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Title: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on March 25, 2015, 11:36:46 AM
Ohio is in the slow process of converting US 33 to a full freeway from I-70 to the Lancaster bypass, a process consisting of several different projects that are in various stages of planning and funding. Some of this has been discussed previously in threads about other topics, so I'm starting this thread to keep future updates about this stretch of road under one roof. Here are some of the projects:

Carroll Interchange

This is the one project that is currently underway: http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/local/2015/03/07/carroll-interchange-construction/24568129/

Design map (pdf) (https://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D05/MajorProjects/CarrollInterchange/Documents/Revised%20ODOT%20Preferred%20Alternative%20(Alternative%203).pdf) - this will eliminate 2 at grade intersections and 1 traffic light, and build a new spread out interchange with new surface streets to access it.

Bixby Rd Interchange - Listed as TRAC tier 3, no funding yet, I haven't seen any drawings

Petzinger Rd Interchange - Several concepts drawn up as part of the larger Far East Freeway Study (http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/October%202013%20Public%20Meeting/fareastfreeway10242013stakeholderpresentation.pdf), haven't seen anything beyond that

Pickerington Rd Interchange - latest I saw on this was an article from 2013 (http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/canalwinchester/news/2013/07/29/route-33-pickerington-road-officials-want-odot-to-reconsider-interchange.html) that said Pickerington wants ODOT to build an interchange at Allen Rd instead

High St/Bowen Rd Overpass - I've seen it listed in some studies and articles, but not much other than that

Any further info or updates on any of these or any other potential work on this corridor?
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on March 25, 2015, 12:32:57 PM
The Carroll work caught me by surprise. This stretch is part of my daily (well 4 days a week) so I try to stay on top of things.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: 6a on March 26, 2015, 07:34:58 PM
Over the past couple weeks I've noticed survey work, and now staking in the area of 33 and 270/Hamilton. The staking is in the median up to about a half mile north of 270, and is especially evident around Hamilton. I've seen stakes on the exits to Hamilton as well, and the former golf range place had a building demolished. What's up here?
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on March 26, 2015, 09:34:53 PM
Over the past couple weeks I've noticed survey work, and now staking in the area of 33 and 270/Hamilton. The staking is in the median up to about a half mile north of 270, and is especially evident around Hamilton. I've seen stakes on the exits to Hamilton as well, and the former golf range place had a building demolished. What's up here?

Paving The Way's 2015 Glovebox Guide, just out this week, doesn't list any projects at that location, so it's certainly something minor. Maybe it's related to those sign replacement plans you posted in the other thread?
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on March 26, 2015, 10:19:56 PM
Over the past couple weeks I've noticed survey work, and now staking in the area of 33 and 270/Hamilton. The staking is in the median up to about a half mile north of 270, and is especially evident around Hamilton. I've seen stakes on the exits to Hamilton as well, and the former golf range place had a building demolished. What's up here?

Yeah that's been some serious survey work going on at 33 and 270. I see those guys a lot on my way to work. What I think goes on is that there's a lot of crashes involving the heavy 270E to 33E merge. The Armco in the 33 median has been replaced several times in the past year after suffering heavy damage.

The demo at the mini golf place is the old batting cages. It's been sitting like that for a long time. I don't think the guy who owns the place wants to pay to have the material hauled away is all.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on March 27, 2015, 12:16:03 AM
What I think goes on is that there's a lot of crashes involving the heavy 270N to 33E merge.

Fixed for you. (The "corner" of I-270 is at Alum Creek Dr.)
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on March 27, 2015, 08:42:39 AM
Oh, I always screw that up.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on March 29, 2015, 11:59:15 AM
Yeah, the only obvious corner is at 33/161 in Dublin.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on March 29, 2015, 04:52:23 PM
The Carroll work caught me by surprise. This stretch is part of my daily (well 4 days a week) so I try to stay on top of things.

That whole thing is an interesting design. I'm sure there will be some locals not thrilled at having to go so far to get to the other side of 33, though it looks like this was the best way of building an interchange without having to tear down a bunch of stuff.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: 6a on March 29, 2015, 05:39:43 PM
It reminds me of the SR 16/Cherry Valley design in some ways.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on March 29, 2015, 10:20:53 PM
The Carroll work caught me by surprise. This stretch is part of my daily (well 4 days a week) so I try to stay on top of things.

That whole thing is an interesting design. I'm sure there will be some locals not thrilled at having to go so far to get to the other side of 33, though it looks like this was the best way of building an interchange without having to tear down a bunch of stuff.

Yeah, the lack of a "Carrol Southern Connector" strikes me as odd and potentially inconvenient for a lot of local trips. I suppose it's not out of the question for Fairfield County to build it themselves at some point, as it wouldn't have to intersect US 33 or its ramps directly. I imagine such a road might start at Carroll Southern Road about ľ mile south of the I&O tracks, proceed east, northeast, and north, to end at Plum Road east of Bloom Carroll High School. It would go over both the railroad and US 33. But that's just my amateur opinion.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Henry on March 30, 2015, 01:06:55 PM
How long before they extend the freeway all the way to Athens? In between there and Lancaster, lots of at-grade intersections still exist.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on March 30, 2015, 01:17:16 PM
Petzinger Rd will likely stay partially at-grade, especially if the current plans are what is used.

