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Title: How to dead end a freeway...LOL!
Post by: nexus73 on April 20, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fl.yimg.com%2Fa%2Fi%2Fus%2Fre%2Fgr%2Fnashvillekip_v2.jpg&hash=544e259659462499f623d95be0853a2e93c974b2)

Saw this pix today.  It's from an article about Nashville and the location is the Nissan plant in that city.  The first thought was how it looked like a good way to end a freeway in which there is nothing to connect to and that struck me as funny! 

Rick
Title: Re: How to dead end a freeway...LOL!
Post by: Mr_Northside on April 20, 2011, 01:20:40 PM
Sort of a freeway cul-de-sac?
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Post by: NE2 on April 20, 2011, 02:25:47 PM
Not a full freeway, but close: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.587119,-73.561535&spn=0.013541,0.041199&t=k&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.587623,-73.56203&panoid=j6gWQ0OwUrZgzhrqFMoXjA&cbp=12,245.98,,0,4.17
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Post by: froggie on April 20, 2011, 03:19:40 PM
The short freeway spur under the Empire State Plaza in downtown Albany, NY terminates/U-turns in much the same fashion.
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Post by: english si on April 20, 2011, 03:31:11 PM
why would you need both sides to turn around?
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Post by: codyg1985 on April 20, 2011, 03:52:42 PM
That looks like a test track on Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=nissan+plant+nashville,+tn&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=nissan+plant&hnear=Nashville,+Davidson,+Tennessee&ll=35.970296,-86.490898&spn=0.006729,0.009645&t=h&z=17).
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Post by: NE2 on April 20, 2011, 05:58:46 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on April 20, 2011, 03:52:42 PM
That looks like a test track on Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=nissan+plant+nashville,+tn&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=nissan+plant&hnear=Nashville,+Davidson,+Tennessee&ll=35.970296,-86.490898&spn=0.006729,0.009645&t=h&z=17).
Yes, I think we all realize that.
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Post by: Scott5114 on April 20, 2011, 11:43:58 PM
I-70's eastern terminus in Baltimore does something somewhat similar, except that there's only one carriageway that makes the loop, and there's parking alongside (it is a Park & Ride, of course).
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Post by: Alps on April 21, 2011, 02:04:04 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 20, 2011, 11:43:58 PM
I-70's eastern terminus in Baltimore does something somewhat similar, except that there's only one carriageway that makes the loop, and there's parking alongside (it is a Park & Ride, of course).
So did I-370 before the ICC, via a square loop. Probably the only freeway to end in a square instead of a circle.
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Post by: Bickendan on April 21, 2011, 05:09:35 AM
Seems to me that back in the day, I-710's mainline u-turned at the top of the berm above Valley Blvd if you didn't exit. The satellite image shows a forced exit to Valley, but I remember that u-turn... I was 5 years old, I think, so 1988?

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=34.073952,-118.160822&spn=0.002639,0.005273&t=k&z=18
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Post by: froggie on April 21, 2011, 07:15:19 AM
QuoteSo did I-370 before the ICC, via a square loop. Probably the only freeway to end in a square instead of a circle.

Not quite.  If you know your way through the Shady Grove metro station, you can get out to Redland Rd without having to take the "square loop" back onto I-370.  I've even used what is effectively a direct ramp from Redland Rd along the edge of the station to the beginning of I-370.
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Post by: agentsteel53 on April 21, 2011, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: Bickendan on April 21, 2011, 05:09:35 AM
Seems to me that back in the day, I-710's mainline u-turned at the top of the berm above Valley Blvd if you didn't exit. The satellite image shows a forced exit to Valley, but I remember that u-turn... I was 5 years old, I think, so 1988?

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=34.073952,-118.160822&spn=0.002639,0.005273&t=k&z=18

I never knew that.  Last time I was there, it looked like the berm after Valley Blvd is pretty well built up, as though it had always been there.

did they widen Valley Blvd, covering up the old turn-around point?
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Post by: Henry on April 21, 2011, 09:53:10 AM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on April 21, 2011, 02:04:04 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 20, 2011, 11:43:58 PM
I-70's eastern terminus in Baltimore does something somewhat similar, except that there's only one carriageway that makes the loop, and there's parking alongside (it is a Park & Ride, of course).
So did I-370 before the ICC, via a square loop. Probably the only freeway to end in a square instead of a circle.

I'm surprised no one mentioned the most classic example of all, I-170! Of course, it was to extend to I-70, but nothing ever came of it, which is why US 40 is there. On the western end, the pavement simply runs out before a 30-foot dropoff onto a local street.

EDIT: The western end is being torn down to make room for expansion of a train station parking lot, and possibly a new public transit route called the Red Line. (I would've taken it one step further and erased the rest of it as well!)
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Post by: froggie on April 21, 2011, 03:24:49 PM
QuoteI'm surprised no one mentioned the most classic example of all, I-170!

Probably because I-170 doesn't fit the criteria or intention of the post...freeways which U-turn at the end.
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Post by: Henry on April 21, 2011, 03:57:49 PM
Quote from: froggie on April 21, 2011, 03:24:49 PM
QuoteI'm surprised no one mentioned the most classic example of all, I-170!

Probably because I-170 doesn't fit the criteria or intention of the post...freeways which U-turn at the end.
Well, excuse me then! :pan: I have never seen a freeway make a U-turn like that!  :-D
Title: Re: How to dead end a freeway...LOL!
Post by: Alps on April 22, 2011, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: froggie on April 21, 2011, 07:15:19 AM
QuoteSo did I-370 before the ICC, via a square loop. Probably the only freeway to end in a square instead of a circle.

Not quite.  If you know your way through the Shady Grove metro station, you can get out to Redland Rd without having to take the "square loop" back onto I-370.  I've even used what is effectively a direct ramp from Redland Rd along the edge of the station to the beginning of I-370.

There may be an exit from the loop, but it's a loop nonetheless.
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Post by: froggie on April 23, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Heading into the station yes, but coming out of the station the primary road begins at Redland Rd.