Stadium and team naming

[hotdogPi]

Well, it's better than these names:

Washington Football Club
Washington Monuments
Washington Cascades
Virginia Wolfs

[Bruce]

Washington Cascades

That's for us in the other Washington.

Anyway, Seattle has now released the Kraken. The logos are nice, at least.

[Henry]

Anyway, Seattle has now released the Kraken. The logos are nice, at least.

I never thought I'd warm up to the name, but I love it! I guess the question is, will they pull a Detroit and throw squid onto the ice when a goal is scored? (I know Detroit actually throws octopuses, but I think Kraken would be more similar to squid.)

[triplemultiplex]

Good job Seattle.  Best new sports team name of the century so far!



"Washington Football Team" is so awesome.  I really gotta give credit to someone over there to have zero vision for the future and not have something lined up or be unable to come up with something in 2 months.  Really?  You've got nothing?  I bet you could take some random class of first graders and have them come up with something better.

Or is it that you have to sue some douchebag who's squatted on the trademark you want?

[DandyDan]

I read somewhere that Washington Sentinels was seriously being considered for the team in Washington. That was the team in the Keanu Reeves movie The Replacements. I suppose that would still be better than the Washington Generals.

[kphoger]

How about the "Washington Not Redskins"?

[formulanone]

This will surely be followed up with:

Chicago Not the Baseball Squad, The Other Sport With Sticks Team

Cleveland Team That Didn't Move

Atlanta Baseball Team via Beantown

[SEWIGuy]

This will surely be followed up with:

Chicago Not the Baseball Squad, The Other Sport With Sticks Team

Cleveland Team That Didn't Move

Atlanta Baseball Team via Beantown

Uh...made another stop along the way.

[kevinb1994]

This will surely be followed up with:

Chicago Not the Baseball Squad, The Other Sport With Sticks Team

Cleveland Team That Didn't Move

Atlanta Baseball Team via Beantown

Uh...made another stop along the way.

Yes, they made a stop in WAUK. I'm also gonna add a satellite team here in JAX because they helped tremendously despite not staying for long.

[formulanone]

This will surely be followed up with:

Chicago Not the Baseball Squad, The Other Sport With Sticks Team

Cleveland Team That Didn't Move

Atlanta Baseball Team via Beantown

Uh...made another stop along the way.

ok...Boston and Milwaukee Team Which Naturally Made a Stop in Atlanta; We Will Be Arriving in the MLB Terminal, so if Atlanta is Not Your Final Destination, Please Be Courteous To Fellow Passengers Who Might Have to Continue to Calgary or Winnipeg

[hobsini2]

I'll still be saying "Miller Park" long after this new sponsorship expires and it's yet some other clumsy-sounding bullshit.

Road related:  The short stub of the WI-175 freeway that runs south of I-94 is known as "Miller Park Way."  This continues onto a surface street for just over a mile into the Village of West Milwaukee.

The Brewers requested that both the City of Milwaukee and the Village of West Milwaukee rename the street "Brewers Boulevard."  Milwaukee agreed.  West Milwaukee did not, mostly because of some dispute over who would pay for the signage, etc. 

I think the street should just revert back to 43rd Street, which is what it was prior to Miller Park's construction.

43rd is fine. I would call it Stadium Pkwy since it really acts like a parkway south to Lincoln Ave and can lean on the history of it once being the Stadium Frwy.

[hobsini2]

Actually, the team name I have heard that I think works wonderfully is Washington Redtails. It was the nickname for the Tuskegee Airmen. The color scheme wouldn't need to change. Only the logo.

As for the Chicago Blackhawks, Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves and Kansas City Chiefs...
The name Blackhawks is officially after an army division, 86th Inf. Division. Also, there was a Midwest local Native American Chief of the Sauk that it also honors. Chief Blackhawk was a significant Native American hero.

The Indians had changed the logo from Chief Wahoo. That was the most offensive thing that people wanted to change.

The Chiefs and Braves are a general honor term. What I think is offensive is people using the Tomahawk chop. That needs to go.

[Alps]

Actually, the team name I have heard that I think works wonderfully is Washington Redtails. It was the nickname for the Tuskegee Airmen. The color scheme wouldn't need to change. Only the logo.

As for the Chicago Blackhawks, Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves and Kansas City Chiefs...
The name Blackhawks is officially after an army division, 86th Inf. Division. Also, there was a Midwest local Native American Chief of the Sauk that it also honors. Chief Blackhawk was a significant Native American hero.

The Indians had changed the logo from Chief Wahoo. That was the most offensive thing that people wanted to change.

The Chiefs and Braves are a general honor term. What I think is offensive is people using the Tomahawk chop. That needs to go.

They're not Indians. They're not from India.

[SP Cook]

They're not Indians. They're not from India.

The word "indian" has multiple meanings.  It could mean a person who is a citizen of India; a person who is genetically descended from either such a person or of the larger pre-partition India, regardless of citizenship; a person who is resident in either the East Indies, which are the islands east of India and is not India or the West Indies, which is the Caribbean. 