The Carroll interchange is needed, but I don't like the lack of access. I'm surprised they didn't elevate or depress US 33 for a stretch to improve access for cross traffic.

Bixby Rd has been on the plans for years and I've seen all sorts of proposed configurations on various online mapping services.

At this point, it's pretty much expressway grade from I-70 to US 50 and mostly "restricted access" through I-77. Hey, they may as well dualize the super 2 section and call it I-73  :-D
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on March 30, 2015, 01:45:04 PM
Petzinger Rd will likely stay partially at-grade, especially if the current plans are what is used.

Which are what? Just curious since I can't find anything about this project more recent than the multiple concept link from 2013 I posted above (other than this article (http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/canalwinchester/news/2015/02/24/odot-outlines-plan-for-future-construction.html) which seams to be referencing the same thing)
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on March 30, 2015, 03:02:43 PM
Petzinger Rd will likely stay partially at-grade, especially if the current plans are what is used.

Which are what? Just curious since I can't find anything about this project more recent than the multiple concept link from 2013 I posted above (other than this article (http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/canalwinchester/news/2015/02/24/odot-outlines-plan-for-future-construction.html) which seams to be referencing the same thing)

The plans from District 6's Far East Freeway Study page
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on March 30, 2015, 04:23:47 PM
Ah, I see what you mean. They have the Option 4 plan from the 2013 far east study listed as the preferred alternative.

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger%20Option%204.pdf

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_1.jpg

The only part of that plan that's still at grade at Petzinger is traffic coming from the already arterial portion of 33 north of 70, which is no big deal IMO. The main movements of 70 to 33 and 33 to 70 are what get the upgrade. Looks like one little issue with that plan is that traffic coming off Petzinger to 33 west will no longer be able to access the loop ramp to 70 west, but at least that traffic can use the College Ave to Livingston portion of 33 to get on 70 at exit 103.

Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on April 02, 2015, 05:20:21 PM
From the 315 thread:
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/29/c12f0b8a7dd3400125642386bc616e79.jpg)

What the heck is there to do on 33 between Dublin and Bexley?  Possibly answering my own question, last night I saw enhanced mile markers at the intersection of Livingston & College, which is just weird.

Also: is the ramp from SB OH 257 to EB US 33 going to be called exit 0?
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: 6a on April 03, 2015, 04:59:02 PM
Looks like just work around the Twin Rivers area from what I can tell.

Yeah, those enhanced mile markers go all the way down College - I imagine it's a super-reassurance thing. Or a test. Either way, it's weird to just have them there and nowhere else on the U.S./ State Route system, especially if they're going balls out on numbering exits.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: PurdueBill on April 06, 2015, 12:09:02 AM
By enhanced mile markers, do we mean the blue ones with shield and 2/10 mileage?  If so, they are out there in Ohio in many places on US and state routes and have been for a while.  I've seen them on US 35, OH 8, US 422, OH 315 to name a few.  (315 even has a few odd-tenth ones.)  These predated exit numbering even.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on April 06, 2015, 05:06:37 AM
By enhanced mile markers, do we mean the blue ones with shield and 2/10 mileage?  If so, they are out there in Ohio in many places on US and state routes and have been for a while.  I've seen them on US 35, OH 8, US 422, OH 315 to name a few.  (315 even has a few odd-tenth ones.)  These predated exit numbering even.

Yes but I'm pretty sure putting them on conventional surface streets is new.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: 6a on April 06, 2015, 04:47:23 PM

By enhanced mile markers, do we mean the blue ones with shield and 2/10 mileage?  If so, they are out there in Ohio in many places on US and state routes and have been for a while.  I've seen them on US 35, OH 8, US 422, OH 315 to name a few.  (315 even has a few odd-tenth ones.)  These predated exit numbering even.

Yes but I'm pretty sure putting them on conventional surface streets is new.

Yeah, this is the one vtk's referring to - they go down College as well, joining up with the freeway portion. I've not seen them in that setting anywhere else.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/06/7d498b29ec95d278786ddae589e25cd3.jpg)
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: PurdueBill on April 06, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
How very Massachusetts of them.  Mass has been putting 2/10 mile markers on surface state routes for a while as well as limited access ones.  Seems like overkill maybe, but they must have their reasons.
I could see a rule that if some part of the route is limited access, the whole route gets the markers.  Otherwise it's on and off and on.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: tdindy88 on April 06, 2015, 08:09:17 PM
Evansville, Indiana has mile markers along surface streets as well, but I've never seen them in Ohio. I've driven that stretch of 33 a few times from Columbus to Lancaster before. I suppose there hasn't been anything about actual exit numbers along that highway down past Logan, Nelsonville and Athens has there? I know there are exit numbers in Nelsonville BTW.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on April 06, 2015, 10:50:52 PM

By enhanced mile markers, do we mean the blue ones with shield and 2/10 mileage?  If so, they are out there in Ohio in many places on US and state routes and have been for a while.  I've seen them on US 35, OH 8, US 422, OH 315 to name a few.  (315 even has a few odd-tenth ones.)  These predated exit numbering even.

Yes but I'm pretty sure putting them on conventional surface streets is new.

