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Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« on: March 02, 2021, 09:10:59 PM »

Since Oregon is so good at signing state highways  :rolleyes: I'm sure we can expect signage on the route itself and BGS displays soon..... :-D


PORTLAND, Ore. ó It's a steep, curvy, crash-prone road through the West Hills, and now it's the Oregon Department of Transportation's problem.

Control of the eight-mile section of Northwest Cornelius Pass Road between Highway 26 and Highway 30 was transferred to the Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT) on March 1. While it gets new state road designation as Highway 127, it will still be know as Cornelius Pass Rd. No street addresses are changing.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/steep-curvy-road-prone-to-crashes-is-now-odots-problem/283-697a1b66-31b4-4d7e-bd66-c43be569ac99 
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2021, 09:20:42 PM »

Neat, Iím glad I referenced Cornelius Pass when I did a blog on the Sunset Highway.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2021, 11:38:45 PM »

Washington County still has jurisdiction over the Rock Creek Bridge. It was built in 1946 when the new alignment of Cornelius Pass Road was being constructed, and needs replacing before it can be turned over to ODOT.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2021, 05:56:30 AM »

Since Oregon is so good at signing state highways  :rolleyes: I'm sure we can expect signage on the route itself and BGS displays soon..... :-D

The article you linked said they were going to sign it.  I'm only expecting a few shields on the route itself, though--it'd be typical of ODOT to just to install two, one at the north end, one at the south.  I'd be absolutely shocked if they had OR-127 on any BGSes, and the most I'd anticipate them doing for that is some standalone "To OR-127" shields or the like.

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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2021, 10:55:49 AM »

Youíre probably right. ODOT wonít replace any BGS and itíll probably be a sad standalone shield with a TO like they used to have for 551 near Canby
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2021, 02:27:37 AM »

Since Oregon is so good at signing state highways  :rolleyes: I'm sure we can expect signage on the route itself and BGS displays soon..... :-D

The article you linked said they were going to sign it.  I'm only expecting a few shields on the route itself, though--it'd be typical of ODOT to just to install two, one at the north end, one at the south.  I'd be absolutely shocked if they had OR-127 on any BGSes, and the most I'd anticipate them doing for that is some standalone "To OR-127" shields or the like.

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I was in the area tonight and drove north and south on OR-127 between 26 and Old Cornelius Pass Rd. The southern terminus now has an "END OR-127 SOUTH" shield assembly, which might be the most complete shield assembly I've seen in Oregon at a highway terminus:



There were also a pair at the intersection of OR-127 and NE Wagon Dr., just north of the southern terminus; these were mounted facing cross-traffic, not on the highway itself:



It wasn't signed in any other capacity in either direction or at other cross streets between there and Old Cornelius Pass Rd.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2021, 07:20:08 PM »

Since Oregon is so good at signing state highways  :rolleyes: I'm sure we can expect signage on the route itself and BGS displays soon..... :-D

The article you linked said they were going to sign it.  I'm only expecting a few shields on the route itself, though--it'd be typical of ODOT to just to install two, one at the north end, one at the south.  I'd be absolutely shocked if they had OR-127 on any BGSes, and the most I'd anticipate them doing for that is some standalone "To OR-127" shields or the like.

-Tarkus

I was in the area tonight and drove north and south on OR-127 between 26 and Old Cornelius Pass Rd. The southern terminus now has an "END OR-127 SOUTH" shield assembly, which might be the most complete shield assembly I've seen in Oregon at a highway terminus:



There were also a pair at the intersection of OR-127 and NE Wagon Dr., just north of the southern terminus; these were mounted facing cross-traffic, not on the highway itself:



It wasn't signed in any other capacity in either direction or at other cross streets between there and Old Cornelius Pass Rd.

Oh wow! Great picture, thanks for sharing that.

I don't think I've seen Oregon use "END" sign assemblies.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2021, 12:28:09 AM »

I was up there 3 weekends ago and drove the entire length.  The two shields you pictured were the only ones I saw at the southern end.

The northern junction with US 30 was extensively signed.  Here's advance signage along EB US 30:


You can see a BGS in the distance of that first shot.  Here's a close-up of that (still on EB 30):


From the other direction (WB 30):


If you make that left turn, you immediately see this reassurance marker:


Turning around, this END shield is posted at the junction:


You can also see 127 and 30 shields on the blades attached to the mast-arms. Here's another view of that END sign which shows the mast-arm signage a little more clearly:


At that time, there was no other route signage in between the endpoints. 

Always cool to see a new route signed.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2021, 10:37:58 AM »

I was up there 3 weekends ago and drove the entire length.  The two shields you pictured were the only ones I saw at the southern end.

The northern junction with US 30 was extensively signed.  Here's advance signage along EB US 30:


You can see a BGS in the distance of that first shot.  Here's a close-up of that (still on EB 30):


From the other direction (WB 30):


If you make that left turn, you immediately see this reassurance marker:


Turning around, this END shield is posted at the junction:


You can also see 127 and 30 shields on the blades attached to the mast-arms,  Here's another view of that END sign which shows the mast-arm signage a little more clearly:


At that time, there was no other route signage in between the endpoints. 

Always cool to see a new route signed.

I'll have to drive it next time I'm in the Portland area! Great pictures.

Kudos ODOT, you finally did a great job at signing a route!

