There is no Nashville thread on here, so I feel now is the time to start one.
Here is an excellent first discussion point:
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/williamson/2014/08/16/crews-demolish-bridge-damaged-tanker-explosion/14170081/
The accident happened around 3 AM Friday morning, and the tanker truck was carrying a full load of gasoline and diesel which I'm assuming the driver picked up in Nashville to carry down to the southern part of the state to deliver to gas stations.
This stretch of I-65 is being widened from 4 to 8 lanes, and both the original, and part of the replacement, TN 248 bridges over I-65 were damaged beyond repair (though I'm assuming the bridge pier of the replacement will be salvaged). They will be disassembling both bridges over the weekend and don't expect to be finished until Monday afternoon.
This is already a traffic nightmare, and my suggestion for best alternative route for I-65 through traffic would be TN 840 to I-24.
I am wondering contractually how this will work. TDOT has a contract with Contractor A who has already agreed to certain contract terms, which assumes that the Peytonsville Road bridge over I-65 is open. With the bridge now closed, TDOT will probably want to do an accelerated replacement, but that will require changing the contract terms. Contractor A may balk at the new terms, so they may seek to go with another contractor to do just the bridge.
And yes, this will be a nightmare until the bridge is replaced. If I go to Nashville, it will be US 231 and I-24 for me.
Contractors on projects like this typically do a lot of business with the state, so my guess is they'd be very amenable to a change order. I'm pretty sure Kentucky has had similar situations where a change order was executed due to emergency circumstances.
(8) bridges along I-40/65 in Downtown Nashville to be replaced, starting in June, and finishing up in June 2016. Will require (13) weekends of complete road closures.
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/davidson%20/2015/04/14/major-changes-for-i-40-in-downtown-nashville/25775353/
I hope that adequate signage is posted to direct traffic onto TN 155, I-440, and TN 840 during this construction.
TDOT did pretty well with the I-40 SmartFix project in Knoxville, but it also worked better since I-40 was the only route being closed and there was a clear bypass. This time it is both I-40 and I-65, and while there are alternatives for both, you also have to deal with traffic to and from I-24. Without signage posted, you also have the chance of people taking I-65 North to I-24 east to bypass the closed section.
I would figure the existing contractor would ne more than happy to do the additional work. They can be the lowest bidder and still have a higher profit margin simply because they are already mobilized on site unlike competitors.
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on April 15, 2015, 07:55:07 PM
I would figure the existing contractor would ne more than happy to do the additional work. They can be the lowest bidder and still have a higher profit margin simply because they are already mobilized on site unlike competitors.
Which existing contractor are you referring to?
What's the name of the bridge for James Robertson Parkway (US 31-41-431) over the Cumberland River? I took a Google Street View scan of it, and I see some kind of related memorial on the southwest corner of the bridge.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 01, 2017, 11:57:18 AM
What's the name of the bridge for James Robertson Parkway (US 31-41-431) over the Cumberland River? I took a Google Street View scan of it, and I see some kind of related memorial on the southwest corner of the bridge.
Victory Memorial Bridge.
Thread revival time!!!
http://www.wsmv.com/story/37606037/i-440-continues-deteriorating-as-crews-work-to-patch-potholes
If you're following 40 through Nashville, just take 840 or Briley Pkwy. Pretend that they're already working on 440. You're much better off!
3 years to fix it! I can see why with it being done under traffic. That's going to be a nightmare. Maybe the traffic control plans will post alternate routes along Briley.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 01, 2017, 11:57:18 AM
What's the name of the bridge for James Robertson Parkway (US 31-41-431) over the Cumberland River? I took a Google Street View scan of it, and I see some kind of related memorial on the southwest corner of the bridge.
The lack of signs off I-24 is disappointing.
It amazes me that as much as TDOT keeps up on paving projects on the major interstates, we still have original concrete pavement from the mid-late 80's construction on I-440 and has never been completely overhauled! I don't take 440 as much as I used to, especially since 840 is finished from my side of Nashville to Dickson.
Quote from: jpi on February 28, 2018, 01:07:52 PM
It amazes me that as much as TDOT keeps up on paving projects on the major interstates, we still have original concrete pavement from the mid-late 80's construction on I-440 and has never been completely overhauled! I don't take 440 as much as I used to, especially since 840 is finished from my side of Nashville to Dickson.
I think they rehabbed/diamond-ground it twice. First time was I think in the mid-90s, and the second time was I think right after I moved away, around 2011. They also did some slab replacements both times. Since the original depth of the concrete has definitely been compromised, it's a wonder it had all held up for as long as it did. But I will say they used a very good mix back in the mid-80s, and I'm assuming proper dowel bars between the slabs.
I-440 has been rehabilitated. It is still concrete unlike any of the other roads in the area.
TDOT is now considering shutting down sections of I-440 for months at a time for reconstruction/widening, cutting down overall project duration from 3 years to just 1 year.
DO IT!!!!!
http://www.wsmv.com/story/38313154/tdot-may-consider-closing-sections-of-i-440-for-construction
Quote from: wriddle082 on May 31, 2018, 05:29:28 PM
TDOT is now considering shutting down sections of I-440 for months at a time for reconstruction/widening, cutting down overall project duration from 3 years to just 1 year.
DO IT!!!!!
http://www.wsmv.com/story/38313154/tdot-may-consider-closing-sections-of-i-440-for-construction
Yes please!!!!!!! Anything that gets it done faster!
Quote from: wriddle082 on May 31, 2018, 05:29:28 PM
TDOT is now considering shutting down sections of I-440 for months at a time for reconstruction/widening, cutting down overall project duration from 3 years to just 1 year.
DO IT!!!!!
http://www.wsmv.com/story/38313154/tdot-may-consider-closing-sections-of-i-440-for-construction
It would make the project cheaper if it was done this way too. We are grappling with a similar sort of issue here in Huntsville on whether to close a road to widen it.
Quote from: wriddle082 on May 31, 2018, 05:29:28 PM
TDOT is now considering shutting down sections of I-440 for months at a time for reconstruction/widening, cutting down overall project duration from 3 years to just 1 year.
