NFL (2024 Season)

[dvferyance]

The Chiefs are well on their way to becoming a dynasty and not to sound pouty, but it is no fun for anyone stuck in their conference. The Bills have known it for a while now but I think more people are seeing it with the Chiefs finding a way to yet another SB.

Josh Allen is Payton Manning to Patrick Mahomes' Tom Brady.

I would say right now Josh Allen is more like Phillip Rivers. Manning did eventually get to the super bowl.

[epzik8]

Josh Allen has been by far more successful than Phillip Rivers.  At the very least the Bills have been far more consistently good than the Chargers ever were.

IMO, Lamar Jackson at this moment draws a parallel to Rivers as far as dominating in the regular season before falling flat in the playoffs.

[triplemultiplex]

Josh Allen is Payton Manning in that Tom Brady won like all* of the playoff matchups between them the way Allen is still O-fer against Mahomes.

Another way of saying if Allen and Mahomes were in separate conferences, Allen would have been to a Super Bowl by now.

( *Don't remember if that's literally true, but it feels like it.)

[thspfc]

Josh Allen is Payton Manning in that Tom Brady won like all* of the playoff matchups between them the way Allen is still O-fer against Mahomes.

Another way of saying if Allen and Mahomes were in separate conferences, Allen would have been to a Super Bowl by now.

( *Don't remember if that's literally true, but it feels like it.)

It's not even close to true and it doesn't feel like it either. Manning was 3-2 against Brady in the playoffs.

[webny99]

I think I would take the over on 5 career playoff matchups between Mahomes and Allen. I'm sure it won't align every year, but only three times in the next decade with room to spare if they play longer than that seems relatively safe.

[webny99]

"The Shanahandler" is a great nickname for new Seahawks HC Mike MacDonald. I believe it was coined by Mina Kimes of ESPN in reference to MacDonald's ability to shut down Shanahan offenses around the league. And fittingly, that will be extremely important in Seattle, as arguably their biggest problem under Pete Carroll was their inability to stop the Rams and 49ers four times a year. If that changes under MacDonald, he's got a ready-made nickname for the ages. 

[Henry]

Josh Allen is Payton Manning in that Tom Brady won like all* of the playoff matchups between them the way Allen is still O-fer against Mahomes.

Another way of saying if Allen and Mahomes were in separate conferences, Allen would have been to a Super Bowl by now.

( *Don't remember if that's literally true, but it feels like it.)

It's not even close to true and it doesn't feel like it either. Manning was 3-2 against Brady in the playoffs.

If you count Eli's 2-0 record against Brady in the Super Bowl, then the Manning brothers own a 5-2 all-time postseason record when they faced him.

[tmoore952]

The last few years, family needs have caused me to miss the first half of several Super Bowls. I did not, for example, see the first half of the Atlanta-New England SB where Atlanta led 28-3. And so I have also missed most halftime shows (no big loss). And also the commercials. I do try to watch the 4th quarter.

I try not to get too wrapped up in the game, unless I have a rooting interest, because of its Sunday night time slot for those of us in the eastern part of the country. Same complaint I have about the last Wild Card game being at the end of a three day weekend.

Unlike last year, have no rooting interest this year, probably am not going to a party, and am a little "meh" about the game. I'll watch and be aware of it enough so I am able to talk about it at work on Monday (and also years from now), but I won't be glued to the TV.

You can probably tell from my accumulated posts over the last few months that I am not in love with the NFL. But I do pay enough attention to it to be conversant.

[epzik8]

It's flag football day...

[bing101]

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-patrick-mahomes-father-arrest-cfcca2814d423c6411948c30e38d98cf

Mahomes' father arrested on DWI suspicion in Texas as Chiefs prepare to face 49ers in the Super Bowl

[epzik8]

Even if the 49ers don't hoist the Lombardi in Vegas next week, at least their Pro Bowlers can say they won the tug of war.

[Big John]

Even if the 49ers don't hoist the Lombardi in Vegas next week, at least their Pro Bowlers can say they won the tug of war.

Players in the Super Bowl don't participate in the Pro Bowl games.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Even if the 49ers don't hoist the Lombardi in Vegas next week, at least their Pro Bowlers can say they won the tug of war.

Players in the Super Bowl don't participate in the Pro Bowl games.

Moving it to the week before the Super Bowl was stupid, for this reason. A lot of conference championship participants from the losing teams who are eligible to play also withdraw as a result. I know Baltimore's Justin Tucker and at least a couple Lions were there, though.

[bing101]

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-repeat-champs-101926f021719c8c7667bb8de22f1277

Repeating in NFL used to be more common, but Chiefs aim to be first back-to-back champs in 19 years

[epzik8]

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-repeat-champs-101926f021719c8c7667bb8de22f1277

Repeating in NFL used to be more common, but Chiefs aim to be first back-to-back champs in 19 years

It's wild how for example in the '70s, it was basically all the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders and Vikings.

[Big John]

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-repeat-champs-101926f021719c8c7667bb8de22f1277

Repeating in NFL used to be more common, but Chiefs aim to be first back-to-back champs in 19 years

It's wild how for example in the '70s, it was basically all the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders and Vikings.

Vikings never won the Super Bowl.

[tmoore952]

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-repeat-champs-101926f021719c8c7667bb8de22f1277

Repeating in NFL used to be more common, but Chiefs aim to be first back-to-back champs in 19 years

It's wild how for example in the '70s, it was basically all the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders and Vikings.

