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Title: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: thspfc on March 15, 2021, 09:08:19 PM
I noticed that an Interstate bracket challenge was created in the Mid South board. So let's continue the tradition in the best board on the forum.  :-D

To keep the rules consistent with the Mid South edition, you're only voting based on the segment of said Interstate within the boundaries of the Midwest/Great Lakes/Rust Belt/whatever else you call it. I think we all have a loose idea of what that entails so let's not launch into yet another debate about the specific boundaries of the region.

I'm leaving out I-79 and I-86, because while they enter the Midwest-Great Lakes region under AARoads' definition, I never see any posts about Pennsylvania or New York in this board, so I don't see a point in including them.

So here is the bracket:
West Region
#1 seed: I-90 (first round bye)
#2 seed: I-94 (first round bye)
#3 seed: I-35 (first round bye)
#4 seed: I-55 (first round bye)
#5 seed: I-74 (first round bye)
#6 seed: I-88 (first round bye)
#7 seed: I-43
#8 seed: I-39
#9 seed: I-41
#10 seed: I-57

East Region
#1 seed: I-80 (first round bye)
#2 seed: I-70 (first round bye)
#3 seed: I-75 (first round bye)
#4 seed: I-71 (first round bye)
#5 seed: I-65 (first round bye)
#6 seed: I-96 (first round bye)
#7 seed: I-69 (first round bye)
#8 seed: I-77
#9 seed: I-76

First Round
West
#7 I-43 vs #10 I-57
#8 I-39 vs #9 I-41
East
#8 I-77 vs #9 I-76

Vote on those three matchups between now and Monday 3/22.

Second Round Preview
West
#1 I-90 vs winner of 8/9 matchup
#4 I-55 vs #5 I-74
#3 I-35 vs #6 I-88
#2 I-94 vs winner of 7/10 matchup
East
#1 I-80 vs winner of 8/9 matchup
#4 I-71 vs #5 I-65
#3 I-75 vs #6 I-96
#2 I-70 vs #7 I-69

I will count up the first round results and kick off the second round on Monday or Tuesday.
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: Big John on March 15, 2021, 09:22:25 PM
First Round
West
#7 I-43 vs #10 I-57
#8 I-39 vs #9 I-41
East
#8 I-77 vs #9 I-76
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: ilpt4u on March 15, 2021, 09:24:30 PM
West:
I-57
I-39
East:
I-76
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: SSOWorld on March 15, 2021, 09:33:45 PM
West:
I-43
I-39
East:
I-77
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
#7 I-43 vs #10 I-57
Chicago > Milwaukee. Also, Champaign is a nice college town ngl.

#8 I-39 vs #9 I-41
7 miles of non-multiplexed segment is better than 0  :D

East
#8 I-77 vs #9 I-76
Pittsburgh > Cleveland
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: ilpt4u on March 15, 2021, 09:53:06 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
#7 I-43 vs #10 I-57
Chicago > Milwaukee. Also, Champaign is a nice college town ngl.
Honestly, I like Carbondale over Champaign, but whatever. I wasn't impressed by Champaign-Urbana when I lived in Central IL. Haven't spent much time in Charleston, so no data on that college town along I-57

Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 09:41:34 PM
East
#8 I-77 vs #9 I-76
Pittsburgh > Cleveland
Come on now, I-76 wins because of the OH TP Bump!
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on March 15, 2021, 10:05:45 PM
I-57 over 43: bigger city, more important nationally
I-41 over 39:  again, bugger metro areas
I-77 over 76: because FU PA TPK
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: ET21 on March 18, 2021, 02:28:24 PM
First Round
West
#7 I-43 vs #10 I-57
#8 I-39 vs #9 I-41
East
#8 I-77 vs #9 I-76
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: zzcarp on March 19, 2021, 09:20:38 PM
First Round
West
#10 I-57
#8 I-39
East
#8 I-77
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: I-55 on March 19, 2021, 09:58:00 PM
57
39
77
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on March 19, 2021, 10:05:37 PM
I-57
I-39
I-76
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: Buck87 on March 22, 2021, 11:16:41 AM
West
I-43
I-39
East
I-77
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 22, 2021, 04:11:58 PM
Here's my picks for the first round.

West
#7 I-43 vs #10 I-57
#8 I-39 vs #9 I-41
East
#8 I-77 vs #9 I-76
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 22, 2021, 04:23:12 PM
First Round
West
#7 I-43 vs #10 I-57
#8 I-39 vs #9 I-41
East
#8 I-77 vs #9 I-76

Chris
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: thspfc on March 22, 2021, 10:53:33 PM
First Round Results
West
(10) I-57 upsets (7) I-43, 8-4
(8) I-39 beats (9) I-41, 10-2

East
(8) I-77 beats (9) I-76, 8-4

Second Round Matchups
West
(1) I-90 vs (8) I-39
(4) I-55 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (6) I-88
(2) I-94 vs (10) I-57

East
(1) I-80 vs (8) I-77
(4) I-71 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (6) I-96
(2) I-70 vs (7) I-69