DO IT!!!!!
http://www.wsmv.com/story/38313154/tdot-may-consider-closing-sections-of-i-440-for-construction
I think that it's a great idea. It will suck for the drivers there for a little bit, but it works out in the long run.
Sounds like a great idea to me as a monthly driver of 440. It is my least favorite interstate in that metro area given how deteriorated the concrete pavement is in sections especially the 24->65 stretch.
I was with the 101st before and during Desert Storm but haven't been to Tenn since. I think it's synchronicity that I just bought a motor carriers atlas today and noticed a new highway (I-840) around Nashville and also noticed this thread. I think construction started on it right after I left.
TDOT is holding a public meeting tonight to present the alternatives for the I-440 reconstruction.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/38608247/tdot-to-discuss-i-440-reconstruction-at-community-meeting
I, for one, am glad they are considering multiple options. I grew up seeing I-440 constructed (even vaguely remember the ghost ramps in the very early 80's) and drove across the length of it for years, admiring two underrated views of the downtown skyline on every trip. Have watched it get slightly improved b/w I-65 and I-24 to alleviate bottlenecks (though I'm sure by now the bottlenecks are back), and have watched the pavement be diamond-ground at least twice, and then further deteriorate to something I wouldn't expect to be maintained by TDOT. Though I no longer live in the Nashville area, this 7.2 mile stretch of highway will always have a special place in my heart.
Will additional lanes be added to Interstate 440?
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 10, 2018, 03:32:08 PM
Will additional lanes be added to Interstate 440?
Yes! They will get rid of the raised grassy median and add one general purpose lane in each direction. Not sure how they will accomplish adding the extra lanes to the top level bridges of the stack interchange with I-65, but I assume they will be addressing that in their plans.
Quote from: wriddle082 on July 10, 2018, 08:07:34 PMNot sure how they will accomplish adding the extra lanes to the top level bridges of the stack interchange with I-65, but I assume they will be addressing that in their plans.
I was looking at that: the main spans of the existing structure are very long, spanning the entire I-65 and US 31 mainlines. Here's the satellite view (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1138268,-86.7732514,252a,35y,39.39t/data=!3m1!1e3).So, assuming the new spans are the same as the old, at least the piers will be away from the roadways as opposed to being in a narrow median. Actually, I'd be surprised if TDOT didn't design it with expansion in mind out of disdain for those who kept it from being six lanes in the first place.
They need to inspect I-40 as it passes over Davidson Road between exits 201 and 199. Underneath this bridge, two large chunks of concrete have dislodged at the top of the underpass, one of which fell all the way down to the sidewalk on Davidson. Nothing appears to have been done since it was brought to their attention when the second, bigger, chunk fell, exposing some of the rebar.
^^^
Those issues always look worse than they really are, even with the exposed rebar.
Quote from: HPfromTN on July 13, 2018, 01:13:23 PM
They need to inspect I-40 as it passes over Davidson Road between exits 201 and 199. Underneath this bridge, two large chunks of concrete have dislodged at the top of the underpass, one of which fell all the way down to the sidewalk on Davidson. Nothing appears to have been done since it was brought to their attention when the second, bigger, chunk fell, exposing some of the rebar.
This really doesn't surprise me. Even though it's been several years since driving over that particular overpass was part of my daily commute, I do remember this bridge being particularly bumpy when driving across it. And I would frequently drive underneath it from time to time to either visit a couple of friends or go to a work location in West Meade.
Keep in mind, the original bridge was built probably around "˜62 or "˜63, and was widened to six lanes around "˜90 or "˜91. Probably due for some good maintenance right about now.
Having gone through that route today - I couldn't agree more - but consider the issues with the mess at the eastern end as well (I-24/I-40). That is a very poorly designed interchange that at both 8:30 and 10:30 caused back-ups from 40 and 24 to 440. One has to plan ahead because they don't know where the second turn is. I've seen many do the last-minute lane change thing on the second ramp.
Well, I found the video talking about the I-440 project in Nashville, and guess what?? They are going to keep all lanes open to traffic with nighttime restrictions... :clap: :clap: :clap:
Probably because they don't want to add more traffic on I-40 or through downtown Nashville...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCyfJg-pgpg
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on October 25, 2018, 06:09:12 AM
Well, I found the video talking about the I-440 project in Nashville, and guess what?? They are going to keep all lanes open to traffic with nighttime restrictions... :clap: :clap: :clap:
Probably because they don't want to add more traffic on I-40 or through downtown Nashville...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCyfJg-pgpg
It will still be a mess, due to the existing aux lanes disappearing, and I would imagine the speed limit would be reduced to 50 or 45.
Thank goodness I can use 840 to visit all of my peeps!
Nashville to me is getting worse than Atlanta
SM-G950U
Dusting this off, here is the preliminary plans for widening US 31 between Duplex Road in Spring Hill and I-840 in Thompsons Station.
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AEBjKRVKD%5Fplw8s&cid=FE8AE11B532E1573&id=FE8AE11B532E1573%216542&parId=root&o=OneUp (https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AEBjKRVKD%5Fplw8s&cid=FE8AE11B532E1573&id=FE8AE11B532E1573%216542&parId=root&o=OneUp)
The actual 5 lane portion will only go from Miles Johnson Parkway to I-840. Unfortunately, they will be slightly narrower than normal due to ROW constraints (11 ft vs the normal 12 ft lanes), but this is much needed.
Anything that can help the routes around Spring Hill, the better.