Yeah, this is the one vtk's referring to - they go down College as well, joining up with the freeway portion. I've not seen them in that setting anywhere else.

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I didn't know that stretch was even state-maintained. Thought Livingston, Main, and Broad were entirely local maintenance.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on April 07, 2015, 01:36:26 AM

By enhanced mile markers, do we mean the blue ones with shield and 2/10 mileage?  If so, they are out there in Ohio in many places on US and state routes and have been for a while.  I've seen them on US 35, OH 8, US 422, OH 315 to name a few.  (315 even has a few odd-tenth ones.)  These predated exit numbering even.

Yes but I'm pretty sure putting them on conventional surface streets is new.

Yeah, this is the one vtk's referring to - they go down College as well, joining up with the freeway portion. I've not seen them in that setting anywhere else.

[image removeed]

I didn't know that stretch was even state-maintained. Thought Livingston, Main, and Broad were entirely local maintenance.

As I understand it, that should be local maintenance. But that doesn't mean ODOT can't erect signs in cooperation with the local jurisdictions.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: tdindy88 on April 07, 2015, 03:13:23 AM
Wish Indiana could do that.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: PurdueBill on April 20, 2015, 05:21:19 PM

By enhanced mile markers, do we mean the blue ones with shield and 2/10 mileage?  If so, they are out there in Ohio in many places on US and state routes and have been for a while.  I've seen them on US 35, OH 8, US 422, OH 315 to name a few.  (315 even has a few odd-tenth ones.)  These predated exit numbering even.

Yes but I'm pretty sure putting them on conventional surface streets is new.

Yeah, this is the one vtk's referring to - they go down College as well, joining up with the freeway portion. I've not seen them in that setting anywhere else.

[image removeed]

I didn't know that stretch was even state-maintained. Thought Livingston, Main, and Broad were entirely local maintenance.

As I understand it, that should be local maintenance. But that doesn't mean ODOT can't erect signs in cooperation with the local jurisdictions.

ODOT in Region 4 did go on a kick a couple years ago placing the small white mile markers that reset at county lines on non-state-maintained sections of numbered routes.  All the routes (18, 261, 59, 91, 241, etc.) passing through Akron, Fairlawn, Cuyahoga Falls, etc. got them.  (Some nearly instantly became bases for other signs--for example, AKTE right away used the u-channel post for OH 18 mile marker 6 to attach another sign post to so now the mile marker isn't visible correctly in both directions. 

Now indeed, I wonder why INDOT can't be allowed to reach some understanding where state route numbers can be blazed over city streets with city maintenance.  It would beat the crap with routes like 25 and 26 randomly starting and ending.  (Although the reaction of some to the West Lafayette State Street stuff included comments like "now that we're free of the state on this, we can do what we want at last!" makes me think that maybe enough people don't WANT the routes continuous...)
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on December 28, 2015, 08:34:48 PM
Any update on the Carroll interchange? I can't seem to find much about what progress has been made since the project got underway in the spring.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on January 11, 2016, 11:22:58 AM
I don't go that way for work as frequently as I used to, but as of the fall, it looked like the work was progressing steadily.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on January 11, 2016, 08:57:32 PM
Yes, steady progress. It's still in the grading phase; no bridge beams down yet.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on June 08, 2016, 09:14:57 AM
Just noticed you can see the Carroll project underway in the current Google maps aerial and street view pics.

District 5 is not good about posting updates to the project page or even on Facebook
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: mgk920 on June 08, 2016, 10:29:32 AM
Just noticed you can see the Carroll project underway in the current Google maps aerial and street view pics.

District 5 is not good about posting updates to the project page or even on Facebook

Now, to properly redo that part between I-70 and I-270 (southeast) . . . .

(yea, we can all dream   :spin:  )

Mike
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on June 08, 2016, 11:26:50 AM
Just noticed you can see the Carroll project underway in the current Google maps aerial and street view pics.

District 5 is not good about posting updates to the project page or even on Facebook

Now, to properly redo that part between I-70 and I-270 (southeast) . . . .

(yea, we can all dream   :spin:  )

Mike

Not gonna happen. Rebuild plans have them keeping the signal.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on June 08, 2016, 12:15:34 PM
Just noticed you can see the Carroll project underway in the current Google maps aerial and street view pics.

District 5 is not good about posting updates to the project page or even on Facebook

Now, to properly redo that part between I-70 and I-270 (southeast) . . . .

(yea, we can all dream   :spin:  )

Mike

Not gonna happen. Rebuild plans have them keeping the signal.

That section is within the scope of a study covering a portion of I-70. Last I saw alternatives for that one, there was one which was very impressive.  While still technically retaining the Petzinger Rd signal on US 33, the ramps between I-70 towards Downtown and US-33 towards Lancaster would fly over that intersection in that alternative.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on June 08, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
Just noticed you can see the Carroll project underway in the current Google maps aerial and street view pics.

District 5 is not good about posting updates to the project page or even on Facebook

Now, to properly redo that part between I-70 and I-270 (southeast) . . . .

(yea, we can all dream   :spin:  )

Mike

Not gonna happen. Rebuild plans have them keeping the signal.

