Changing Control Cities

[Scott5114]

Hahaha! Just reading the last 24 hours of this thread and am thoroughly entertained! 

Obviously, Pittsburgh belongs as a control city on signs along I-76, I-79, and even I-70 to the east of it's divergence from the PA Turnpike. Why? Because that's the way a motorist would need to travel in order to get there.  The fact that those interstates don't enter the city proper doesn't matter - that's the route you travel to reach the correct exit to get to that place. This is the concept and it's fairly simple.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, I have to take the position of a rabid moderate: I found it to be a weird place with a nice and clean downtown but with really oddly configured neighborhoods and suburbs. Some of it was very dumpy, some of it just old and crowded, some nice.  But all strange to me. That said, Cranberry Twp has a lot of stuff and should be signed where appropriate.

Lastly, you lost me on the "Pittsburgh sucks" argument when you said that Baltimore is better. That's laughable.  Baltimore is not better - Baltimore is a real pit, and has been since at least 1969 (earliest I remember how it was driving through there). Whatever issues you had with Pittsburgh, I can assure you that they would've been 5 times worse in an equivalent part of Baltimore.

I think that he had a bad personal experience in Pittsburgh.

No shit?

[Max Rockatansky]

Hahaha! Just reading the last 24 hours of this thread and am thoroughly entertained! 

Obviously, Pittsburgh belongs as a control city on signs along I-76, I-79, and even I-70 to the east of it's divergence from the PA Turnpike. Why? Because that's the way a motorist would need to travel in order to get there.  The fact that those interstates don't enter the city proper doesn't matter - that's the route you travel to reach the correct exit to get to that place. This is the concept and it's fairly simple.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, I have to take the position of a rabid moderate: I found it to be a weird place with a nice and clean downtown but with really oddly configured neighborhoods and suburbs. Some of it was very dumpy, some of it just old and crowded, some nice.  But all strange to me. That said, Cranberry Twp has a lot of stuff and should be signed where appropriate.

Lastly, you lost me on the "Pittsburgh sucks" argument when you said that Baltimore is better. That's laughable.  Baltimore is not better - Baltimore is a real pit, and has been since at least 1969 (earliest I remember how it was driving through there). Whatever issues you had with Pittsburgh, I can assure you that they would've been 5 times worse in an equivalent part of Baltimore.

I think that he had a bad personal experience in Pittsburgh.

Or maybe it was such a good experience that he (presumably) wants Pittsburgh all to himself?

[jaehak]

Pittsburgh is a fine city. Baltimore is a fine city. Also - 70 west in Baltimore should have Pittsburgh as its control. Frederick, Hagerstown, Hancock, Breezewood, New Stanton, Washington PA - none of these are control city worthy. However, on the Changing Control City tip, there are no roads in Pittsburgh that should reciprocate and sign Baltimore (nor are there).

[Scott5114]

I don't know about Pittsburgh on I-70 out of Baltimore–I-70 itself doesn't get all that close to Pittsburgh, though it connects to a lot of highways that do. And some percentage of traffic is on I-70 to get to Ohio and isn't all that interested in Pittsburgh anyway.

[Roadgeekteen]

Pittsburgh is a fine city. Baltimore is a fine city. Also - 70 west in Baltimore should have Pittsburgh as its control. Frederick, Hagerstown, Hancock, Breezewood, New Stanton, Washington PA - none of these are control city worthy. However, on the Changing Control City tip, there are no roads in Pittsburgh that should reciprocate and sign Baltimore (nor are there).

Eh I-70 is a bit to far from Pittsburgh to justify signing it that far away.

[The Nature Boy]

Pittsburgh is a fine city. Baltimore is a fine city. Also - 70 west in Baltimore should have Pittsburgh as its control. Frederick, Hagerstown, Hancock, Breezewood, New Stanton, Washington PA - none of these are control city worthy. However, on the Changing Control City tip, there are no roads in Pittsburgh that should reciprocate and sign Baltimore (nor are there).

Eh I-70 is a bit to far from Pittsburgh to justify signing it that far away.

I would sign Pittsburgh, at least as a secondary control city, west of I-270 though. It's the next major city beyond that intersection.

[Roadgeekteen]

Pittsburgh is a fine city. Baltimore is a fine city. Also - 70 west in Baltimore should have Pittsburgh as its control. Frederick, Hagerstown, Hancock, Breezewood, New Stanton, Washington PA - none of these are control city worthy. However, on the Changing Control City tip, there are no roads in Pittsburgh that should reciprocate and sign Baltimore (nor are there).

Eh I-70 is a bit to far from Pittsburgh to justify signing it that far away.

I would sign Pittsburgh, at least as a secondary control city, west of I-270 though. It's the next major city beyond that intersection.

Maybe at important junctions.