Vote between now and Monday 3/29.
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: Big John on March 22, 2021, 11:01:37 PM
Second Round Matchups
West
(1) I-90 vs (8) I-39
(4) I-55 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (6) I-88
(2) I-94 vs (10) I-57

East
(1) I-80 vs (8) I-77
(4) I-71 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (6) I-96
(2) I-70 vs (7) I-69
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: SkyPesos on March 22, 2021, 11:37:25 PM
Second Round Matchups
West
(1) I-90 vs (8) I-39
This one is way too easy, considering I-39 multiplexes I-90 for a good portion of its route

(4) I-55 vs (5) I-74
Hometown bias

(3) I-35 vs (6) I-88
Minnesota section alone blows I-88 out of the water.

(2) I-94 vs (10) I-57
I-94 is pretty much the Main Street of the Upper Midwest. Also, I'm voting Ann Arbor over Champaign for college towns.

East
(1) I-80 vs (8) I-77
Too bad I-80 bypasses every large city in the Midwest it passes by, but overall importance and length in the Midwest is still more than I-77.

(4) I-71 vs (5) I-65
Had to go with Ohio's 3C cities over Indianapolis and Chicago. Also, hometown bias x2

(3) I-75 vs (6) I-96
Hometown bias x3

(2) I-70 vs (7) I-69
I-70 wins the Battle of Indianapolis for me over I-69 because of its Ohio segment. Also, bias for two of my former hometowns.

Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: ilpt4u on March 23, 2021, 12:56:10 AM
West:
I-90 over I-39. Even if US 51 were upgraded to I-39 south of Bloomington to Decatur and then south to I-57 at Salem, I would still pick I-90
I-55 over I-74. Even Regionally speaking only, the old US Route 66 between Chicago and St Louis is more important than Cincinnati to Davenport, Iowa
I-35 over I-88. Doesn't even need a rationalization. If I-88 took over the Eisenhower into Downtown Chicago from I-290...I-35 still wins
I-94 over I-57. I-94 is basically the Interstate that holds the NFC North together - with a spur to Green Bay that someone named I-43 instead of I-x94. I-57 is a glorified I-x55

East:
I-80 over I-77. Is what it is - even if I-80 is multiplexed thru much of the region, it is still a vital freight corridor on the national NYC-SF interstate
I-65 over I-71. This one is close, and the game rules I believe instruct a focus on the Region in-play, not the overall route. So basically looking at Indy-Chicago I-65 and Columbus-Cleveland I-71. I have to believe Indy-Chicago is the more vital link
I-75 over I-96. I-75 literally terminates I-96
I-69 over I-70. Upset Special. The "original"  I-69 shows up, as a NAFTA/US-Canada transborder trade highway, enough to take out the linking of St Louis-Indy-Columbus in the Region
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on March 23, 2021, 01:33:30 AM
Chalk walks.

I-90
I-55
I-35
I-94

I-80
I-65
I-75
I-70
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: Buck87 on March 23, 2021, 07:11:47 AM
West
I-90
I-74
I-35
I-94

East
I-80
I-71
I-75
I-70
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on March 23, 2021, 07:19:29 AM
Quote from: thspfc on March 22, 2021, 10:53:33 PM

Second Round Matchups
West
(1) I-90 vs (8) I-39
(4) I-55 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (6) I-88
(2) I-94 vs (10) I-57

East
(1) I-80 vs (8) I-77
(4) I-71 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (6) I-96
(2) I-70 vs (7) I-69

Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: ET21 on March 23, 2021, 03:36:02 PM
Second Round Matchups
West
(1) I-90 vs (8) I-39
(4) I-55 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (6) I-88
(2) I-94 vs (10) I-57

East
(1) I-80 vs (8) I-77
(4) I-71 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (6) I-96
(2) I-70 vs (7) I-69
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 23, 2021, 03:59:17 PM
Second Round Matchups
West
(1) I-90 vs (8) I-39
If 39 disappeared, I don't think I'd notice

(4) I-55 vs (5) I-74
Within the region, I think I-74 does more, Illinois politics notwithstanding

(3) I-35 vs (6) I-88
Boo tolls.

(2) I-94 vs (10) I-57
Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Detroit vs southern suburbs of Chicago?  No brainer.

East
(1) I-80 vs (8) I-77
Not close.  Even despite the tolls.

(4) I-71 vs (5) I-65
Within the region I-71 is more important.  Overall, I-65 is.

