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I-490 (Western O'Hare Bypass)

Started by JoePCool14, December 02, 2019, 03:22:19 PM

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Quote from: ChiMilNet on March 03, 2021, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on March 03, 2021, 03:08:29 PM
https://icc.illinois.gov/rail-safety/crossing/174087Y/inventory
CONVERT TO A GRADE SEP BY NOV 2021 AS PART OF O'HARE WESTERN BYPASS

So I wonder if their plan is to wait for the track crossing to be built and go from there? I thought I recalled it would be the other way around and the connection from I-90 to IL-390 would be completed first, then the connection to I-294.

My understanding is the grade separation on IL 72/Touhy is separate from the main I-490 contracts, with Cook County being the lead on the grade separation.

EDIT:  Going through the ICC dockets, there is a partial plan set in there for the IL 72 project.  https://icc.illinois.gov/docket/T2016-0042/documents/250422/files/441812.pdf


ChiMilNet

Quote from: Revive 755 on March 03, 2021, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on March 03, 2021, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on March 03, 2021, 03:08:29 PM
https://icc.illinois.gov/rail-safety/crossing/174087Y/inventory
CONVERT TO A GRADE SEP BY NOV 2021 AS PART OF O'HARE WESTERN BYPASS

So I wonder if their plan is to wait for the track crossing to be built and go from there? I thought I recalled it would be the other way around and the connection from I-90 to IL-390 would be completed first, then the connection to I-294.

My understanding is the grade separation on IL 72/Touhy is separate from the main I-490 contracts, with Cook County being the lead on the grade separation.

EDIT:  Going through the ICC dockets, there is a partial plan set in there for the IL 72 project.  https://icc.illinois.gov/docket/T2016-0042/documents/250422/files/441812.pdf

That is probably the best info we're going to get on that. Cook County may update their project information once a year, if that.

ET21

Quote from: ChiMilNet on March 03, 2021, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on March 03, 2021, 03:08:29 PM
https://icc.illinois.gov/rail-safety/crossing/174087Y/inventory
CONVERT TO A GRADE SEP BY NOV 2021 AS PART OF O'HARE WESTERN BYPASS

So I wonder if their plan is to wait for the track crossing to be built and go from there? I thought I recalled it would be the other way around and the connection from I-90 to IL-390 would be completed first, then the connection to I-294.

The IL-390 ramps are pretty much ready to go, much of the ground ramps and some bridges were done last year. The I-294 ramps are expected to begin getting built this summer with the continued expansion work on the St. Charles to O'Hare Oasis section
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Quote from: lstone19 on June 27, 2020, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: ChiMilNet on June 27, 2020, 05:20:50 PM
That said, there is precedent for child interstates not connecting to their parents (see the x78s in NYC).

And I-280, I-380, and I-980 in the San Francisco Bay area, I-105 in Los Angeles, and I-990 in Buffalo.
Also, I-175 and I-375 in Tampa/St. Petersburg, I-795 in Baltimore and I-585 in Spartanburg.
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JoePCool14

Massive bump on this thread.

We drove the Tri-State past O'Hare yesterday. Bridge supports are finally going up for the future ramps for I-490. I'm very curious how they have this all designed. Whenever we drive through there, it feels like there's barely any room.

Anyone else have any other news or photos?

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ChiMilNet

Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 11, 2021, 12:01:46 PM
Massive bump on this thread.

We drove the Tri-State past O'Hare yesterday. Bridge supports are finally going up for the future ramps for I-490. I'm very curious how they have this all designed. Whenever we drive through there, it feels like there's barely any room.

Anyone else have any other news or photos?

The project page here has some helpful information with that. https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/490/294-interchange-project

US20IL64

The industrial area west of O'Hare was losing tenants and business due to traffic, so the new 490/390 is a big help. Also, the train overpass on Irving was long overdue.

Posted elsewhere, but also hope 490 relieves truck traffic from the "Woodfield Cloverleaf".


lstone19

Quote from: US20IL64 on September 07, 2021, 10:41:33 PM
Posted elsewhere, but also hope 490 relieves truck traffic from the "Woodfield Cloverleaf".
Doubtful. A local newspaper report a few months ago implied the toll for using 490 will be more than the toll for going 294/90 via east of O'Hare (20 cents per mile (same as IL-390) for I-Pass cars).

If people use I-290 to avoid a toll, doubtful they'll go an even more expensive route even if it's a couple of minutes faster than going east of O'Hare. The backups at Woodfield and at I-290/I-294 say they value their money far more than their time.


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Joe The Dragon

Quote from: lstone19 on September 07, 2021, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: US20IL64 on September 07, 2021, 10:41:33 PM
Posted elsewhere, but also hope 490 relieves truck traffic from the "Woodfield Cloverleaf".
Doubtful. A local newspaper report a few months ago implied the toll for using 490 will be more than the toll for going 294/90 via east of O'Hare (20 cents per mile (same as IL-390) for I-Pass cars).

If people use I-290 to avoid a toll, doubtful they'll go an even more expensive route even if it's a couple of minutes faster than going east of O'Hare. The backups at Woodfield and at I-290/I-294 say they value their money far more than their time.


iPad
well with AET other roads can have there tolling rates changes / add more toll points.

The Ghostbuster

The Street View image at the future Interstate 90/490 interchange shows construction underway: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0145987,-87.9258552,3a,75y,114.78h,77.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5zMQRVKLf1rFwPsRXbsPOA!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192. However, the Satellite Map still shows part of the old Des Plaines Service Area: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0144674,-87.9262149,992m/data=!3m1!1e3. Hopefully this will soon be updated, though I am not holding my breath.