That section is within the scope of a study covering a portion of I-70. Last I saw alternatives for that one, there was one which was very impressive.  While still technically retaining the Petzinger Rd signal on US 33, the ramps between I-70 towards Downtown and US-33 towards Lancaster would fly over that intersection in that alternative.

That was my point. I actually like that alternative, as it preserves the freeway-freeway connection. Actually, I like ODOT's plans for I-70 between downtown and SR 204. It'll do a lot to solve the issues in that area.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 08, 2016, 04:31:48 PM

That was my point. I actually like that alternative, as it preserves the freeway-freeway connection. Actually, I like ODOT's plans for I-70 between downtown and SR 204. It'll do a lot to solve the issues in that area.

I guess ODOT might be inspired by the freeway-freeway connection of I-680 and US-6/West Dodge Road at Omaha. http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.26479,-96.08275&z=15&t=S
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on July 22, 2016, 11:00:14 PM
District 5 has been posting some pics of the Carroll project lately on facebook, here's the most recent post: https://www.facebook.com/ODOTD5/posts/1177470612294077

Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on July 23, 2016, 08:21:29 PM
That picture is at least a month old since the beams on the other side of the overpass are now down. The approach on the right is much further along as well.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on September 08, 2016, 01:22:10 PM
The McDonalds at the new interchange has rage-closed. Looking like a month or two until project completion.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on September 08, 2016, 01:32:49 PM
It's a shame my job doesn't take me this way anymoreÖ
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on February 11, 2017, 02:41:35 PM
So apparently traffic has been using the new interchange at Carroll since the middle of November. Anyone been through there yet?

Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on February 12, 2017, 09:18:01 PM
Yes, I'm through there 5 days a week. It took me until Friday to actually use the interchange though. Barriers on 33 still need finished and I imagine 33 through there will be repaved once the asphalt plants re-open for the year. The asphalt has that awkward look and feel of having a project done on it without any more work done on the surface itself. Also, more lighting is yet to be installed. I think all the signage has been installed except for little stuff like mileage markers and cryptic inventory stuff.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: mgk920 on February 13, 2017, 11:53:26 AM

That was my point. I actually like that alternative, as it preserves the freeway-freeway connection. Actually, I like ODOT's plans for I-70 between downtown and SR 204. It'll do a lot to solve the issues in that area.

I guess ODOT might be inspired by the freeway-freeway connection of I-680 and US-6/West Dodge Road at Omaha. http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=41.26479,-96.08275&z=15&t=S

I'd love to see a map of this proposal.

 :nod:

Mike
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on December 12, 2017, 03:15:55 PM
There are now 3D renderings of the proposed US 33/Petzinger Rd interchange/intersection:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_1.jpg
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_6.jpg
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_7b.jpg

and here's the above view: http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger%20Option%204.pdf

Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: mgk920 on December 13, 2017, 10:27:36 AM
There are now 3D renderings of the proposed US 33/Petzinger Rd interchange/intersection:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_1.jpg
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_6.jpg
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_7b.jpg

and here's the above view: http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger%20Option%204.pdf

Interesting solution for that part of that area.  The only change that I would make would be to extend a conventional sidewalk to the northwest on the southwest side of US 33.

Elsewhere in that area, I would redo the I-70/James Rd interchange to eliminate the westbound 'par-clo' ramps on I-70, replacing them with diamond ramps (eastbound to remain), replacing the signalized ramp intersections with roundabouts and extending Petzinger Rd eastward to the roundabout that would be built at the EB ramp intersection, giving that area along Petzinger a useful 'second way out' (could Petzinger Rd to the east be reconnected with James Rd, too?).  I would also rebuild James Rd in that area to urban standards with curbs, sidewalks, streetlights, etc.

The US 33/OH 104/Refugee Rd/James Rd/Winchester Pike (et al) part will be an interesting challenge to update, especially to restore local non-motorized connectivity and integrate the area into a cohesive urban network, too.

Mike
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: JREwing78 on December 13, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
I find it odd that they've gone to such lengths to grade-separate traffic in the area, and then only provide one lane coming off of EBD I-70 to EBD US-33. I would think that would be a major enough movement to justify 2 EBD lanes.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on February 13, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
There are now 3D renderings of the proposed US 33/Petzinger Rd interchange/intersection:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_1.jpg
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_6.jpg
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger_Cam_7b.jpg

and here's the above view: http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/FarEastFreewayStudy/Documents/Petzinger%20Option%204.pdf

I don't think these are new, but those renderings are very nice looking. Detailed models of existing buildings, bounce lighting, realistic terrain elevation, realistic terrain texture (though I'm a bit surprised they didn't model lush grass where earth is moved or pavement is removed), subtle depth-of-field simulationÖ these must have been expensive.

I find it odd that they've gone to such lengths to grade-separate traffic in the area, and then only provide one lane coming off of EBD I-70 to EBD US-33. I would think that would be a major enough movement to justify 2 EBD lanes.

