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Title: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 06, 2020, 08:12:42 AM
The weirdest ones I've seen are on the I-495 bridge in Wilmington Delaware, and the US 202 bridge between NJ and PA.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: Henry on March 06, 2020, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on March 06, 2020, 08:12:42 AM
The weirdest ones I've seen are on the I-495 bridge in Wilmington Delaware, and the US 202 bridge between NJ and PA.

You're most likely referring to these:

I-495 in Wilmington -- https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7245239,-75.5346276,3a,75y,44.47h,101.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smEW6Ir9eZbYNK8K81CdxjA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

US 202 over the Delaware -- https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3797376,-74.9541964,3a,75y,356.03h,95.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAsk00EYOGij3DO3S399vRA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I nominate these unusual-looking towers on the Chicago Skyway:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7265325,-87.5533252,3a,75y,338.69h,96.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sG8tsLUDruyAFToTqb6Md9Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 06, 2020, 09:10:04 AM
These at the Hoover Dam.  Per the tour I was on, this is one of only two places in the US where they're intentionally built on an angle.  https://goo.gl/maps/ZFSEMVd5MQG3XtX67
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: Mr_Northside on March 06, 2020, 10:00:48 AM
I'd probably go with the term "unique" over "weird" - But I don't think I've ever seen a design quite like some Duquesne Light transmission lines scattered about their territory.

https://goo.gl/maps/GSScn9JcNDmdYHwM7

Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 06, 2020, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: Henry on March 06, 2020, 09:05:22 AM
I nominate these unusual-looking towers on the Chicago Skyway:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7265325,-87.5533252,3a,75y,338.69h,96.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sG8tsLUDruyAFToTqb6Md9Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
The only thing making those unique is the extra set of wires hanging from one of the "brackets" (I don't think that's the name for what they're hanging from, but you should get the idea.).

LILCO installed some of those along the north side of the Long Island Expressway back in the 1970's, and some other power company in the Tampa Bay Metro Area installed a few of those in Hernando County a few years ago or so.

This is the one in Medford, New York that LILCO installed:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8280007,-72.9943041,3a,75y,269.48h,94.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7uOgxe-6xLvWKkv71EDAwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8280007,-72.9943041,3a,75y,269.48h,94.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7uOgxe-6xLvWKkv71EDAwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

And these are the ones in Spring Hill, Florida:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5276974,-82.4918051,3a,75y,275.86h,84.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIMm5AF4iEorJjEqldKWYLA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5276974,-82.4918051,3a,75y,275.86h,84.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIMm5AF4iEorJjEqldKWYLA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)

Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: catch22 on March 06, 2020, 12:16:46 PM
These are somewhat unusual.  When newer, they were a much more vivid blue and yellow but are now somewhat faded.  I've never seen any quite like these, which run near the Ohio Turnpike south of Cleveland.

https://goo.gl/maps/gMVfFfySWu9Hdw4EA
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: stevashe on March 06, 2020, 12:44:03 PM
The weirdest I can remember off the top of my head would probably be these next to the I-5 Ship Canal Bridge in Seattle: https://goo.gl/maps/edzAghoaiTe5G8Jy9

They're not that weird though.

Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.

I think I've seen something like that a few times, usually when the lines are crossing water.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 06, 2020, 12:53:43 PM
Actually, I have one that's even weirder: the ones you see going over the railroad on the GSP, north of exit 105.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: StogieGuy7 on March 06, 2020, 12:55:50 PM
Technically, they're called "pylons" by the electricity transmission industry.  Old times colloquially referred to them as "iron men".  The newer ones tend to have solid trunks and arms, while the older ones look more like an erector set.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 06, 2020, 01:21:38 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on March 06, 2020, 12:55:50 PM
Technically, they're called "pylons" by the electricity transmission industry.  Old times colloquially referred to them as "iron men".  The newer ones tend to have solid trunks and arms, while the older ones look more like an erector set.
Have you ever seen "Ed Wood?" There's a scene where Johnny Depp is driving Martin Landau to his ordinary suburban house, and the big pylons in the background looked way too new for the 1940's and 1950's.


There's another variety that I like to call "Indian Man" Power Lines, because they remind me of what we were all taught about Native American cave drawings back when we were kids in school.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FL_SR_50_Power_Lines-Sunshine_Grove.jpg

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5337794,-82.4993665,3a,75y,19.9h,104.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svLvLL_bHLK9fRunmohMbrA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en


This name is only for the one up front. Those on the left, don't qualify.

I also used to think that LILCO/LIPA should have some of these for their larger right-of-ways, until I saw news footage of them mangled in the Ice Storm of 1998 in Upstate New York and Quebec.

Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 06, 2020, 01:35:24 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on March 06, 2020, 12:55:50 PM
Technically, they're called "pylons" by the electricity transmission industry.  Old times colloquially referred to them as "iron men".  The newer ones tend to have solid trunks and arms, while the older ones look more like an erector set.
There's a subclass of even older ones, that are just made of wood
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 06, 2020, 02:56:20 PM
Changing the thread title to make it more general about electric towers; the whole topic merits a thread in itself. Also does this even belong in "off-topic"? I know it's not about highways, but is there another thread about this thing?
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: lepidopteran on March 06, 2020, 05:35:00 PM
Along I-4, presumably on Disney property, is a power line structure in the shape of Mickey Mouse (https://goo.gl/maps/otD1sAEp8K6vyWbd9)!  Honest.

Florida is one of the few places where (some older) double-circuit structures have the two circuits one atop the other, rather than side-by-side.  There are also a lot made of concrete, apparently because of the rainfall in the area, and perhaps resilience against hurricanes.  Older poles have a square cross-section; the newer ones appear to be round.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: -- US 175 -- on March 06, 2020, 05:59:24 PM
Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: -- US 175 -- on March 06, 2020, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.

