3.5 mile boulevard to link I-490 to University Circle
4-5 lane, $331 million project receives FHA approval
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/05/opportunity_corridor_gets_fede.html (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/05/opportunity_corridor_gets_fede.html)
I've seen worse ideas, I guess. If the point was just to get suburbanites to Case, the Clinic, and museums faster, they should have just said so. The rhetoric of economic revitalization via road construction in an area that is so far gone is comical at best and horribly disingenuous at worst.
When the road opens, they're not literally going to call it "The Opportunity Corridor," are they? Being an intra-city route, it probably won't get a number.
Quote from: ysuindy on June 02, 2014, 10:54:24 PM
4-5 lane, $331 million project receives FHA approval
Since when does the Federal Housing Administration approve roads?
Wouldn't be the first time someone used FHA to refer to Federal Highway...
Quote from: exit10 on June 03, 2014, 12:29:53 AM
I've seen worse ideas, I guess. If the point was just to get suburbanites to Case, the Clinic, and museums faster, they should have just said so. The rhetoric of economic revitalization via road construction in an area that is so far gone is comical at best and horribly disingenuous at worst.
When the road opens, they're not literally going to call it "The Opportunity Corridor," are they? Being an intra-city route, it probably won't get a number.
Knowing Cleveland, the new road will ultimately be limited to a very low speed limit with speed &/or red light cameras at every other intersection...That's where the "Opportunity Corridor" name kicks in!
Quote from: thenetwork on June 03, 2014, 12:02:17 PM
Quote from: exit10 on June 03, 2014, 12:29:53 AM
I've seen worse ideas, I guess. If the point was just to get suburbanites to Case, the Clinic, and museums faster, they should have just said so. The rhetoric of economic revitalization via road construction in an area that is so far gone is comical at best and horribly disingenuous at worst.
When the road opens, they're not literally going to call it "The Opportunity Corridor," are they? Being an intra-city route, it probably won't get a number.
Knowing Cleveland, the new road will ultimately be limited to a very low speed limit with speed &/or red light cameras at every other intersection...That's where the "Opportunity Corridor" name kicks in!
Their opportunity...to fleece you.
Quote from: exit10 on June 03, 2014, 12:29:53 AM
When the road opens, they're not literally going to call it "The Opportunity Corridor," are they? Being an intra-city route, it probably won't get a number.
It would be nice if ODOT moved SR-87's alignment onto the OC between Buckeye Road and the I-77/I-490 stack, if only for the sake of guiding unfamiliar motorists the quickest way from just south and west of downtown to University Circle, Shaker Heights and points east (and avoiding most of the ghetto of the near-east side). There is really no sense in having SR-87 in a triple-plex along Woodland/Orange Avenue with US-422 and SR-8 all the way to Public Square. In fact, it was only about 10 years ago when ODOT finally re-recognized and re-signed SR-87 along the 422/8 duplex (while at the same time, replacing the last of the old cut-out shields in the Cleveland area).
Quote from: thenetwork on June 03, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
It would be nice if ODOT moved SR-87's alignment onto the OC between Buckeye Road and the I-77/I-490 stack
Or better yet, why not make the whole thing US 322? But your point stands about WAY too many routes ending at Public Square.
Quote from: exit10 on June 06, 2014, 12:20:34 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on June 03, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
It would be nice if ODOT moved SR-87's alignment onto the OC between Buckeye Road and the I-77/I-490 stack
Or better yet, why not make the whole thing US 322? But your point stands about WAY too many routes ending at Public Square.
And the majority of the routes which run south and east of Public Square past the Innerbelt either don't have direct, convenient access to the Innerbelt or are not even signed on the interstate for the convenience of drivers.
Here's a video on this ODOT posted this week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LwzkELlDuI
There are 3 sections for this project:
Section 1 involves work on the existing E. 105th Street, and should be done later this year
Section 2 is a short section of the new corridor, and is scheduled to be done by the end of next year.
Section 3 is the rest of the new corridor and is scheduled to start construction later this year and be done in 2020.
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/projects/ClevelandUrbanCoreProjects/OpportunityCorridor/NewsandInformation/Pages/Construction-Sections.aspx
This project has interested me, though I disagree with making it part of SR 10. For continuity sake, I'd number the roadway SR 490.
Ohio doesn't do state route numbers that are already taken by interstates or US routes
Wisconsin doesn't either, except for Interstate/WIS 794. I guess if I wanted Interstate/State Highway combos, I'd go to New York.
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on March 09, 2017, 05:06:14 PM
Wisconsin doesn't either, except for Interstate/WIS 794. I guess if I wanted Interstate/State Highway combos, I'd go to New York.
Well almost there still is WI-39 which I wish they would renumber. Missouri was also that way as well but it looks like MO-49 is staying after I-49 came in.
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on March 08, 2017, 03:28:49 PM
This project has interested me, though I disagree with making it part of SR 10. For continuity sake, I'd number the roadway SR 490.
SR 10 joins the list of completely non-intuitive urban route alignments that Ohio seemingly loves so dearly.
Does this mean that I-490 would be officially truncated to I-77? Wouldn't be much of an issue, given that I-490 ENDS signs appear prior to I-77 as it is now.
A map from a presentation showed 10 being extended down Orange, merging onto 77 then exiting where one exits for 55th Street, then 490 being extended past 55th to where 10 merges in, probably depending on what configuration the Corridor/55th interchange requires (it won't be the existing signal but an interchange, either with braided ramps, the access from 77 being part of a split diamond shared with 55th, or who knows. So 490 may actually gain a little distance if 10 is involved, so everything has a number.
