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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #500 on: December 14, 2023, 10:21:38 PM »

Item 164 reconstructs the I-39 interchange with US 20/Harrison Avenue

I don't see any plans for this yet--does anyone know if the interchange is going to be reconfigured from a cloverleaf?

IIRC it was supposed to become a DDI.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #501 on: December 15, 2023, 10:20:16 AM »

Item 156 reconstructs West College Avenue in Normal from "US 150/Rivian Motorway to west of the Norfolk Southern Railroad"

There will be a rubblized section on much of this one, with an asphalt overlay. New sidewalk on south side and multi-use trail on the north side. There are also a few intersection improvements at the Rivian (former Diamond Star/Mitsubishi) auto plant.

As a side note, Rivian got a large order from AT&T for electric service vans yesterday. Expect more trucks coming through here.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #502 on: December 16, 2023, 08:47:20 AM »

Item 164 reconstructs the I-39 interchange with US 20/Harrison Avenue

I don't see any plans for this yet--does anyone know if the interchange is going to be reconfigured from a cloverleaf?

Plans are still not up but I certainly hope so. A DDI might be appropriate there.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #503 on: December 17, 2023, 11:46:56 AM »

DDI Is listed on the project page.
https://idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/transportation-management/featured-projects/winnebago-county--i-39-u-s--20-reconstruction-in-cherry-valley/overview.html

I will miss the free flow off of 20/39 but appreciate the auxiliary lanes on 20/39.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #504 on: December 21, 2023, 01:09:50 PM »

I noticed that at the western I-39/US-20 interchange that there are signs of former loop ramps, but looking at Historical Aerials and Google Earth, I can't see what they might have been for. It looks like there was a cloverleaf there that was removed, but the road main north-south road that it would have been a cloverleaf for never seems to have been built. Does anyone know?

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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #505 on: December 21, 2023, 03:56:31 PM »

This website gives some information about the canceled Raoul Wallenberg Expressway (formerly called the Woodruff Expressway): https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/2907254. There is also a AAROADS Forum thread with posts from 2015-2017 that gives more information about the canceled expressway: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14485.0.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #506 on: December 21, 2023, 04:40:23 PM »

I noticed that at the western I-39/US-20 interchange that there are signs of former loop ramps, but looking at Historical Aerials and Google Earth, I can't see what they might have been for. It looks like there was a cloverleaf there that was removed, but the road main north-south road that it would have been a cloverleaf for never seems to have been built. Does anyone know?


The freeway was planned to go north of US 20, but was never built.  It was graded though to put in the ramps at a future date.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #507 on: December 21, 2023, 08:42:58 PM »

Too funny. The referenced article on the Woodruff Expressway calls the rail line the "Galena & Chicago Union RR".

While that was it original name when it was built from Chicago to Freeport, Illinois in 1850, by 1864 it was called the Chicago & Northwestern.  In 1996 it became the Union Pacific.

Good thing the expressway didnt take out the railroad, because Illinois just announced new Metra commuter service from Chicago to downtown Rockford earlier this year using the same line.

But it will take millions and a few years to fix it past the Stellantis Belvidere Assembly Plant. That was just closed by Stellantis this year and they are wrangling with Illinois to get a handout to turn it into an EV factory.

Doesn't include all the new stations that will be built. Illinois would like to use it to extend Amtrak to Dubuque, Iowa, but it seems CN isn't interested.

If you go look up the comments on US-20 in Illinois here on AARoads you will see why people in Iowa prefer Amtrak.  But I digress. Back to bidding.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #508 on: December 22, 2023, 11:50:52 AM »

This website gives some information about the canceled Raoul Wallenberg Expressway (formerly called the Woodruff Expressway): https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/2907254. There is also a AAROADS Forum thread with posts from 2015-2017 that gives more information about the canceled expressway: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14485.0.

Thanks to you, BigJohn, and edwaleni for the details.

I was thinking that the interchange was a trumpet that got revamped, but the layout of the loops made no sense.


In any case, I believe the following are the germane posts from the earlier thread.

In your research, did you find out about the ghost ramp elevations at the I-39/US-51/US-20 interchange in Rockford? I always see what looks like a cloverleaf ramp elevation from east US-20 to the west US-20 ramp from northbound I-39/US-51  :hmmm:


If I recall, the freeway was to extend north from US-20 into the city of Rockford. That section was canceled, but not before the ramps were graded.


The ghost ramps at the I-39/U.S 20 interchange in Rockford was preparation for the never built Woodruff Expressway, which was a crosstown highway proposed to lead commercial traffic back into downtown Rockford, since all of the traffic was heading east along the I-90/Northwest (Jane Addams) Tollway. It was to be built on the old RR ROW from the Galena and Chicago Union Railroad. It was ultimately cancelled due to high opposition (not really needed if you ask me).