For SB appearances, yes.
For SBs V to X!V (at end of 1970-79 seasons), only Baltimore in SB V, Washington in SB VII, Denver in SB XII, and LA Rams in SB XIV are the exceptions.
Raiders had a hard time getting to SB (as did the Rams), and as mentioned Vikings never won.

Add SB IV at end of 1969 season (Vikings) and SB XV at end of 1980 season (Raiders) - and over 12 years you have 18 out of 24 SB slots taken up by those five teams.

[jeffandnicole]

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-repeat-champs-101926f021719c8c7667bb8de22f1277

Repeating in NFL used to be more common, but Chiefs aim to be first back-to-back champs in 19 years

It's wild how for example in the '70s, it was basically all the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders and Vikings.

The NFL wanted more parity, and it worked.

[Henry]

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-repeat-champs-101926f021719c8c7667bb8de22f1277

Repeating in NFL used to be more common, but Chiefs aim to be first back-to-back champs in 19 years

It's wild how for example in the '70s, it was basically all the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders and Vikings.

For SB appearances, yes.
For SBs V to X!V (at end of 1970-79 seasons), only Baltimore in SB V, Washington in SB VII, Denver in SB XII, and LA Rams in SB XIV are the exceptions.
Raiders had a hard time getting to SB (as did the Rams), and as mentioned Vikings never won.

Add SB IV at end of 1969 season (Vikings) and SB XV at end of 1980 season (Raiders) - and over 12 years you have 18 out of 24 SB slots taken up by those five teams.

And then came the NFC dominance, where its teams won the Super Bowl 13 years in a row. Now it's the AFC who is dominating, with a 16-10 edge since John Elway finally got the Broncos on the winning side after losing four previous times.

[mgk920]

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-repeat-champs-101926f021719c8c7667bb8de22f1277

Repeating in NFL used to be more common, but Chiefs aim to be first back-to-back champs in 19 years

It's wild how for example in the '70s, it was basically all the Dolphins, Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders and Vikings.

Vikings never won the Super Bowl.

The Packers winning two consecutive in the 1960s, too, along with several pre-Super Bowl championships.

Mike

[thspfc]

https://twitter.com/49ers/status/1753463293296144877

ROFL. Team was favored in every single game they played this season, including on the road against a 10-1 team. Go Chiefs.

[webny99]

ROFL. Team was favored in every single game they played this season, including on the road against a 10-1 team. Go Chiefs.

Ironically enough, they were significant in-game underdogs in both of their playoff games. But they did benefit from the two other supposed superpowers, Eagles and Cowboys, both getting knocked off in the wild card round. Sure, this would make more sense as a catchphrase for the Chiefs, considering the season and playoff run they had.

But if this is enough to make you not root for a team that (a) hasn't won a Super Bowl in 30 years and (b) has not won a Super Bowl despite appearing in 50% of the title games since 2010 (meaning more championship or Super Bowl heartbreak than any other franchise in that span), over a team that's won two Super Bowls in the last four years as a neutral fan, I don't know what to say other than the counter-narrative you're inventing might be the only thing sadder than the narrative they're inventing.

[triplemultiplex]

Also looking forward to whatever bullshit "controversy" comes out of this Super Bowl.  There's one every year.  Sometimes it's about a ref's call/no call.  Sometimes it's about a player's actions.  Sometimes it's about the half time show.  Sometimes it's even about a damn commercial.  But every year, there's some bullcrap that gets the thumb-typers in a tizzy.  They're already trying to tee one up with this whole Taylor Swift thing.

Can't just be a football game with some harmless, funny commercials.

[thspfc]

ROFL. Team was favored in every single game they played this season, including on the road against a 10-1 team. Go Chiefs.

Ironically enough, they were significant in-game underdogs in both of their playoff games. But they did benefit from the two other supposed superpowers, Eagles and Cowboys, both getting knocked off in the wild card round. Sure, this would make more sense as a catchphrase for the Chiefs, considering the season and playoff run they had.

But if this is enough to make you not root for a team that (a) hasn't won a Super Bowl in 30 years and (b) has not won a Super Bowl despite appearing in 50% of the title games since 2010 (meaning more championship or Super Bowl heartbreak than any other franchise in that span), over a team that's won two Super Bowls in the last four years as a neutral fan, I don't know what to say other than the counter-narrative you're inventing might be the only thing sadder than the narrative they're inventing.

I don't like the 49ers. I am indifferent to the Chiefs. Therefore I am rooting for the Chiefs. I'm not sure what's so sad about that. I don't want to see the 49ers win a championship.

[webny99]

...
But if this is enough to make you not root for a team that (a) hasn't won a Super Bowl in 30 years and (b) has not won a Super Bowl despite appearing in 50% of the title games since 2010 (meaning more championship or Super Bowl heartbreak than any other franchise in that span), over a team that's won two Super Bowls in the last four years as a neutral fan, I don't know what to say other than the counter-narrative you're inventing might be the only thing sadder than the narrative they're inventing.

I don't like the 49ers. I am indifferent to the Chiefs. Therefore I am rooting for the Chiefs. I'm not sure what's so sad about that. I don't want to see the 49ers win a championship.

Which is fine, it just means you were predisposed to root against the 49ers, and therefore, not a neutral fan.