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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #625 on: May 11, 2018, 08:19:18 AM »

Makes sense, I was kinda surprised that they aren't going ahead and upgrading Bliss Road to a 2 lane road between 47 and at least Norris Road. Lot of traffic from North Aurora and Sugar Grove use that and Tanner Road as a route to get west and east

They may not want to impact the Bliss Woods county park with a widening, or they want to leave it alone for other reasons. Kane County was trying to limit development in the area between Batavia and Sugar Grove, which still has a fair amount of farm land. Bliss Road and Fabyan Parkway are a well-used cutoff route to Randall Road and points east.

True. It seemed like for over the 2000s the farmland between the Outer Rim burbs of Aurora, North Aurora, Batavia, Geneva and St Charles and towns like Elburn and Sugar Grove was gonna be filled in. It's slowed down big time since the housing crash.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #626 on: May 12, 2018, 11:00:18 PM »

Makes sense, I was kinda surprised that they aren't going ahead and upgrading Bliss Road to a 2 lane road between 47 and at least Norris Road. Lot of traffic from North Aurora and Sugar Grove use that and Tanner Road as a route to get west and east

They may not want to impact the Bliss Woods county park with a widening, or they want to leave it alone for other reasons. Kane County was trying to limit development in the area between Batavia and Sugar Grove, which still has a fair amount of farm land. Bliss Road and Fabyan Parkway are a well-used cutoff route to Randall Road and points east.

True. It seemed like for over the 2000s the farmland between the Outer Rim burbs of Aurora, North Aurora, Batavia, Geneva and St Charles and towns like Elburn and Sugar Grove was gonna be filled in. It's slowed down big time since the housing crash.

Personally, I am sort of glad it slowed down. My hope is that it actually would allow enough time to get some of the roadway infrastructure caught up. I am curious what the impact to IL 47 will be with a full interchange there.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #627 on: May 14, 2018, 12:49:45 PM »

Personally, I am sort of glad it slowed down. My hope is that it actually would allow enough time to get some of the roadway infrastructure caught up. I am curious what the impact to IL 47 will be with a full interchange there.

I think the full interchange will mainly impact IL-47 on the north side of the interchange.  Since it's more or less a diagonal junction, people will mainly be going between the south and west approaches, and the north and east approaches.  People going between east and south will mainly use IL-56, and people going between west and north are relatively rare but already good to go with the way the interchange already is.  (This is the type of thing that's much easier to explain with a picture heh)

Main point-people coming from the westbound lanes on I-88 will mainly be accessing points north such as Elburn.  There will be some Waubonsee Community College traffic as well.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #628 on: May 14, 2018, 04:23:48 PM »

Personally, I am sort of glad it slowed down. My hope is that it actually would allow enough time to get some of the roadway infrastructure caught up. I am curious what the impact to IL 47 will be with a full interchange there.

I think the full interchange will mainly impact IL-47 on the north side of the interchange.  Since it's more or less a diagonal junction, people will mainly be going between the south and west approaches, and the north and east approaches.  People going between east and south will mainly use IL-56, and people going between west and north are relatively rare but already good to go with the way the interchange already is.  (This is the type of thing that's much easier to explain with a picture heh)

Main point-people coming from the westbound lanes on I-88 will mainly be accessing points north such as Elburn.  There will be some Waubonsee Community College traffic as well.

It'll definitely make IL-56 even more dead than it is right now for westbound traffic haha
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #629 on: May 14, 2018, 07:27:28 PM »

Personally, I am sort of glad it slowed down. My hope is that it actually would allow enough time to get some of the roadway infrastructure caught up. I am curious what the impact to IL 47 will be with a full interchange there.

I think the full interchange will mainly impact IL-47 on the north side of the interchange.  Since it's more or less a diagonal junction, people will mainly be going between the south and west approaches, and the north and east approaches.  People going between east and south will mainly use IL-56, and people going between west and north are relatively rare but already good to go with the way the interchange already is.  (This is the type of thing that's much easier to explain with a picture heh)

Main point-people coming from the westbound lanes on I-88 will mainly be accessing points north such as Elburn.  There will be some Waubonsee Community College traffic as well.