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 12, 2017, 09:26:47 PM
probably depending on what configuration the Corridor/55th interchange requires (it won't be the existing signal but an interchange, either with braided ramps, the access from 77 being part of a split diamond shared with 55th, or who knows.
Where are you seeing that? In the animation video above and the current project overview and construction pages, the connection from E. 55th to the Corridor/490 is just a single 2-way curved connection road with signals at both ends.
and here's another video they made showing a traffic simulation there
(though I will point out that this was made 5 years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk9Io8q_58w
The single connector roadway is much simpler than any of the original interchange alternatives (braided, adapted split diamond, "parkway interchange") that were in a late 2013 presentation, but the single connector roadway does appear in the map/schematic that shows 490 being extended to the connector roadway intersection with 10 being extended the length of the Corridor. Who knows if they will pursue the SR 10 designation in the end, although it would be reasonable if it is to be intended to reroute traffic that would use 55th and Cedar or something before.
So how far will SR-10 officially be extended to? University Circle area US-20/US-322? or will they consider extending SR-10 further north via E. 105th St or MLK Boulevard up to the I-90/East Shoreway area?
As a former Clevelander who found it easy to get confused with getting from one street to another in the University Circle area (due to several one-way arterial roads and quick street changes), it would make sense to have SR-10 become a signed "loop" or "belt route" connecting the Shoreway/I-90 to I-490 via University Circle.
The problem you have there now is that, say (for example) if you are at the mega-size Cleveland Clinic facility near the Circle and are trying to access one of Cleveland's freeways: If you wrongly take one of the 3 most-popular paralleling East-West streets (Carnegie, Euclid, Chester), you may totally miss the correct freeway & direction you want to reach once you get into Downtown as not all 3 have direct connections to on-ramps. Once the SR-10/University Corridor is finished it will make things easier as well as provide a bypass for Downtown.
But as for the 3 popular North-South streets which come out of the U. Circle area (E. 105, MLK Blvd., East Blvd.), only one truly has a direct connection to I-90/East Shoreway -- but for cars only (MLK/No Trucks). Trucks and other large vehicles must use E. 105 and then find connecting roads to reach the I-90 on-ramps somewhere while East Blvd ends up winding through the 'hood. Maybe by extending SR-10 up E.105 to Eddy Road or E.72 via St. Clair could make for a clearer route into & through University Circle for unfamiliar travelers in that part of town. It would be nice to have a signed North-South route in that neck of the woods.
Or designate a totally different North-South state route number (or relocate/re-align SR-8) that would connect I-90 to the US-422/SR-87 Shaker Square area via University Circle. That's another area between 2 points that is very easy to get lost in if you don't know the right combo of streets to take. This whole area is one that if you go one or two blocks off the main roads you are in no-man's land.
Drove the construction zone on E. 105th today, where they are currently doing some heavy work starting just south of Chester Ave (the southbound lanes are totally dug up for a complete rebuild.) A little further south there are a few blocks of E. 105th that look mostly done, with new curbs and turn lanes in place, and then the last few short blocks of section 1 have some work still going on the.
The one part of section 2 that includes part of existing E. 105th will be a replacement of the current bridge over the RTA Red Line/Norfolk Southern, and so far nothing has started on that. Though other section 2 work is visibly underway, as grading on the new corridor can be seen extending off to the southwest from the end of E. 105th at Quincy Ave.
I didn't drive past much of the section 3 corridor, though on the little bits I did cross on E. 93rd and Woodland Ave there were properties that had been cleared. Work is due to start on section 3 this summer.
I guess this is an update on the "Opportunity Corridor"
when-will-the-opportunity-corr.htm
https://www.cleveland.com/expo/news/erry-2018/08/65be6088e17698/when-will-the-opportunity-corr.html
Hopefully adding a L will make the link work now
I'm getting a 404 message on that link
Quote from: Buck87 on September 07, 2018, 02:04:33 PM
I'm getting a 404 message on that link
I found the updated link: https://www.cleveland.com/expo/news/erry-2018/08/65be6088e17698/when-will-the-opportunity-corr.html
so with this be SR 490 when finished?
Quote from: silverback1065 on September 08, 2018, 10:54:53 PM
so with this be SR 490 when finished?
Actually, the plan is to extend the eastern terminus of SR-10 at the corner of Ontario and Carnegie (more or less home plate at Jacob....er Progressive Field) onto I-77 South to the I-490 interchange then heading onto the OP. I assume I-490 would "officially" end at I-77 then and SR-10 replaces what was I-490 east of I-77 and (my guess) would then terminate at Chester Ave./US-322.
I feel like it should be routed onto 90 where 10 and 90 cross, then follow it all the way to 77 via 490 and continuing east up the op
I was in Cleveland today and took these pics...
