Department of Redundancy Department

[CovalenceSTU]

Weird, since at least from eyeballng it, the radii don't seem seem that bad.

It's the same as it was before the new flyover ramp (when there was only 1 sign) so the only thing I can think of is concerns about the sound barrier blocking the view. Although I can't imagine it does the job better then, say, a beacon and chevrons.

[LilianaUwU]

I think there's a two-way left turn lane here. This is on QC 138 WB in the village of Ragueneau, west of Baie-Comeau.

Redundancy in Ragueneau by Liliana Vess, on Flickr

[Mr. Matté]

North 652 to 652

[74/171FAN]

I found this near my current place of living last week.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219934450352133&set=a.10219934523073951)

[roadfro]

I found this near my current place of living last week.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219934450352133&set=a.10219934523073951)

A redundancy expressly prohibited by the MUTCD (two stop signs on one post).

[74/171FAN]

Two arrows on the guide sign (with no line separating them) on US 9 NB at NJ 70 WB (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219945575750261&set=a.10219945912918690)



On I-684 NB at its Rest Area (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980981675387&set=pcb.10219981105758489)

[GenExpwy]

Permanent VMS with a portable VMS stationed almost directly underneath.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3368538,-75.9866302,3a,45.7y,40.6h,89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sshfhKNo8Ep1zt1MRBtGG9g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

[roadfro]

Permanent VMS with a portable VMS stationed almost directly underneath.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3368538,-75.9866302,3a,45.7y,40.6h,89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sshfhKNo8Ep1zt1MRBtGG9g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

That's not necessarily redundant though...

Around here, overhead VMS installations are rarely used to provide construction-related information—preference being for traffic incidents, travel time info, Amber alerts, and maybe the occasional message about really major construction closures. Conversely, portable VMS devices are used like 95% of the time for construction project updates only. It likely relates to the DOT having control over what messaging is displayed on a permanent VMS, whereas a contractor can fairly easily change the message on their portable VMS as needed to accommodate changing conditions in the construction project.

[tmoore952]

Baltimore Beltway at Back River bridge

Judging from my driving around Maryland, whichever sign is newer here (guessing the roadside sign, see below) was probably placed en masse at all bridges regardless of whether the other sign existed or not.

My sense if my memory serves, is that the roadside signs are newer than the ones attached to bridges, if only for the fact that roadside signs are probably easier to install and replace.

[mrsman]

Permanent VMS with a portable VMS stationed almost directly underneath.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3368538,-75.9866302,3a,45.7y,40.6h,89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sshfhKNo8Ep1zt1MRBtGG9g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

That's not necessarily redundant though...

Around here, overhead VMS installations are rarely used to provide construction-related information—preference being for traffic incidents, travel time info, Amber alerts, and maybe the occasional message about really major construction closures. Conversely, portable VMS devices are used like 95% of the time for construction project updates only. It likely relates to the DOT having control over what messaging is displayed on a permanent VMS, whereas a contractor can fairly easily change the message on their portable VMS as needed to accommodate changing conditions in the construction project.

Correct.  I won't judge something as being redundant unless I know what the message actually says.

[wanderer2575]

Might be a truck route in Mansfield, OH:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/okiCzbNfK4cYaLDg9

[74/171FAN]

Might be a truck route in Mansfield, OH:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/okiCzbNfK4cYaLDg9

I touched those routes in June 2023 meaning that they infected my Top Stats List on Travel Mapping (https://travelmapping.net/user/topstats.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&).

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GbnQMc3X1gMKqPie6
Two Great River Road Shields.

[74/171FAN]

I found this near my current place of living last week.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219934450352133&set=a.10219934523073951)

This assembly is back to one stop sign as of yesterday.

[GaryV]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GbnQMc3X1gMKqPie6
Two Great River Road Shields.

Is there a different meaning to the green and brown colored signs?

[wanderer2575]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GbnQMc3X1gMKqPie6
Two Great River Road Shields.

Is there a different meaning to the green and brown colored signs?

Assuming it's not a redundancy, my guess is the green signs are for the main route and the brown signs are for spur or loop routes to points of interest.  That's how it works for Great Lakes Circle Tour signage.

[kphoger]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GbnQMc3X1gMKqPie6
Two Great River Road Shields.

Is there a different meaning to the green and brown colored signs?

Assuming it's not a redundancy, my guess is the green signs are for the main route and the brown signs are for spur or loop routes to points of interest.  That's how it works for Great Lakes Circle Tour signage.

green signs = main route = KY-94

brown signs = alternate route = KY-166

It's not entirely clear to me how the green trailblazer makes sense in that location, but it isn't redundant.

[mglass87]

They didn't take down the old shields yet:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/h9MTWfwnomN6gkw46

[wanderer2575]

They didn't take down the old shields yet:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/h9MTWfwnomN6gkw46

The aggravating thing is that's an ugly new install:  "East" tab is too big, "To" tab is too small, and "South" tab is missing altogether.  Who installed this, Goldilocks and the Three Bears?

[74/171FAN]

On Glenridge Dr south of I-285 near the I-285/GA 400 interchange (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220086626636445&set=a.10220087381215309)

[thenetwork]

On Glenridge Dr south of I-285 near the I-285/GA 400 interchange (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220086626636445&set=a.10220087381215309)

Even weirder, I don't think I've EVER seen a "TO" banner on a hospital sign assembly!

[mglass87]

I wonder if you're supposed to turn left here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cm1zk3vuUVFj4Hd38

[Dirt Roads]

I wonder if you're supposed to turn left here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cm1zk3vuUVFj4Hd38

Way off topic, but I thought that I had seen first-hand every possible method of unloading a railcar or a trailer.  I hope the trucker got out first.  Look far right. 

[freebrickproductions]

I wonder if you're supposed to turn left here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cm1zk3vuUVFj4Hd38

I have to wonder if that was put up by Hopewell (and being done on the cheap to avoid installing posts), or by the owner of that facility who was tired of people crashing through their fence.

Way off topic, but I thought that I had seen first-hand every possible method of unloading a railcar or a trailer.  I hope the trucker got out first.  Look far right. 

Looks like they did:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2968075,-77.2816456,3a,15y,257.23h,106.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slOHAWi1wIHqIhiVPTMJqaA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

[roadman65]

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.218521,-74.779687,3a,75y,52.47h,105.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQbRhHRMBpq6wfzqIf2G7WQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
However, two weight limit signs are still not enough.