I've seen those before.  They are warnings to aircraft if they are near/adjacent to an airfield or helipad.  IDK if they are used in newer installations these days as much as in the past.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 06, 2020, 11:12:04 PM
Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.

Here are some balls along a line north of the small Auburn Airport: Google Street View. (https://goo.gl/maps/L3K3bRdvEzFpGgjt6)
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 06, 2020, 11:33:21 PM
Here's an aircraft warning ball with appearantly a built-in warning light.  I wasn't there at night, so I don't know.  I also don't know if the light is powered by induction from the line, though that would make more sense than having somebody go and change a battery.  This is on the John Wayne Trail at Iron Horse State Park, southeast of Ellensburg, Washington near the Boylston Tunnel.  The tunnel is closed to trail users, so we have to walk on top of the flat rock that the railroad used to tunnel under, and thus come eye to eye with the beacon over the trail.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49628596643_9c1037b819_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iBvwKn)
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 06, 2020, 11:47:21 PM
Another unusual tower: dropping lines down to a substation. (https://goo.gl/maps/NjBiWRm474w1BWNUA)  It seems top heavy, but that's how it needs to work.

And on Terminator II, I saw this array (https://goo.gl/maps/Dj8eWHo6ee9fp6uV9), and worried that the helicopter might crash into it.  The industrial lot that they crash the fence to get into is actually a power plant that supplies these lines.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 07, 2020, 09:07:18 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on March 06, 2020, 02:56:20 PM
Changing the thread title to make it more general about electric towers; the whole topic merits a thread in itself. Also does this even belong in "off-topic"? I know it's not about highways, but is there another thread about this thing?

Off-topic is the catchall. It's absolutely appropriate for this subject.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: Stephane Dumas on March 07, 2020, 09:43:06 AM
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on March 06, 2020, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.

I've seen those before.  They are warnings to aircraft if they are near/adjacent to an airfield or helipad.  IDK if they are used in newer installations these days as much as in the past.


Hydro-Quebec also used red and white pylons when some important power lines cross a river like these 2 735 kv lines near Levis. https://goo.gl/maps/64QQdg5GBm4FmtXZ9
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:17:28 AM
Quote from: lepidopteran on March 06, 2020, 05:35:00 PM
Along I-4, presumably on Disney property, is a power line structure in the shape of Mickey Mouse (https://goo.gl/maps/otD1sAEp8K6vyWbd9)!  Honest.

Florida is one of the few places where (some older) double-circuit structures have the two circuits one atop the other, rather than side-by-side.  There are also a lot made of concrete, apparently because of the rainfall in the area, and perhaps resilience against hurricanes.  Older poles have a square cross-section; the newer ones appear to be round.

That has been there for ages.  It was there long before Celebration was built and was an icon.  Also the concrete poles are used on many span wire traffic lights and were the norm until the 1990's when each of the counties decided to go mast arms or use fat metal poles. 
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 07, 2020, 10:17:47 AM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on March 07, 2020, 09:43:06 AM
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on March 06, 2020, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.

I've seen those before.  They are warnings to aircraft if they are near/adjacent to an airfield or helipad.  IDK if they are used in newer installations these days as much as in the past.


Hydro-Quebec also used red and white pylons when some important power lines cross a river like these 2 735 kv lines near Levis. https://goo.gl/maps/64QQdg5GBm4FmtXZ9
Those don't look too unusual... at least for someone who's been to China many times and seen red and white pylons EVERYWHERE.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:20:45 AM
There used to be one in Hardyson, NJ where a set of power lines climb the hill next to the Route 23 and 517 intersection that was turned 45 degrees for some reason.  It was the first tower from the substation and it struck me odd it was turned.

Edit: Its still there https://goo.gl/maps/trz37NwySqFSee2w9
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 07, 2020, 10:25:28 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:20:45 AM
There used to be one in Hardyson, NJ where a set of power lines climb the hill next to the Route 23 and 517 intersection that was turned 45 degrees for some reason.  It was the first tower from the substation and it struck me odd it was turned.

Edit: Its still there https://goo.gl/maps/trz37NwySqFSee2w9
Imo the "turning" aspect of these pylons isn't as weird to me as the bizarre shape of the ones in front.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:32:53 AM
There was a substation there at one time which is why.  Considering on the other side of Route 23 the wires become less heavy duty if you noticed.  It might be to convert the wiring, but what gets me is a transformer is needed to reduce voltage that is not there.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: US 89 on March 07, 2020, 11:01:11 PM
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on March 06, 2020, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.

I've seen those before.  They are warnings to aircraft if they are near/adjacent to an airfield or helipad.  IDK if they are used in newer installations these days as much as in the past.

They don't even necessarily have to be close to an airport. Ever since I can remember, these red balls have been on the power lines crossing I-80 (https://goo.gl/maps/7CGrYqSm51Vw7awG7) in Parleys Canyon, Utah - nowhere near any sort of landing facility.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: jmd41280 on March 07, 2020, 11:30:18 PM
I always refer to this one as the Batman Tower...

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3779643,-79.8459924,3a,15y,47.85h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJdIHd5Iety4NjhyiSoa5mg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3779643,-79.8459924,3a,15y,47.85h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJdIHd5Iety4NjhyiSoa5mg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: thenetwork on March 08, 2020, 10:42:21 AM
I assume there are specific names for the different styles/shapes of these pylons/transmission towers.  Where would one find such a list?
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: -- US 175 -- on March 08, 2020, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on March 08, 2020, 10:42:21 AM
I assume there are specific names for the different styles/shapes of these pylons/transmission towers.  Where would one find such a list?