It's one lane already. Sure, it backs up a bit in the afternoons, but I think bypassing the light at Petzinger could plausibly fix that. Increasing the through-width of that movement to two non-stop lanes would require expanding the scope to include rebuilding the railroad bridge to accommodate a wider roadway beneath, and modifications to the James Rd / Refugee Rd / 104 interchange ó or eliminating access from Petzinger Rd to 33 EB.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on July 02, 2018, 09:27:00 PM
Here's a project currently underway to winden US 33 between for just over a mile between the I-270 and OH 317 (Hamilton Rd) interchanges

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/Documents/US%2033%20Widening%20Fact%20Sheet%202018.pdf
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on January 05, 2020, 11:02:17 AM
https://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/2019/10/23/odot-conducting-feasibility-study-pickerington-road-interchange/4065738002/

ODOT is conducting a feasibility study for a potential interchange on US 33 at Pickerington Rd
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on January 05, 2020, 12:29:34 PM
https://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/2019/10/23/odot-conducting-feasibility-study-pickerington-road-interchange/4065738002/

ODOT is conducting a feasibility study for a potential interchange on US 33 at Pickerington Rd

Needs it, IMO. That's one of the 2 lights left between I-270 and West Virginia. Everything else has been bypassed or grade separated.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on January 05, 2020, 12:50:44 PM
https://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/2019/10/23/odot-conducting-feasibility-study-pickerington-road-interchange/4065738002/

ODOT is conducting a feasibility study for a potential interchange on US 33 at Pickerington Rd

Needs it, IMO. That's one of the 2 lights left between I-270 and West Virginia. Everything else has been bypassed or grade separated.

It's actually the only one left between I-270 and WV

Though it is one of the 2 left between I-70 and WV, with the other being Petzinger Rd, of which there are renderings for the planned interchange a few posts upthread (but no funding yet that I know of)
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on January 05, 2020, 01:36:19 PM
It's actually the only one left between I-270 and WV

Though it is one of the 2 left between I-70 and WV, with the other being Petzinger Rd, of which there are renderings for the planned interchange a few posts upthread (but no funding yet that I know of)

There is one south of Lancaster (https://goo.gl/maps/ZF58ZbwgwyoN6yzC8).
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on January 05, 2020, 02:08:28 PM
Indeed. I stand corrected.

I may have been conflating something I read about the number of traffic lights left between Columbus and Lancaster, in reference to the Carroll project.

Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on January 07, 2020, 01:32:52 PM
https://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/2019/10/23/odot-conducting-feasibility-study-pickerington-road-interchange/4065738002/

ODOT is conducting a feasibility study for a potential interchange on US 33 at Pickerington Rd

Needs it, IMO. That's one of the 2 lights left between I-270 and West Virginia. Everything else has been bypassed or grade separated.

Only because there is a stop sign where US 33 exits itself at OH 7, outside of Pomeroy.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: NE2 on January 07, 2020, 01:50:12 PM
https://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/2019/10/23/odot-conducting-feasibility-study-pickerington-road-interchange/4065738002/

ODOT is conducting a feasibility study for a potential interchange on US 33 at Pickerington Rd

Needs it, IMO. That's one of the 2 lights left between I-270 and West Virginia. Everything else has been bypassed or grade separated.

Only because there is a stop sign where US 33 exits itself at OH 7, outside of Pomeroy.
Where is this stop sign?
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on January 07, 2020, 02:03:52 PM
Where is this stop sign?

Through movements on 7 and 33 are unobstructed. Almost everything else gets a stop sign.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on January 07, 2020, 03:12:00 PM
https://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/2019/10/23/odot-conducting-feasibility-study-pickerington-road-interchange/4065738002/

ODOT is conducting a feasibility study for a potential interchange on US 33 at Pickerington Rd

Needs it, IMO. That's one of the 2 lights left between I-270 and West Virginia. Everything else has been bypassed or grade separated.

Only because there is a stop sign where US 33 exits itself at OH 7, outside of Pomeroy.
Where is this stop sign?

I forgot that ODOT built that 1/2 mile loop for US 33 south at Oh 7.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: hbelkins on January 07, 2020, 03:52:29 PM
https://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/2019/10/23/odot-conducting-feasibility-study-pickerington-road-interchange/4065738002/

ODOT is conducting a feasibility study for a potential interchange on US 33 at Pickerington Rd

Needs it, IMO. That's one of the 2 lights left between I-270 and West Virginia. Everything else has been bypassed or grade separated.

Only because there is a stop sign where US 33 exits itself at OH 7, outside of Pomeroy.
Where is this stop sign?

I forgot that ODOT built that 1/2 mile loop for US 33 south at Oh 7.

Yeah, first time I came across it, I was like, "huh? What's the purpose for this? Wrecks from people trying to stay on 33 pulling out in front of northbound traffic on 7?

https://goo.gl/maps/yYjVF6bFkFdyd6Jk9
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on January 07, 2020, 04:08:51 PM
When was that loop built?

I've never been around it, but then again, I just realized that every time I've used US 33 in that area it was in the WB direction
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on January 07, 2020, 11:41:33 PM
When was that loop built?

I've never been around it, but then again, I just realized that every time I've used US 33 in that area it was in the WB direction

According to Google Earth, 2007/8.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: The Ghostbuster on January 09, 2020, 05:56:34 PM
These questions don't pertain to the subject thread, but does ODOT have any plans to either four-lane or extend the existing US 33 freeway beyond its existing northwestern terminus at Huntsville? Or are there any plans to upgrade any portion of US 33 southeast of Lancaster to freeway standards?
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on January 09, 2020, 10:55:41 PM
These questions don't pertain to the subject thread, but does ODOT have any plans to either four-lane or extend the existing US 33 freeway beyond its existing northwestern terminus at Huntsville? Or are there any plans to upgrade any portion of US 33 southeast of Lancaster to freeway standards?