People are going to rip me for saying this. Express Toll lanes should be added to interstates in Nashville IMO. The city's growth rate rivals 2000 Atlanta and Atlanta was 20 years too late in doing this. Now Atlanta is finally able to do interchange improvements that were needed 30 years ago as a result of having Express lanes that started 10 years ago. The 400 toll in Georgia the 90s was Garbage IMO. Nashville needs to be proactive on this because construction costs are higher because of the terrain. Not to mention many surface streets need to be improved
Quote from: Tomahawkin on February 09, 2021, 10:23:23 PM
People are going to rip me for saying this. Express Toll lanes should be added to interstates in Nashville IMO. The city's growth rate rivals 2000 Atlanta and Atlanta was 20 years too late in doing this. Now Atlanta is finally able to do interchange improvements that were needed 30 years ago as a result of having Express lanes that started 10 years ago. The 400 toll in Georgia the 90s was Garbage IMO. Nashville needs to be proactive on this because construction costs are higher because of the terrain. Not to mention many surface streets need to be improved
What Nashville needs is bus on shoulder service from downtown along the I-40/24/65 corridors to Lebanon, Murfreesboro and Spring Hill respectively.
The Nashville metro area is still a long way from matching Atlanta though.
Quote from: I-39 on February 09, 2021, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: Tomahawkin on February 09, 2021, 10:23:23 PM
People are going to rip me for saying this. Express Toll lanes should be added to interstates in Nashville IMO. The city's growth rate rivals 2000 Atlanta and Atlanta was 20 years too late in doing this. Now Atlanta is finally able to do interchange improvements that were needed 30 years ago as a result of having Express lanes that started 10 years ago. The 400 toll in Georgia the 90s was Garbage IMO. Nashville needs to be proactive on this because construction costs are higher because of the terrain. Not to mention many surface streets need to be improved
What Nashville needs is bus on shoulder service from downtown along the I-40/24/65 corridors to Lebanon, Murfreesboro and Spring Hill respectively.
The Nashville metro area is still a long way from matching Atlanta though.
Bus priority signals were installed at some intersections along US 41/70S between Nashville and Murfreesboro, but I don't think express bus service was ever implemented along that corridor.
A smart corridor project is underway along I-24 between those two cities. I am not sure if it will allow for busses to run along the shoulder or not.
Quote from: codyg1985 on February 10, 2021, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: I-39 on February 09, 2021, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: Tomahawkin on February 09, 2021, 10:23:23 PM
People are going to rip me for saying this. Express Toll lanes should be added to interstates in Nashville IMO. The city's growth rate rivals 2000 Atlanta and Atlanta was 20 years too late in doing this. Now Atlanta is finally able to do interchange improvements that were needed 30 years ago as a result of having Express lanes that started 10 years ago. The 400 toll in Georgia the 90s was Garbage IMO. Nashville needs to be proactive on this because construction costs are higher because of the terrain. Not to mention many surface streets need to be improved
What Nashville needs is bus on shoulder service from downtown along the I-40/24/65 corridors to Lebanon, Murfreesboro and Spring Hill respectively.
The Nashville metro area is still a long way from matching Atlanta though.
Bus priority signals were installed at some intersections along US 41/70S between Nashville and Murfreesboro, but I don't think express bus service was ever implemented along that corridor.
A smart corridor project is underway along I-24 between those two cities. I am not sure if it will allow for busses to run along the shoulder or not.
What Nashville needs is a reconfiguration of the 2di interstate junctions to minimize weaving. That would be a start.
From the I-65 Improvements in TN thread:
Quote from: I-55 on August 09, 2020, 10:45:48 AM
What I-65 (and the rest of Nashville) needs are a complete redesign of the freeway junctions in downtown. On the I-65/I-40 concurrency, both directions (NB and SB) merge onto I-40 from the left hand side and exit from the right hand side, giving less than two miles to weave (and no one takes 65 south to 40 east, that's what 24 and Briley are for). The I-65/I-24 concurrency is the same way, I-65 enters the concurrency on the left hand side and has only about two miles to weave across I-24. The northbound merge backs up almost daily and I often find myself taking Ellington Parkway. Between the two concurrencies, I-65 enters its own route northbound from the right and exits into the I-24 concurrency on the left, southbound it enters and exits on the right (and I've never had a problem in that direction, imagine that). Similar situations exist for 40 and 24. If the interchanges can be rebuilt to reduce the weaving I think traffic in Nashville will greatly improve, it'll still exist and be heavy, but will improve nevertheless. Width on Nashville's interstates is not a problem at all, it is 100% in the design, dating back to the original designs that did not expect the growth of the area to be what it is now, a problem realized only in retrospect.
TL;DR: Rebuild interchanges to reduce weaving on concurrencies
I-39, did you bother to check to see if an older Nashville thread already existed?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=13237.0
Sorry to nitpick, but I started that thread years ago, and I guess it went by the wayside since it hasn't been touched in nearly two years.
If an admin is watching, could that thread be merged with this one somehow, please?
Quote from: I-39 on February 09, 2021, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: Tomahawkin on February 09, 2021, 10:23:23 PM
People are going to rip me for saying this. Express Toll lanes should be added to interstates in Nashville IMO. The city's growth rate rivals 2000 Atlanta and Atlanta was 20 years too late in doing this. Now Atlanta is finally able to do interchange improvements that were needed 30 years ago as a result of having Express lanes that started 10 years ago. The 400 toll in Georgia the 90s was Garbage IMO. Nashville needs to be proactive on this because construction costs are higher because of the terrain. Not to mention many surface streets need to be improved
What Nashville needs is bus on shoulder service from downtown along the I-40/24/65 corridors to Lebanon, Murfreesboro and Spring Hill respectively.
The Nashville metro area is still a long way from matching Atlanta though.
If transit really is the answer, then first off they need to better utilize the Music City Star light rail going to Lebanon.
As for the Murfreesboro corridor, let's see how the currently ongoing I-24 Smart Corridor upgrades go first, and do something similar for the Spring Hill/Columbia corridor. Then if that doesn't work, try the bus lanes, or light rail. I'm just not sure how they are going to fit HOT lanes into the existing ROWs on any of the Nashville-area freeways.
As an aside, I used to work with a lot of people who would commute into Nashville from as far away as Columbia, Mt. Pleasant, and even Hohenwald! It's a wonder something more significant hasn't happened in that direction by now.