I did a Google search, and there are surprisingly several sites that come up regarding types, shapes, etc.  Here's the search result link:
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=NjFlXqeFKY6ItQX_tIzIBA&q=electric+transmission+tower+types&oq=electric+transmission+tower+types&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-hp.3...4350.28579..29600...0.0..0.204.4369.6j26j1......0....1.......8..41j0i131j0j46j46i131i275j46i131j0i22i30.qMKlmR-laF0
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: SectorZ on March 08, 2020, 06:24:35 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/zy1nEb89Ru69JmFk7

I've lived near this almost my entire life. Nothing is weird to me anymore in this department, given there are four sets of pylons (totaling 14 among them) spraying out from this.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: roadman65 on March 10, 2020, 11:56:24 PM
Why is it where wires up high on a pole can skip the poles that the wires under them?   Excuse me but how does height change the distance a wire can be supported?  If it works on top so could it on the bottom.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: lepidopteran on March 11, 2020, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 10, 2020, 11:56:24 PM
Why is it where wires up high on a pole can skip the poles that the wires under them?
The wires can only sag so much, so the higher the wires are, the longer the possible span between poles.

More importantly, you might ask why are there higher and lower wires in the first place?  This is because the higher-voltage wires need to kept further away from the ground and other wires to prevent arcing.  So the higher the voltage, the larger the insulators, thus more space needed higher up in the air.   Meanwhile, the lower-voltage distribution lines can be closer to the ground; many times these wires will be attached to the taller pylons, but with supplemental poles between them to reduce sagging.  Note that the sag height will vary with different temperatures, so they have to be designed with the warmest weather in mind.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 12, 2020, 08:10:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:17:28 AM
Quote from: lepidopteran on March 06, 2020, 05:35:00 PM
Along I-4, presumably on Disney property, is a power line structure in the shape of Mickey Mouse (https://goo.gl/maps/otD1sAEp8K6vyWbd9)!  Honest.

Florida is one of the few places where (some older) double-circuit structures have the two circuits one atop the other, rather than side-by-side.  There are also a lot made of concrete, apparently because of the rainfall in the area, and perhaps resilience against hurricanes.  Older poles have a square cross-section; the newer ones appear to be round.

That has been there for ages.  It was there long before Celebration was built and was an icon.  Also the concrete poles are used on many span wire traffic lights and were the norm until the 1990's when each of the counties decided to go mast arms or use fat metal poles. 
Yes, but you have to admit that a thread like this can't possibly exclude that one.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: adventurernumber1 on March 13, 2020, 10:30:50 PM
I have always been fascinated with transmission towers (electricity pylons) since I was a young child (as well as cell towers, as mentioned in the other thread).

Here is some transmission towers in my area that look a little odd, but for good reason: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7256541,-84.997994,3a,75y,4.12h,100.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suaoB6GMI7nSIgtVHftBq4w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The reason presumably being that they are carrying a lot of wires that would usually require more space for the towers, but since it is parallel to a small road, it all has to fit on very large, tall poles with a lot on each.




There's a couple of sets of unique transmission towers near (and on) Missionary Ridge in nearby Chattanooga, Tennessee:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0219257,-85.2415502,3a,40.7y,63.62h,105.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVvlhRWDsVTg6xtffGSSrKQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0262162,-85.2670166,3a,59.7y,256.89h,106.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMpFLvm1Syfc3m-FWJX-7HA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The poles are colored green in both cases, and the pole is in the shape of a "Y" on the first set.




I saw some unusual transmission towers doing street-view somewhere in Florida recently (in the past week), but I cannot remember where it was or how to find it (even after trying to find it for the past hour or so). Sadly I don't remember enough about it to describe what it looked like either, but perhaps I may stumble upon it again sometime soon.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 14, 2020, 10:15:39 PM
For number of wires check this out: Terminal Island, California. (https://goo.gl/maps/NeS5p585aPXcombW9)  I saw this in the movie Terminator 2, and worried that the helicopter might crash into it.  At the end of the freeway chase scene, the fence they crash through is actually a fence to the power generation plant that feeds these wires.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 21, 2020, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on March 14, 2020, 10:15:39 PM
For number of wires check this out: Terminal Island, California. (https://goo.gl/maps/NeS5p585aPXcombW9)  I saw this in the movie Terminator 2, and worried that the helicopter might crash into it.  At the end of the freeway chase scene, the fence they crash through is actually a fence to the power generation plant that feeds these wires.

There are more than a few places that have a large number of relatively low-voltage circuits similar to this in Southern California.  Here (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9164353,-118.396048,3a,75y,145.54h,91.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPV_CfwaAyRuWC3mKyoKmTA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one crossing CA-1 (Pacific Coast Highway) in El Segundo.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 22, 2020, 07:43:11 AM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 21, 2020, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on March 14, 2020, 10:15:39 PM
For number of wires check this out: Terminal Island, California. (https://goo.gl/maps/NeS5p585aPXcombW9)  I saw this in the movie Terminator 2, and worried that the helicopter might crash into it.  At the end of the freeway chase scene, the fence they crash through is actually a fence to the power generation plant that feeds these wires.

There are more than a few places that have a large number of relatively low-voltage circuits similar to this in Southern California.  Here (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9164353,-118.396048,3a,75y,145.54h,91.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPV_CfwaAyRuWC3mKyoKmTA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one crossing CA-1 (Pacific Coast Highway) in El Segundo.
Well, certainly never seen anything like this on the east coast.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: Henry on March 31, 2020, 11:48:39 AM
From the OpenStreetMap Wiki, these are the various types of pylons depicted.