From Quincy Ave looking north:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181017/1f840ff3df2d3e6c41014ac850974b66.jpg)
From Quincy Ave looking south:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181017/d083ae543b101ae1464690e711432b65.jpg)
From 93rd St looking east
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181017/4d5e0287edeb00c14e1198450247ea1a.jpg)
From 93rd St looking west
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181017/601cea2a56171e45159f83c437df7f10.jpg)
VS988
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D12/Deputy%20Director/News/Pages/Opportunity-Corridor-I-490-planned-closure-between-East-55th-Street-and-I-77.aspx
CLEVELAND (Tuesday, December 4, 2018) - Starting May 29, 2019 construction crews working on Section 3 of the Opportunity Corridor Project (OC3) will be closing I-490 between East 55th Street and I-77 for approximately two years. Traffic will be detoured via Woodland or Carnegie avenues to access East 55th Street. Specific detours are as follows:
I-77 northbound detour to East 55th Street northbound:
Exit at East 22nd Street/East 14th Street
Keep left onto East 14th Street
Keep right onto East 18th Street
Turn right on Carnegie Avenue to East 55th Street
I-77 northbound detour to East 55th Street southbound:
Exit at Woodland Avenue/East 30th Street
Keep right onto Woodland Avenue to East 55th Street
I-77 southbound detour to East 55th Street:
Exit at Woodland Avenue/East 30th Street
Keep left onto Woodland Avenue to East 55th Street
East 55th Street detour to I-490 westbound:
West on Woodland Ave to East 30th Street
Keep left and merge onto Orange Avenue
Keep right, merge onto I-77 southbound
Prior to the I-490 closure, temporary pavement will be installed to allow northbound and southbound traffic to continue on East 55th Street between approximately Bower and Francis avenues. Commuters should follow detour signage visible along the construction areas and are urged to use caution in the work zones.
Work during this two-year closure will include:
Demolition of existing buildings, bridges and tree removal
Reconstruction of the existing streets and intersections along the new boulevard
Major underground work including sanitary sewers, waterlines, drainage and utility services
Construction of new bridges and retaining walls
The OC3 design-build project will ultimately connect I-490/I-77 to E. 93rd Street, where Section 2 leaves off. OC3 construction highlights will include two new pedestrian bridges, four new bridges located over the boulevard, six signalized intersections, new water mains, new major sanitary and storm sewers, along with tree lawns, sidewalks and a shared-use path.
"ODOT and the city of Cleveland are excited to see the benefits outside of transportation the Opportunity Corridor project will bring and have already brought this part of Cleveland. This effort opens the potential for new economic development, new jobs and a new identify for the community," said ODOT District 12 Deputy Director Myron Pakush.
To date, the Opportunity Corridor project milestones include the completion of Section 1 with the widening of the existing East 105th Street between Quebec and Chester avenues. Section 2 opened to traffic late-November 2018 and features a new roadway between East 93rd Street and Quebec Avenue including the new East 105th Street Bridge that passes over Norfolk Southern Railroad and the newly expanded Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority station platform.
Kokosing Construction Company, Inc. was awarded the design-build contract on the third and final section of the Opportunity Corridor with a bid amount of $150,858,250.
The purpose of the Opportunity Corridor Project is to improve transportation and economic development in the historically underserved part of Cleveland known as the "Forgotten Triangle" located within the City of Cleveland, between I-490/I-77 and University Circle. The three-mile boulevard will provide improved access to and through the communities of Slavic Village, Central, Kinsman, Buckeye-Shaker, and Fairfax. The Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT) District 12 is leading the project in partnership with the City of Cleveland.
In other words, I-490 will be officially truncated to I-77 at that time. The shortest interstate in Cleveland gets even shorter.
I drove the part that's now open between Quincy and E. 93rd yesterday, which was a rather quick drive. It just ends at 93rd, with no construction activity going on there currently. Though at the E. 55th/I-490 I could see what looked like demo and land clearing underway on the the east side of the intersection.
Quote from: Buck87 on April 11, 2019, 10:46:28 PM
I drove the part that's now open between Quincy and E. 93rd yesterday, which was a rather quick drive. It just ends at 93rd, with no construction activity going on there currently. Though at the E. 55th/I-490 I could see what looked like demo and land clearing underway on the the east side of the intersection.
What is the name of this new road?
Just for shits and giggles, I'd name the entire Opportunity Corridor the Lebron James Opportunity Corridor.
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 11, 2019, 11:22:12 PM
What is the name of this new road?
Ah, sorry, I didn't look to see what they had on the sign blade.
Hopefully a better name is chosen for this road. Right now, it's just "Opportunity Corridor."
https://twitter.com/NickCastele/status/1068216911467560961
Any marketing major worth his or her salt could come up with a good campaign based on something as simple as 'OH 490' (which, IMHO, this road should be called).
Mike
Ohio does not do state route numbers that are already taken by an Interstate or US Route
This is an example of a perfect place to do so, just like New York does for non-Interstate-grade extensions of Interstates. Makes a lot of sense vs. changing numbers.
OH 420 could just as well be OH 280 for continuity, for another example.
Quote from: PurdueBill on April 14, 2019, 06:15:40 PM
This is an example of a perfect place to do so, just like New York does for non-Interstate-grade extensions of Interstates. Makes a lot of sense vs. changing numbers.
OH 420 could just as well be OH 280 for continuity, for another example.
Ditto I-794/WI 794 here in Wisconsin.
Mike
This will be signed as Ohio Route 10 once it is complete.
I'm assuming this means OH 10 will get on Interstate 90 at Exit 167B, and be co-designated with 90 (and 490) to Interstate 77. Will existing OH 10 along the surface streets be turned back to local control?
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 15, 2019, 03:04:16 PM
I'm assuming this means OH 10 will get on Interstate 90 at Exit 167B, and be co-designated with 90 (and 490) to Interstate 77. Will existing OH 10 along the surface streets be turned back to local control?
I believe that SR-10 will remain on Lorain Avenue, over the Hope Bridge to its current terminus with Ontario St. From there, SR-10 will enter the start of I-77 South (Either via Ontario and Orange or via E. 9th St.) and exit at I-490.