And it was bad enough for me commuting in from the west side (south Cheatham County) along I-40. Any wreck on 40 west creates armageddon and immediately turns US 70 and TN 100 into parking lots. But commuters from that side of town are constantly given the shaft. I-40 was widened to Bellevue in 1991. Yes, 30 years ago! And the bridges between Bellevue and McCrory were widened in 1996, but the extra width has yet to be utilized by new lanes. Meanwhile, Dickson County continues to grow, as it is a very affordable and pleasant place to live (though my parents are actually in the process of downsizing and moving back into Nashville proper, but that's their thing, and they sold their property to Californians).
-Billy
proud, albeit displaced for 10 years, Nashville native
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 10, 2021, 03:00:28 PM
I-39, did you bother to check to see if an older Nashville thread already existed?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=13237.0
Sorry to nitpick, but I started that thread years ago, and I guess it went by the wayside since it hasn't been touched in nearly two years.
If an admin is watching, could that thread be merged with this one somehow, please?
Quote from: I-39 on February 09, 2021, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: Tomahawkin on February 09, 2021, 10:23:23 PM
People are going to rip me for saying this. Express Toll lanes should be added to interstates in Nashville IMO. The city's growth rate rivals 2000 Atlanta and Atlanta was 20 years too late in doing this. Now Atlanta is finally able to do interchange improvements that were needed 30 years ago as a result of having Express lanes that started 10 years ago. The 400 toll in Georgia the 90s was Garbage IMO. Nashville needs to be proactive on this because construction costs are higher because of the terrain. Not to mention many surface streets need to be improved
What Nashville needs is bus on shoulder service from downtown along the I-40/24/65 corridors to Lebanon, Murfreesboro and Spring Hill respectively.
The Nashville metro area is still a long way from matching Atlanta though.
If transit really is the answer, then first off they need to better utilize the Music City Star light rail going to Lebanon.
As for the Murfreesboro corridor, let's see how the currently ongoing I-24 Smart Corridor upgrades go first, and do something similar for the Spring Hill/Columbia corridor. Then if that doesn't work, try the bus lanes, or light rail. I'm just not sure how they are going to fit HOT lanes into the existing ROWs on any of the Nashville-area freeways.
As an aside, I used to work with a lot of people who would commute into Nashville from as far away as Columbia, Mt. Pleasant, and even Hohenwald! It's a wonder something more significant hasn't happened in that direction by now.
And it was bad enough for me commuting in from the west side (south Cheatham County) along I-40. Any wreck on 40 west creates armageddon and immediately turns US 70 and TN 100 into parking lots. But commuters from that side of town are constantly given the shaft. I-40 was widened to Bellevue in 1991. Yes, 30 years ago! And the bridges between Bellevue and McCrory were widened in 1996, but the extra width has yet to be utilized by new lanes. Meanwhile, Dickson County continues to grow, as it is a very affordable and pleasant place to live (though my parents are actually in the process of downsizing and moving back into Nashville proper, but that's their thing, and they sold their property to Californians).
-Billy
proud, albeit displaced for 10 years, Nashville native
Apologies, I didn't look that far back. Yes, please merge this mods if you are watching.
Anyway, I stated Spring Hill because a fair amount of Columbia comes up via US 31 to SR 396. I would think any transit corridor along I-65 would end at Saturn Parkway. They do need to get going on extending the eight lane section from I-840 to Saturn.
They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that know the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say they clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 24, 2021, 07:54:56 AM
They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
Quote from: I-39 on February 24, 2021, 08:46:22 AM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 24, 2021, 07:54:56 AM
They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
I am not even sure why Spring Hill pushed so much for that interchange. It is only going to screw up the traffic even more. If you want to access the northside of Spring Hill exit off to I-840 to US 431 then you can access via Critz Lane to Pantall Road. Such ease of movement and a nice drive as well. I see no need at all to extend 8 lanes past SR 396.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 24, 2021, 09:50:08 AM
Quote from: I-39 on February 24, 2021, 08:46:22 AM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 24, 2021, 07:54:56 AM
They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
I am not even sure why Spring Hill pushed so much for that interchange. It is only going to screw up the traffic even more. If you want to access the northside of Spring Hill exit off to I-840 to US 431 then you can access via Critz Lane to Pantall Road. Such ease of movement and a nice drive as well. I see no need at all to extend 8 lanes past SR 396.
What? How often do you drive this area?
As a Spring Hill resident, another I-65 exit is badly needed (especially with the June Lake development going in). Right now, the only direct access to I-65 in Spring Hill is from SR 396, which doesn't work well for half of the town. The way you describe is not feasible due to it being narrow (and dangerous) two lane roads. I've gone those back ways and it doesn't work well. Actually, the Buckner Road interchange will relieve some traffic off of US 31, but it will add more cars to that I-65 segment, hence, the need to extend the eight lanes.
And just for clarification, no, I-65 doesn't need eight lanes south of SR 396, but it might need six lanes to Bear Creek Pike at some point, but that is a ways off. That was the point I was trying to make.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 24, 2021, 07:54:56 AM
It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point.
In times of heavy traffic, this is
EXACTLY what you're supposed to do...use the lane fully until it ends.
Drivers like you are the reason why zipper merges don't work the way they're supposed to.
Quote from: I-39 on February 24, 2021, 10:25:52 AM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 24, 2021, 09:50:08 AM
Quote from: I-39 on February 24, 2021, 08:46:22 AM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 24, 2021, 07:54:56 AM
They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
I am not even sure why Spring Hill pushed so much for that interchange. It is only going to screw up the traffic even more. If you want to access the northside of Spring Hill exit off to I-840 to US 431 then you can access via Critz Lane to Pantall Road. Such ease of movement and a nice drive as well. I see no need at all to extend 8 lanes past SR 396.
What? How often do you drive this area?
As a Spring Hill resident, another I-65 exit is badly needed (especially with the June Lake development going in). Right now, the only direct access to I-65 in Spring Hill is from SR 396, which doesn't work well for half of the town. The way you describe is not feasible due to it being narrow (and dangerous) two lane roads. I've gone those back ways and it doesn't work well. Actually, the Buckner Road interchange will relieve some traffic off of US 31, but it will add more cars to that I-65 segment, hence, the need to extend the eight lanes.
