scream NY but which individually do exist in other states. I'm thinking of rounded sign corners (FL), aligning the exit tab with the edge of the rounded part of the sign (SC), extensive use of box beam (WY), and little green reference markers (VT).
And, of course, the state/village/city/etc. speed limit signs.
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 22, 2021, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: skluth on July 22, 2021, 06:31:10 PM
California, especially Los Angeles - Thousands of homeless camped under practically every interstate viaduct in the city. We have a lot of homeless in Palm Springs, but it pales compared to LA.
Not unique to California unfortunately.
I was working a job in downtown OKC a couple of weeks ago, and the new OKC Boulevard overpass over Western/Classen has so many homeless people living under it that the nearby McDonald's has a uniformed security guard. That was something I'd never seen before.
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 22, 2021, 12:48:33 AM
Ohio: dancing arrows, whatever this bell-shaped (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0931755,-82.908773,3a,23.9y,315.55h,104.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLCmBAZ-nlo8WHvU5-EsYag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) freeway lighting pole is called, button copy (much less than even 3 years ago though), abnormal amount of US/state routes mixture, one of 6 states to have the clown of the interstate system: I-75.
I don't think I've seen another state besides Indiana that have service signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5281315,-85.7403053,3a,22.1y,148.42h,92.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_Gh0VfH4qwpebdtUSzxRrw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) or place "WRONG WAY" signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5252914,-85.7346405,3a,27.3y,276.25h,88.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAoIkGlFJ7f4yBMl1cqcKHQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) behind exit gore signs.
Some more for Ohio that probably aren't 100% unique to the state, but I have seen very few other states do the same practice:
- Span wire signals (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2730528,-84.3269399,3a,54.3y,167.91h,103.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1f00DrB0WoNjCMUwk5Prcw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) that are placed a bit away from the pole
- Back to back BGS signage for freeway onramps on either an overhead gantry (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2494528,-84.3652961,3a,50.3y,55.79h,106.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6vD_nY51N6qOM5TbbSq1NA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) or the traffic signal pole (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2016872,-84.3731557,3a,48.9y,303.8h,97.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2_8jnKVmDaZEKTydcXUolQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 22, 2021, 11:35:47 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 22, 2021, 12:48:33 AM
Ohio: dancing arrows ....
That's not unique to Ohio. Maryland likes to use them too, with the most extreme example likely being this one on I-295 (https://goo.gl/maps/H16VMoPa5uBRzBXF8).
Illinois used to use them (https://goo.gl/maps/j3ZCfwuZqjBG4iKZ8) occasionally (https://goo.gl/maps/csNkGX6dTFVnZckQ6), and Missouri would also use them on occasion. (https://goo.gl/maps/NYDWqeKeAEmGipbp9)
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 22, 2021, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 22, 2021, 07:31:49 PM
And another for Washington: the "one vehicle in median at a time" sign (https://goo.gl/maps/kkeWFvVzaWQS5xh39) is not something I've seen anywhere else (waiting for a correction in 3...2...1...)
Ohio uses yellow "Only One Car in Median" signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2260636,-84.368631,3a,49.9y,205.34h,85.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy9JrvZJH3DlwdC-01i_nvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), which is the same idea, but not the same wording (and color). So you're good for now.
What a stupid sign! Talk about stating the obvious. If you're dumb enough to pull behind a car waiting there and sit directly in front of traffic, the sign isn't going to stop you.
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on July 22, 2021, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on July 22, 2021, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 22, 2021, 07:31:49 PM
And another for Washington: the "one vehicle in median at a time" sign (https://goo.gl/maps/kkeWFvVzaWQS5xh39) is not something I've seen anywhere else (waiting for a correction in 3...2...1...)
Ohio uses yellow "Only One Car in Median" signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2260636,-84.368631,3a,49.9y,205.34h,85.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy9JrvZJH3DlwdC-01i_nvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), which is the same idea, but not the same wording (and color). So you're good for now.
What a stupid sign! Talk about stating the obvious. If you're dumb enough to pull behind a car waiting there and sit directly in front of traffic, the sign isn't going to stop you.
I believe the idea is actually to discourage multiple cars from waiting side-by-side for gaps in traffic, as opposed to end-to-end.
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-Having two lane rural highways with 75 mph speed limits (again, not alone, but on the shortlist).
What other state makes this list? I'm not aware of any.