JCT signs?? END signs? That's not the ODOT I know. LOL.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2021, 06:39:44 PM »

OR 131 has had an END sign in Oceanside back in the mid 'oughts, one of the first Hwys to be signed as a Route when ODOT decided to publically unveil them in '02.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2021, 12:56:21 AM »

This is what that looks like in Oceanside:


And while I'm at it, its counterpart in Tillamook:


OCGuy81, you're right that END signs were once basically non-existent in Oregon.  But in recent years a few have been going up around the state. Besides OR 131, few others I can think of are:

US 30's and US 26's west ends
OR 104 by Fort Stevens
both ends of OR 569
OR 219 in Hillsboro

But I know there are some more in other parts of the state.  They're still uncommon, though.



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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2021, 02:31:21 AM »

I've been taking frequent drives over Cornelius Pass for about the past 6 months or so. I took another one after work today and had these observations, in addition to the ones from xonhulu:



See that bare wooden post just to the right of the school crossing ahead sign? It's positioned more or less directly across the road from the END OR-127 SOUTH shield. I don't know for sure, but it seems that this would be an appropriate place for a BEGIN OR-127 NORTH shield that has yet to be mounted. This isn't too far from the offramp from US-26, so this seems an appropriate place to stick one.



Here's a close-up the sticker on the back of the BEGIN OR-127 SOUTH assembly. Seems these signs were manufactured in July 2019 and have been sitting in storage for almost 2 years.



Keep an eye on this bridge. It was built in 1946 when Cornelius Pass Road was realigned onto its current route. It's slated to be replaced by one that can support freight traffic, with wider shoulders. However, the estimated completion date is December 31, 2023, so it won't be ready for prime time just yet. Until then, the bridge is still being maintained by Washington County.



Interesting story about this photo -- a few seconds after I stopped taking these photos, I saw a car pass both the car on the right and the car behind it across the double yellow lines. If I'd been traveling down this road just 30-45 seconds later, my car might've been totalled and I might've been seriously injured or worse. Too bad I wasn't quick enough to snap a photo of the guy's license plate.

You can see a BGS in the distance of that first shot.  Here's a close-up of that (still on EB 30):


From the other direction (WB 30):


Since you took a trip down there, ODOT has installed signs pointing to Hillsboro beyond these BGSes. Here's the one on US-30 eastbound:



I didn't get any standalone shots westbound, but you can see it peeking through in this photo:





This is what that looks like in Oceanside:


And while I'm at it, its counterpart in Tillamook:



Huh, I've never seen Series E on an END banner before. Oregon mostly uses Series C.

OCGuy81, you're right that END signs were once basically non-existent in Oregon.  But in recent years a few have been going up around the state. Besides OR 131, few others I can think of are:

US 30's and US 26's west ends
OR 104 by Fort Stevens
both ends of OR 469
OR 219 in Hillsboro

But I know there are some more in other parts of the state.  They're still uncommon, though.

BEGIN signs are even rarer. Before these, the only ones I was aware of were the pair of BEGIN EAST US-20 signs in Newport. From GSV:



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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2021, 09:33:23 PM »

Great photos, Jonathan.  I expect we'll see even more OR 127 signs going up later this year when ODOT repaves the highway.

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BEGIN signs are even rarer. Before these, the only ones I was aware of were the pair of BEGIN EAST US-20 signs in Newport. From GSV:

I'm pretty sure those were the first in Oregon.  Oddly, there is no END 20 assembly in Newport.

There are at least 3 other examples.  Here's one on Freewater Hwy OR 339 that I recently posted in the general Oregon thread:


And two more on both ends of Alsea-Deadwood Hwy OR 501:




Those are the only two others that I have photos of and can remember right now.  So you're right, they're still extremely rare in Oregon.

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Interesting story about this photo -- a few seconds after I stopped taking these photos, I saw a car pass both the car on the right and the car behind it across the double yellow lines. If I'd been traveling down this road just 30-45 seconds later, my car might've been totalled and I might've been seriously injured or worse. Too bad I wasn't quick enough to snap a photo of the guy's license plate.

I'm glad you & the car got through unscathed.  Cornelius Pass Rd. sees a lot of speeding & more than its share of impatient drivers. Likely because there are almost no legal or safe passing opportunities, and the 45 mph speed limit probably drives some to the verge of insanity.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2021, 02:28:47 AM »

BEGIN signs are even rarer. Before these, the only ones I was aware of were the pair of BEGIN EAST US-20 signs in Newport. From GSV:





Too bad they didn't post the mileage to Boston, given that US-20 is the longest numbered route in the country.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2021, 05:45:02 AM »

BEGIN signs are even rarer. Before these, the only ones I was aware of were the pair of BEGIN EAST US-20 signs in Newport. From GSV:





Too bad they didn't post the mileage to Boston, given that US-20 is the longest numbered route in the country.

That's on a distance sign right around the corner.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2021, 09:27:57 PM »

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That's on a distance sign right around the corner.

Here's a photo of it:
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2021, 07:16:15 PM »

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Was wondering why the 1 mile guide lacking a route shield.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2021, 08:10:11 PM »

I didn't photograph it, but I think there was a standalone JCT 127 posted right before the intersection and the signage in your first photo.
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Re: Cornelius Pass Road will now be Oregon 127
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2021, 10:47:01 PM »

I also see that in Oregon everything is a junction including Warrenton on US 101 on the Kings Bay causeway.
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