Traffic signal

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/JrEzR7zJJ1Sv48CAA
Here is a signal that uses two side by side heads rather than spaced apart. Plus it's a an old mast arm to boot that is why the heads have to be that way here.
No it's not a Google double image either.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KxysRrEoCQU7ic6t8

[plain]

Found these left turn signals with an unusual lens layout.
https://youtu.be/DkYEBkTvmH8?si=h2zeFhVF90GQwpIj

Reminds me of this signal in Ashland, VA.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/o6u1D3m2hnmGKPwG8

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ASCWaktWbg98k3s49
How about these odd looking cutout visors.

[paulthemapguy]

I found a functioning set of 4-ways in La Rue, Ohio.  I can't believe this are still in use!

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eww3xkDjySPvtBb16

[PColumbus73]

Found these left turn signals with an unusual lens layout.
https://youtu.be/DkYEBkTvmH8?si=h2zeFhVF90GQwpIj

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3753263,-79.2874201,3a,15y,237.41h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stdojWQHMcVMvGnIMArbcQw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

This signal in Georgetown, SC is similar

Reminds me of this signal in Ashland, VA.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/o6u1D3m2hnmGKPwG8

[jakeroot]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ASCWaktWbg98k3s49
How about these odd looking cutout visors.

Unrelated; I forgot just how much of a dead-ringer those old New Jersey horizontal signals are for Japanese signals, at least in terms of their placement and orientation (especially the back-to-back placement). Japanese signals are normally silver, with 250mm lenses, but otherwise it's just like Japan.

Example: https://maps.app.goo.gl/8XZ5F36K29SpuA4p8

[freebrickproductions]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ASCWaktWbg98k3s49
How about these odd looking cutout visors.

Looks like those are Marbelite signals, I believe those "fat cutaways" are exclusive to their signals, save for ones used as replacements on other heads of course.

[CJResotko]

Found these left turn signals with an unusual lens layout.
https://youtu.be/DkYEBkTvmH8?si=h2zeFhVF90GQwpIj

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3753263,-79.2874201,3a,15y,237.41h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stdojWQHMcVMvGnIMArbcQw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

This signal in Georgetown, SC is similar

Reminds me of this signal in Ashland, VA.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/o6u1D3m2hnmGKPwG8

There's also something similar to this in Portage, MI: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2195179,-85.5895203,3a,71.5y,259.45h,100.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHhLDQUKrCQhHSwSgBDwdPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/4ToSXoDUBeuZp9nF6
New Jersey beats both California and Illinois here with three left turn signal heads for one left lane protection using a four section permissive signals. Usually two are only used for a single lane turn, even in New Jersey.

[fwydriver405]

^^ Traffic can't go straight, so I think flashing yellow arrows would be more appropriate.

A similar setup closer to home in Cambridge, MA was converted to a FYA setup (albeit with seperate 3-section signals) - previously, it used to use both steady left and right green arrows while the oncoming traffic had a circular green.

The steady left/right green arrows while oncoming traffic has a circular green setups still exist in some parts of Boston, like at Everett St at Soldiers Field Rd's jughandle. I once saw a driver on the Everett St approach get off-guard at this intersection - despite having green arrows for both left and right, the driver didn't expect oncoming traffic to also have a green as well.

There is also this setup in Brooklyn at Atlantic Avenue & Euclid Avenue, but unlike the CA or MA examples, this example is two, one way streets intersecting with each other. It used to be circular green, but changed to a double FYA setup in the 2020s.

[jakeroot]

The steady left/right green arrows while oncoming traffic has a circular green setups still exist in some parts of Boston, like at Everett St at Soldiers Field Rd's jughandle. I once saw a driver on the Everett St approach get off-guard at this intersection - despite having green arrows for both left and right, the driver didn't expect oncoming traffic to also have a green as well.

At what point in history was it ever okay for there to be a left turn green arrow opposite a solid green orb? That completely defeats the point of a green arrow.

I've seen setups like this (I think...they may have been green orbs), but the oncoming traffic has a flashing yellow orb, not a solid green orb.