[hobsini2]

Hahaha! Just reading the last 24 hours of this thread and am thoroughly entertained! 

Obviously, Pittsburgh belongs as a control city on signs along I-76, I-79, and even I-70 to the east of it's divergence from the PA Turnpike. Why? Because that's the way a motorist would need to travel in order to get there.  The fact that those interstates don't enter the city proper doesn't matter - that's the route you travel to reach the correct exit to get to that place. This is the concept and it's fairly simple.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, I have to take the position of a rabid moderate: I found it to be a weird place with a nice and clean downtown but with really oddly configured neighborhoods and suburbs. Some of it was very dumpy, some of it just old and crowded, some nice.  But all strange to me. That said, Cranberry Twp has a lot of stuff and should be signed where appropriate.

Lastly, you lost me on the "Pittsburgh sucks" argument when you said that Baltimore is better. That's laughable.  Baltimore is not better - Baltimore is a real pit, and has been since at least 1969 (earliest I remember how it was driving through there). Whatever issues you had with Pittsburgh, I can assure you that they would've been 5 times worse in an equivalent part of Baltimore.

Perhaps he is a disgruntled Ravens fan who hates the Steelers? Just spit ballin here.

[Roadgeekteen]

Hahaha! Just reading the last 24 hours of this thread and am thoroughly entertained! 

Obviously, Pittsburgh belongs as a control city on signs along I-76, I-79, and even I-70 to the east of it's divergence from the PA Turnpike. Why? Because that's the way a motorist would need to travel in order to get there.  The fact that those interstates don't enter the city proper doesn't matter - that's the route you travel to reach the correct exit to get to that place. This is the concept and it's fairly simple.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, I have to take the position of a rabid moderate: I found it to be a weird place with a nice and clean downtown but with really oddly configured neighborhoods and suburbs. Some of it was very dumpy, some of it just old and crowded, some nice.  But all strange to me. That said, Cranberry Twp has a lot of stuff and should be signed where appropriate.

Lastly, you lost me on the "Pittsburgh sucks" argument when you said that Baltimore is better. That's laughable.  Baltimore is not better - Baltimore is a real pit, and has been since at least 1969 (earliest I remember how it was driving through there). Whatever issues you had with Pittsburgh, I can assure you that they would've been 5 times worse in an equivalent part of Baltimore.

Perhaps he is a disgruntled Ravens fan who hates the Steelers? Just spit ballin here.

He's from Winchester. And he claims to have lived in Pittsburgh.

[Flint1979]

Hahaha! Just reading the last 24 hours of this thread and am thoroughly entertained! 

Obviously, Pittsburgh belongs as a control city on signs along I-76, I-79, and even I-70 to the east of it's divergence from the PA Turnpike. Why? Because that's the way a motorist would need to travel in order to get there.  The fact that those interstates don't enter the city proper doesn't matter - that's the route you travel to reach the correct exit to get to that place. This is the concept and it's fairly simple.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, I have to take the position of a rabid moderate: I found it to be a weird place with a nice and clean downtown but with really oddly configured neighborhoods and suburbs. Some of it was very dumpy, some of it just old and crowded, some nice.  But all strange to me. That said, Cranberry Twp has a lot of stuff and should be signed where appropriate.

Lastly, you lost me on the "Pittsburgh sucks" argument when you said that Baltimore is better. That's laughable.  Baltimore is not better - Baltimore is a real pit, and has been since at least 1969 (earliest I remember how it was driving through there). Whatever issues you had with Pittsburgh, I can assure you that they would've been 5 times worse in an equivalent part of Baltimore.

Perhaps he is a disgruntled Ravens fan who hates the Steelers? Just spit ballin here.

I think he had a bad experience in Pittsburgh and is taking it out on the entire city or I guess metro area since I've seen him bashing some Pittsburgh suburbs too. I've been to Pittsburgh a few times not too often but I've been there enough and it doesn't seem like that bad of a city just kind of a strange town I think I saw someone else say that too and I kind of felt that as well that times I've been there. I don't know really what to say about Pittsburgh but I don't really have anything bad to say about it. I thought the ride in on I-376 from Monroeville there was a stretch through there before you got to the tunnel that I didn't think was too safe but it might be fine and that's Wilkinsburg. Otherwise I guess I don't know enough about the Pittsburgh area but I just find it as a strange city. It's not any worse than any other city of it's size though that I've been to.

[bing101]

I-605 in Los Angeles County should have Duarte at its northbound control and Seal Beach at its southbound control city.

[Roadgeekteen]

I-605 in Los Angeles County should have Duarte at its north end and Seal Beach at its south end.

I would sign Los Angeles going north until I-5.

[Roadgeekteen]

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I-93 uses Concord in Massachusetts but Manchester starts getting used more in New Hampshire.