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[dzlsabe]

 One EB exit and WB entrance at 87th exactly. So what is wrong with THAT "assertion"? Maybe eventually, a Brat Stop.

[SEWIGuy]

One exit and entrance at 87th exactly. So what is wrong with THAT "assertion"?

Because there is no proof that it would improve the neighborhood. 

[dzlsabe]

There is proof that NOT having them for FIFTY years is NOT improving the neighborhood.

What would WI do? They would have built a couple of roundabouts with gas, beer and cheese stores on every possible corner decades ago.

[ET21]

There is proof that NOT having them for FIFTY years is NOT improving the neighborhood.

I'd love the link to the article stating that the absence of ramps is contributing to the degradation in the area

"Enlighten me O Great Sage"

[SEWIGuy]

There is proof that NOT having them for FIFTY years is NOT improving the neighborhood.

There is also proof that not having extraterrestrials visit Chicago has not improved the neighborhood either.

Both are about as relevant. 

[GeekJedi]

What would WI do? They would have built a couple of roundabouts with gas, beer and cheese stores on every possible corner decades ago.

Wanna know what this and a certain never to be built expressway have in common? They're both figments of dzlsabe's imagination.

[dzlsabe]

What would WI do? They would have built a couple of roundabouts with gas, beer and cheese stores on every possible corner decades ago.

Wanna know what this and a certain never to be built expressway have in common? They're both figments of dzlsabe's imagination.

Everything was/is a figment of someones imagination df. Knife, wheel, beer, sausage, cheese, bicycles, aeroplanes, Is-41 & 43....until it actually happens.

[ILRoad55]

What would WI do? They would have built a couple of roundabouts with gas, beer and cheese stores on every possible corner decades ago.

Wanna know what this and a certain never to be built expressway have in common? They're both figments of dzlsabe's imagination.

Everything was/is a figment of someones imagination df. Knife, wheel, beer, sausage, cheese, bicycles, aeroplanes, Is-41 & 43....until it actually happens.

Stereotypically (rude) now? Okay, I can see where this thread will go.

How about we actually talk about existing Tollways and (officially) proposed ideas.

[quickshade]

The Illinois Tollway will host a series of open house meetings as part of the agency’s ongoing work to plan for improvements to the Central Tri-State Tollway (I-294).

Monday, April 24, 6-8 p.m. – Hinsdale Oasis, Tri-State Tollway (I-294)
Tuesday, April 25, 6-8 p.m. – Lipinski Community Center, 7256 Skyline Dr., Justice
Wednesday, April 26, 6-8 p.m. – O’Hare Oasis, Tri-State Tollway (I-294)

As part of the 15-year, $12 billion Move Illinois capital program, the Tollway is developing a plan to determine improvements to be included in the reconstruction of the Central Tri-State Tollway (I-294) between 95th Street and Balmoral Avenue.
This is the only remaining segments of the original Tollway system constructed in the 1950s that has not been improved and modernized to meet current and future transportation needs.

Getting back on topic, anyone going to any of these?

[Rick Powell]

Getting back on topic, anyone going to any of these?

I will be at the one at Hinsdale Oasis Monday, probably between 6-7 pm.

[SSOWorld]

Getting back on topic, anyone going to any of these?

I will be at the one at Hinsdale Oasis Monday, probably between 6-7 pm.

So much for "Public Information Meetings" being free of charge </sarcasmMode>

[tribar]

The gas pumps were shutdown at O'Hare Oasis this morning.

[dzlsabe]

As part of the 15-year, $12 billion Move (out of) Illinois capital program, the Tollway is developing a plan to determine improvements to be included in the reconstruction of the Central Tri-State Tollway (I-294) between 95th Street and Balmoral Avenue.
This is the ONLY remaining segments of the original Tollway system constructed in the 1950s that has not been improved and modernized to meet current and future transportation needs.

So it has not been improved and modernized since the '50s? And NOW youre on it? Thinking about "future transportation needs"? Hillarryous. When will you retire?

https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/capital-programs

My fav line...Planning studies for the Illinois Route 53/120 Project and "other emerging projects."
WHAT OTHER EMERGING PROJECTS??? Pray tell.

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[ILRoad55]

Hey you spelled hilarious wrong.

And those other emerging projects,

I-88 east of York Road. That's actually all I can think of. Where else does the tollway system actually need to be redone?

[tribar]

Hey you spelled hilarious wrong.

And those other emerging projects,

I-88 east of York Road. That's actually all I can think of. Where else does the tollway system actually need to be redone?

Edens Spur.

[ET21]

Hey you spelled hilarious wrong.

And those other emerging projects,

I-88 east of York Road. That's actually all I can think of. Where else does the tollway system actually need to be redone?