It'll definitely make IL-56 even more dead than it is right now for westbound traffic haha

And hopefully deprive Sugar Grove of their speed trap on IL-56.
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« Reply #630 on: June 04, 2018, 09:23:33 AM »

Personally, I am sort of glad it slowed down. My hope is that it actually would allow enough time to get some of the roadway infrastructure caught up. I am curious what the impact to IL 47 will be with a full interchange there.

I think the full interchange will mainly impact IL-47 on the north side of the interchange.  Since it's more or less a diagonal junction, people will mainly be going between the south and west approaches, and the north and east approaches.  People going between east and south will mainly use IL-56, and people going between west and north are relatively rare but already good to go with the way the interchange already is.  (This is the type of thing that's much easier to explain with a picture heh)

Main point-people coming from the westbound lanes on I-88 will mainly be accessing points north such as Elburn.  There will be some Waubonsee Community College traffic as well.

It'll definitely make IL-56 even more dead than it is right now for westbound traffic haha

And hopefully deprive Sugar Grove of their speed trap on IL-56.

You mean the empty squad car? I drove by it on Saturday and it's the same thing they did for the past 3 years. They leave an empty squad car to get people to slow down
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #631 on: June 08, 2018, 07:52:43 PM »

56 needs to be a posted 60 from 88 to 47 at the very least. They don't do it because of Golfview Dr but thats a RI-RO intersection.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #632 on: June 13, 2018, 10:43:44 AM »

294 reconstruction has begun, although this project is associated with I-490. Here is the redo of the North Ave/294 interchange, which includes a better intersection and a new southbound ramp via County Line Road.

However, nothing is being done about the eastbound North ave to northbound 294 ramp which is a major cause for jams. Have a feeling we'll see more when the overhaul plans are announced

https://www.illinoistollway.com/documents/20184/555754/2018-02_CentralTriState_NorthAveInterchange_OnePager.pdf/db12a23d-9b62-4d5e-b80e-344964315a25
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
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« Reply #635 on: June 14, 2018, 05:01:37 PM »

Ugh.  The conspirisheep at work ar just now saying that I-88 was named for hitler.
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« Reply #636 on: June 14, 2018, 05:13:38 PM »

Ugh.  The conspirisheep at work ar just now saying that I-88 was named for hitler.

Wait, what?
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« Reply #637 on: June 14, 2018, 09:34:54 PM »

Ugh.  The conspirisheep at work ar just now saying that I-88 was named for hitler.

Da faq!?!  IDOT & ISTHA got the number due in part to the year it was designated, 1988.
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« Reply #638 on: June 14, 2018, 10:47:16 PM »

Ugh.  The conspirisheep at work ar just now saying that I-88 was named for hitler.

Da faq!?!  IDOT & ISTHA got the number due in part to the year it was designated, 1988.

I thought the Hitler number was 18, anyway.
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« Reply #639 on: June 15, 2018, 08:57:29 AM »

Ugh.  The conspirisheep at work ar just now saying that I-88 was named for hitler.

Da faq!?!  IDOT & ISTHA got the number due in part to the year it was designated, 1988.

I thought the Hitler number was 18, anyway.

They say it's because H is the 8th letter, and HH stands for heil hitler.

Hell.  It could also stand for HH Holmes, widely credited for being the first serial killer in the US (I doubt that, but anyway,) who set up shop in the Englewood neighborhood of Chicago.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #641 on: June 15, 2018, 09:36:20 AM »

Ugh.  The conspirisheep at work ar just now saying that I-88 was named for hitler.

Da faq!?!  IDOT & ISTHA got the number due in part to the year it was designated, 1988.

I thought the Hitler number was 18, anyway.

They say it's because H is the 8th letter, and HH stands for heil hitler.

Hell.  It could also stand for HH Holmes, widely credited for being the first serial killer in the US (I doubt that, but anyway,) who set up shop in the Englewood neighborhood of Chicago.

