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Author Topic: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn  (Read 22793 times)

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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2021, 04:15:45 PM »

The problem with "cutting the corner" between Elkhorn and Whitewater, is that a good portion of the US-12 traffic is heading for vacation destinations between Elkhorn and WI-20.  I have driven that stretch dozens of times, and traffic drops off considerably just prior to the intersection with WI-20.  If you look at the interactive traffic map, you go from about 10-12k per day, down to 7-8k.

So I am not sure what a new terrain route would actually accomplish when you consider the cost.
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I could understand that argument. I do think they should put a roundabout at the Highway 12-20-67 intersection though to make it more efficient and more safe.
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2021, 04:43:19 PM »

I do think they should put a roundabout at the Highway 12-20-67 intersection though to make it more efficient and more safe.


I agree with this.  Absolutely hate that intersection.
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2021, 10:35:47 PM »

I do think they should put a roundabout at the Highway 12-20-67 intersection though to make it more efficient and more safe.


I agree with this.  Absolutely hate that intersection.

I'd put a roundabout there even if they do build the Corner Cut.

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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2021, 12:28:27 AM »

Since the corner cut isnít going to happen, letís continue this thread here. This way we donít have multiple US 12 Wisconsin threads.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20966.0

Mods, can you lock this thread?
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2021, 03:16:20 PM »

Since the corner cut isnít going to happen, letís continue this thread here. This way we donít have multiple US 12 Wisconsin threads.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20966.0

Mods, can you lock this thread?

Please DO NOT lock this thread! Unless, you want that thread to end up being 75% about the almighty "corner-cut".
« Last Edit: January 23, 2021, 03:18:33 PM by on_wisconsin »
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2021, 01:36:37 PM »

Since the corner cut isnít going to happen, letís continue this thread here. This way we donít have multiple US 12 Wisconsin threads.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20966.0

Mods, can you lock this thread?

Please DO NOT lock this thread! Unless, you want that thread to end up being 75% about the almighty "corner-cut".
I'm sick of the corner cut talk. It's not needed. We've had that discussion. I'm not going to debate it anymore.
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2021, 02:16:03 PM »

Since the corner cut isnít going to happen, letís continue this thread here. This way we donít have multiple US 12 Wisconsin threads.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20966.0

Mods, can you lock this thread?

Please DO NOT lock this thread! Unless, you want that thread to end up being 75% about the almighty "corner-cut".
I'm sick of the corner cut talk. It's not needed. We've had that discussion. I'm not going to debate it anymore.

It's easy to ignore if it is contained in this topic.
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2021, 08:45:03 AM »

Since the corner cut isnít going to happen, letís continue this thread here. This way we donít have multiple US 12 Wisconsin threads.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20966.0

Mods, can you lock this thread?

Please DO NOT lock this thread! Unless, you want that thread to end up being 75% about the almighty "corner-cut".
I'm sick of the corner cut talk. It's not needed. We've had that discussion. I'm not going to debate it anymore.

It's easy to ignore if it is contained in this topic.
Hey, youíre back, were you banned?
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Whether a team makes the playoffs isn't comparable to whether they are above .500. Part of making the playoffs is getting the wins when you need them to get in, which Brady/Belichick always found a way to do. That's skill. Being above .500 or below .500 is just however things shake out. That's luck.

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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #58 on: January 25, 2021, 09:17:00 AM »

Since the corner cut isnít going to happen, letís continue this thread here. This way we donít have multiple US 12 Wisconsin threads.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20966.0

Mods, can you lock this thread?

Please DO NOT lock this thread! Unless, you want that thread to end up being 75% about the almighty "corner-cut".
I'm sick of the corner cut talk. It's not needed. We've had that discussion. I'm not going to debate it anymore.

It's easy to ignore if it is contained in this topic.
Hey, youíre back, were you banned?

I took a much needed break that may or may not have been of my own choosing.    :colorful:

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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2021, 04:01:01 PM »

Over MLK weekend, I went to the Dells. On the way home I took US 12 all the way.  I noticed something I hadn't before between Whitewater and County H. There were earth movers south of 12 on the hill and it looked like they were preparing to be grading. I happened to see on Google map's sat image, it is there. Are they clearing stuff for ROW of a US 12 freeway/expressway extension? It certainly looks like it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7999781,-88.6545117,1626m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2021, 04:26:19 PM »

Over MLK weekend, I went to the Dells. On the way home I took US 12 all the way.  I noticed something I hadn't before between Whitewater and County H. There were earth movers south of 12 on the hill and it looked like they were preparing to be grading. I happened to see on Google map's sat image, it is there. Are they clearing stuff for ROW of a US 12 freeway/expressway extension? It certainly looks like it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7999781,-88.6545117,1626m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en


No I believe that is the route of a pipeline of some sort.  My recollection is that they are expanding a natural gas pipeline in the area.
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2021, 04:38:07 PM »

The US 12 Realignment Study was suspend by the DOT in July 2016. The long-proposed realignment of US 12 will likely remain unbuilt permanently.
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2021, 07:57:08 PM »

Over MLK weekend, I went to the Dells. On the way home I took US 12 all the way.  I noticed something I hadn't before between Whitewater and County H. There were earth movers south of 12 on the hill and it looked like they were preparing to be grading. I happened to see on Google map's sat image, it is there. Are they clearing stuff for ROW of a US 12 freeway/expressway extension? It certainly looks like it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7999781,-88.6545117,1626m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en


No I believe that is the route of a pipeline of some sort.  My recollection is that they are expanding a natural gas pipeline in the area.

Interesting. It looked wide enough for a 4 lane road.
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Re: U.S. 12 realignment between Whitewater-Elkhorn
« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2021, 09:41:52 AM »

Important to remember that under the fantasy scenario of there being any expansion of US 12 through the Kettle Moraine, it would certainly have to happen on the current alignment since the entire ridge is state forest.  A quarter mile southwest of US 12 is Bluff Creek State Natural Area.  SNA's get extra protection due to unique habitats/scenery.  Bluff Creek is a cool area of springs and the SNA protects the immediate watershed of those springs.

Just too bad they rammed a giant powerline through Bluff Creek in the days before anyone gave a shit.
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