One-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Einebenenmast.jpg

Two-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Two-level-150kv-800.jpg

Donau (two conductors on top and four on bottom):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_3503-donau-mast-400kv-800.jpg

Three-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Pgetower.jpg

Barrel (same as three-level, but with the middle arm being longer than the other two):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Power_lines_with_fog,_Milan.jpg

Asymmetric (one conductor on top, two on bottom):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Electricity_pylon_DSCI0402.jpg

Triangle (all three conductors on different levels):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Tower-lattice-60kv.jpg
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Steel_pole_400_Hermosa_Duhat_Balintawak_transmission_line.jpg

Flag (all three conductors on same side):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:60kv-angle-tower.jpg
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:FvfNLExPampanga2280_21.JPG

Donau/one-level (combination of Donau and one-level designs, with latter setup on bottom):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Tannenbaummast.jpg

Four-/Six-/Nine-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Pylon_Shenzhen.jpg

Delta:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Delta-150kv-800.jpg

Delta, two-/three-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Veldstelling_Uitermeer_002.JPG

Y-frame (variant of delta, but with no cross-arm for middle conductor):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_3501-ymast-400kv-800.jpg

X-frame (same as y-frame, but with second arm for carrying lower-voltage wires):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:400kv-x-frame.jpg

H-frame, one-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Tower-60kv-h.jpg

H-frame, two-/three-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Power-tower-h-frame_two-level.jpeg

Guyed H-frame:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Guyed-h-frame-tower.jpg

Portal, one-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:IMG_4875-portal-800.jpg

Portal, two-/three-level:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Powertower-wide01.png

Guyed V-frame:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Pylônes_près_de_Chapais04.JPG (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Pyl%C3%83%C2%B4nes_pr%C3%83%C2%A8s_de_Chapais04.JPG)

Bipole:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Wintrack-800.jpg

Monopolar:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Monopolar-400kv-800.jpg

Incomplete:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Incomplete-barrel-tower-800.jpg

Seven different types of towers are represented below.

Suspension (each conductor may have single vertical insulator or two diagonal insulators forming a V shape attached to its arm):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:French_power_tower_suspension.jpg

Anchor (each conductor has at least two horizontal insulators attached to its arm):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:FLMast-TK.jpg

Termination (each conductor has one horizontal insulator attached to its arm):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Endmast.jpg

Branch (usually with horizontal insulators for all conductors, and the second line may either continue or terminate):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Abzweigmast2.jpg

Transposing (at least two conductors switch positions):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Verdrillmast_Oberwoehr.jpg

Crossing:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:154_kV_Bosphorous_crossing_foto_5.jpg

Transition (same as termination, but conductors transition to underground cables):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Sindelfingen_Gesockelter_Mast_2007_by-RaBoe_03.jpg
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on March 06, 2020, 08:12:42 AM
The weirdest ones I've seen are on the I-495 bridge in Wilmington Delaware, and the US 202 bridge between NJ and PA.

Thanks for leading off this thread with a mention of a landmark on my trips from Del. Co., PA to points south or southwest of Wilmington in my adolescence and early adulthood, before I moved to MD.

I wonder if those towers were there before I-495 was built in the mid-seventies?

ixnay
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: Henry on March 06, 2020, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on March 06, 2020, 08:12:42 AM
The weirdest ones I've seen are on the I-495 bridge in Wilmington Delaware, and the US 202 bridge between NJ and PA.

You're most likely referring to these:

I-495 in Wilmington -- https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7245239,-75.5346276,3a,75y,44.47h,101.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smEW6Ir9eZbYNK8K81CdxjA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

See my previous post.

QuoteUS 202 over the Delaware -- https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3797376,-74.9541964,3a,75y,356.03h,95.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAsk00EYOGij3DO3S399vRA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Unobtrusive, and IMO fitting into the rural setting.  The towers whose lines US 1 passes under in Chadds Ford, PA are of a similar construction (poles, not erector sets) and in a similar setting.

QuoteI nominate these unusual-looking towers on the Chicago Skyway:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7265325,-87.5533252,3a,75y,338.69h,96.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sG8tsLUDruyAFToTqb6Md9Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Portions of those towers look retrofit i.e. add-ons.

ixnay
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on March 06, 2020, 10:00:48 AM
I'd probably go with the term "unique" over "weird" - But I don't think I've ever seen a design quite like some Duquesne Light transmission lines scattered about their territory.

https://goo.gl/maps/GSScn9JcNDmdYHwM7

I had the pleasure of following that line of towers through Plum on my way to the Pro Football and R&R Halls of Fame in 1999, when the PA Tpk was much cheaper.

ixnay
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 05:23:07 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 06, 2020, 01:21:38 PM
There's another variety that I like to call "Indian Man" Power Lines, because they remind me of what we were all taught about Native American cave drawings back when we were kids in school.

In what way do they?  For me that era would've been mid-60s through early '70s.

ixnay
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on March 06, 2020, 05:35:00 PM
Along I-4, presumably on Disney property, is a power line structure in the shape of Mickey Mouse (https://goo.gl/maps/otD1sAEp8K6vyWbd9)!  Honest.

Now *that's* Imagineering!

ixnay
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 05:29:26 PM
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on March 06, 2020, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 06, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
When I was a boy, I could remember seeing electric towers along TN-62 in Oak Ridge that hung orange and white colored round things that looked like fishing bobbers from their wires.  I don't believe they are there anymore.

I've seen those before.  They are warnings to aircraft if they are near/adjacent to an airfield or helipad.  IDK if they are used in newer installations these days as much as in the past.