And just for clarification, no, I-65 doesn't need eight lanes south of SR 396, but it might need six lanes to Bear Creek Pike at some point, but that is a ways off. That was the point I was trying to make.
Enough to see the Fuqua and Hagaman for mayor signs popping up all over town. I have been in the area for a long time. The folks moving into town knew full well that when they moved in that US 31 is two lanes, SR 396 serves as the only direct I-65 exit and the majority of the roads other then the residential streets and states roads are narrow. Heck even SR 247 is narrow west of US 31 (SR 6).
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 24, 2021, 01:30:05 PMEnough to see the Fuqua and Hagaman for mayor signs popping up all over town. I have been in the area for a long time. The folks moving into town knew full well that when they moved in that US 31 is two lanes, SR 396 serves as the only direct I-65 exit and the majority of the roads other then the residential streets and states roads are narrow. Heck even SR 247 is narrow west of US 31 (SR 6).
So in other words, just leave everything as it is? That's completely ridiculous.
Look, development is going to continue whether you like it or not. Spring Hill and TDOT need to upgrade the roads to handle it. You can't stay the same forever.
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They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
All you are going to do is move the merge. The merge point was heretofore at Goose Creek By-Pass/Peytonsville Road and the same thing existed. Once you were past the bottleneck it was wide open with volume. You are just moving the merge point.
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They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
All you are going to do is move the merge. The merge point was heretofore at Goose Creek By-Pass/Peytonsville Road and the same thing existed. Once you were past the bottleneck it was wide open with volume. You are just moving the merge point.
Not really, as a lot of traffic gets off at SR 396. It wouldn't be as nearly as bad as I-840.
By your logic, I-65 shouldn't have been widened south of SR 96.
Extend the 3rd mainline lane all the way to 396. Build an interchange at Thompson's Station Rd.
Have a 4th auxiliary lane on each side between the entrance/exit for 396 to the entrance/exit at the new interchange. Do the same thing between the new interchange and 840. Sign 396 as an interstate (optional, but cool).
Sign the exits for both Thompson's Station and 396 right as traffic enters from 840, in overhead bgs format to let motorists know the distance and lanes that'll go away.
[ EXIT 53 ]
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[ Huntsville ] [ Spring Hill ] [ Thompson's Station Rd ]
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This should keep slower motorists going south of 396 from merging over to the right, and free up the second lane from the right (at least a little) If you miss your merge, tough luck, take the exit and try again.
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They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
All you are going to do is move the merge. The merge point was heretofore at Goose Creek By-Pass/Peytonsville Road and the same thing existed. Once you were past the bottleneck it was wide open with volume. You are just moving the merge point.
Not really, as a lot of traffic gets off at SR 396. It wouldn't be as nearly as bad as I-840.
By your logic, I-65 shouldn't have been widened south of SR 96.
I was fine with I-65 when it was four lanes all through Williamson County.
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Extend the 3rd mainline lane all the way to 396. Build an interchange at Thompson's Station Rd.
Have a 4th auxiliary lane on each side between the entrance/exit for 396 to the entrance/exit at the new interchange. Do the same thing between the new interchange and 840. Sign 396 as an interstate (optional, but cool).
Sign the exits for both Thompson's Station and 396 right as traffic enters from 840, in overhead bgs format to let motorists know the distance and lanes that'll go away.
[ EXIT 53 ]
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[ ( I-65 ) SOUTH ] [ (TN-396) WEST ] [ EXIT 57 ]
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[ Huntsville ] [ Spring Hill ] [ Thompson's Station Rd ]
[ ] [ Columbia ] [ ]
[ | | ] [ 4 | MILES ] [ 1 1/4 | MILES ]
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This should keep slower motorists going south of 396 from merging over to the right, and free up the second lane from the right (at least a little) If you miss your merge, tough luck, take the exit and try again.
Thompson's Station Rd is in Thompson's Station at that point. There is much less enthusiasm there about development in that corridor. The Alexander farm to the south is sold off and the Buckner Road interchange in Spring Hill will be built. I am not happy at all about that but it is in the plans and approved. I disagreed with Rick Graham (Spring Hill Mayor) over pushing for an interchange at this location. They could have built a feeder/collector ramp from SR 396 over behind Kroger to Lovell Lane and Carpenter Pass.
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They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
All you are going to do is move the merge. The merge point was heretofore at Goose Creek By-Pass/Peytonsville Road and the same thing existed. Once you were past the bottleneck it was wide open with volume. You are just moving the merge point.
Not really, as a lot of traffic gets off at SR 396. It wouldn't be as nearly as bad as I-840.
By your logic, I-65 shouldn't have been widened south of SR 96.
I was fine with I-65 when it was four lanes all through Williamson County.
Well sorry, but growth happens. If you don't like the growth in Williamson County, move to Hohenwald. Regardless of your personal feelings, the Buckner interchange and I-65 widening is needed.
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They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
All you are going to do is move the merge. The merge point was heretofore at Goose Creek By-Pass/Peytonsville Road and the same thing existed. Once you were past the bottleneck it was wide open with volume. You are just moving the merge point.
Not really, as a lot of traffic gets off at SR 396. It wouldn't be as nearly as bad as I-840.
By your logic, I-65 shouldn't have been widened south of SR 96.
I was fine with I-65 when it was four lanes all through Williamson County.
Well sorry, but growth happens. If you don't like the growth in Williamson County, move to Hohenwald. Regardless of your personal feelings, the Buckner interchange and I-65 widening is needed.
Well look what it did for Smyrna; nothing. It did nothing but make traffic worse in Smyrna. SR 266 is four lanes now and it is always so backed up when I go out that way. It was never like that when it was two lanes. I-24 is widened but it still backs up. Adding lanes will just add more congestion.