(3) I-75 vs (6) I-96
Cinci + Dayton + Toledo > Grand Rapids

(2) I-70 vs (7) I-69
I wish it were more important in Illinois, but otherwise, a stronger candidate

Chris
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: zzcarp on March 23, 2021, 10:27:25 PM
Second Round Matchups
West
(1) I-90 vs (8) I-39
(4) I-55 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (6) I-88
(2) I-94 vs (10) I-57

East
(1) I-80 vs (8) I-77
(4) I-71 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (6) I-96
(2) I-70 vs (7) I-69
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: SSOWorld on March 24, 2021, 04:06:11 AM
West
(1) I-90 vs (8) I-39
(4) I-55 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (6) I-88
(2) I-94 vs (10) I-57

East
(1) I-80 vs (8) I-77
(4) I-71 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (6) I-96
(2) I-70 vs (7) I-69
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: thspfc on March 29, 2021, 10:03:17 PM
Second Round Results
West
(1) I-90 beats (8) I-39, 9-1
(5) I-74 upsets (4) I-55, 6-4
(3) I-35 beats (6) I-88, 8-2
(2) I-94 shuts out (10) I-57, 10-0

East
(1) I-80 shuts out (8) I-77, 10-0
(5) I-65 upsets (4) I-71, 6-4
(3) I-75 beats (6) I-96, 7-3
(2) I-70 beats (7) I-69, 7-3

Quarterfinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (2) I-70

Vote between now and Monday 4/5.
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: SkyPesos on March 29, 2021, 10:29:22 PM
Quarterfinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (5) I-74
Because I'm penalizing I-80 for the lengthy concurrency here, I'll give this one to I-90.

(3) I-35 vs (2) I-94
I-94 hands down, with Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago and Detroit in addition to the Twin Cities they both serve.

East
(1) I-80 vs (5) I-65
I'm sorry I-80, but you pretty much don't go to any notable places in the Midwest that I-90 doesn't go to either, and you bypass Chicago and Cleveland too. Going to give I-65 this one for Indianapolis.

(3) I-75 vs (2) I-70
2 of the cities I've lived in the Midwest over 1.
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: Big John on March 29, 2021, 11:07:38 PM
Quarterfinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (2) I-70
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: SSOWorld on March 30, 2021, 01:04:59 AM
West
(1) I-90 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (2) I-70
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on March 30, 2021, 07:49:40 AM
Quote from: thspfc on March 29, 2021, 10:03:17 PM
Quarterfinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (2) I-70

Vote between now and Monday 4/5.
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: ET21 on March 30, 2021, 09:54:44 AM
Quarterfinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (2) I-70
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 30, 2021, 10:05:24 AM
Quarterfinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (5) I-74

(3) I-35 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (2) I-70

Chris
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: zzcarp on March 30, 2021, 10:47:08 AM
Quarterfinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (5) I-74
(3) I-35 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (5) I-65
(3) I-75 vs (2) I-70
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: Buck87 on April 01, 2021, 08:45:59 AM
West
(1) I-90
(3) I-94

East
(1) I-80
(3) I-75

Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 01, 2021, 12:08:42 PM
I-90
I-35

I-80
I-75
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: thspfc on April 05, 2021, 10:18:40 PM
Quarterfinals Results
West
(1) I-90 shuts out (5) I-74, 9-0
(2) I-94 beats (3) I-35, 7-2

East
(1) I-80 beats (5) I-65, 5-4
(3) I-75 upsets (2) I-70, 5-4

Semifinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (3) I-75

Vote between now and Monday 4/12.
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: Big John on April 05, 2021, 10:32:27 PM
I-94
I-75
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: SkyPesos on April 05, 2021, 10:35:36 PM
Semifinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (2) I-94
Detroit > Cleveland

East
(1) I-80 vs (3) I-75
I don't find I-80 to be that impressive in the Midwest + hometown bias for I-75

Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 05, 2021, 11:43:08 PM
I-94 - it's the "business route" of the Midwest and I-90 is the bypass.
I-75 - because why not
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: ilpt4u on April 05, 2021, 11:47:58 PM
I-94 over I-90. ORD and Cleveland are 90's claims in the Region. I-94 is literally the NFC North highway - it is the Region

I-80 over I-75. I-75 only exists in Ohio and Michigan in the Region. I-80 exists in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and represents a "lower"  E-W highway, compared to the Northerly I-94 routing. I-80 also sets up a better Title Game

Title Game of 80 versus 94! So good, they even share pavement in Illinois and Indiana, to get around Lake Michigan
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: zzcarp on April 06, 2021, 12:00:11 AM
I-90 as the longest interstate.

I-75 for the Mackinac bridge.
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: ET21 on April 06, 2021, 09:44:57 AM
Semifinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (3) I-75
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on April 06, 2021, 09:45:28 AM
Quote from: thspfc on April 05, 2021, 10:18:40 PM
Semifinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (2) I-94

East
(1) I-80 vs (3) I-75
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 06, 2021, 10:30:51 AM
Semifinals
West
(1) I-90 vs (2) I-94
More big cities.

East
(1) I-80 vs (3) I-75
Similar.  I barely count I-80 for being Chicago.

CHris
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: thspfc on April 07, 2021, 07:52:19 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 05, 2021, 11:43:08 PM
I-94 - it's the "business route" of the Midwest and I-90 is the bypass.
That's a really good way to describe it.
Title: Re: Midwest-Great Lakes Madness
Post by: Buck87 on April 08, 2021, 10:57:28 AM
I-94

I-75

LM-Q620