Here's some balls across (Old) US 222 from the former airfield/gliderport in Kutztown, PA, now a medevac heliport. 

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5069688,-75.7881223,3a,78.8y,358.53h,85.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8LjaRdPYMWKCD4buTnq0rA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D8LjaRdPYMWKCD4buTnq0rA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D61.191452%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en



ixnay
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 06:49:07 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on March 07, 2020, 09:43:06 AM
Hydro-Quebec also used red and white pylons when some important power lines cross a river like these 2 735 kv lines near Levis. https://goo.gl/maps/64QQdg5GBm4FmtXZ9

Can a layman tell just by looking at a tower how much voltage it's carrying?

ixnay
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on March 11, 2020, 08:30:29 PM
Note that the sag height will vary with different temperatures, so they have to be designed with the warmest weather in mind.

How does warm weather affect the sag?  Does warm weather make wires sag more or less?

ixnay
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 31, 2020, 11:10:58 PM
Transition along Maple Valley Highway. (https://goo.gl/maps/KZw77isodKy83osR9)

Transition along Soos Creek Trail. (https://goo.gl/maps/7XMMCEeM6C6ZBfKG8)

Newer power line installation squeezing under existing lines. (https://goo.gl/maps/2sQnfbaduMxhHGMj8)

Wooden poles replaced metal tower after landslide. (https://goo.gl/maps/Dc35JFUNMSvhE4pu5)
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 01, 2020, 02:10:49 PM
How common are Donaus in NJ? I doubt there's even one; the closest ones I can think of are along the QEW around St. Catherines in Ontario.

On the other hand, I've seen some elongated barrels. Too bad all the examples I know of have been replaced. https://www.google.com/maps/@40.539312,-74.3393446,3a,75y,85.89h,101.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7BMjpr8dqlOeIarBClErxA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: jmd41280 on April 01, 2020, 03:35:23 PM
Quote from: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on March 06, 2020, 10:00:48 AM
I'd probably go with the term "unique" over "weird" - But I don't think I've ever seen a design quite like some Duquesne Light transmission lines scattered about their territory.

https://goo.gl/maps/GSScn9JcNDmdYHwM7

I had the pleasure of following that line of towers through Plum on my way to the Pro Football and R&R Halls of Fame in 1999, when the PA Tpk was much cheaper.


ixnay

The power lines w/ those towers actually form a complete circle around Pittsburgh.

I-79 near Carnegie
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3846316,-80.0966674,3a,17.7y,349.43h,95.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spi2oOhTIVNx3zKQD3reZ_w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

PA 88 in Castle Shannon
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3761719,-80.0045971,3a,75y,19.22h,98.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-R5xi8jQl20O3GoIRB3vuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Along US 19 Truck in Ross Township
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.53686,-80.0109144,3a,75y,329.36h,94.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTDl5c14HN1RBrIJjLMOpqQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ErmineNotyours on April 02, 2020, 07:30:47 PM
City of Seattle tower lines through Renton and Skyway were replaced with metal poles in 1972 to add capacity to the right of way.  At the end of the rebuild by a substation: square frame pole towers. (https://goo.gl/maps/Y1Js79ysDffJwwxC9)
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 04, 2020, 08:20:13 PM
Quote from: jmd41280 on April 01, 2020, 03:35:23 PM
Quote from: ixnay on March 31, 2020, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on March 06, 2020, 10:00:48 AM
I'd probably go with the term "unique" over "weird" - But I don't think I've ever seen a design quite like some Duquesne Light transmission lines scattered about their territory.

https://goo.gl/maps/GSScn9JcNDmdYHwM7

I had the pleasure of following that line of towers through Plum on my way to the Pro Football and R&R Halls of Fame in 1999, when the PA Tpk was much cheaper.


ixnay

The power lines w/ those towers actually form a complete circle around Pittsburgh.

I-79 near Carnegie
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3846316,-80.0966674,3a,17.7y,349.43h,95.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spi2oOhTIVNx3zKQD3reZ_w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

PA 88 in Castle Shannon
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3761719,-80.0045971,3a,75y,19.22h,98.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-R5xi8jQl20O3GoIRB3vuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Along US 19 Truck in Ross Township
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.53686,-80.0109144,3a,75y,329.36h,94.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTDl5c14HN1RBrIJjLMOpqQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Kind of interesting how there are two towers on some parts (e.g. the first one), but only one on others.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: lepidopteran on April 04, 2020, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on March 06, 2020, 10:00:48 AM
I'd probably go with the term "unique" over "weird" - But I don't think I've ever seen a design quite like some Duquesne Light transmission lines scattered about their territory.
I've noticed those too.  The two unique features are (1) that very unusual, band-like cross-arm structure (made of wood?), and (2) the pointy "crown" structure on top for the lone grounding wire.

The grounding wire is the thinner wire found at the top, above the current conductors.  As they are harder to spot, this is where those "basketballs" are placed.  The purpose of the wire is to protect against lightning.

Actually, pointy tops used to be more common than they are now.  This is because, over the past 50 years or so, the practice was to have twin grounding wires on double-circuit towers, rather than just one in the center, perhaps to provide better lightning protection.  It might also have to do with channeling induced current in those wires.