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They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
All you are going to do is move the merge. The merge point was heretofore at Goose Creek By-Pass/Peytonsville Road and the same thing existed. Once you were past the bottleneck it was wide open with volume. You are just moving the merge point.
Not really, as a lot of traffic gets off at SR 396. It wouldn't be as nearly as bad as I-840.
By your logic, I-65 shouldn't have been widened south of SR 96.
I was fine with I-65 when it was four lanes all through Williamson County.
Well sorry, but growth happens. If you don't like the growth in Williamson County, move to Hohenwald. Regardless of your personal feelings, the Buckner interchange and I-65 widening is needed.
Well look what it did for Smyrna; nothing. It did nothing but make traffic worse in Smyrna. SR 266 is four lanes now and it is always so backed up when I go out that way. It was never like that when it was two lanes. I-24 is widened but it still backs up. Adding lanes will just add more congestion.
Doing nothing adds even more congestion. What are they suppose to do? Imagine if I-65 was still four lanes throughout Williamson County. By your logic, nothing would ever get widened. And your proposal above is a terrible idea as it does nothing to help the congestion on the north side of town.
People complaining about the growth is getting really annoying. Either you are moving forward or backward, things can't stay the same forever.
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They don't need any more lanes south of I-840. The number of lanes is sufficient. It is the right lane runners who do not want to merge until the last minute that cause the bottlenecks. These are the folks that now the lane merges but insist on running the right lane all the way to the merge point. I saw someone get killed once because they ran the right lane all the way to the merge point then they attempted to slingshot over to the left lane in front of everyone. Needless to say the clipped other vehicles and they were lifeless.
Completely disagree. It is very tight on the stretch between I-840 and SR 396 (I drive this all the time) and SB I-65 at I-840 routinely sees backups on (especially on Friday's) due to the the merge. Also, the Buckner Road interchange and the forthcoming June Lake development (not to mention the continued growth of south Spring Hill which will put more commuters on SR 396 to I-65) is only going to intensify an already busy corridor.
Once the Buckner Road interchange goes in, TDOT is going to need to get a move on extending the eight lane section of I-65 from I-840 to SR 396. However, south of there to Bear Creek Pike isn't quite needed at this time.
All you are going to do is move the merge. The merge point was heretofore at Goose Creek By-Pass/Peytonsville Road and the same thing existed. Once you were past the bottleneck it was wide open with volume. You are just moving the merge point.
Not really, as a lot of traffic gets off at SR 396. It wouldn't be as nearly as bad as I-840.
By your logic, I-65 shouldn't have been widened south of SR 96.
I was fine with I-65 when it was four lanes all through Williamson County.
Well sorry, but growth happens. If you don't like the growth in Williamson County, move to Hohenwald. Regardless of your personal feelings, the Buckner interchange and I-65 widening is needed.
Well look what it did for Smyrna; nothing. It did nothing but make traffic worse in Smyrna. SR 266 is four lanes now and it is always so backed up when I go out that way. It was never like that when it was two lanes. I-24 is widened but it still backs up. Adding lanes will just add more congestion.
Doing nothing adds even more congestion. What are they suppose to do? Imagine if I-65 was still four lanes throughout Williamson County. By your logic, nothing would ever get widened. And your proposal above is a terrible idea as it does nothing to help the congestion on the north side of town.
People complaining about the growth is getting really annoying. Either you are moving forward or backward, things can't stay the same forever.
Have you even tried going I-65 to I-840 to US 431 to Critz Ln to Pantall Rd to Thompson's Station Rd to access the north end of town. It's a pretty good ride. There is even a traffic light at Critz Ln and US 431.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on February 25, 2021, 02:36:36 PMHave you even tried going I-65 to I-840 to US 431 to Critz Ln to Pantall Rd to Thompson's Station Rd to access the north end of town. It's a pretty good ride. There is even a traffic light at Critz Ln and US 431.
Yep, but that is not even remotely convenient for most people as a Buckner Road interchange. Plus, those roads are substandard, dangerous roads (especially at night). You still have to get on Buckner or US 31 sooner or later, which are narrow two lane roads, but I guess those shouldn't be widened either.
With all due respect, you are being a bit ridiculous here. Development has and will continue to happen and the roads need to be widened, period. If you don't like it, move out to the country. This is the suburbs.
It appears that work is beginning along Buckner Ln in Spring Hill. Some of the best land is being torn up at this time.
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It appears that work is beginning along Buckner Ln in Spring Hill. Some of the best land is being torn up at this time.
I drove along I-65 and US 431 on Monday through that area, and I didn't see any evidence of construction at the interstate or along US 431. I guess they will be working from west to east.
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It appears that work is beginning along Buckner Ln in Spring Hill. Some of the best land is being torn up at this time.
I drove along I-65 and US 431 on Monday through that area, and I didn't see any evidence of construction at the interstate or along US 431. I guess they will be working from west to east.
They are indeed doing that. They are working on realigning Buckner Lane between Buckner Road and Thompson's Station Road at the moment. Next year they will begin construction on the actual interchange as well as widening Buckner Lane south to Duplex Road. Both are critically needed, along with widening 31 and Port Royal Road.
At long last, the Mack Hatcher northwest extension opened today.
http://www.williamsonherald.com/news/local_news/mack-hatcher-northwest-extension-opens/article_ba49e98e-5199-11ec-a230-cb685493c7c6.html (http://www.williamsonherald.com/news/local_news/mack-hatcher-northwest-extension-opens/article_ba49e98e-5199-11ec-a230-cb685493c7c6.html)
Now onto widening both this extension and the southeast leg, as well as Columbia Ave.
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At long last, the Mack Hatcher northwest extension opened today.
http://www.williamsonherald.com/news/local_news/mack-hatcher-northwest-extension-opens/article_ba49e98e-5199-11ec-a230-cb685493c7c6.html (http://www.williamsonherald.com/news/local_news/mack-hatcher-northwest-extension-opens/article_ba49e98e-5199-11ec-a230-cb685493c7c6.html)
Now onto widening both this extension and the southeast leg, as well as Columbia Ave.