Texas is the only state in the United States with a speed limit higher than 70 mph on a two-lane road.
And the max in North Carolina is only 55mph. Well we are also more urbanized and have more curvy roads.
Can't speak for other routes, but much of NC-11 could easily handle a Texas-style 70 mph speed limit.
How about NC-241?
And I'm sure US-70 between Cove City and New Bern can handle an 80 mph speed limit.
Can't speak for that route, never been on it. But I wouldn't be surprised.
As for US-70, seems accurate. That segment is fairly straight and fully limited access. Unfortunately, not even Texas posts above 75 mph on most freeways asides from those rural parts of I-10 west of San Antonio, I-20 west of Odessa, and the SH-130 / SH-45 system near Austin.
Quote from: jakeroot on July 22, 2021, 11:59:19 PM
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Quote from: jakeroot on July 22, 2021, 07:31:49 PM
And another for Washington: the "one vehicle in median at a time" sign (https://goo.gl/maps/kkeWFvVzaWQS5xh39) is not something I've seen anywhere else (waiting for a correction in 3...2...1...)
Ohio uses yellow "Only One Car in Median" signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2260636,-84.368631,3a,49.9y,205.34h,85.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy9JrvZJH3DlwdC-01i_nvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), which is the same idea, but not the same wording (and color). So you're good for now.
What a stupid sign! Talk about stating the obvious. If you're dumb enough to pull behind a car waiting there and sit directly in front of traffic, the sign isn't going to stop you.
I believe the idea is actually to discourage multiple cars from waiting side-by-side for gaps in traffic, as opposed to end-to-end.
Yeah, that's what I think too. I'd consider pulling next to the waiting car in the GSV shot, if I were turning left there. Might not do it, but I'd consider it.
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Quote from: SkyPesos on July 22, 2021, 07:41:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 22, 2021, 07:31:49 PM
And another for Washington: the "one vehicle in median at a time" sign (https://goo.gl/maps/kkeWFvVzaWQS5xh39) is not something I've seen anywhere else (waiting for a correction in 3...2...1...)
Ohio uses yellow "Only One Car in Median" signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2260636,-84.368631,3a,49.9y,205.34h,85.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy9JrvZJH3DlwdC-01i_nvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), which is the same idea, but not the same wording (and color). So you're good for now.
What a stupid sign! Talk about stating the obvious. If you're dumb enough to pull behind a car waiting there and sit directly in front of traffic, the sign isn't going to stop you.
I believe the idea is actually to discourage multiple cars from waiting side-by-side for gaps in traffic, as opposed to end-to-end.
Yeah, that's what I think too. I'd consider pulling next to the waiting car in the GSV shot, if I were turning left there. Might not do it, but I'd consider it.
Virginia has similarly-intended signs that say "No Double Stacking in Crossover" in a few spots. (https://goo.gl/maps/hq1L6dimtpxVJX5v9) I don't know how common these are, as I've only seen them on US-50 in the South Riding area of Loudoun County, but the meaning is clear enough even if they make me think of a cheeseburger rather than traffic management.
In that particular example, it's even more important because there is only one lane after you turn left, so people double-stacking could cause conflict if they both tried to go at the same time (which I'd expect to happen, as why else would you double-stack?).
Do other states use signs like Washington where the directional tab and the route number are on one piece of metal?
(https://www.aaroads.com/shields/img/WA/WA19700071i1.jpg)
Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:14:35 AM
Do other states use signs like Washington where the directional tab and the route number are on one piece of metal?
I believe Wisconsin uses it extensively.
Some VDOT districts in Virginia also use these unisigns regularly, mostly on trailblazers and not as much on reassurance markers.
Maryland has lots of trailblazer signs like this but not many reassurance markers.
Washington DC used to mark all its US routes as unisigns but I don't know if any remain - signage in general is quite lacking there now.
Quote from: Mapmikey on July 23, 2021, 10:21:56 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:14:35 AM
Do other states use signs like Washington where the directional tab and the route number are on one piece of metal?
I believe Wisconsin uses it extensively.
Some VDOT districts in Virginia also use these unisigns regularly, mostly on trailblazers and not as much on reassurance markers.
Maryland has lots of trailblazer signs like this but not many reassurance markers.
Washington DC used to mark all its US routes as unisigns but I don't know if any remain - signage in general is quite lacking there now.
