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Title: Different Fonts!?
Post by: chrislopezz on January 19, 2024, 10:22:25 AM

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/GA13-GA332End.jpg/512px-GA13-GA332End.jpg) (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GA13-GA332End.jpg)
GA13-GA332End (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GA13-GA332End.jpg)
Chris 886 (myself), CC0, via Wikimedia Commons


I took this photo a few months ago, it seems that there are 2 different fonts, why would the GDOT change one when broken?


(Sorry for the frame change)
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: formulanone on January 19, 2024, 01:33:31 PM
Not the best answer, but that's just Georgia being Georgia. GDOT and the contractors they work with are not consistent with signage practices.

Here's various examples of Georgia State Route 100:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4462/37036418734_b4d2db5342_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YqMjXG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48245088577_db4a5f680a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gvfG12)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/5713/30929817460_2d05f11139_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P8ap9Q)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52062821713_aba2f46a0d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2njBz48)

(the last one was the same as the first, just using it as comparison to the third style)

In practice, they'd all be about the same "series" of the same font (http://www.trafficsign.us/signtypeface.html), except for necessary differences (consistent shield width and signage height/width limitations). But almost all places are not that consistent, and contractors typically have to make up a sign quickly.

Signage rarely comes from one central state manufacturing shop anymore; states / counties / cities / construction firms will work with an outside contractor that crosses multiple state lines. That's because the public in general is not picky about shield shape, route classification, and font scaling/widths, so as long as it points to the right place and isn't misspelled...then it makes the local news.
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: kphoger on January 19, 2024, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 19, 2024, 01:33:31 PM

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48245088577_db4a5f680a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gvfG12)


How long do you think it would take that slow church to cross the street?
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: epzik8 on January 19, 2024, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: chrislopezz on January 19, 2024, 10:22:25 AM

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/GA13-GA332End.jpg/512px-GA13-GA332End.jpg) (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GA13-GA332End.jpg)
GA13-GA332End (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GA13-GA332End.jpg)
Chris 886 (myself), CC0, via Wikimedia Commons


I took this photo a few months ago, it seems that there are 2 different fonts, why would the GDOT change one when broken?


(Sorry for the frame change)

I would assume it was adjusted statewide since the previous south marker was put up.
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: chrislopezz on January 20, 2024, 09:45:03 AM
I have different variation below:
(https://i.ibb.co/KLjRj9V/B8-C715-AA-51-FC-41-A5-B5-C2-EB73-A6-A2-EE1-E.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/jVgXRnj/DA06078-D-CFB6-4-B89-9-CA9-40451-D8-B10-E6.jpg)
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: formulanone on January 20, 2024, 01:29:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 19, 2024, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 19, 2024, 01:33:31 PM

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48245088577_db4a5f680a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gvfG12)


How long do you think it would take that slow church to cross the street?

333 conclaves, given ordinary time.
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: chrislopezz on January 20, 2024, 10:24:55 PM
I also found some more but I think it's from different "eras".
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PBnZfYUE408/WhydHfCz32I/AAAAAAAAA7o/-zOQY_U7I8k2niehpvRV7waoo-wZ5B4fQCLcBGAs/s1600/ga400_nbshields_123104.jpg)
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: SEWIGuy on January 21, 2024, 08:14:04 AM
Yes. Some highway signage has different fonts than the norm. Not sure this is news and definitely not sure we need a thread full of pictures of them.
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: Scott5114 on January 22, 2024, 12:36:57 AM
Part of the problem is that, as far as I can tell, the Georgia state route marker standard isn't actually available on their website. That makes it hard to check what's supposed to be used.

Georgia isn't the only state with route marker inconsistency, though. Good luck trying to figure out what font the word "Tennessee" is supposed to be in on their primary route marker. It doesn't say in the spec, and I know of at least four different fonts in use.
Title: Re: Different Fonts!?
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 22, 2024, 01:24:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 22, 2024, 12:36:57 AM
Georgia isn't the only state with route marker inconsistency, though. Good luck trying to figure out what font the word "Tennessee" is supposed to be in on their primary route marker. It doesn't say in the spec, and I know of at least four different fonts in use.

So what you're saying is that the primary shields I make for the website I help run are more consistent than the ones in the field? Damn, lmao.

Sometimes it feels like out of the three states the Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia Railway ran through, ALDOT has the best, or at least most consistent, signage. There's plenty enough bad locally-maintained signage across this state to more than make-up for ALDOT's relative bright-spots, though...