Or a person genetically related to those persons present in either of the American continents or the Caribbean prior to 1492.

The term "Indian" in said context is used in the Constitution of the United States (Article I, Section 8) and US statute law; the Constitution of Canada (Section 35) and Canadian statute law; and in Spanish by most Latin American countries.  It is a clear word, having a meaning and a legal status in both the USA and Canada. 

[wanderer2575]

Worth noting is an alternative scenario.

Why Central Michigan University's "Chippewas" nickname is OK with the local tribe and the NCAA

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/2020/07/24/central-michigan-chippewas-nickname-saginaw-chippewa-indian-tribe/5488280002/

The Chippewas' scenario is based on respect for Native Americans and the local Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe.

"The tribe is the one that determines how we use it," CMU President Bob Davies said.  "At any point in time, that can change.  That's the tribe's decision, not necessarily our decision."

...

"We address this every time it becomes an issue or somebody brings it up," Tribe spokesman Erik Rodriguez said.  "We even address this in years where it's not being talked about.  We want to make sure both sides are comfortable with it, that they're seeing the positive that comes along with it.  We don't want it to become an issue that it doesn't have to be."

Maybe if more organizations sincerely took this approach it wouldn't be so much of an issue.

[SEWIGuy]

I believe Florida State as a similar arrangement with the Seminole tribe.

[hobsini2]

I believe Florida State as a similar arrangement with the Seminole tribe.

Correct.

[SSOWorld]

Actually, the team name I have heard that I think works wonderfully is Washington Redtails. It was the nickname for the Tuskegee Airmen. The color scheme wouldn't need to change. Only the logo.

As for the Chicago Blackhawks, Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves and Kansas City Chiefs...
The name Blackhawks is officially after an army division, 86th Inf. Division. Also, there was a Midwest local Native American Chief of the Sauk that it also honors. Chief Blackhawk was a significant Native American hero.

The Indians had changed the logo from Chief Wahoo. That was the most offensive thing that people wanted to change.

The Chiefs and Braves are a general honor term. What I think is offensive is people using the Tomahawk chop. That needs to go.

They're not Indians. They're not from India.

The Bureau of Indian Affairs don't focus on India either.

[Alps]

Actually, the team name I have heard that I think works wonderfully is Washington Redtails. It was the nickname for the Tuskegee Airmen. The color scheme wouldn't need to change. Only the logo.

As for the Chicago Blackhawks, Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves and Kansas City Chiefs...
The name Blackhawks is officially after an army division, 86th Inf. Division. Also, there was a Midwest local Native American Chief of the Sauk that it also honors. Chief Blackhawk was a significant Native American hero.

The Indians had changed the logo from Chief Wahoo. That was the most offensive thing that people wanted to change.

The Chiefs and Braves are a general honor term. What I think is offensive is people using the Tomahawk chop. That needs to go.

They're not Indians. They're not from India.

The Bureau of Indian Affairs don't focus on India either.

Doesn't make it right.

[Scott5114]

Most Native American people in Oklahoma don't have an issue with the term "Indian" by itself, for what it's worth. It's used as a self-identifier a fair amount. You'll even see it abbreviated to "NDN" sometimes. What they take issue with is...well, everything else about the branding of the Cleveland Indians.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

It will be funny to see any game involving "the" Football Team, like if the other 31 NFL teams didn't exist at all. Yes, I consider "Football Team" to be the new monicker of the Washington, ahem, American football team .

[Alps]

It will be funny to see any game involving "the" Football Team, like if the other 31 NFL teams didn't exist at all. Yes, I consider "Football Team" to be the new monicker of the Washington, ahem, American football team .

I imagine announcers will just say "Giants vs. Washington" and, outside of discussion, refer to them as "Washington" throughout.

[thspfc]

It will be funny to see any game involving "the" Football Team, like if the other 31 NFL teams didn't exist at all. Yes, I consider "Football Team" to be the new monicker of the Washington, ahem, American football team .

I imagine announcers will just say "Giants vs. Washington" and, outside of discussion, refer to them as "Washington" throughout.

Why don't they just go with Washington Washingtons temporarily?

[ftballfan]

It will be funny to see any game involving "the" Football Team, like if the other 31 NFL teams didn't exist at all. Yes, I consider "Football Team" to be the new monicker of the Washington, ahem, American football team .

I imagine announcers will just say "Giants vs. Washington" and, outside of discussion, refer to them as "Washington" throughout.

I think a lot of media were referring to them as Washington in the past few years. Side note: when the CFL had a few teams in the States, the team in Baltimore was called the Baltimore Football Club for a while before becoming the Baltimore Stallions.

[SSOWorld]

It will be funny to see any game involving "the" Football Team, like if the other 31 NFL teams didn't exist at all. Yes, I consider "Football Team" to be the new monicker of the Washington, ahem, American football team .

I imagine announcers will just say "Giants vs. Washington" and, outside of discussion, refer to them as "Washington" throughout.

Why don't they just go with Washington Washingtons temporarily?

It might offend all the people with the last name of Washington out there