Although by taking SR-10 off surface streets at I-90 and West Blvd. and multiplexing with I-90 and I-490 to E. 55th St. would certainly simplify using SR-10 cross-town for drivers.
If you all would just go back to page 1 for this thread, you'll see the same people making the same arguments 2 & 5 years ago. :pan: :ded:
Literally verbatim in some cases. :P But to be fair, this damned road just drags on and on and on.....
And seriously, while Ohio doesn't use numbers for state and Interstate/US routes, why not? It makes sense here. Making OH 10 run all over the place is silly. Who would actually follow OH 10 as it will eventually run?
As a former Clevelander who used to travel from the southwest side to University Circle often, the SR 10 designation seems odd (even if its ending at Carnegie/Ontario always seemed a tad awkward and undersigned as well). My proposal would be to reroute US 322 from University Circle to terminate at I-77/I-490 and reroute US 20 onto current US 322/Chester Blvd to rejoin Euclid at University Circle. The reworking of 20's current route on Euclid from Public Square to University Circle with the bus rapid transit really ended Euclid's utility to serve a US route. This would rectify that by putting 20 on the fastest route to University Circle from Public Square while giving the Opportunity Corridor a US route number that befits its status as the new fastest route to University Circle.
322 shouldn't exist west of us 20
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 20, 2019, 10:18:52 AM
322 shouldn't exist west of us 20
Cleveland likes to have all the routes terminate at Public Square. Except for the major through routes like 2, 6, and 20.
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 20, 2019, 10:18:52 AM
322 shouldn't exist west of us 20
And I-74 shouldn't exist south of I-70.
US 24 shouldn't exist south of US 30.
Find something better to complain about.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on April 21, 2019, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 20, 2019, 10:18:52 AM
322 shouldn't exist west of us 20
And I-74 shouldn't exist south of I-70.
US 24 shouldn't exist south of US 30.
Find something better to complain about.
the hell are you talking about? 74 should connect Cincinnati and Indianapolis. and US 24 is a very important highway south of US 30. Find better examples and get back to me.
^ Instead of bantering back and forth, could you please explain why you don't think 322 should go west of 20?
Quote from: froggie on April 23, 2019, 08:45:13 AM
^ Instead of bantering back and forth, could you please explain why you don't think 322 should go west of 20?
It's Redundant
^ So is having U.S. routes closely paralleling Interstate routes, but I don't recall you complaining about that...
Quote from: froggie on April 26, 2019, 09:50:44 AM
^ So is having U.S. routes closely paralleling Interstate routes, but I don't recall you complaining about that...
false, those serve local traffic.
:eyebrow: Going back to the topic:
ODOT will close part of I-490 in Cleveland for 2 years (https://expo.cleveland.com/news/g66l-2019/04/000da435f39804/odot-will-close-part-of-i490-in-cleveland-for-2-years-learn-why-and-see-detours.html)
The easternmost portion of I-490, between I-77 and E. 55th Street, will close May 29 for two years.
Quote from: seicer on April 29, 2019, 10:12:30 AM
:eyebrow: Going back to the topic:
ODOT will close part of I-490 in Cleveland for 2 years (https://expo.cleveland.com/news/g66l-2019/04/000da435f39804/odot-will-close-part-of-i490-in-cleveland-for-2-years-learn-why-and-see-detours.html)
The easternmost portion of I-490, between I-77 and E. 55th Street, will close May 29 for two years.
While "part of 490 will close" from the headline is technically true, it's more like "the access ramps to/from E. 55th and I-77/I-490" will close.
Oh, and the comment section has been a fun read on that article.
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 28, 2019, 07:27:55 PM
Quote from: froggie on April 26, 2019, 09:50:44 AM
^ So is having U.S. routes closely paralleling Interstate routes, but I don't recall you complaining about that...
false, those serve local traffic.
Local traffic doesn't necessarily need a U.S. route (or really ANY route) to follow.
Quote from: froggie on April 29, 2019, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 28, 2019, 07:27:55 PM
Quote from: froggie on April 26, 2019, 09:50:44 AM
^ So is having U.S. routes closely paralleling Interstate routes, but I don't recall you complaining about that...
false, those serve local traffic.
Local traffic doesn't necessarily need a U.S. route (or really ANY route) to follow.
Bingo - in the years I lived in Cleveland and in other cities, you drove on Woodland or Buckeye or Euclid or Chester, not Route 87 or Route 8 or US 20 or US 322. The routes would be infrequently posted anyways, and you'd never use them for directions or for navigation. Heck, most navigation systems just spit out the street names, not route numbers, in the cities.
I think it's funny that while the Interstate ends in an at-grade intersection with East 55th Street, the replacement boulevard will actually go under East 55th, but at least there will be a connector between the two that will facilitate movement between them.
Drove down E. 55th today, which they currently have rerouted in a semicircle pattern going around the east side of the main construction area. If E 55th is going to stay open, I would assume the plan is to dig the trench from where E. 55th used to be towards 490, then build the new E. 55th bridge, then build the trench to the east (destroying the temporary road E. 55th is using now)
Almost one year later...
ODOT was originally going to have I-490/(future) Oh 10 reopened in Spring 2021. Now, that is being pushed back to the end of 2021.
https://www.freshwatercleveland.com/inthenews/Opportunity490Project112320.aspx
QuoteFollowing a review of the design plans, ODOT requested a change to the grade, or slope. where I-490/Opportunity Boulevard passes under E. 55th Street for safety reasons. The design-build team's plans met the minimum standards; however, ODOT preferred a more gradual slope.