You might still find some power lines with a "flat" top for a lone grounder, but most have been retrofitted or replaced with a hat-like structure or even "horns" for twin grounding wires.  This one (https://goo.gl/maps/vCsT9QgFJPJP8KKi8) in the Toledo area has a pointy top, but when the line turns left at the Michigan state line, they are replaced with double-circuit structures that have conductors on only one side, including where they cross US-23.  A decommissioned tower can be seen here (https://goo.gl/maps/fMJ86Ekj2dLbNXbx7), if you look carefully among the trees.  This line, which ran along a now-abandoned short-line railroad, was evidently shut down in favor of a monopole-based route to the north.  Another one on that route may be found here (https://goo.gl/maps/MX9KfYbSRUy71xPh9), but only in the 2007 view; anything later and the tower vanishes.
Title: Re: Weirdest electric towers?
Post by: lepidopteran on April 04, 2020, 11:01:06 PM
Quote from: catch22 on March 06, 2020, 12:16:46 PM
These are somewhat unusual.  When newer, they were a much more vivid blue and yellow but are now somewhat faded.  I've never seen any quite like these, which run near the Ohio Turnpike south of Cleveland.

https://goo.gl/maps/gMVfFfySWu9Hdw4EA
For the record, those were strung in 1977 and presumably constructed just before then.  We were on a family trip to Sea World, and I noticed the spools on some of the structures.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: jmd41280 on April 05, 2020, 12:19:57 PM
These pylons (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3455079,-79.8894104,3a,30.9y,43.41h,107.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMgSS-QfcpGEzu8EbN-N-CA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) are on a power line that runs between the US Steel sites south of Pittsburgh along the Monongahela River.

Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 05, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
Quote from: jmd41280 on April 05, 2020, 12:19:57 PM
These pylons (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3455079,-79.8894104,3a,30.9y,43.41h,107.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMgSS-QfcpGEzu8EbN-N-CA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) are on a power line that runs between the US Steel sites south of Pittsburgh along the Monongahela River.
Tall, but not in the same sense of my Wilmington example. But you ain't seen nothing yet! https://www.google.com/maps/@31.5873597,130.5252104,3a,59.1y,168.8h,106.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSsJobsjRh0bJv8Vke7BvHw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: thenetwork on April 05, 2020, 11:51:09 PM
ISTR some real weird-looking electrical towers going across or near the NY Thruway south of Buffalo.  Never saw anything like them anywhere else.  Must have been real old transmission lines going to the old industrial factories along the lake by Lackawanna. 
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 06, 2020, 10:04:05 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 05, 2020, 11:51:09 PM
ISTR some real weird-looking electrical towers going across or near the NY Thruway south of Buffalo.  Never saw anything like them anywhere else.  Must have been real old transmission lines going to the old industrial factories along the lake by Lackawanna.
GSV?
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 06, 2020, 11:25:14 AM
Also of interest are towers with little levels attached to them. Here's a six-level tower in western Japan, three big and three little: https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5164787,130.6356603,3a,18.9y,62.7h,96.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seJ6KUWiIOjrcrU7-oMpJ8A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: Henry on April 06, 2020, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on April 06, 2020, 10:04:05 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 05, 2020, 11:51:09 PM
ISTR some real weird-looking electrical towers going across or near the NY Thruway south of Buffalo.  Never saw anything like them anywhere else.  Must have been real old transmission lines going to the old industrial factories along the lake by Lackawanna.
GSV?
This is the closest I could get to your location:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8200394,-78.7913944,3a,75y,245.77h,103.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3W2yro7eqpKnJCrYSSBc7g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: thenetwork on April 06, 2020, 12:23:17 PM
Quote from: Henry on April 06, 2020, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on April 06, 2020, 10:04:05 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 05, 2020, 11:51:09 PM
ISTR some real weird-looking electrical towers going across or near the NY Thruway south of Buffalo.  Never saw anything like them anywhere else.  Must have been real old transmission lines going to the old industrial factories along the lake by Lackawanna.
GSV?
This is the closest I could get to your location:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8200394,-78.7913944,3a,75y,245.77h,103.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3W2yro7eqpKnJCrYSSBc7g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Couldn't find it the location on GSV, but here is an example of one.  In the photo, it is the tower on the right.
https://www.r-infinity.com/Niagara/Photos/NiagaraTowers1.jpg
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: amroad17 on April 06, 2020, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 06, 2020, 12:23:17 PM
Quote from: Henry on April 06, 2020, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on April 06, 2020, 10:04:05 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 05, 2020, 11:51:09 PM
ISTR some real weird-looking electrical towers going across or near the NY Thruway south of Buffalo.  Never saw anything like them anywhere else.  Must have been real old transmission lines going to the old industrial factories along the lake by Lackawanna.
GSV?
This is the closest I could get to your location:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8200394,-78.7913944,3a,75y,245.77h,103.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3W2yro7eqpKnJCrYSSBc7g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Couldn't find it the location on GSV, but here is an example of one.  In the photo, it is the tower on the right.
https://www.r-infinity.com/Niagara/Photos/NiagaraTowers1.jpg
These pylons are on a line from the Solvay/Fairmount area to Auburn.  They used to go as far as a spot west of NY 34 and east of Centerpoint Road north of Auburn where the line split--one heading south toward Auburn and the other heading west toward Montezuma.  Now those pylons end just east of Hamilton Road west of Elbridge.  Reason?  There is a line heading to Skaneateles from that point (which has been around at least since the 1950's) and, with the new line that was recently finished from the substation off Kester Road east of Elbridge to supply more power to Auburn, the line west of there was considered redundant.

From what I have heard and read, these NiMo lines have been around since 1914.

Observing the photo, it looks like it was taken on the hill that overlooks the intersection of Warners Road (NY 173) and Hinsdale Road in the Town of Camillus.

https://goo.gl/maps/B5V1Ney5Hesocm5W6
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: ErmineNotyours on April 06, 2020, 06:22:22 PM
When I rented a car and drove between Washington DC and Harper's Ferry, I saw these warning guards (https://goo.gl/maps/wRLgEnaPrG1ZEtiN7) attached below the lines above a construction zone.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: Mr. Matté on April 06, 2020, 06:32:56 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on April 06, 2020, 06:22:22 PM
When I rented a car and drove between Washington DC and Harper's Ferry, I saw these warning guards (https://goo.gl/maps/wRLgEnaPrG1ZEtiN7) attached below the lines above a construction zone.