There was a proposal to reconstruct the I-39/U.S 20 interchange as well as the U.S 20 Harrison Avenue interchange, but that has mysteriously been taken off the IDOT website within the last year. Does anyone know what happened there?

I am primarily interested as to why the U.S 51 corridor was not built as a Interstate-grade highway south of Bloomington-Normal. I'd argue that this was probably one of the biggest mistakes IDOT made in the last half-century (right up there with not building the full Route 53 extension)
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #509 on: December 22, 2023, 12:58:42 PM »

I always thought that the western Interstate 39/US 20/US 51 interchange took up more land than it should have, given the unconstructed nature of the RWE. Hopefully, when the interchange is reconstructed, it becomes a more compact system interchange.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #510 on: December 22, 2023, 05:03:21 PM »

That interchange is not getting much smaller. 

NB 39 will move west closer the left side ramp to WB 20, but it is being widened to 2 lanes. 

SB 39 actually needed a little additional space as it moves slightly west to have 2 high speed lanes south from 20 WB.

Linden Road just south of 20 makes the ramps a bit more complicated as well.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #511 on: February 02, 2024, 10:01:56 PM »

List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up.
  • The I-64 Wabash River Bridge replacement is finally taking bids but is still Item 1X
  • Item 24 is intersection improvements for US 41 at Stearns School Road in Lake County
  • Item 25 is some sort of safety/reconstruction project on US 20 around Barge Terminal Road and Fentress Road near East Dubuque
  • Item 73 is a traffic signal modernization project for a few locations on IL 3 and IL 203 in St. Clair and Madison Counties
  • Item 104 is reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43.  The pay item listings suggest it's getting signals
  • Item 105 is an intersection improvement for IL 43 at 22nd Street/Cermak Road
  • Item 118 is a re-posting of the joint repairs and deck overlay for I-55 over the Des Plaines River near Joliet
  • Item 132 is a widening a reconstruction of McLean Boulevard in South Elgin from Spring Street to Stearns Road
  • Item 154 is a repost of the West College Avenue reconstruction in Normal
  • Item 164 is reconstruction of the two IL 47/IL 176 intersections and widening of the IL 47/IL 176 overlap
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #512 on: February 02, 2024, 11:21:50 PM »

List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up.
  • The I-64 Wabash River Bridge replacement is finally taking bids but is still Item 1X


That was fast. It was just assessed last year. It is functionally obsolete, but I don't think it is at any immediate risk at the moment.

Look for a traditional concrete pylon structure with pre-stressed concrete beams. Since the river has been struck from the federal record for navigation since 1963 no need for a high and wide center span.
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #513 on: February 03, 2024, 11:37:14 PM »

List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up.
  • The I-64 Wabash River Bridge replacement is finally taking bids but is still Item 1X


That was fast. It was just assessed last year. It is functionally obsolete, but I don't think it is at any immediate risk at the moment.

Look for a traditional concrete pylon structure with pre-stressed concrete beams. Since the river has been struck from the federal record for navigation since 1963 no need for a high and wide center span.

An article from 2013!!

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POSEYVILLE, Ind. — Erosion along the Wabash River has led to plans for replacing the Interstate 64 bridges linking southern Indiana and Illinois within the next few years.

Officials say the two bridges are less than 50 years old but that erosion around the bridge piers has accelerated with changes in the river's flow since 1985.

The Evansville Courier & Press reports that the Illinois Department of Transportation this year completed $2.5 million in emergency repairs on the I-64 bridge piers.

The estimated $71 million bridges replacement is included in the Illinois highway department's 2015-2019 projects plan. Illinois and Indiana will share the project cost, with Illinois overseeing the work.

Indiana highway agency spokeswoman Cher Elliott says money is budgeted for Indiana's share.

Interesting because it is same phenomena that caused the nearby Illinois Central railroad span to collapse.



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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #514 on: February 08, 2024, 11:55:35 AM »

List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up.
  • Item 104 is reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43.  The pay item listings suggest it's getting signals

Craters have begun to form on 95th Street  :ded:[/list]
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Re: Illinois interesting bid annoucements
« Reply #515 on: February 17, 2024, 12:53:20 AM »

List of projects for the March 8, 2024 Letting is up.
  • Item 104 is reconstruction of the US 12-US 20 interchange with IL 43.  The pay item listings suggest it's getting signals

Craters have begun to form on 95th Street  :ded:

The interchange will be what I call a "direction-favoring parclo"...it's a west-oriented parclo where ramps to/from the west are directional, but one ramp is provided to/from the east that will meet Harlem at grade.  The two cloverleaves on the west side are being eliminated. The alignment/tie/benchmark sheet helps elucidate this.

It will be a similar configuration to what they did at I-88 and Farnsworth, but a mirror image of it.
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