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Interstate control cities that can't be reached via *ANY* interstate

Started by NWI_Irish96, September 17, 2021, 06:12:43 PM

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JayhawkCO

There are signs for Boulder on I-270 West, but you can't get there via interstate, only US36.

Chris


oscar

In Hawaii, Interstate H-1 has Waianae as a control city. Waianae is well beyond H-1's west end, on non-freeway Hawaii route 93.
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GaryV

Does an unsigned interstate count?

In Grand Rapids the exits from I-196 to unsigned I-296 nb have Cadillac as the control city.

Similarly, I-96 exits to I-296 sb have Kalamazoo.

Of course, it's really just US-131.


Flint1979

Control cities actually don't have to be reached before they change. For Michigan though all control cities are reached via interstate.

Flint1979


SkyPesos

Quote from: Flint1979 on September 18, 2021, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 17, 2021, 07:45:40 PM
I-70 eastbound's control city is Baltimore, but–

Baltimore is reached via interstate though.
Nah, I-695 and I-95 simply doesn't exist and the only way to get to Baltimore is with the cancelled part of I-70 past the park and ride  :spin:

Flint1979

Quote from: SkyPesos on September 18, 2021, 09:01:31 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 18, 2021, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 17, 2021, 07:45:40 PM
I-70 eastbound's control city is Baltimore, but–

Baltimore is reached via interstate though.
Nah, I-695 and I-95 simply doesn't exist and the only way to get to Baltimore is with the cancelled part of I-70 past the park and ride  :spin:
Lol

Mapmikey

I-140 in Wilmington has both Shalotte and Myrtle Beach as control cities, only reachable by US 17.


SkyPesos

Quote from: Mapmikey on September 18, 2021, 09:18:33 AM
I-140 in Wilmington has both Shalotte and Myrtle Beach as control cities, only reachable by US 17.
Similar to I-140, would I-526 and the control city of Savannah also count, as you have to use US 17 before I-95 to get there, or not because an interstate is involved between Charleston and Savannah?

Flint1979

Quote from: catch22 on September 17, 2021, 07:45:59 PM
At the I-75/I-275 split north of Monroe, Michigan, the control city for I-275 is Flint.

To get to Flint via I-275 from here requires taking I-275 to its end, then I-96 to Brighton then US-23 to Flint.

https://goo.gl/maps/EiZcugPRCHSFeonF6
You can get to Flint taking Interstate's though even if it is a much longer route.

jp the roadgeek

Cape Cod for I-195 and I-495.  Need to use MA 25 to either US 6 or MA 28 to get there.
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GaryV

Quote from: Flint1979 on September 18, 2021, 11:54:11 AM
Quote from: catch22 on September 17, 2021, 07:45:59 PM
At the I-75/I-275 split north of Monroe, Michigan, the control city for I-275 is Flint.

To get to Flint via I-275 from here requires taking I-275 to its end, then I-96 to Brighton then US-23 to Flint.

https://goo.gl/maps/EiZcugPRCHSFeonF6
You can get to Flint taking Interstate's though even if it is a much longer route.

If you were going to stay on Interstates to get from Monroe County to Flint, you wouldn't take that I-275 exit.  I mean you could, but from there to Flint it's much shorter staying on I-75 through Detroit than it would be to use I-275 to I-96 through Lansing to I-69 back to Flint.

jaehak

I 25 never quite makes it into Santa Fe, but it definitely serves it.

Flint1979

Quote from: GaryV on September 18, 2021, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 18, 2021, 11:54:11 AM
Quote from: catch22 on September 17, 2021, 07:45:59 PM
At the I-75/I-275 split north of Monroe, Michigan, the control city for I-275 is Flint.

To get to Flint via I-275 from here requires taking I-275 to its end, then I-96 to Brighton then US-23 to Flint.

https://goo.gl/maps/EiZcugPRCHSFeonF6
You can get to Flint taking Interstate's though even if it is a much longer route.

If you were going to stay on Interstates to get from Monroe County to Flint, you wouldn't take that I-275 exit.  I mean you could, but from there to Flint it's much shorter staying on I-75 through Detroit than it would be to use I-275 to I-96 through Lansing to I-69 back to Flint.
The whole point is if you take I-275 could you get to Flint using all Interstates? I'd say the answer to that is yes. However Flint is an old control city on the list which probably should be updated. I'd say use Livonia

Roadsguy

Lancaster is a control city on I-283 southbound from I-83. Not only does I-283 not go anywhere near Lancaster (instead requiring PA 283 to reach it), but Lancaster is the largest city in Pennsylvania not served by any interstate.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

bing101

I-305 Sacramento Eastbound has a control city of South Lake Tahoe but it is more known as US-50 east to South Lake Tahoe.


South Lake Tahoe has no Interstates.

roadman65

Montreal on I-87 North.  You have to use A-15 from the Canadian Border.
Ashland, KY is used on I-64 from Lexington, yet its miles off the freeway.
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bing101

I-210 west for San Fernando in Pasadena.

Note this was  before Caltrans changed the control city for I-210 west for Sacramento.
Technically San Fernando city limits does not touch the CA-118 a I-210 interchange.
I-580 east has a control city for Fresno but technically Fresno has no interstates for now. One has to drive from I-580 east to I-205 east and CA-120 east and CA-99 south to reach Fresno.

US 89

Park City, UT is a control city on a handful of signs for I-80 and US 40. Neither highway reaches the city itself... though 40 comes very close to the eastern limits and historically did go right through town.

ran4sh

Quote from: Flint1979 on September 18, 2021, 08:54:06 AM
Control cities actually don't have to be reached before they change. For Michigan though all control cities are reached via interstate.

But they at least have to be reached before they are absent from signage.
Control cities CAN be off the route! Control cities make NO sense if signs end before the city is reached!

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I-55

Lockport is used on I-990 yet I-990 ends 8 miles from the city.
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AcE_Wolf_287

All Around Columbia, Due to I-77 ending here, SB I-77 from around Exit 22 (Killian Road) to the last exit before ending marks as Southbound going to Charleston

SkyPesos

Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on September 20, 2021, 11:55:52 AM
All Around Columbia, Due to I-77 ending here, SB I-77 from around Exit 22 (Killian Road) to the last exit before ending marks as Southbound going to Charleston
I-26 is an interstate.

roadfro



Quote from: cabiness42 on September 17, 2021, 08:08:59 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on September 17, 2021, 06:37:31 PM
Phoenix on I-515 SB leaving Downtown Las Vegas...at least until US 93 is much further along being upgraded to I-11

(second example clipped)

These examples qualify, yet at the same time they are near where the interstate ends so just about any city you would use as a control city is going to qualify.

This example has all the Phoenix signage near the beginning of the route southbound, not the end. Granted I-515 is less than 15 miles long now (and was only about 20-ish miles in length before the south end was rechristened as I-11), so your point is still valid.
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WillWeaverRVA

I-66 is signed for Front Royal, but does not enter the Front Royal corporate limits. Access is by way of non-freeway US 340/US 522 and VA 55.

Also, this is technically cheating, but I-64 uses Colonial Williamsburg as a control city but obviously it does not enter Colonial Williamsburg (or even the City of Williamsburg), and one has to use surface streets to make the connection.
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