This change added approximately six months of work and $4.6 million to the project. Additionally, unforeseen utility relocation delays have had an impact on the project schedule. The design and construction changes, and utility delays will not impact the overall completion of project in summer 2022.
I'm sure there is a press release about this somewhere on ODOT's webpage for the 'Cleveland Opportunity Corridor' but I have yet to find it.
Here's a narrated flyover view of the section 3 work from 4 month ago
https://youtu.be/HNpFaH0Lsjs
LM-Q620
The only portion of the Opportunity Corridor that is shown as complete on Google Maps is the segment from E. 93rd St. to the intersection of Quincy Ave. (and even then, only the imprint of the new roadway is shown): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4917806,-81.6154195,866m/data=!3m1!1e3. Hopefully, both the map and the satellite images will be updated to show the entire corridor.
Here are some recent drone photos around E. 55th St. And the former stub end of I-490:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=290521672428266&id=100044113059848&sfnsn=mo
Kind of wondering, is there any reason why one side of the Opportunity Corridor is 3 lanes and other side is 2 for a good length?
Here's the latest aerial footage update video from ODOT
https://youtu.be/Z-JPNdcQN2Q
VS988
"New" 3rd party drone video of the Opportunity Corridor construction.
I don't see things changing much between what is shown above with what we'll see come the end of August for the Cleveland meet.
The Opportunity Corridor is expected to open to traffic within the first two weeks of November
https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2021/10/roadway-for-opportunity-corridor-nearly-complete-expected-to-open-by-early-november.html
So, Cleveland & ODOT will be doing the "ribbon cutting" on Opportunity Corridor later today...
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/whats-going-on-with/opportunity-corridor-to-open-soon-connecting-i-490-to-east-105th-street
...but they won't be opening it to traffic until a later date (supposedly to be announced at the ribbon cutting)
I read somewhere that I-490 was once proposed to follow this same corridor and connect back to I-90 at 105th Street. At least there will be an extension of OH 10 along the corridor (and no freeway, either), and I hope ODOT has figured out a routing between the corridor and its current eastern terminus in downtown.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 03, 2021, 01:04:55 AM
So, Cleveland & ODOT will be doing the "ribbon cutting" on Opportunity Corridor later today...
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/whats-going-on-with/opportunity-corridor-to-open-soon-connecting-i-490-to-east-105th-street
...but they won't be opening it to traffic until a later date (supposedly to be announced at the ribbon cutting)
Yeah, I guess you are waiting for that announcement before bothering to post it on the Travel Mapping Forum. That seems to be the right move here.
Quote from: Henry on November 03, 2021, 10:37:10 AM
I read somewhere that I-490 was once proposed to follow this same corridor and connect back to I-90 at 105th Street. At least there will be an extension of OH 10 along the corridor (and no freeway, either), and I hope ODOT has figured out a routing between the corridor and its current eastern terminus in downtown.
If you are asking how they will route the SR‐10 extension between Ontario St. and the new corridor, it will be via one of two ways:
1) Right on Ontario St/Orange Avenue to East 9th/Broadway....multiplex with SR-14 along Broadway to I-490...then onto I-490 east toward East 55th st.
2) Again, right on Ontario/Orange toward E.9th/Broadway...however SR-10 would continue along Orange Ave (multiplexing with US-422/SR-8) to East 30th St. SR-10 would briefly enter I-77 to the I-490 interchange.
My money is via SR-14 / Broadway, since there will be less overhead BGS re-signing along the interstates and it will stay on surface streets until I-490.
BTW, here's a link to an article with a bunch of photos along the new corridor:
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/officials-hold-opportunity-corridor-ribbon-cutting-road-expected-to-open-by-end-of-next-week.html.
Quote from: thenetwork on November 03, 2021, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: Henry on November 03, 2021, 10:37:10 AM
I read somewhere that I-490 was once proposed to follow this same corridor and connect back to I-90 at 105th Street. At least there will be an extension of OH 10 along the corridor (and no freeway, either), and I hope ODOT has figured out a routing between the corridor and its current eastern terminus in downtown.
If you are asking how they will route the SR‐10 extension between Ontario St. and the new corridor, it will be via one of two ways:
1) Right on Ontario St/Orange Avenue to East 9th/Broadway....multiplex with SR-14 along Broadway to I-490...then onto I-490 east toward East 55th st.
2) Again, right on Ontario/Orange toward E.9th/Broadway...however SR-10 would continue along Orange Ave (multiplexing with US-422/SR-8) to East 30th St. SR-10 would briefly enter I-77 to the I-490 interchange.
My money is via SR-14 / Broadway, since there will be less overhead BGS re-signing along the interstates and it will stay on surface streets until I-490.
BTW, here's a link to an article with a bunch of photos along the new corridor:
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/officials-hold-opportunity-corridor-ribbon-cutting-road-expected-to-open-by-end-of-next-week.html.
Issue is that there aren't ramps from Broadway to/from EB I-490/Opportunity corridor.
(https://i.imgur.com/HuOLOlt.png)
I think OH 10 may be multiplexed with I-77.
Quote from: SkyPesos on November 03, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 03, 2021, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: Henry on November 03, 2021, 10:37:10 AM
I read somewhere that I-490 was once proposed to follow this same corridor and connect back to I-90 at 105th Street. At least there will be an extension of OH 10 along the corridor (and no freeway, either), and I hope ODOT has figured out a routing between the corridor and its current eastern terminus in downtown.
