Pennsylvania

[Gnutella]

So, do we have any tangible results from the gas tax hie yet, other the the SoBeltway work?

Some of the projects that are now proceeding include, but are not limited to:


- Reconstruction and widening of a four-mile segment of U.S. 22 near Allentown.

- Upgrading 10 miles of U.S. 222 in Berks County on both sides of the Kutztown Bypass.

- Reconstruction of a seven-mile segment of the West Shore Bypass (U.S. 422) near Reading.

- Reconstruction and widening of a four-mile segment of I-80 near Stroudsburg.


And that's just in a small section of eastern Pennsylvania.

[Alps]

So, do we have any tangible results from the gas tax hie yet, other the the SoBeltway work?

Some of the projects that are now proceeding include, but are not limited to:


- Reconstruction and widening of a four-mile segment of U.S. 22 near Allentown.

- Upgrading 10 miles of U.S. 222 in Berks County on both sides of the Kutztown Bypass.

- Reconstruction of a seven-mile segment of the West Shore Bypass (U.S. 422) near Reading.

- Reconstruction and widening of a four-mile segment of I-80 near Stroudsburg.


And that's just in a small section of eastern Pennsylvania.

222 is still going to have roundabouts, so it's stupid.

[froggie]

222 is still going to have roundabouts, so it's stupid.

As long as it has 4 lanes, I'll take the roundabouts...

[ARMOURERERIC]

They are also putting a roundabout at US 19 and PA 97 south of Waterford

[briantroutman]

Using roundabouts for a corridor with heavy truck traffic like 222 seems ludicrous.

[Mr_Northside]

So, do we have any tangible results from the gas tax hie yet, other the the SoBeltway work?

While there may be some flashier "big-ticket" projects going on state-wide, the increases are mostly to try and keep up with the maintenance of what's already there.

[CentralPAGal]

Work has started to repave and widen (to 6 lanes) the full length of I-283 near Harrisburg.

http://lancasteronline.com/news/local/i--roadwork-around-harrisburg-beginning-sunday/article_0378cff0-cb09-11e3-b6f8-0017a43b2370.html

[jemacedo9]

I-283 is not getting widened...just repaved...  I-83 (not I-283) is eventually going to be widened to 6 lanes between the Susquehanna River and I-81 over the next 10 years.

[Gnutella]

Work has started to repave and widen (to 6 lanes) the full length of I-283 near Harrisburg.

http://lancasteronline.com/news/local/i--roadwork-around-harrisburg-beginning-sunday/article_0378cff0-cb09-11e3-b6f8-0017a43b2370.html

Good to see at least one urban Interstate in Pennsylvania getting ready to be upgraded to modern standards (I-83).

[ARMOURERERIC]

A lame, poorly written article about upcoming I-70 improvements.
http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/5870537-74/washington-walkush-highway#axzz32ATtK5iE

[jpi]

And with construction on I-83 in the York-Harrisburg area to be ramping up in the next few years I am considering hosting a central PA road meet to start in York and go from there. :-)

[cpzilliacus]

And with construction on I-83 in the York-Harrisburg area to be ramping up in the next few years I am considering hosting a central PA road meet to start in York and go from there. :-)

But knowing PennDOT, after the construction is complete, the condition of I-83 will be just as substandard, just as unsafe as it is now. 

[ixnay]

Work has started to repave and widen (to 6 lanes) the full length of I-283 near Harrisburg.

http://lancasteronline.com/news/local/i--roadwork-around-harrisburg-beginning-sunday/article_0378cff0-cb09-11e3-b6f8-0017a43b2370.html

The article mentions a coming "Redesigning and reconstructing (of) the (I-83/I-283/U.S. 322) Eisenhower interchange" in the next decade.  I assume that will mean new ramp patterns when the project is completed, not unlike, say, the I-95/DE 1 and 7 interchange recently reconfigured in Delaware.

ixnay

[jpi]

Yes, it is a MUCH needed projected, the interchange is still in it's original  early 70's configuration and when it goes full swing I would like to plan a road meet around this though it is at least a decade out and I am still planning a York based road meet when the Mt Rose AVE interchange reconstruction ramps up in the enxt 2 years. :-)

[Gnutella]

One thing PennDOT has been doing that I like is making Interstates the primary alignments through elaborate interchanges despite changing direction. They did it with the I-81/I-84 interchange in Scranton, and the I-99/U.S. 322 East interchange in State College, and they appear to have designed it into the new I-83/I-283 interchange in Harrisburg, with the northbound and southbound lanes staying next to each other even as they change direction through the interchange. This actually gives PennDOT a leg up on other states in the Northeast and Midwest that have lots of highways that exit themselves.

