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Started by Mergingtraffic, October 28, 2009, 08:39:49 PM

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shadyjay

Drove CT 9 up to New Britain yesterday afternoon and the CT 72 expressway to Plainville to check on sign replacement progress.  A couple new supports and a new Exit 20N south sign.  All sign progress on CT 9-72 will be posted on my FLICKR page in a new album: 
CT 9-72 SIGN REPLACEMENT
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/albums/72157719337442409/with/51223215146/

CT9SB-Exit20N by Jay Hogan, on Flickr


connroadgeek

That arrow jammed in there looks funny but I guess that's the new standard based on the recent sign contracts.

RobbieL2415

Quote from: Alps on June 03, 2021, 12:27:56 AM
Quote from: shadyjay on June 02, 2021, 05:15:24 PM
Is it possible that ConnDOT plans a southbound "congestion buster" in the future to alleviate the Exit 87 merge?  Probably not, as traffic doesn't back up on I-91 as much southbound, but my suggestion would be to widen the "secondary ramp" to the south, smooth the curve, add 2 lanes to it, and thus it would enter I-91 South on the right.  I-91 South could be widened from 3 to 4 lanes south from the Rt 15 overpass down to Rt 3/Exit 25.  You wouldn't have the trucks in the far left lane trying to get 2 lanes over, tying up everything, and I-91 South could have a consistant 3 lanes through this area (I'd get rid of the Exit 27 "Exit Only" lane and with the removal of the ramp from 5/15 South, shift I-91 South lanes over to the left).

I should draw up a map.  Another time.  Not now.

I just came home that way on Memorial Day. Exit 87 was backed up like nothing else. No one was following the signs to the next exit and I merged right into 91 with no issue at all. I say leave things as they are.
I've suggested an option lane with a taper merge further down the ramp.
The goal is to prevent traffic from cutting in. That is what is causing the congestion. Or use Exit 86 and not wait at all in that mess.

RobbieL2415


The Ghostbuster

Can you draw a diagram of the exact routing of your bypass?

Alps

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 08, 2021, 11:45:15 AM
Can you draw a diagram of the exact routing of your bypass?
I think he means from exit 3 to Exit 7, around the south side.

connroadgeek

Quote from: Alps on June 09, 2021, 12:01:54 AM
I think he means from exit 3 to Exit 7, around the south side.
Which would be insane because that cuts right through the center of Danbury. It wouldn't be a bypass it would be a new routing for 7 that would eliminate the overlap with 84.

PHLBOS

Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 02, 2021, 07:47:52 AM
Some concepts for I-84 Danbury:

https://www.i84danbury.com/concepts/?fbclid=IwAR0FECSOQHcEzHgN67FrA_kKd0eY4EKEDg8g0LHqrG3FWFVx2P9zH8hkmZs
I can see both Concepts 1 & 6 becoming reality.  Concept 7, as others have stated, is a non-starter IMHO; such appears to be a thinking outside the box exercise.
GPS does NOT equal GOD

Alps

Quote from: connroadgeek on June 09, 2021, 08:19:15 AM
Quote from: Alps on June 09, 2021, 12:01:54 AM
I think he means from exit 3 to Exit 7, around the south side.
Which would be insane because that cuts right through the center of Danbury. It wouldn't be a bypass it would be a new routing for 7 that would eliminate the overlap with 84.
"south side" != "center"

connroadgeek

Quote from: Alps on June 09, 2021, 06:02:45 PM
"south side" != "center"
84-7 tracks along the northwestern side of the city. By definition anything that goes around the south side of the current alignment would cut through the heart of the city. Unless you mean going around the south side of Danbury which would result in ramming the bypass through Bethel which is very densely populated and would require demolishing hundreds of homes and businesses.

Alps

Quote from: connroadgeek on June 09, 2021, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: Alps on June 09, 2021, 06:02:45 PM
"south side" != "center"
84-7 tracks along the northwestern side of the city. By definition anything that goes around the south side of the current alignment would cut through the heart of the city. Unless you mean going around the south side of Danbury which would result in ramming the bypass through Bethel which is very densely populated and would require demolishing hundreds of homes and businesses.
let's ask the OP

abqtraveler

Quote from: connroadgeek on June 09, 2021, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: Alps on June 09, 2021, 06:02:45 PM
"south side" != "center"
84-7 tracks along the northwestern side of the city. By definition anything that goes around the south side of the current alignment would cut through the heart of the city. Unless you mean going around the south side of Danbury which would result in ramming the bypass through Bethel which is very densely populated and would require demolishing hundreds of homes and businesses.
Which is why that will never happen in a million years. Look at how long they've been fighting over finishing Super 7 between Norwalk and Danbury. The state already owns the strip of land needed to build it, but it'll never get built because there will always be someone with very deep pockets hiring the best lawyers money can buy to fight it.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

Avalanchez71

Quote from: abqtraveler on June 10, 2021, 08:43:58 AM
Quote from: connroadgeek on June 09, 2021, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: Alps on June 09, 2021, 06:02:45 PM
"south side" != "center"
84-7 tracks along the northwestern side of the city. By definition anything that goes around the south side of the current alignment would cut through the heart of the city. Unless you mean going around the south side of Danbury which would result in ramming the bypass through Bethel which is very densely populated and would require demolishing hundreds of homes and businesses.
Which is why that will never happen in a million years. Look at how long they've been fighting over finishing Super 7 between Norwalk and Danbury. The state already owns the strip of land needed to build it, but it'll never get built because there will always be someone with very deep pockets hiring the best lawyers money can buy to fight it.