SSOWorld

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 08, 2021, 12:36:53 PM
The Street View image at the future Interstate 90/490 interchange shows construction underway: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0145987,-87.9258552,3a,75y,114.78h,77.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5zMQRVKLf1rFwPsRXbsPOA!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192. However, the Satellite Map still shows part of the old Des Plaines Service Area: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0144674,-87.9262149,992m/data=!3m1!1e3. Hopefully this will soon be updated, though I am not holding my breath.
Dude, the bridges are done.  They're waiting with making the roads until the rest of the route is started
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Quote from: SSOWorld on September 09, 2021, 09:03:11 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 08, 2021, 12:36:53 PM
The Street View image at the future Interstate 90/490 interchange shows construction underway: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0145987,-87.9258552,3a,75y,114.78h,77.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5zMQRVKLf1rFwPsRXbsPOA!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192. However, the Satellite Map still shows part of the old Des Plaines Service Area: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0144674,-87.9262149,992m/data=!3m1!1e3. Hopefully this will soon be updated, though I am not holding my breath.
Dude, the bridges are done.  They're waiting with making the roads until the rest of the route is started

And, as I type, dirt is moving on the rest of I-490.
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SSOWorld

Quote from: Brandon on September 10, 2021, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on September 09, 2021, 09:03:11 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on September 08, 2021, 12:36:53 PM
The Street View image at the future Interstate 90/490 interchange shows construction underway: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0145987,-87.9258552,3a,75y,114.78h,77.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5zMQRVKLf1rFwPsRXbsPOA!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192. However, the Satellite Map still shows part of the old Des Plaines Service Area: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0144674,-87.9262149,992m/data=!3m1!1e3. Hopefully this will soon be updated, though I am not holding my breath.
Dude, the bridges are done.  They're waiting with making the roads until the rest of the route is started

And, as I type, dirt is moving on the rest of I-490.
With bridge pillars rising around I-294 and Mt Prospect Road where I-490 will connect to it.
Scott O.

Not all who wander are lost...
Ah, the open skies, wind at my back, warm sun on my... wait, where the hell am I?!
As a matter of fact, I do own the road.
Raise your what?

Wisconsin - out-multiplexing your state since 1918.

edwaleni

If someone driving or passing by could grab some pictures of the work on I-490, that would be appreciated.

Unless someone knows where a webcam service is available.

hobsini2

Quote from: edwaleni on September 11, 2021, 04:14:37 PM
If someone driving or passing by could grab some pictures of the work on I-490, that would be appreciated.

Unless someone knows where a webcam service is available.
Best I could do is pull the live camera feed from the Tollway's website.
https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/490/294-interchange-project
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Henry

I'm glad to hear that the progress is speeding up. And from what I hear, it's going to be a great alternative to those who wish to avoid the airport traffic.
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US20IL64

I-490 and 390 are fast tracked, while eastern 290, the Ike, is still a "bucolic" and "historic" 6 lane X-way, with left exits, [pure sarcasm]  :crazy:

KeithE4Phx

Quote from: US20IL64 on September 13, 2021, 08:26:02 PM
I-490 and 390 are fast tracked, while eastern 290, the Ike, is still a "bucolic" and "historic" 6 lane X-way, with left exits, [pure sarcasm]  :crazy:

That's the first time I've heard the Eisenhower Expressway called "bucolic."  :wow:  :)
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Joe The Dragon

Quote from: US20IL64 on September 13, 2021, 08:26:02 PM
I-490 and 390 are fast tracked, while eastern 290, the Ike, is still a "bucolic" and "historic" 6 lane X-way, with left exits, [pure sarcasm]  :crazy:
I-490 and 390 are tolled 290 is free. At least 290 is getting some upgrades at I-294 / I-88

ChiMilNet

Quote from: Joe The Dragon on September 13, 2021, 11:25:58 PM
Quote from: US20IL64 on September 13, 2021, 08:26:02 PM
I-490 and 390 are fast tracked, while eastern 290, the Ike, is still a "bucolic" and "historic" 6 lane X-way, with left exits, [pure sarcasm]  :crazy:
I-490 and 390 are tolled 290 is free. At least 290 is getting some upgrades at I-294 / I-88
For which all of the 290 improvements are being led and financed by the Tollway... because... Illinois  :-/

US20IL64

Ike rebuild is dragging on due to fingers in the pie, Oak Park wants ''No Build'', and city wants more transit, like dedicated bus lanes,

I meant as joke in that Eisenhower looks like it did in 1960, so "bucolic"  :-D :banghead:

Rick Powell

Quote from: US20IL64 on September 14, 2021, 12:33:59 AM
Ike rebuild is dragging on due to fingers in the pie, Oak Park wants ''No Build'', and city wants more transit, like dedicated bus lanes,
Oak Park was actually the first municipality along the corridor to sign a Letter of Intent agreeing to the cost share of the various improvements outlined in the study completed in 2017. The City of Chicago doesn't maintain the expressway system within city limits, like it does state and county arterial and collector roads, and the setup for additional lanes would actually be a boon for bus transit. CTA rapid transit would also get a bunch of improvements from the project. The issue now is largely the sticker price.

US20IL64

https://www.eisenhowerexpressway.com/
Check here, funding is held up.

Regarding Oak Park, it was a resident who commented in Trib, "don't want to make it easier for people in Naperville to drive to Loop." And one wanted to "landmark" the left hand ramps, to keep 290 narrow. But, if their City gov't is helping, good for them.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: US20IL64 on September 14, 2021, 05:30:28 PM
https://www.eisenhowerexpressway.com/
Check here, funding is held up.

Regarding Oak Park, it was a resident who commented in Trib, "don't want to make it easier for people in Naperville to drive to Loop." And one wanted to "landmark" the left hand ramps, to keep 290 narrow. But, if their City gov't is helping, good for them.

As a former Oak Park resident, that comment doesn't surprise me one bit.
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