No
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on January 12, 2020, 08:21:18 PM
edit: nevermind, answer was upthread
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on January 12, 2020, 08:31:30 PM
Here's a project currently underway to winden US 33 between for just over a mile between the I-270 and OH 317 (Hamilton Rd) interchanges

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/Documents/US%2033%20Widening%20Fact%20Sheet%202018.pdf

This was finished by October of last year.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on January 19, 2020, 08:20:35 AM
Here's a project currently underway to winden US 33 between for just over a mile between the I-270 and OH 317 (Hamilton Rd) interchanges

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/districts/D06/projects/Documents/US%2033%20Widening%20Fact%20Sheet%202018.pdf

This was finished by October of last year.

Drove through there yesterday, looks nice. The new lanes were added to the outside edge of the freeway, as mile long exit only lanes that extend as a continuation of one interchange's entrance ramp to the next interchange's exit ramp and are separated from the through lanes with short dotted lines for the entire length.

On another note, man that Petzinger Rd traffic light seems out of place when traveling westbound on 33, since with the way they have things signed it falls right between the exit for I-70 east and the exit for I-70 west. I wish they could get to that one sooner than later, but understand why the focus seems to be on the section outside of I-270 for now.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on September 08, 2020, 08:27:57 PM
So apparently Petzinger Rd is going to be made into an RCUT intersection in 2023 (not shown in the renderings), with the full overpass/interchange configuration (in the renderings) still being planned for the future but currently unfunded

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odot/projects/projects/113744
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Bitmapped on September 09, 2020, 05:09:16 PM
So apparently Petzinger Rd is going to be made into an RCUT intersection in 2023 (not shown in the renderings), with the full overpass/interchange configuration (in the renderings) still being planned for the future but currently unfunded

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odot/projects/projects/113744

Realigning US 33 at James Road is the part I'm more interested in. The weave there now to go from I-70 WB to SR 104 SB is bad. This first phase of work will get rid of that.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: cl94 on September 09, 2020, 05:51:46 PM
About flipping time we see some work here. This area has been a mess...damn, since I briefly lived in the area ~15 years ago. Shame it won't begin until 2023, but a RCUT (or "superstreet") is long overdue.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: 6a on September 14, 2020, 04:00:59 PM
So apparently Petzinger Rd is going to be made into an RCUT intersection in 2023 (not shown in the renderings), with the full overpass/interchange configuration (in the renderings) still being planned for the future but currently unfunded

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odot/projects/projects/113744

Realigning US 33 at James Road is the part I'm more interested in. The weave there now to go from I-70 WB to SR 104 SB is bad. This first phase of work will get rid of that.
Thank god for that; Iíve been in so many near misses in that section.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on September 15, 2020, 07:52:05 PM



Realigning US 33 at James Road is the part I'm more interested in. The weave there now to go from I-70 WB to SR 104 SB is bad. This first phase of work will get rid of that.

Just drove through there today, which was the first time I done it in the southeast direction in a long time, so I hadn't really noticed that weave before. Sure enough, today I saw a semi come across from James Rd to 104 south, though luckily it was a few lengths ahead of me and I didnt need to brake.

On another US 33 note, not sure why the section from the end of the Nelsonville bypass to the Athens city limit can't be 60 mph. I can see why they want the part through town and the US50/OH 32 interchanges to be 55 mph, but the rest of it out to Nelsonville is very similar to other sections of divided highway in the state that got the bump to 60.



VS988

Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Bitmapped on September 15, 2020, 09:49:17 PM

On another US 33 note, not sure why the section from the end of the Nelsonville bypass to the Athens city limit can't be 60 mph. I can see why they want the part through town and the US50/OH 32 interchanges to be 55 mph, but the rest of it out to Nelsonville is very similar to other sections of divided highway in the state that got the bump to 60.

My understanding is that stretch of US 33 has relatively high accident rates, especially at the intersections.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on September 15, 2020, 10:55:20 PM
So apparently Petzinger Rd is going to be made into an RCUT intersection in 2023 (not shown in the renderings), with the full overpass/interchange configuration (in the renderings) still being planned for the future but currently unfunded

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odot/projects/projects/113744

The RCUT can make a dent in the backups onto 70E I suppose if the lights have different timing that says "Sorry folks leaving the Water's Edge apartments and going straight through or wanting to go west on 33, you're going to have to wait."
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on September 15, 2020, 10:58:56 PM
In other 33 news, the section from the Diley Rd. interchange near Canal Winchester to where the Lancaster Bypass begins has been designated a "Distracted Driving and Speeding Enforcement Corridor" including a factory-like "XX Number of Days Since Last Serious Accident" sign.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on September 20, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
So apparently Petzinger Rd is going to be made into an RCUT intersection in 2023 (not shown in the renderings), with the full overpass/interchange configuration (in the renderings) still being planned for the future but currently unfunded

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/odot/projects/projects/113744

The RCUT can make a dent in the backups onto 70E I suppose if the lights have different timing that says "Sorry folks leaving the Water's Edge apartments and going straight through or wanting to go west on 33, you're going to have to wait."