For those in the know with active construction around electrical lines, am I correct in assuming that these drops are insulated from the energized lines above? What was captured along the Northeast Extension by GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2935167,-75.3669769,3a,59.5y,342.79h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLWCcrCU3Z__rD_DToiB0Ag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) shows a similar attachment, though much closer to the ground, traffic, and along higher-voltage lines.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: Henry on April 07, 2020, 10:06:06 AM
I present another classic asymmetric design from MB:

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.6821808,-98.0053413,3a,18.7y,330.55h,97.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHyWy21up6OL9mu0WxUTt8w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Having traveled through the Carolinas a lot in my lifetime, I'm sure that one from there has to wonder if those either inspired or were inspired by this similar design:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4483779,-80.6177409,3a,75y,148.94h,110.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szxZl6-xbhR_HLJMNvcoB_w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Here's a Donau version of the Carolina-style pylons:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2667307,-81.1586755,3a,15y,68.19h,94.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3Kc-8kxTchPNRjwV8AtqkA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D3Kc-8kxTchPNRjwV8AtqkA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D267.21347%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

The two most common types are the asymmetric and one-/two-level H-frame wooden poles, although they are now being replaced by tubular steel poles with the triangle setup:

Asymmetric
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6337073,-80.4940809,3a,75y,235.03h,92.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfIauX6dvBFAX9bGRETOIPg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

One-level H-frame
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7698581,-82.4687275,3a,75y,45.13h,100.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxPdw13JTR9AhMQdoIlsb2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Two-level H-frame
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.964682,-81.9721875,3a,75y,135.94h,95.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smIvoZyk6c8fW7eB2tN7vcg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 07, 2020, 10:13:04 AM
On a similar note, near Morristown:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7837416,-74.4172639,3a,39.9y,33.49h,101.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJnvLPy7wAeDjELwCaVC3fA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Near Summit:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7111815,-74.3272099,3a,24.1y,136.97h,98.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCmqIGYKDIrQfNNYsWXvdZg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Near the other side of Morristown:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8209957,-74.4432771,3a,75y,62.46h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8V5BD5FOPxxXt9Y_eFTbtg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: cjk374 on April 16, 2020, 07:10:48 PM
I don't know how these don't just fall over in a good wind. They just stand on what seems to be a single point.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0585368,-93.1740175,3a,75y,239.28h,90.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spSPvXrPURgtkYWhU8onTGw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DpSPvXrPURgtkYWhU8onTGw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D135.51935%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: GenExpwy on April 17, 2020, 12:46:53 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on April 16, 2020, 07:10:48 PM
I don't know how these don't just fall over in a good wind. They just stand on what seems to be a single point.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0585368,-93.1740175,3a,75y,239.28h,90.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spSPvXrPURgtkYWhU8onTGw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DpSPvXrPURgtkYWhU8onTGw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D135.51935%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

You can see the guy wires more clearly if you zoom in a bit. The fact that decent-size trucks are being driven around right next to the guy wires might be a concern.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 13, 2021, 04:24:36 PM
PSE&G will be replacing 90-year-old transmission towers with monopoles (https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/local/development/2020/07/27/pse-g-replacing-90-year-old-transmission-towers-monopoles/5500664002/)

Old article. But saw the pylons being replaced in Bridgewater right as I speak.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: MCRoads on April 16, 2021, 02:12:02 PM
I think this speaks for itself:
https://goo.gl/maps/qgRYZxLojLhjRrM97

This design is fairly common in lattice towers, but I have never seen one made of pipes:
https://goo.gl/maps/eA2w8qzoBa1yFUU97

And finally, this is something else. I don't even know the purpose of such a complex structure:
https://goo.gl/maps/NQZ82DTCJuU8y8cb6
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: mgk920 on April 17, 2021, 05:21:28 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on April 16, 2021, 02:12:02 PM
I think this speaks for itself:
https://goo.gl/maps/qgRYZxLojLhjRrM97

Likely due to the current NEC not allowing power lines to be strung over buildings.

QuoteThis design is fairly common in lattice towers, but I have never seen one made of pipes:
https://goo.gl/maps/eA2w8qzoBa1yFUU97

That looks to me to allow the end of a straight run of a line without needing guy wires.

QuoteAnd finally, this is something else. I don't even know the purpose of such a complex structure:
https://goo.gl/maps/NQZ82DTCJuU8y8cb6

Those are switches.  The lines can be turned on and off at that point as needed.

Mike
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 17, 2021, 06:27:55 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on April 13, 2021, 04:24:36 PM
PSE&G will be replacing 90-year-old transmission towers with monopoles (https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/local/development/2020/07/27/pse-g-replacing-90-year-old-transmission-towers-monopoles/5500664002/)

Old article. But saw the pylons being replaced in Bridgewater right as I speak.

They have replaced many of these in South Jersey as well.  One area of high visibility is where the lines cross over I-295 and the NJ Turnpike NJ/PA Extension...as of a few weeks ago the old lattice structures were half de-constructed, sitting on the ground next to the new monopoles.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 17, 2021, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 17, 2021, 06:27:55 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on April 13, 2021, 04:24:36 PM
PSE&G will be replacing 90-year-old transmission towers with monopoles (https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/local/development/2020/07/27/pse-g-replacing-90-year-old-transmission-towers-monopoles/5500664002/)

Old article. But saw the pylons being replaced in Bridgewater right as I speak.