Maybe the 294/80 split? Couple of those ramps are awkward for trucks

[Joe The Dragon]

Hey you spelled hilarious wrong.

And those other emerging projects,

I-88 east of York Road. That's actually all I can think of. Where else does the tollway system actually need to be redone?

Maybe the 294/80 split? Couple of those ramps are awkward for trucks

well the new I-57 ramps do take load off that spilt.

[Henry]

FWIW, I like the Skyway as it is. Adding exits would not be a bad idea, though I'd make them so that you couldn't get off until you paid a toll.

[I-39]

Getting back on track, is anyone going to the Central Tri-State rebuild meetings? If so, what was said and where can we find planning documents (up to date ones from this year. New ones haven't been posted since January 2016 on the Tollway website)?

[dzlsabe]

FWIW, I like the Skyway as it is. Adding exits would not be a bad idea, though I'd make them so that you couldn't get off until you paid a toll.

How much would be "fair", your royal tightness? 50 cents? One would not be going over the bridge, remember. Other than the Skyway bridge there are NO tolls in Chicago.


As to the Tri-state widening...

"Aimee Lee, the Tollway's senior manager of strategic planning and programming, warned that congestion on the Tri-State will get much worse without widening in the next two decades. Travel time on southbound central I-294 during the morning rush hour, for example, could grow from 24 minutes to an hour by 2040, Lee said."

She warned. WHAT IF (I realize Im steppin out on huge limb here, as road planning around here is spot on) widening the Tri-state (and the Ike) the "HOVing hootenanny" just does not live up to "strategic planning" expectations??? In ten years?

Kinda begs that "maybe build something 4 times the length of Edens Spur" question, does it not, Aimee?

[ChiMilNet]

It looks like the Tollway is going all in on widening the Central Portion of I-294. From what I am reading, it seems a lot of the construction will mirror what was done with I-90. I know there is a lot community opposition, but this is badly needed in this stretch, and I am glad that there is serious consideration being given to upgrades at the I-55 and I-88/I-290 interchanges along this stretch. From the article:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-tollway-294-construction-0425-20170424-story.html

The 22-mile stretch — from Balmoral Avenue near O'Hare International Airport to 95th Street in Bridgeview — is the Tollway's heaviest-traveled section, which sees 155,000 vehicles daily. It is currently four lanes each direction. The new rebuilding and widening plan, an expansion from an earlier $1.9 billion plan to just rebuild the existing road, would add a lane in each direction and use "flex lanes" on the inside shoulder for buses and emergency vehicles. Tollway staff said the expanded project could be done without raising tolls, through improved toll collection and lower debt service on bonds.

[paulthemapguy]

I thought this was quirky and interesting...The Tollway is giving away saplings and seed packets on Arbor Day (April 28th)

https://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/20184/161671/20170420+-+Illinois+Tollway+to+Give+Away+Tree+Seedlings+and+Wildflower+Seeds+to+Celebrate+Arbor+Day/2f84bf3e-901c-4363-8eac-428ca596dadf

[tribar]

They were talking about this on the news tonight. 

Few things:

The Tri State was built in 1958.  It precedes almost everyone who lives near it. Stop complaining that you might lose land and that it might be too loud. You knew it was there before you moved there. It's already loud with the amount of cars and trucks that use it and the tollway would put up sound barriers. Suck it up or move. Don't ruin it for the millions who use it.

It sounds like they really are going all out in this.  HOV lanes, flex lanes etc. This will be a treat to drive when completed. I only hope they don't make it completely cashless, as doing that with the heaviest traveled area on the system is asinine.

They mentioned on the news that the Hinsdale Oasis will be demolished and that only the gas stations will remain. I wish they would find a way to keep these in place. Does anyone know the fate of the O'Hare Oasis?

[Joe The Dragon]

Redesigning the I-290 Interchange can help reduce interstate and local road delays
Improving I-55 Interchange will help reduce congestion on the Tri-State Tollway

seems to say that they will go all out with I-290 that better also deal with the I-88 parts as well.

I-55 just smaller stuff?

[Joe The Dragon]

They were talking about this on the news tonight. 

Few things:

The Tri State was built in 1958.  It precedes almost everyone who lives near it. Stop complaining that you might lose land and that it might be too loud. You knew it was there before you moved there. It's already loud with the amount of cars and trucks that use it and the tollway would put up sound barriers. Suck it up or move. Don't ruin it for the millions who use it.

It sounds like they really are going all out in this.  HOV lanes, flex lanes etc. This will be a treat to drive when completed. I only hope they don't make it completely cashless, as doing that with the heaviest traveled area on the system is asinine.

They mentioned on the news that the Hinsdale Oasis will be demolished and that only the gas stations will remain. I wish they would find a way to keep these in place. Does anyone know the fate of the O'Hare Oasis?

what channel?