Wait, will the RCUT even be signalized at all? I was driving through this one today and thought that might be a possibility.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on September 25, 2020, 08:11:51 PM
Gristly crossover crash on this stretch today: https://www.10tv.com/article/traffic/us-33-crash-sep-25/530-9209500c-0652-441e-aba0-577392ad546f

I wonder if this will lead to the installation of cable median barriers. While they may not have stopped a fully loaded dump truck, they can lower the number of crossover crashes and it would stop the illegal and dangerous "Michigan Lefts" people try to make at the next intersection to the west -- which is a RIRO that people try to cheat. This phenomenon was outlined starting in the sixth post on this page: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14486.25
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on October 08, 2020, 07:47:12 PM
Here is information, including design alternative maps and a virtual meeting video for the Pickerington Rd. interchange:

https://www.publicinput.com/F4382 (https://www.publicinput.com/F4382)
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on October 09, 2020, 02:37:47 PM
Here is information, including design alternative maps and a virtual meeting video for the Pickerington Rd. interchange:

https://www.publicinput.com/F4382 (https://www.publicinput.com/F4382)

Thanks for that. Of the 4 proposed alternatives still in the running (https://www.publicinput.com/Customer/File/Full/b9a3f7e6-2cc1-4029-b3a3-2d50d6da8d53), I like Alternative #2 the best. Also, #9 is kind of interesting, in that it would have somewhat similar wonkiness as the next exit down in Carroll.

5 Alternatives have been eliminated from consideration: https://www.publicinput.com/Customer/File/Full/b7600959-cf0d-4acf-83ca-3921d958a8df
On those I se that #3 is basically the same thing as #4 from the still in the running list, but with smooth curves for through movements on Pickerington Rd instead of a bunch of turns. I guess it must cost too much to do it that way.

All 9 alternatives eliminate 4 total at grade intersections: Pickerington Rd, Columbus Lancaster Rd, and Allen Rd x2. The also all have a pair of concrete elevated ramps for the movements to and from US 33 eastbound that are tightly squeezed into the available space between 33 and the parallel railroad line.

Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on October 09, 2020, 03:36:39 PM
Seems like from the feedback that a lot of people like #9. The commenters I heard actually were pretty sharp, it's wasn't a bunch of "grrr, this is going to make a bunch of people move here" stuff. They did not like parclos; several people mentioned that.

Hard to tell from the map, but #3 would have taken out 7-10 houses.

It's going to be tough to get that overpass in there if they do it right at the Pickerington Rd. junction. It's going to be double height too for the double stacked rail cars (that don't run through here currently due to track degradation). I almost think 33 will have to move a bit to the north for it.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: The Ghostbuster on October 09, 2020, 07:59:34 PM
Whichever alternative they choose, I hope the exit is numbered from the get-go. Alt. 2 would probably be numbered 140, while the rest would likely be numbered 141.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: 6a on October 10, 2020, 10:19:23 AM
What is the proposed 33-70 connector thatís mentioned? First Iíve heard of such a thing.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on October 10, 2020, 10:41:24 AM
^I think that's the "whole idea" of the freeway conversion in general, including the Petzinger interchange. Maybe in some people's minds it includes the Lancaster and Nelsonville Bypasses and even the past Athens County work.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on October 22, 2020, 09:17:35 PM
What is the proposed 33-70 connector thatís mentioned? First Iíve heard of such a thing.

I think that's a local north-south arterial proposed for the area by planners in Pickerington. Intended to run from US 33 at/near Allen Rd to I-70 at/near Mink St, or something like that.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on October 23, 2020, 04:29:35 PM
Oh ew, I don't like the sound of that if that's what it is. Sounds unnecessary even with warehouse growth at 310.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: 6a on October 23, 2020, 05:12:12 PM
What is the proposed 33-70 connector thatís mentioned? First Iíve heard of such a thing.

I think that's a local north-south arterial proposed for the area by planners in Pickerington. Intended to run from US 33 at/near Allen Rd to I-70 at/near Mink St, or something like that.
Oh wow. I had never heard of this
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Buck87 on October 24, 2020, 04:55:28 PM
I do remember an article from several years back that stated Pickerington preferred Allen Rd over Pickerington Rd for some reason for the location of a future interchange, so that planned connector must have been why?   
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: carbaugh2 on October 29, 2020, 12:02:41 PM
What is the proposed 33-70 connector thatís mentioned? First Iíve heard of such a thing.