If you are asking how they will route the SR‐10 extension between Ontario St. and the new corridor, it will be via one of two ways:
1) Right on Ontario St/Orange Avenue to East 9th/Broadway....multiplex with SR-14 along Broadway to I-490...then onto I-490 east toward East 55th st.
2) Again, right on Ontario/Orange toward E.9th/Broadway...however SR-10 would continue along Orange Ave (multiplexing with US-422/SR-8) to East 30th St. SR-10 would briefly enter I-77 to the I-490 interchange.
My money is via SR-14 / Broadway, since there will be less overhead BGS re-signing along the interstates and it will stay on surface streets until I-490.
BTW, here's a link to an article with a bunch of photos along the new corridor:
https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/officials-hold-opportunity-corridor-ribbon-cutting-road-expected-to-open-by-end-of-next-week.html.
Issue is that there aren't ramps from Broadway to/from EB I-490/Opportunity corridor.
(https://i.imgur.com/HuOLOlt.png)
I think OH 10 may be multiplexed with I-77.
Thats what happens when you get old and hasn't really been to Cleveland since I moved away 15 years ago.
I Knew I -490 had a half diamond interchange with Broadway, but I thought it was the other way.
Yes, a short duplex with I-77 between E.30th/Woodland/Orange to I-490 it is!
BTW, any signs of new BGS along I-77/I-90 with room for, or a greenout for a SR-10 shield yet?
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 03, 2021, 11:42:30 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 03, 2021, 01:04:55 AM
So, Cleveland & ODOT will be doing the "ribbon cutting" on Opportunity Corridor later today...
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/whats-going-on-with/opportunity-corridor-to-open-soon-connecting-i-490-to-east-105th-street
...but they won't be opening it to traffic until a later date (supposedly to be announced at the ribbon cutting)
Yeah, I guess you are waiting for that announcement before bothering to post it on the Travel Mapping Forum. That seems to be the right move here.
You're mistaking me for Dave Schul, aka Mapcat. He is in charge of Ohio data for TM.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 03, 2021, 01:04:55 AM
So, Cleveland & ODOT will be doing the "ribbon cutting" on Opportunity Corridor later today...
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/whats-going-on-with/opportunity-corridor-to-open-soon-connecting-i-490-to-east-105th-street
...but they won't be opening it to traffic until a later date (supposedly to be announced at the ribbon cutting)
I guess the actual opening date will be next Friday (Nov. 12)
https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/11/03/ribbon-cutting-ceremony-held-clevelands-opportunity-corridor/
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 04, 2021, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 03, 2021, 11:42:30 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 03, 2021, 01:04:55 AM
So, Cleveland & ODOT will be doing the "ribbon cutting" on Opportunity Corridor later today...
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/whats-going-on-with/opportunity-corridor-to-open-soon-connecting-i-490-to-east-105th-street
...but they won't be opening it to traffic until a later date (supposedly to be announced at the ribbon cutting)
Yeah, I guess you are waiting for that announcement before bothering to post it on the Travel Mapping Forum. That seems to be the right move here.
You're mistaking me for Dave Schul, aka Mapcat. He is in charge of Ohio data for TM.
Right, but I thought you were osu-lsu there (as I am markkos1992 there). That was why I assumed that.
I do not think that mapcat actually has an account here from my personal interactions with him.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 04, 2021, 01:20:49 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 04, 2021, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 03, 2021, 11:42:30 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 03, 2021, 01:04:55 AM
So, Cleveland & ODOT will be doing the "ribbon cutting" on Opportunity Corridor later today...
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/whats-going-on-with/opportunity-corridor-to-open-soon-connecting-i-490-to-east-105th-street
...but they won't be opening it to traffic until a later date (supposedly to be announced at the ribbon cutting)
Yeah, I guess you are waiting for that announcement before bothering to post it on the Travel Mapping Forum. That seems to be the right move here.
You're mistaking me for Dave Schul, aka Mapcat. He is in charge of Ohio data for TM.
Right, but I thought you were osu-lsu there (as I am markkos1992 there). That was why I assumed that.
I do not think that mapcat actually has an account here from my personal interactions with him.
Yes, I go by osu-lsu on TM (my original moniker on here was osu-lsu as well, back when we could change names at will).
The Opportunity Corridor officially opened Friday after rush hour.
More photos: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/opportunity-corridor-boulevard-officially-opens-in-cleveland.html
Looking at some of the photos, I'm sort of disappointed that ODOT has treated the SR‐10 extention signing like the red-headed stepchild. They had more than enough time to properly sign the extension on the BGSs.
And that first photo ‐- Makes it look like its called the "Toledo Opportunity Corridor".
I see myself wishing that there was a photo directly from the eastern end to prove that OH 10 now extends to US 322.
Quote from: thenetwork on November 13, 2021, 03:28:26 PM
The Opportunity Corridor officially opened Friday after rush hour.
More photos: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/opportunity-corridor-boulevard-officially-opens-in-cleveland.html
Looking at some of the photos, I'm sort of disappointed that ODOT has treated the SR‐10 extention signing like the red-headed stepchild. They had more than enough time to properly sign the extension on the BGSs.
And that first photo ‐- Makes it look like its called the "Toledo Opportunity Corridor".
The interstate signage, for the new road, leaves something to be desired. :eyebrow: :-( :verymad: :thumbdown:
Interesting seeing "490" in Series B font, instead of the Series C that ODOT used on new 3di shields for the past few years.