It is a good thing that they have an avenue to fight.

jp the roadgeek

#4513
Didn't get a pic, but while driving eastbound on the Willow Brook Connector (SR 571) today, I noticed a new Exit Now sign for CT 71 on the westbound side that is now numbered as Exit 1 (the old gore sign remains).  There's also a new BGS for the entrance from CT 71 much in the squished together font that CTDOT is using on new signage in the Hartford area for I-84.

UPDATE: The eastbound 1/2 mile, Exit Now, and gore sign have all be updated.  Drove it westbound, but sun glare prevented me from getting a decent pic.
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

zzyzx


RobbieL2415

Quote from: zzyzx on June 17, 2021, 01:46:56 AM
We all knew this was going to happen...

https://www.wfsb.com/news/new-i-91-exit-meant-to-ease-traffic-congestion-is-still-causing-back-ups/article_bbf82b14-ced7-11eb-ac0a-b784a2348b4a.html?block_id=994127
For the billionth time:

1. It's still only one lane, and quite frankly, it moves at a steady pace once past the gore.
2. The widening before the gore hasn't been completed yet (will be a 3-2 split with a least a mile of approach lane(s))
3. People need to stop cutting in at the last minute
4. Through traffic flow is already better.

Stop condemning the project before it's completed.

Old Dominionite

Quote from: shadyjay on June 03, 2021, 06:17:20 PM
Drove CT 9 up to New Britain yesterday afternoon and the CT 72 expressway to Plainville to check on sign replacement progress.  A couple new supports and a new Exit 20N south sign.  All sign progress on CT 9-72 will be posted on my FLICKR page in a new album: 
CT 9-72 SIGN REPLACEMENT
https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/albums/72157719337442409/with/51223215146/

CT9SB-Exit20N by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

Took this route hundreds of times during my high school years. If nothing else, I'm glad the new sign omits "Springfield" as a control city.

shadyjay

I don't know how I feel of going to single control cities.  Springfield wasn't needed southbound, but northbound it seems more necessary.  Maybe personal preference, since Rt 9 is my "home road" and taking that exit northbound, many times I was heading to Vermont. 

Tonight's update:
New signs are going up on the on/off ramps in Essex/Deep River/Chester/Haddam.  Observed some new signs on the NB ramps for [old/existing] Exits 4,6,9.  These are all sheet aluminum signs.

abqtraveler

Quote from: shadyjay on June 17, 2021, 10:47:55 PM
I don't know how I feel of going to single control cities.  Springfield wasn't needed southbound, but northbound it seems more necessary.  Maybe personal preference, since Rt 9 is my "home road" and taking that exit northbound, many times I was heading to Vermont. 

Tonight's update:
New signs are going up on the on/off ramps in Essex/Deep River/Chester/Haddam.  Observed some new signs on the NB ramps for [old/existing] Exits 4,6,9.  These are all sheet aluminum signs.

Any sings of new exit numbers yet?
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: shadyjay on June 17, 2021, 10:47:55 PM
I don't know how I feel of going to single control cities.  Springfield wasn't needed southbound, but northbound it seems more necessary.  Maybe personal preference, since Rt 9 is my "home road" and taking that exit northbound, many times I was heading to Vermont. 

Tonight's update:
New signs are going up on the on/off ramps in Essex/Deep River/Chester/Haddam.  Observed some new signs on the NB ramps for [old/existing] Exits 4,6,9.  These are all sheet aluminum signs.

I'm sure they'll also get rid of N.Y. City on southbound signage to I-91 South.
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

shadyjay

Quote from: abqtraveler on June 18, 2021, 12:13:54 PM
Any sings of new exit numbers yet?

Negative, at least between I-95 and Exit 15.  Everything new to the north is getting existing numbers put on for now. 

connroadgeek

I think the single control cities simplifies things. Not saying it's good or bad, but on the approach to the junction you might have an EXIT 20 // I-91 // Hartford // New Haven // 1 MILE sign, so not introducing new control cities at the actual junction keeps it consistent with the approach signage.

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: shadyjay on June 18, 2021, 06:44:24 PM
Quote from: abqtraveler on June 18, 2021, 12:13:54 PM
Any sings of new exit numbers yet?

Negative, at least between I-95 and Exit 15.  Everything new to the north is getting existing numbers put on for now.

I've driven Route 9 north of I-91 this week and other than the number on the Willow Brook, no new signage has been posted in the last couple weeks.  Same with Route 72 (the preview of coming attractions at Corbin Ave is over for now).
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

shadyjay

Nothing new on CT 72 to report in either direction.   

However.... the big news is in Berlin, with Exits 21, 22, and 24 having quite a bit of signage replaced.  No new overheads, so all new signage in this area is ground-based.  The Exit 22 "exit now" sign is now ground-mounted, with the old cruciform cantilever still up.  And new ground signage for Exit 24 (example below).  No new signs observed in the southbound direction, however posts are up for a 1 mile Exit 20/I-91 Jct advance.  South of Middletown to Old Saybrook, foundation installation continues NB and crews have been installing some new signs on on/off ramps.  On highway, no new sheet aluminum signs up yet. 

DSC03072 by Jay Hogan, on Flickr

More signs at:  https://www.flickr.com/photos/shadyjay/albums/72157719337442409

Mergingtraffic

New signs on US-7 in Norwalk.  Added was an extra I-95 EXIT ONLY sign and ATTRACTIONS sign as the Maritime Aquarium will be removed from the older overheads and it'll now be on the new LOGO sign.

I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
MergingTraffic https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/



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