Or it could be doubly lucky in China.
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« Reply #642 on: June 17, 2018, 11:10:10 PM »

The 2019 Road Atlas no longer shows the proposed 490. Does this mean the proposal is dead. I think it's a bit overkill myself to connect the Elgin O Hare to both 90 and 294. Pick one or the other but really both?
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« Reply #643 on: June 18, 2018, 12:25:08 AM »

The 2019 Road Atlas no longer shows the proposed 490. Does this mean the proposal is dead. I think it's a bit overkill myself to connect the Elgin O Hare to both 90 and 294. Pick one or the other but really both?

Far from it, and if anything, the Tollway and CP Railroad made a major breakthrough this week, so is pretty much all but a done deal now. Believe me, the I-490 tollway will be a major godsend for those traveling that direction, not to mention it will relieve some bad congestion at I-90 and I-294 by diverting some of that traffic, particularly from I-294 NB to I-90 WB and I-90 EB to I-294 SB. I am not too sure why the Road Atlas no longer shows this, but it is alive and well.
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« Reply #644 on: June 18, 2018, 10:53:57 AM »

The 2019 Road Atlas no longer shows the proposed 490. Does this mean the proposal is dead. I think it's a bit overkill myself to connect the Elgin O Hare to both 90 and 294. Pick one or the other but really both?

Far from it, and if anything, the Tollway and CP Railroad made a major breakthrough this week, so is pretty much all but a done deal now. Believe me, the I-490 tollway will be a major godsend for those traveling that direction, not to mention it will relieve some bad congestion at I-90 and I-294 by diverting some of that traffic, particularly from I-294 NB to I-90 WB and I-90 EB to I-294 SB. I am not too sure why the Road Atlas no longer shows this, but it is alive and well.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #645 on: June 18, 2018, 11:28:58 AM »

The 2019 Road Atlas no longer shows the proposed 490. Does this mean the proposal is dead. I think it's a bit overkill myself to connect the Elgin O Hare to both 90 and 294. Pick one or the other but really both?

I'm not convinced it's necessary at all given the presence of I-290 and IL-83, but I don't think it make sense to connect IL-390 to I-90 or I-294.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #646 on: June 18, 2018, 03:32:14 PM »

The 2019 Road Atlas no longer shows the proposed 490. Does this mean the proposal is dead. I think it's a bit overkill myself to connect the Elgin O Hare to both 90 and 294. Pick one or the other but really both?

I'm not convinced it's necessary at all given the presence of I-290 and IL-83, but I don't think it make sense to connect IL-390 to I-90 or I-294.

If completed first, this will allow for a total rebuild on the clusterfuck we call the north Tri-State to outbound Ike Extension ramp.
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« Reply #647 on: June 18, 2018, 08:44:03 PM »

The 2019 Road Atlas no longer shows the proposed 490. Does this mean the proposal is dead. I think it's a bit overkill myself to connect the Elgin O Hare to both 90 and 294. Pick one or the other but really both?

I'm not convinced it's necessary at all given the presence of I-290 and IL-83, but I don't think it make sense to connect IL-390 to I-90 or I-294.

IL 83 can get ugly during the afternoon rush hour at some of the stoplights.  I-290 has issues at the IL 83 interchange.
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« Reply #648 on: June 18, 2018, 09:35:32 PM »

The 2019 Road Atlas no longer shows the proposed 490. Does this mean the proposal is dead. I think it's a bit overkill myself to connect the Elgin O Hare to both 90 and 294. Pick one or the other but really both?

I'm not convinced it's necessary at all given the presence of I-290 and IL-83, but I don't think it make sense to connect IL-390 to I-90 or I-294.

IL 83 can get ugly during the afternoon rush hour at some of the stoplights.  I-290 has issues at the IL 83 interchange.

If anything, they would be wise to finish I-490 and then rebuild the mess at I-290/294. The combination of all of that will only help that whole area.
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« Reply #649 on: June 19, 2018, 07:49:33 AM »

The 2019 Road Atlas no longer shows the proposed 490. Does this mean the proposal is dead. I think it's a bit overkill myself to connect the Elgin O Hare to both 90 and 294. Pick one or the other but really both?

I'm not convinced it's necessary at all given the presence of I-290 and IL-83, but I don't think it make sense to connect IL-390 to I-90 or I-294.

If completed first, this will allow for a total rebuild on the clusterfuck we call the north Tri-State to outbound Ike Extension ramp.

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