Is it even new signage? Or did they just slap "Opportunity Corridor" over "E 55th St"? Because this is soooo Ohio otherwise. Come down to southern Ohio where you'll see all sorts of signs just attached to other signs and be that way for decades.
Here's a video of the whole corridor:
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/take-a-virtual-drive-down-the-newly-opened-opportunity-corridor
Quote from: seicer on November 14, 2021, 09:42:21 AM
Is it even new signage? Or did they just slap "Opportunity Corridor" over "E 55th St"? Because this is soooo Ohio otherwise. Come down to southern Ohio where you'll see all sorts of signs just attached to other signs and be that way for decades.
The fact that doghouses are still used instead of FYAs on this brand new stretch of road is also "so Ohio".
Quote from: Buck87 on November 15, 2021, 07:31:53 PM
Here's a video of the whole corridor:
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/take-a-virtual-drive-down-the-newly-opened-opportunity-corridor
I am saddened that the video does not make it to US 20 and US 322.
Quote from: silverback1065 on April 25, 2019, 07:28:03 PM
Quote from: froggie on April 23, 2019, 08:45:13 AM
^ Instead of bantering back and forth, could you please explain why you don't think 322 should go west of 20?
It's Redundant
What about US 52 from Cincinnati to Charleston (South Carolina)? Is its existence southeast of Cincinnati justified due to a connection to a port city or is it redundant due to parts of it being paralleled by I-77?
Quote from: SkyPesos on November 15, 2021, 07:58:52 PM
Quote from: seicer on November 14, 2021, 09:42:21 AM
Is it even new signage? Or did they just slap "Opportunity Corridor" over "E 55th St"? Because this is soooo Ohio otherwise. Come down to southern Ohio where you'll see all sorts of signs just attached to other signs and be that way for decades.
The fact that doghouses are still used instead of FYAs on this brand new stretch of road is also "so Ohio".
More states should use doghouse signals for turning lanes, like Ohio.
The Opportunity Corridor is now on Google maps
LM-Q620
Quote from: thenetwork on November 13, 2021, 03:28:26 PM
The Opportunity Corridor officially opened Friday after rush hour.
More photos: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/opportunity-corridor-boulevard-officially-opens-in-cleveland.html
Looking at some of the photos, I'm sort of disappointed that ODOT has treated the SR‐10 extention signing like the red-headed stepchild. They had more than enough time to properly sign the extension on the BGSs.
And that first photo ‐- Makes it look like its called the "Toledo Opportunity Corridor".
I don't see the extension of OH-10 along the COC as being necessary or desirable. OH-10 is a local route between Downtown and the western suburbs, largely along Lorain Ave. That is where it belongs.
Connecting OH-10 to COC requires several turns and even a stretch along I-77. IMO, it would be better to have the COC take on OH-490, a state highway extension of the interstate number. A number of other states do similar, attaching a state number to an extension of an interstate that does not meet interstate requirements, even non-freeways. One that comes to mind is CA-110 along Gaffey St in San Pedro, CA.
Quote from: mrsman on December 28, 2021, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 13, 2021, 03:28:26 PM
The Opportunity Corridor officially opened Friday after rush hour.
More photos: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/opportunity-corridor-boulevard-officially-opens-in-cleveland.html
Looking at some of the photos, I'm sort of disappointed that ODOT has treated the SR‐10 extention signing like the red-headed stepchild. They had more than enough time to properly sign the extension on the BGSs.
And that first photo ‐- Makes it look like its called the "Toledo Opportunity Corridor".
I don't see the extension of OH-10 along the COC as being necessary or desirable. OH-10 is a local route between Downtown and the western suburbs, largely along Lorain Ave. That is where it belongs.
Connecting OH-10 to COC requires several turns and even a stretch along I-77. IMO, it would be better to have the COC take on OH-490, a state highway extension of the interstate number. A number of other states do similar, attaching a state number to an extension of an interstate that does not meet interstate requirements, even non-freeways. One that comes to mind is CA-110 along Gaffey St in San Pedro, CA.
i thought ODOT didn't maintain state routes in cities. Is that not true? :hmmm:
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 28, 2021, 01:04:41 PM
i thought ODOT didn't maintain state routes in cities. Is that not true? :hmmm:
They don't, but that doesn't mean that state routes and US routes aren't signed in municipalities to allow for wayfinding. Cleveland already maintains stretches of the SR 2 and SR 176 freeways.
Maybe the Opportunity Corridor should have remained unnumbered, or given a state highway designation not current being used.
Quote from: mrsman on December 28, 2021, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 13, 2021, 03:28:26 PM
The Opportunity Corridor officially opened Friday after rush hour.
More photos: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/opportunity-corridor-boulevard-officially-opens-in-cleveland.html
Looking at some of the photos, I'm sort of disappointed that ODOT has treated the SR‐10 extention signing like the red-headed stepchild. They had more than enough time to properly sign the extension on the BGSs.
And that first photo ‐- Makes it look like its called the "Toledo Opportunity Corridor".
I don't see the extension of OH-10 along the COC as being necessary or desirable. OH-10 is a local route between Downtown and the western suburbs, largely along Lorain Ave. That is where it belongs.
Connecting OH-10 to COC requires several turns and even a stretch along I-77. IMO, it would be better to have the COC take on OH-490, a state highway extension of the interstate number. A number of other states do similar, attaching a state number to an extension of an interstate that does not meet interstate requirements, even non-freeways. One that comes to mind is CA-110 along Gaffey St in San Pedro, CA.