I think that's a local north-south arterial proposed for the area by planners in Pickerington. Intended to run from US 33 at/near Allen Rd to I-70 at/near Mink St, or something like that.
Oh wow. I had never heard of this

I had never heard anything of it, either, but I was able to find this document through MORPC. The concept makes a lot of sense given that Etna is well on its way to become the next distribution hub in central Ohio. Besides, there is no freely flowing north-south connection between I-70 and US 33 from Ohio 37 to I-270. While I hate the thought of losing more quality farmland in the area, I think that this road would be very beneficial to area residents as well as the distribution centers.

http://www.morpc.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/FAI_I-70_to_US_33_Connector.pdf
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on October 29, 2020, 11:42:10 PM
That long of an all-new alignment though? That's going to be incredibly expensive today. We haven't seen something that long all new that I can think of nearby since 35 from Xenia to Washington C.H. and Chillicothe to Richmond Dale 20 years ago. Maybe OH-16 east of Newark around the same time. Sounds like another free gift to Amazon.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: carbaugh2 on October 31, 2020, 07:41:53 AM
I certainly agree that it will be very costly. Where I do disagree, though, is that it is just a gift to Amazon. Between Amazon, Prologis Park 70, the Etna Corporate Park and the Pataskala Corporate Park, Etna has become a distribution hub in the Midwest. Amazon's first building is just what you see from I-70 right now, but that is changing. Development (Etna Park 70 and The Cubes at Etna 70) is taking place on the south side of the 310 interchange, including a new Kohl's distribution center. Ashley Furniture just announced last week that it will be moving into Etna when its new distribution center opens in 2021. Amazon recently broke ground on its 2nd building in the area as well, bringing the company's total occupancy in Etna to between 2-2.25 million square feet. Etna already has somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 million square feet of distribution center and light manufacturing space, and it seems like the Newark Advocate reports on a new ground breaking ceremony in Etna or Pataskala on a weekly or biweekly basis. I would imagine that Fairfield County and MORPC see this connector as a way to enhance and expand the investment opportunities in this area of central Ohio.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on November 02, 2020, 04:58:37 PM
It will probably be built in segments over a period of more than a decade, like Dublin's Emerald Parkway, Grove City's Buckeye Parkway, or Delaware County's Sawmill Parkway.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on November 04, 2020, 09:28:03 PM
Some of the people that were calling in to the virtual meeting were complaining about "Amazon trucks" traveling on Allen Road (a two lane "country road" for sure). I thought they just meant the standard Ram delivery vans -- no, they were talking about full semis. I see these semis pull off of Allen Road onto 33 now. Obviously this is a bit of a spectacle seeing them make a right angle turn uphill onto a freeway that has just come down from 70mph to 60.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: carbaugh2 on January 15, 2021, 12:18:22 PM
ODOT District 5 announced today that it has chosen Alternative 2 for the Pickerington Rd/Allen Rd area (https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHDOT/bulletins/2b98396). As a refresher, this creates a parclo interchange at Pickerington Rd and turns both intersections with Allen Rd into cul de sacs. With the ~$40 million price tag, I wonder if this will have to go through TRAC or if it will be able to funded differently like the Northeast and Southside Mega Fixes. The alternatives may still be viewed at http://www.publicinput.com/F4382?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery.

Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on May 25, 2021, 03:49:11 PM
Saw some drilling going on at the SW corner of 33 and Pickerington Rd. today. Core samples?
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on August 13, 2021, 11:45:01 AM
The Distracted Driving and Speeding Enforcement Corridor signs have all been removed including the "XX Number of Days Since Last Serious Accident" ones. So that lasted 11 months. The sign posts remain. Perhaps they are going to try another concept.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: vtk on August 17, 2021, 09:09:23 AM
Those were so silly
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: SkyPesos on August 17, 2021, 10:32:43 AM
Saw some of those "distracted driving corridor" signs on I-71 and I-77 in the northeast part of the state about a month ago, and I had no clue what the real point of those signs are for. It's not like that you'll get more people to drive at the speed limit when traffic is flowing at 10 mph above.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on August 17, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
Today the posts were gone as well.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 17, 2021, 10:21:00 PM
ODOT & OHP are still keeping their distracted driving corridor signs along I-71, up by my house (Delaware/Morrow Counties).
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: I-55 on August 17, 2021, 10:43:56 PM
I can get behind target enforcement on distracted and drunk driving, as those cause problems regardless of what the rest of traffic is doing, but speed (especially on freeways) causes problems when compared to the rest of traffic. I'm not going to follow an artificial speed cap delegated by a sign when I have multi-ton hunks of metal motoring around me at body-temperature speeds.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on August 18, 2021, 10:30:02 AM
What's ironic is that the amount of patrols tanked while the signs were up due to COVID and speeds reached higher. There are a few stretches north of Lancaster where a lot of people won't reach the speed limit, especially the commercial traffic. This of course leads to platooning. Due to this rampant unwillingness and platooning, I feel that the speed limit should be reduced to 65 from 70 between Allen Rd. and the Lancaster Bypass. Too much weaving in that stretch as well.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on September 22, 2021, 09:06:42 PM
Was in Nelsonville Monday and the Distracted Driving and Speeding Enforcement Corridor signs are still in force on 33 from Nelsonville to 17 miles to the east of there.
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 23, 2021, 11:25:30 PM
Was in Nelsonville Monday and the Distracted Driving and Speeding Enforcement Corridor signs are still in force on 33 from Nelsonville to 17 miles to the east of there.

How far south of Athens?
Title: Re: US 33 Freeway Conversion - Columbus to Lancaster
Post by: GCrites80s on September 24, 2021, 11:44:00 AM
I didn't see the end. There was a sign at Nelsonville saying the Corridor was for the next 17 miles.