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This is a whacked out way to route anything. It will not be long before that is opened up and developed.
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At long last, the Mack Hatcher northwest extension opened today.
http://www.williamsonherald.com/news/local_news/mack-hatcher-northwest-extension-opens/article_ba49e98e-5199-11ec-a230-cb685493c7c6.html (http://www.williamsonherald.com/news/local_news/mack-hatcher-northwest-extension-opens/article_ba49e98e-5199-11ec-a230-cb685493c7c6.html)
Now onto widening both this extension and the southeast leg, as well as Columbia Ave.
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This is a whacked out way to route anything. It will not be long before that is opened up and developed.
Lol, I wondered when you'd reply.
Not sure if I'd really want to build anything on the NW side of Franklin considering the massive flood plain there. Nevertheless, widening will be needed on this section within 5-10 years thanks to the overbuilt Westhaven subdivision.
I don't see the SW leg being built for another 20-30 years at the soonest. There is not really an urgent need for it at the moment. So many things are needed ahead of it.
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At long last, the Mack Hatcher northwest extension opened today.
http://www.williamsonherald.com/news/local_news/mack-hatcher-northwest-extension-opens/article_ba49e98e-5199-11ec-a230-cb685493c7c6.html (http://www.williamsonherald.com/news/local_news/mack-hatcher-northwest-extension-opens/article_ba49e98e-5199-11ec-a230-cb685493c7c6.html)
Now onto widening both this extension and the southeast leg, as well as Columbia Ave.
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This is a whacked out way to route anything. It will not be long before that is opened up and developed.
Lol, I wondered when you'd reply.
Not sure if I'd really want to build anything on the NW side of Franklin considering the massive flood plain there. Nevertheless, widening will be needed on this section within 5-10 years thanks to the overbuilt Westhaven subdivision.
I don't see the SW leg being built for another 20-30 years at the soonest. There is not really an urgent need for it at the moment. So many things are needed ahead of it.
Those that moved into Westhaven should have known the cumbersome issues they moved into.
It looks like barriers are going up on I-65 in Spring Hill at the Buckner Road interchange site. Good to see this critically needed project moving forward.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/on-the-rise/one-time-fund-would-widen-roads-improve-major-interchanges-in-tennessee
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One-time fund would widen roads, improve major interchanges
Gov. Lee prioritizes 22 TDOT projects, with half in Middle Tenn.
It was the biggest job announcement in state history.
With Oracle's pledge to bring 8,500 jobs to Nashville and make a $1.2 billion investment in the River North development, Gov. Bill Lee has prioritized a major road project to accommodate the plan.
In a list of 22 projects just released, he's appropriating $40 million for the Oracle project. The plan calls for the Tennessee Department of Transportation to raise Interstate 24, creating an underpass, extending Cleveland St below the interstate to reach River North. The road currently dead-ends at Dickerson Road.
The plan also calls for a pedestrian tunnel from Grace Street under the interstate to allow people and bikes to safely cross, connecting the Cleveland Park and McFerrin Park neighborhoods in East Nashville to the future site.
"It's going to be really critical for that access to be safe and done correctly," said TDOT spokesperson Rebekah Hammonds. "It's a huge development for Nashville, which of course in turn we know how Nashville can impact the region. So there are going to be a lot of people trying to get in and out of that development. If we don't protect citizens' safety while trying to cross the interstate, we're going to have a lot of problems on our hands."
It's one of 22 projects the governor has prioritized statewide in the one-time appropriation in his budget totaling more than $626 million.
Half of the projects on the list are located in Middle Tennessee.
Others include Interstate 40 in Bellevue, where the plan calls for widening the interstate near McCrory Lane from two to three lanes in each direction. Crews would also replace the bridge over McCrory Lane.
"That's such a busy area and the fact that the interstate is only two lanes – three lanes is going to be a massive improvement," said Hammonds.
In Rutherford County, the I-24 Epps Mill Road interchange would get extensions for the ramps, new signals and a slight shift in the roadway.
In Gallatin, on Vietnam Veterans Boulevard (386), crews would widen the highway to three lanes in each direction near Hwy 109. The plan also calls for making the Long Hollow Pike intersection a full, highway interchange.
Several rural interchanges along I-40 would get an upgrade, with crews widening the roads leading to the interstate, re-working the interchange and allowing for more traffic flow, including:
I-40 at SR 56 in Putnam County
I-40 at SR 48 in Dickson County
I-40 at SR50 in Hickman County
I-40 at SR 13 in Humphreys County
I-40 at SR 69 in Decatur County
"A lot of times a developer or businesses will approach a county or city and say we want to put this in, but this interchange or state route might not support the traffic volume we would bring in, Hammonds said. "A lot of times there needs to be an access road or widening job or interchange improvement in order to facilitate and handle that growth."
If the budget that includes the funding is approved, it could still take several years for the projects to get underway.
The Bucker/June Lake Blvd interchange in Spring Hill is scheduled to be ready by April 2023. Pretty aggressive timeline if you ask me, but good to see this critically needed project moving forward with urgency. Buckner Lane won't be finished by then though.
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I predict more accidents and worse traffic congestion. This will just be worse off than the status quo.
Installation of Vanderbilt, TDOT 'I-24 MOTION' cameras nears completion
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/instillation-of-vanderbilt-tdot-i-24-motion-cameras-nears-completion
The completion of I-840 from I-40 to I-24 has been a godsend. Although I did get to check out some communities between the two ends before completion, such as Leiper's Fork and Franklin.
Quote from: Road Hog on July 27, 2022, 10:37:03 PM
The completion of I-840 from I-40 to I-24 has been a godsend. Although I did get to check out some communities between the two ends before completion, such as Leiper's Fork and Franklin.
I wish they would extend I-840 up to I-65 north to the Kentucky state line or farther north
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Quote from: ibthebigd on September 21, 2022, 05:18:58 AM
Quote from: Road Hog on July 27, 2022, 10:37:03 PM
The completion of I-840 from I-40 to I-24 has been a godsend. Although I did get to check out some communities between the two ends before completion, such as Leiper's Fork and Franklin.