There's at least one outside the Brewmaster's Castle on New Hampshire Avenue NW. For a unisign, I think this one looks reasonably good, but of course it bears noting that this road is not part of US-29 and neither is the road up ahead at Dupont Circle.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FC243DE13-A3F8-4CFF-88B4-D895AEC13B93_zpsufawbwiu.jpg&hash=9295c20c17cb4468ae3c7553e7c34e412f44958a)
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 23, 2021, 09:38:04 AM
In that particular example, it's even more important because there is only one lane after you turn left, so people double-stacking could cause conflict if they both tried to go at the same time (which I'd expect to happen, as why else would you double-stack?).
To take advantage of the gap you found in near-side traffic, allowing you to only have to wait for the next gap in far-side traffic.
But that's assuming one is turning onto the divided highway, not turning off of it. It appears both of the examples provided up-thread were of the former, while your Virginia example is the latter.
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 23, 2021, 10:29:30 AM
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Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:14:35 AM
Do other states use signs like Washington where the directional tab and the route number are on one piece of metal?
I believe Wisconsin uses it extensively.
Some VDOT districts in Virginia also use these unisigns regularly, mostly on trailblazers and not as much on reassurance markers.
Maryland has lots of trailblazer signs like this but not many reassurance markers.
Washington DC used to mark all its US routes as unisigns but I don't know if any remain - signage in general is quite lacking there now.
There's at least one outside the Brewmaster's Castle on New Hampshire Avenue NW. For a unisign, I think this one looks reasonably good, but of course it bears noting that this road is not part of US-29 and neither is the road up ahead at Dupont Circle.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FC243DE13-A3F8-4CFF-88B4-D895AEC13B93_zpsufawbwiu.jpg&hash=9295c20c17cb4468ae3c7553e7c34e412f44958a)
That looks really nice. I'm a fan of the unisign, personally, and would like to see more states using it.
Ontario:
1) Unique signs
2) A disconnected/useless provincial highway network
3) Open/airy design to freeways
4) Lots of high-mast lighting
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2021, 12:56:45 PM
A blatant disregard for basic principles of graphic design
like proper centering and alignment.
While not at Oklahoma's level, Oregon does this a fair bit.
(https://i.imgur.com/MqUpbrb.jpeg)
Quote from: Bruce on July 23, 2021, 11:16:23 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2021, 12:56:45 PM
A blatant disregard for basic principles of graphic design
like proper centering and alignment.
While not at Oklahoma's level, Oregon does this a fair bit.
(https://i.imgur.com/MqUpbrb.jpeg)
Looks like those are consistent and to illustrate which items would be on one line, but aren't to reduce the width of the signs.
^^^
The issue I have is that rarely is there not enough room to have the message be entirely horizontal. Even on the sign above, "Univ. of Oregon" and "Glenwood Blvd." could be on one line easily, and all four messages could be horizontal with just a bit more width.
Having them on separate lines has made the signs taller, wasting space. Never mind all the extra green space on the left and right edges.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:14:35 AM
Do other states use signs like Washington where the directional tab and the route number are on one piece of metal?
Not the norm in Michigan, but there are some occurrences. For example (https://goo.gl/maps/5XeBkcbDVM1F6cxQA).
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Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 23, 2021, 10:14:35 AM
Do other states use signs like Washington where the directional tab and the route number are on one piece of metal?
Not the norm in Michigan, but there are some occurrences. For example (https://goo.gl/maps/5XeBkcbDVM1F6cxQA).
I saw one on my summer trip, but don't remember were. I went to OK, KS, NM, CO, AZ, UT and NV, so it was one of those.
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Ohio: dancing arrows ....
That's not unique to Ohio. Maryland likes to use them too, with the most extreme example likely being this one on I-295 (https://goo.gl/maps/H16VMoPa5uBRzBXF8).