They have replaced many of these in South Jersey as well.  One area of high visibility is where the lines cross over I-295 and the NJ Turnpike NJ/PA Extension...as of a few weeks ago the old lattice structures were half de-constructed, sitting on the ground next to the new monopoles.
Oh yeah, those. There was one set of wires that ran from Scotch Plains - Watchung - Berkeley Heights - Chatham - Livingston - East Hanover - Parsippany, or something like that, with almost the exact same replacement (I think it was due to Sandy damage, idk), except the original lattice towers had elongated middle rows.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: jmd41280 on April 17, 2021, 05:44:53 PM
Came across these (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6926767,-79.9140309,3a,75y,241.75h,101.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLLYX9SCuKdpM1a69sJnbEA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Morgantown, WV today.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: Dirt Roads on April 17, 2021, 09:43:16 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on April 06, 2020, 06:22:22 PM
When I rented a car and drove between Washington DC and Harper's Ferry, I saw these warning guards (https://goo.gl/maps/wRLgEnaPrG1ZEtiN7) attached below the lines above a construction zone.

Quote from: Mr. Matté on April 06, 2020, 06:32:56 PM
For those in the know with active construction around electrical lines, am I correct in assuming that these drops are insulated from the energized lines above? What was captured along the Northeast Extension by GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2935167,-75.3669769,3a,59.5y,342.79h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLWCcrCU3Z__rD_DToiB0Ag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) shows a similar attachment, though much closer to the ground, traffic, and along higher-voltage lines.

Indeed, not only is the connector insulated but the drop wires should also be non-conductive.  The bottom rails do need to be metallic to create a sharp resonance when they are struck.  However, it is a tad creepy that they were mounted on all three phases.  I'd be concerned that they could all get wrapped together and pull a couple of phase wires closer than they ought to be. 
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on May 07, 2021, 08:22:21 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4360338,-78.7689366,2796m/data=!3m1!1e3?authuser=2

5 cuttings, and only 2 of them have power lines.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: GenExpwy on May 08, 2021, 03:17:29 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on May 07, 2021, 08:22:21 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4360338,-78.7689366,2796m/data=!3m1!1e3?authuser=2

5 cuttings, and only 2 of them have power lines.

Some could be pipelines.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: Scott5114 on May 08, 2021, 03:44:00 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on May 08, 2021, 03:17:29 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on May 07, 2021, 08:22:21 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4360338,-78.7689366,2796m/data=!3m1!1e3?authuser=2

5 cuttings, and only 2 of them have power lines.

Some could be pipelines.

Indeed, here you can see the marker posts, and what appears to be them laying a pipeline in the distance: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4369397,-78.7644441,3a,40.7y,80.34h,82.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR3prueXGnNGu0xE8efukHQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?authuser=2
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: adventurernumber1 on May 08, 2021, 04:56:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 08, 2021, 03:44:00 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on May 08, 2021, 03:17:29 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on May 07, 2021, 08:22:21 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4360338,-78.7689366,2796m/data=!3m1!1e3?authuser=2

5 cuttings, and only 2 of them have power lines.

Some could be pipelines.

Indeed, here you can see the marker posts, and what appears to be them laying a pipeline in the distance: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4369397,-78.7644441,3a,40.7y,80.34h,82.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR3prueXGnNGu0xE8efukHQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?authuser=2

That probably explains a lot of these empty (from the surface) cuttings I've seen. For some reason I previously thought these were places where there used to be transmission towers but that they were removed for whatever reason. But given that I've seen an awful lot of these, this certainly makes much more sense.  :-D
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on May 09, 2021, 08:24:24 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5664897,-74.2560656,3a,75y,346.37h,103.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1fQFO2uc2aRJ1Xnfpjaxmg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=2

Only just remembered this when driving along this section of the Turnpike recently.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: lepidopteran on May 13, 2021, 03:18:49 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on May 09, 2021, 08:24:24 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5664897,-74.2560656,3a,75y,346.37h,103.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1fQFO2uc2aRJ1Xnfpjaxmg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=2

Only just remembered this when driving along this section of the Turnpike recently.
Good example of old-meets-new.  Notice that if you do a 180, the towers on the far-left have "corona rings" on their insulators, or what looks like floating rings on the top and bottom of each one.  I think the purpose is to serve as a Faraday cage of sorts to prevent arc-ing.  Today's installs just seem to use larger/longer insulators altogether.
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 25, 2022, 03:59:36 PM
Okay these are actually interesting
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.662772,-76.1602031,3a,27.3y,47.14h,108.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbOpBXeoh7sFYSw4Qxll2-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5866629,-76.0756424,3a,39.7y,182.27h,99.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPdke9uy9mJKdc0erc-pYJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7952355,-77.0562298,3a,24.1y,285.88h,100.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJ4qWauMqvdC1TgK7iZwHRg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DJ4qWauMqvdC1TgK7iZwHRg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D265.15598%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Pylons/electric towers
Post by: TheGrassGuy on April 25, 2022, 04:00:45 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on April 17, 2020, 12:46:53 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on April 16, 2020, 07:10:48 PM
I don't know how these don't just fall over in a good wind. They just stand on what seems to be a single point.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0585368,-93.1740175,3a,75y,239.28h,90.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spSPvXrPURgtkYWhU8onTGw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DpSPvXrPURgtkYWhU8onTGw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D135.51935%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

You can see the guy wires more clearly if you zoom in a bit. The fact that decent-size trucks are being driven around right next to the guy wires might be a concern.

There do seem to be plenty of these in rural areas.