[ixnay]

Why is I-70's speed limit only 55 mph between the MD line and Breezewood?  Breezewood isn't *that* close, and it's not as dense with interchanges as is 70 between "Little Washington" and New Stanton.

ixnay

[ixnay]

One thing PennDOT has been doing that I like is making Interstates the primary alignments through elaborate interchanges despite changing direction. They did it with the I-81/I-84 interchange in Scranton, and the I-99/U.S. 322 East interchange in State College, and they appear to have designed it into the new I-83/I-283 interchange in Harrisburg, with the northbound and southbound lanes staying next to each other even as they change direction through the interchange. This actually gives PennDOT a leg up on other states in the Northeast and Midwest that have lots of highways that exit themselves.

I had to think when guessing, but after zooming back, that looks like I-55 barely avoiding Bloomington/Normal, IL, particularly on the SW side where 55 veers left to multiplex with I-74 for a few miles.

ixnay

[CentralPAGal]

One thing PennDOT has been doing that I like is making Interstates the primary alignments through elaborate interchanges despite changing direction. They did it with the I-81/I-84 interchange in Scranton, and the I-99/U.S. 322 East interchange in State College, and they appear to have designed it into the new I-83/I-283 interchange in Harrisburg, with the northbound and southbound lanes staying next to each other even as they change direction through the interchange. This actually gives PennDOT a leg up on other states in the Northeast and Midwest that have lots of highways that exit themselves.

I had to think when guessing, but after zooming back, that looks like I-55 barely avoiding Bloomington/Normal, IL, particularly on the SW side where 55 veers left to multiplex with I-74 for a few miles.

ixnay

At this point though, I believe it still remains to be seen if that will be the final design for the project. And it'll be 10 years before anything happens, so there's a lot of time for things to change. The 581 project looks nothing like the initial concept (due to cost)

[froggie]

Why is I-70's speed limit only 55 mph between the MD line and Breezewood?  Breezewood isn't *that* close, and it's not as dense with interchanges as is 70 between "Little Washington" and New Stanton.

Substandard design, especially on the ridge climb and a couple of the interchanges.  That plus the PennDOT tendency to undersign speed limits period.

[Duke87]

Why is I-70's speed limit only 55 mph between the MD line and Breezewood?

So it can be conveniently used for revenue enhancement.

Something which PA usually doesn't do a lot of compared to some other states, but that stretch of road is bad.

[roadman65]

Why is I-70's speed limit only 55 mph between the MD line and Breezewood?

So it can be conveniently used for revenue enhancement.

Something which PA usually doesn't do a lot of compared to some other states, but that stretch of road is bad.

Georgia also does with US 19 only being 55 mph from Florida to Thomasville.  Where the 65 mph maximum is on all other 4 lane stretches of US 19, including Florida nearby south of the state line, this section remains at 55 for some unknown reason.

I believe it is to get speeding fines as  at 65 mph I am sure it caused many areas in that state to lose money.

[Mergingtraffic]

Anybody know if this classic is still there?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.020606,-75.153683,3a,75y,263.95h,84.2t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHUYrDzFv1GyGRuVnLT2Z0g!2e0

or the PA-320 signs on the ramp from US-1 SB?

[Alps]

Anybody know if this classic is still there?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.020606,-75.153683,3a,75y,263.95h,84.2t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHUYrDzFv1GyGRuVnLT2Z0g!2e0

or the PA-320 signs on the ramp from US-1 SB?

Pretty sure it lives.

[ixnay]

Anybody know if this classic is still there?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.020606,-75.153683,3a,75y,263.95h,84.2t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHUYrDzFv1GyGRuVnLT2Z0g!2e0

or the PA-320 signs on the ramp from US-1 SB?

Pretty sure it lives.

PA 320 does have an interchange with U.S. 1 similar to what doofy linked, but it's in Delaware County.  The street view doofy linked is in North Philadelphia (notice the California-style U.S. shield on the overhead sign).

ixnay

[DeaconG]

Anybody know if this classic is still there?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.020606,-75.153683,3a,75y,263.95h,84.2t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHUYrDzFv1GyGRuVnLT2Z0g!2e0

or the PA-320 signs on the ramp from US-1 SB?

Pretty sure it lives.

PA 320 does have an interchange similar to what doofy linked, but it's in Delaware County.  The street view doofy linked is in North Philadelphia (notice the California-style U.S. shield on the overhead sign).

ixnay

That sign at the Roosevelt Expressway must be 50 years old, I remember seeing it as a little boy in the 60s...