[SignBridge]

I agree jakeroot. The whole principle of a green turn arrow is that it gives you an exclusive right-of-way for that specific movement. The signal will not (should not) clear any other movement that conflicts with the arrow movement and that includes pedestrian signals. A pedestrian will not (or should not)  get a walk signal if it conflicts with the arrow movement.

[Big John]

I believe pre 1971 MUTCD allowed an all arrow indication that meant allowed movements and not protected movements. There were instances after that the signal indications were changed from 2 green arrows on a 4-section signal to a green ball and a blank section.

[steviep24]

This particular signal was posted in the New York thread

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lake+Success,+NY/@40.7684679,-73.6914672,3a,37.5y,154.93h,95.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4DTfFyqu-YtN0qS4gEdxqQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m7!3m6!1s0x89c289c5e4f90f9b:0x5074739adcfe6831!8m2!3d40.7698453!4d-73.7090428!10e5!16zL20vMHkybXQ?entry=ttu

I noticed a single aspect signal head on the same assembly as a three aspect head. Looks like NYSDOT added a bimodal arrow next to a regular signal. Strange for a NYSDOT install.

[jakeroot]

This particular signal was posted in the New York thread

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lake+Success,+NY/@40.7684679,-73.6914672,3a,37.5y,154.93h,95.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4DTfFyqu-YtN0qS4gEdxqQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m7!3m6!1s0x89c289c5e4f90f9b:0x5074739adcfe6831!8m2!3d40.7698453!4d-73.7090428!10e5!16zL20vMHkybXQ?entry=ttu

I noticed a single aspect signal head on the same assembly as a three aspect head. Looks like NYSDOT added a bimodal arrow next to a regular signal. Strange for a NYSDOT install.

Reminds me a bit of the vertical signals in Japan, just with the arrow in the opposite place:

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/E1EWSuYwsgbfPRfAA
What kind of a set up is this here? The FYLA is on top maybe?

[Big John]

Sign says Left Turn Yield on Flashing Red Arrow After Stop.  Looks like Delaware is trying a left turn system fashioned from a HJAWK system.

[jakeroot]

I can't find any permissive phasing in Google Street View. But I agree, looks like it might be designed to have adjacent flashing red arrows.

[roadfro]

Sign says Left Turn Yield on Flashing Red Arrow After Stop.  Looks like Delaware is trying a left turn system fashioned from a HJAWK system.

It's not "fashioned from a HAWK". It's a permissible signal head arrangement in the MUTCD.

[plain]

DE really needs to drop the flashing reds and get on board with the FYA. Seriously.

[jakeroot]

Sign says Left Turn Yield on Flashing Red Arrow After Stop.  Looks like Delaware is trying a left turn system fashioned from a HJAWK system.

It's not "fashioned from a HAWK". It's a permissible signal head arrangement in the MUTCD.

This That four head signal must be one of the most rarely-used MUTCD-permitted features, of any chapter. Up there with the large painted "yield ahead" triangle.

edited for clarity.

[US 89]

Isn't the flashing red left turn arrow also a thing in Maryland? Or have they abandoned that for the FYA?

[jakeroot]

Isn't the flashing red left turn arrow also a thing in Maryland? Or have they abandoned that for the FYA?

My understand is that Maryland continues to use the flashing red arrow alongside neighboring Delaware.

[PColumbus73]

Isn't the flashing red left turn arrow also a thing in Maryland? Or have they abandoned that for the FYA?

My understand is that Maryland continues to use the flashing red arrow alongside neighboring Delaware.

I thought I saw a flashing red used in Michigan before as well

[roadman65]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/siGpVizZNPwjP6QN7
Here is still a 3M that has yet been phased out in use as of last Summer.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/R8cWT53yaWQ2gkrS8
Another signal with a 3M from past August.

Ironically the second example is at a NJDOT maintenance facility driveway.

Another rare find. The Google imagery captured the fiber optic arrow in a yellow phase in the four section permissive signal head.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/d2kqoaWywFdiEZFU6