Harbor Freeway incorrectly signed in downtown LA (I-110 vs CA 110)

[DTComposer]

Not to steer this thread too far off topic, but does anyone know why they sign Gaffey Street at the southern end of the 110 with an Interstate shield?

It may simply be that Gaffey Street is the control destination of I-110 (now that state route 110 no longer exists south of the end of the freeway).

The signs in question say I-110/Gaffey Street/San Pedro, so I think Gaffey is being used as the roadway name that takes you to the control destination of San Pedro, rather than the control itself.

All the I-110 shields on the BGS's are covering up CA-11 shields, so I think it was more likely just an error during the number change - the instructions were probably "all the CA-11 shields south of I-10 get replaced with I-110 shields" without regard to the short stretch of CA-11/110 on Gaffey Street itself.

The newer signs are just copies of the signs they replaced - without regard to correcting/updating any errors.

That said, how well was 110 ever signed on Gaffey itself, whether CA or I shields?

At this point then, CA 110_South (Gaffey St) no longer exists, leaving just CA 110_North (Arroyo Seco Parkway)?

As of 2009, 110 starts at CA-47, so Gaffey is completely off the state system.

[TheStranger]

Not to steer this thread too far off topic, but does anyone know why they sign Gaffey Street at the southern end of the 110 with an Interstate shield?

It may simply be that Gaffey Street is the control destination of I-110 (now that state route 110 no longer exists south of the end of the freeway).

The signs in question say I-110/Gaffey Street/San Pedro, so I think Gaffey is being used as the roadway name that takes you to the control destination of San Pedro, rather than the control itself.

Some precedent for this (albeit accidental) - the 1980s-era pullthrough for 280 north in San Francisco northeast of US 101 lists "Sixth Street" as the control city, even though 6th is not officially part of any numbered route (despite the fact it provides part of the link to I-80 that the unbuilt freeway section was supposed to have supplanted).

[Occidental Tourist]

These are the specific signs I'm thinking of:





Edit:  The original links got pulled down, so I'll use Andy's helpful links below

[andy3175]

I have some alternate/slightly better pictures of the south end from 2004 at this link: https://www.aaroads.com/california/i-110sb_ca.html.  March 2015 imagery from Google (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.748987,-118.291003,3a,75y,182.73h,86.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1si2SP0s9QLUfAn1DrgpYX4g!2e0!6m1!1e1) indicates the signs have not changed since then.

[Max Rockatansky]

For what it's worth the I-110 and CA 110 signage was correct on the Harbor Freeway when I drove it yesterday.  The first CA 110 signs don't appear until the final approach to I-10 northbound on I-110:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/151828809@N08/443k4F

Sorry for the old thread revival, I did use to notice the inconsistency on southbound CA 110 when I worked in the area circa 2010-13.

[Alps]

For what it's worth the I-110 and CA 110 signage was correct on the Harbor Freeway when I drove it yesterday.  The first CA 110 signs don't appear until the final approach to I-10 northbound on I-110:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/151828809@N08/443k4F

Sorry for the old thread revival, I did use to notice the inconsistency on southbound CA 110 when I worked in the area circa 2010-13.

Are you saying the new reflective signs corrected the issues of the old button copy? I'm surprised at the competence!

[Max Rockatansky]

For what it's worth the I-110 and CA 110 signage was correct on the Harbor Freeway when I drove it yesterday.  The first CA 110 signs don't appear until the final approach to I-10 northbound on I-110:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/151828809@N08/443k4F

Sorry for the old thread revival, I did use to notice the inconsistency on southbound CA 110 when I worked in the area circa 2010-13.

Are you saying the new reflective signs corrected the issues of the old button copy? I'm surprised at the competence!

The Arroyo Seco, yes it did.  It's now crystal clear from the Four Level Interchange how to get to the Golden State Freeway segment of northbound I-5. 

[DTComposer]

For what it's worth the I-110 and CA 110 signage was correct on the Harbor Freeway when I drove it yesterday.  The first CA 110 signs don't appear until the final approach to I-10 northbound on I-110:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/151828809@N08/443k4F

Sorry for the old thread revival, I did use to notice the inconsistency on southbound CA 110 when I worked in the area circa 2010-13.

The change of signage in Wilmington to use Harry Bridges Blvd. instead of C Street is kinda (homophonically) amusing on the signs where they didn't have enough room, so it says "Harry Bridges 1¼ miles."

[TheStranger]

Don't think it's there anymore, but eight and a half years ago my friend and I got this photo of an Interstate 110 shield on northbound Harbor Freeway in downtown LA, a mile or so past I-10.

DSC_4269 by Chris Sampang, on Flickr

North I-110 detour sign in downtown LA (on surface streets), February 2014
DSC_5829 by Chris Sampang, on Flickr

[mrsman]

We will continue to see some levels of inconsistencies with regard to this issue for the forseeable future.  Officially, it is I-110 south of I-10 and CA-110 north of I-10 and truck restricted north of US 101 and truck permitted south of US 101, and the freeway is known as the Arroyo Seco north of US 101 and the Harbor Freeway south of US 101.  Since so many people associate the truck permitted Harbor Freeway as I-110, you will continue to see signs referring to the Harbor between US 101 and I-10 as (incorrectly) I-110 because that is the common association.

This is especially true for southbound 110.  Southbound CA-110 in the Downtown area does eventually lead to I-110. 

It is really not a big problem because CA does not repeat highway numbers.  The whole thing is part of "the 110."