1) Ohio does NOT duplicate highway numbers. If I-490 exists, then there will not be an Ohio 490. (in spite of all the US ohio route shields & Ohio us route shields we photograph as sign errors)
2) Opportunity Corridor was decided to have a route number because ODOT was involved with the road project. If was just a Cleveland, or Cuyahoga County, road project, maybe there would not have been a number designation.
3) All that said, I don't know why Oh 10 was chosen for this road instead of a new number or moving US 6, 20, or 322 over. Maybe there are some notes, or article, back on page 1 or 2 of this thread that will logically explain Oh 10's eastern extension.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 29, 2021, 01:36:37 AM
Quote from: mrsman on December 28, 2021, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 13, 2021, 03:28:26 PM
The Opportunity Corridor officially opened Friday after rush hour.
More photos: https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/11/opportunity-corridor-boulevard-officially-opens-in-cleveland.html
Looking at some of the photos, I'm sort of disappointed that ODOT has treated the SR‐10 extention signing like the red-headed stepchild. They had more than enough time to properly sign the extension on the BGSs.
And that first photo ‐- Makes it look like its called the "Toledo Opportunity Corridor".
I don't see the extension of OH-10 along the COC as being necessary or desirable. OH-10 is a local route between Downtown and the western suburbs, largely along Lorain Ave. That is where it belongs.
Connecting OH-10 to COC requires several turns and even a stretch along I-77. IMO, it would be better to have the COC take on OH-490, a state highway extension of the interstate number. A number of other states do similar, attaching a state number to an extension of an interstate that does not meet interstate requirements, even non-freeways. One that comes to mind is CA-110 along Gaffey St in San Pedro, CA.
1) Ohio does NOT duplicate highway numbers. If I-490 exists, then there will not be an Ohio 490. (in spite of all the US ohio route shields & Ohio us route shields we photograph as sign errors)
2) Opportunity Corridor was decided to have a route number because ODOT was involved with the road project. If was just a Cleveland, or Cuyahoga County, road project, maybe there would not have been a number designation.
3) All that said, I don't know why Oh 10 was chosen for this road instead of a new number or moving US 6, 20, or 322 over. Maybe there are some notes, or article, back on page 1 or 2 of this thread that will logically explain Oh 10's eastern extension.
so what is the official routing of 10 now once it hits 422?
Quoteso what is the official routing of 10 now once it hits 422?
US 422 EB to I-77 SB to I-490 EB then following the Opportunity Corridor and 105th St to US 322.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 29, 2021, 01:36:37 AM
3) All that said, I don't know why Oh 10 was chosen for this road instead of a new number or moving US 6, 20, or 322 over. Maybe there are some notes, or article, back on page 1 or 2 of this thread that will logically explain Oh 10's eastern extension.
I made the comment that routing US 322 from University Circle to I-77/I-490 would have been better. For some reason, Ohio likes to have its US routes in Cleveland terminate and/or pass through Public Square, hence the current US 42 and US 322 redundant concurrencies. Also, any change of a US route would require AASHTO approval.
Since they decided to use a State Route instead, OH 10 is the only state route that ended in downtown but NOT at Public Square, instead ending at Carnegie and Ontario. The route from there to the Opportunity Corridor is pretty straightforward-one turn on EB US 422/OH 8/OH 87/SB OH 21 and then straight ahead onto the I-77 South ramp where it multiplexes about a mile to the I-490 stack. Even though the routing crosses US 422/OH 8 and OH 87 again on the Opportunity Corridor, it basically functions as a bypass route to University Circle. I think the routing works and gives one semi-fast route from Ohio City to University Circle.
If you really want to get in the weeds, OH 10 was truncated by 15 miles on its west end in 1988 when the OH 20 freeway opened east of Oberlin. Growing up near there, OH 10 was my favorite state route as a kid and its redesignation in Lorain County was my first experience of a decomissioning/renumbering that I recall. I also wondered why OH 10 ended unglamorously on its east end at Ontario Street, and I spent lots of time back then creating fictional OH 10 extensions. Giving OH 10 an extra five miles on its east end is a compensation for that decommissioning, at least from the perspective of ten-year-old me.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 29, 2021, 09:26:56 AM
Quoteso what is the official routing of 10 now once it hits 422?
US 422 EB to I-77 SB to I-490 EB then following the Opportunity Corridor and 105th St to US 322.
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on December 28, 2021, 10:54:16 PM
Maybe the Opportunity Corridor should have remained unnumbered, or given a state highway designation not current being used.
I tend to agree. The route of OH-10 now seems convoluted.
A new highway number would be best. I offered a suggestion of OH-490 with the thought of linking I-490 and COC as one corridor with one number, albeit Interstate west of E. 55th and state route east of E 55th. But if that is not available or allowed then a brand new state highway number would be best.
I drove the Opportunity Corridor around 3:45 this afternoon in the westbound direction, which was quite a popular activity. Got stopped by almost all the lights and there were two places where traffic backed up from one light all the way back to the next intersection.
Nothing all that terrible, but definitely more traffic than I was expecting to see and more time than I was a expecting it to take. It should be noted that the westbound side of this road has two travel lanes the entire way, while the eastbound side has 3 lanes for about 2/3 of it. I guess they prioritized the on the way to work side over the on the way from work side when designing this.
As of June 23rd, OH 10 is now signed from both US 20 and US 322.
US 20 at OH 10: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217365984182084&set=pcb.10217365992702297
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217365964581594&set=pcb.10217365992702297
US 322 at OH 10: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217365974261836&set=pcb.10217365992702297
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217365984302087&set=pcb.10217365992702297