Kansas used to
love dancing arrows, back when those were MUTCD-compliant. I think it's starting to move away from them, but I have seen replacements with dancing arrows pop up well after the 2009 MUTCD should have taken effect. One thing I do love about Kansas signage is that it usually actually makes an effort to point the diagonal arrows to the lanes to which they refer. Some examples:
https://goo.gl/maps/9Nh6zKLiHycmJi1b9
https://goo.gl/maps/2HqXQh12mNp3bLdE7 (Not my favorite, because of the text error)
https://goo.gl/maps/2ggT9JzD775xjK4j9
https://goo.gl/maps/tstaAZPmtecxAQYr9 (This actually should have been the advance sign, and that mistake has been corrected since the last Street View pass.)
https://goo.gl/maps/FBHhabX53DFtsLD37 (Old sign before the Big Boss APL sign was put up: https://goo.gl/maps/KHQXuTVHyYyXHTYn9 )
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 22, 2021, 11:15:00 AM
Texas used to be the only state to only have the exit number as a tab above the gore sign on freeways with numbered exits (other state did it sometimes, but Texas did it exclusively), but that changed 10 or so years ago. That kinda makes me mad.
-I would have to say also having the reference marker system, signed with a shield every 1 or 2 miles.
-Having essentially two different types of state highways that don't share a number pool. Texas isn't alone in this, but the list is very short amongst states that do.
-Having highways with a cutout of the state as their shield, but aren't considered state highways.
-Having two lane rural highways with 75 mph speed limits (again, not alone, but on the shortlist).
-Having multiple districts that basically don't communicate with each other very well, so you get stuff in one part of the state handled way differently in another part of the state.
-Hazardous Cargo signage
-Rarely signing a cosign or multi-plex on the same pole for reassurance shields, instead using a pole that mimics more of a football upright.
-Reflectors. I have heard more than one that Texas is unique in the amount of reflectors they use by people who came from other states. I have noticed less reflectors in other states myself, but haven't really thought about it first hand so this one is a third party observation.
-Probably using more Clearview than any other state.
-Having more "Parking Areas" on interstates than other states do.
-Of course the frontage/service/feeder/access/gateway roads along freeways.
The most interesting thing about this topic is you fail to realize something in your state as being unique until you really pay attention to the way other states do things because, as human nature, you tend to take the things in your own back yard as gospel and "the way everyone does it". It takes a long time to un-train your mind to accept the fact that maybe your back yard is the weird one and everyone else does it another way.
That last sentence is so true. I have lived in Texas now for 11 years and am so used to driving here that when my best friend and I had to go to Louisiana last month for a funeral it actually was odd too not see frontage roads. At one point, my best friend made a comment about "the feeder" outside lake Charles and I had to remind him Louisiana doesn't have feeders....it was a collector/distributor lane.
I know it's not really a "feature" and in fact has some legibility issues, but the combination of same-sign-height and internal exit tabs makes for very neatly organized sign gantries in California! (At the severe cost of cramped text)
I also really liked the taller, small-font exit number gore signs for aesthetic reasons too, though parts of the Bay Area and elsewhere are starting to see the more national MUTCD-style large-number gore point signs.
Is mission guardrail unique to this state?
California was one of the last button copy holdouts and quite a few examples of that still remain.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 22, 2021, 02:37:25 AM
Missouri: having all four-lane expressways at 70 MPH, even on stretches with driveways.
The sections with driveways and at grade junctions ("rural expressways") are only posted as 65 MPH
Unless posted speed limits direct otherwise -Missouri's Driver Guide
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Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 22, 2021, 02:37:25 AM
Missouri: having all four-lane expressways at 70 MPH, even on stretches with driveways.
The sections with driveways and at grade junctions ("rural expressways") are only posted as 65 MPH.
There are some non-limited-access expressways in Missouri that are 70 mph, though a lot stay at 65 mph.
It would be nice if they used the 70 mph non-limited-access speed limit more, however.
For Alabama probably extremely frequent usage of right turn slip lanes+yield signs. When I lived in Kentucky I noticed those were incredibly rare outside of usage on freeway exit ramps. The general preference seems to be a full stop at the line for right turns on red.
Having opposing lanes separate via double-double yellow lines and hash marks, prior to a left turn lane. https://goo.gl/maps/ykMuGZ5pQHW1DHQa8 . While found elsewhere sometimes, this appears very widespread across New Jersey.
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Quote from: KCRoadFan on July 22, 2021, 02:37:25 AM
Missouri: having all four-lane expressways at 70 MPH, even on stretches with driveways.
The sections with driveways and at grade junctions ("rural expressways") are only posted as 65 MPH Unless posted speed limits direct otherwise -Missouri's Driver Guide.
There are some non-limited-access expressways in Missouri that are 70 mph, though a lot stay at 65 mph.
It would be nice if they used the 70 mph non-limited-access speed limit more, however.