I wish they would extend I-840 up to I-65 north to the Kentucky state line or farther north
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This has been discussed so many times just like beating a dead horse.
Quote from: wriddle082 on February 12, 2022, 08:57:53 AM
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/on-the-rise/one-time-fund-would-widen-roads-improve-major-interchanges-in-tennessee
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One-time fund would widen roads, improve major interchanges
Gov. Lee prioritizes 22 TDOT projects, with half in Middle Tenn.
It was the biggest job announcement in state history.
With Oracle's pledge to bring 8,500 jobs to Nashville and make a $1.2 billion investment in the River North development, Gov. Bill Lee has prioritized a major road project to accommodate the plan.
In a list of 22 projects just released, he's appropriating $40 million for the Oracle project. The plan calls for the Tennessee Department of Transportation to raise Interstate 24, creating an underpass, extending Cleveland St below the interstate to reach River North. The road currently dead-ends at Dickerson Road.
The plan also calls for a pedestrian tunnel from Grace Street under the interstate to allow people and bikes to safely cross, connecting the Cleveland Park and McFerrin Park neighborhoods in East Nashville to the future site.
"It's going to be really critical for that access to be safe and done correctly," said TDOT spokesperson Rebekah Hammonds. "It's a huge development for Nashville, which of course in turn we know how Nashville can impact the region. So there are going to be a lot of people trying to get in and out of that development. If we don't protect citizens' safety while trying to cross the interstate, we're going to have a lot of problems on our hands."
It's one of 22 projects the governor has prioritized statewide in the one-time appropriation in his budget totaling more than $626 million.
Half of the projects on the list are located in Middle Tennessee.
Others include Interstate 40 in Bellevue, where the plan calls for widening the interstate near McCrory Lane from two to three lanes in each direction. Crews would also replace the bridge over McCrory Lane.
"That's such a busy area and the fact that the interstate is only two lanes – three lanes is going to be a massive improvement," said Hammonds.
In Rutherford County, the I-24 Epps Mill Road interchange would get extensions for the ramps, new signals and a slight shift in the roadway.
In Gallatin, on Vietnam Veterans Boulevard (386), crews would widen the highway to three lanes in each direction near Hwy 109. The plan also calls for making the Long Hollow Pike intersection a full, highway interchange.
Several rural interchanges along I-40 would get an upgrade, with crews widening the roads leading to the interstate, re-working the interchange and allowing for more traffic flow, including:
I-40 at SR 56 in Putnam County
I-40 at SR 48 in Dickson County
I-40 at SR50 in Hickman County
I-40 at SR 13 in Humphreys County
I-40 at SR 69 in Decatur County
"A lot of times a developer or businesses will approach a county or city and say we want to put this in, but this interchange or state route might not support the traffic volume we would bring in, Hammonds said. "A lot of times there needs to be an access road or widening job or interchange improvement in order to facilitate and handle that growth."
If the budget that includes the funding is approved, it could still take several years for the projects to get underway.
the SR-48 Interchange does need improvement, loves on that exit is a major draw for truckers on that exit. ive visited it back when i did doordash in that area a few times, even stayed briefly during a snowstorm.
Quote from: Chrysler375Freeway on November 04, 2021, 11:25:55 PM
Does anyone here (other than me) think it's time to upgrade Nashville's infrastructure considering it's getting crowded and traffic is increasing? And how should it be upgraded? What can be done to upgrade the infrastructure of the Nashville area as a whole to handle the population increases?
So to keep the protestors at bay. I have moved this to the top
I will add one thing. As badly as Nashville needs the upgrades, Memphis is probably more needy.
Quote from: bwana39 on November 21, 2022, 12:28:22 PM
Quote from: Chrysler375Freeway on November 04, 2021, 11:25:55 PM
Does anyone here (other than me) think it's time to upgrade Nashville's infrastructure considering it's getting crowded and traffic is increasing? And how should it be upgraded? What can be done to upgrade the infrastructure of the Nashville area as a whole to handle the population increases?
So to keep the protestors at bay. I have moved this to the top
I will add one thing. As badly as Nashville needs the upgrades, Memphis is probably more needy.
No, the folks that moved in knew what the infrastructure was. They want to come in and not pay additional impact fees, so no we should not pay for upgrades, notwithstanding safety upgrades and maintenance.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on November 22, 2022, 03:38:31 AM
Quote from: bwana39 on November 21, 2022, 12:28:22 PM
Quote from: Chrysler375Freeway on November 04, 2021, 11:25:55 PM
Does anyone here (other than me) think it's time to upgrade Nashville's infrastructure considering it's getting crowded and traffic is increasing? And how should it be upgraded? What can be done to upgrade the infrastructure of the Nashville area as a whole to handle the population increases?
So to keep the protestors at bay. I have moved this to the top
I will add one thing. As badly as Nashville needs the upgrades, Memphis is probably more needy.
No, the folks that moved in knew what the infrastructure was. They want to come in and not pay additional impact fees, so no we should not pay for upgrades, notwithstanding safety upgrades and maintenance.
i think thats basically everywhere.
the problem is until satellite toll pricing is a thing, counties and states have to learn to increase gas taxes yearly, not every decade or 4. gas taxes have to be raised based on the demands of the state, which can change from year to year. still tho, i think its because people enjoy lower gas taxes so they think its okay to complain to the locals. states and counties have to organize a way to increase yearly without pissing off the majority.
Does the sign in the background here at the Nashville Int'l Airport have an error US 255 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1332481,-86.665051,3a,15y,280.37h,90.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYMeFZnFyuZR-BlNweyNImQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)?
Yes. I've seen close-ups of it.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 29, 2024, 03:22:08 PMDoes the sign in the background here at the Nashville Int'l Airport have an error US 255 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1332481,-86.665051,3a,15y,280.37h,90.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYMeFZnFyuZR-BlNweyNImQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)?
There's 2-3 of them as you leave the parking/rental car garage of Nashville International Airport.
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