I agree that the rural expressway speed limit should be increased to 70. Despite taking MO 7 to KC multiple times, I forgot for a minute that it has a 70MPH limit, but are there any others with that higher limit?
^ US-54 between Mexico and Jefferson City has a 70 mph speed limit. US-71 / now I-49 had a 70 mph limit IIRC before it was upgraded to interstate standards.
There's probably others.
I'm surprised something like US-36 doesn't have a 70 mph speed limit, given it's a cross-state arterial highway that effectively functions as a rural interstate.
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I remember when "Perkins" was added to that sign, and at the time when it had just happened, I remembered noticing the panel that "Perkins" was on was a darker green than the other two. So my theory at the time was that the panels that the "Cushing" and the arrow were on were moved downward and a new panel with "Perkins" inserted.
Ahhh... So they're actually the same old signs, just split in half with the new legend inserted on new metal.
That is correct. I noticed that when I first saw those signs and took those pictures. They are still standing today, nearly 20 years later. Looking at the back of those signs, you can still tell the metal looks a little cleaner in the middle than the rest of the sign: https://goo.gl/maps/sSVuWKZbxs6ZaoYn6 (https://goo.gl/maps/sSVuWKZbxs6ZaoYn6).
Also for Oklahoma: a reputation for using unnecessary varying font sizes and cases on signs (see I-235 NB @ Sheridan in OKC https://goo.gl/maps/afxi5tm4YegonJBbA (https://goo.gl/maps/afxi5tm4YegonJBbA), I-244 WB @ US 169 in Tulsa https://goo.gl/maps/p7D4oeYWixfgikkAA (https://goo.gl/maps/p7D4oeYWixfgikkAA) and https://goo.gl/maps/VQHBGB49c7suz9Q17 (https://goo.gl/maps/VQHBGB49c7suz9Q17), not to mention CraIG CouNty which has since been replaced...).
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roundabouts ... center turn lanes.
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Horizontal traffic lights
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on July 22, 2021, 09:50:45 AM
State-name Interstate shields
Do we really need to define the word unique?
I think we actually need to define you. Read the thread title again.
When everyone is unique, no one is.
Always remember, you are unique, just like everyone else.
Quote from: stridentweasel on July 24, 2021, 06:24:32 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/FBHhabX53DFtsLD37 (Old sign before the Big Boss APL sign was put up: https://goo.gl/maps/KHQXuTVHyYyXHTYn9 )
Last time I was in KC, I took a picture of that APL sign and captioned it "Welcome to ARROW HELL".
Quote from: jayhawkco on July 22, 2021, 12:35:20 PM
Colorado: Altitude? Avalanche Tunnels? U.S. Highways that officially exist in a state and aren't signed even once (US87)?
Chris
It's almost the opposite effect in Arkansas. US 59 is signed but is not officially on their books. It's completely with US 71 or US 270 the entire time.
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Not MY state, but are there other states that do what Maryland does, not all the time, and I don't know if they still do, but did a lot........ where the BGS for the immediate exit gets a bigger font & shields than other signs on the gantry?
Example in the western part of the state: https://goo.gl/maps/ikFREDaVFsNUi3et6
Example in the middle part: https://goo.gl/maps/2bnHB9MS5epkxDW59
Example from Delmarva: https://goo.gl/maps/ADZ4rFEpn5XYZmRi8
I don't believe I've seen that anywhere else, either in person or in pictures. But there's a lot out there I ain't seen yet.
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on July 22, 2021, 05:31:39 PM
NY (at least until recently) didn't tell you when you're entering a 55 limit. Usually the sign says "END XX MPH LIMIT" and you are expected to know what that means on your own.
That's what the "State Speed Limit" signs are supposed to convey. The limit is 55 unless otherwise posted.
New York: Parkways and 55 mph speed limits on twisty windy rural roads
BC almost never uses metal guardrails. They just use jersey barriers EVERYWHERE.
Quote from: MaddogMicharski on August 20, 2021, 03:48:47 AM
55 mph speed limits on twisty windy rural roads
Missouri says hi. :wave:
https://goo.gl/maps/uBQrziLwxQQKwZZd6
https://goo.gl/maps/8hezvkxjMW52kUdK9
Advisory [
30 M.P.H. NEXT 2 MILES] and regulatory [
SPEED LIMIT 55] in the same shot: https://goo.gl/maps/GYXD1zCJurWRZids9