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Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways

Started by mrpablue, May 05, 2018, 02:59:06 AM

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mrpablue

Is this ok? Do you tolerate this?

Examples:

CA299/5

OR22/5

WA512/5

Breezewood, depending how you look at it

You get the idea. Your thoughts?


Bickendan

OR 217 at I-5
OR 224 at I-205 (technicality, but will be a valid entry once the Sunrise Project is fully finished)
Delta Highway at OR 569
Aforementioned OR 22 at I-5
Future: OR 62 at I-5

WA 512 at I-5 used to be a full interchange, now qualifies
WA 518 at WA 509
WA 509 at I-705
WA 303 at WA 3
WA 99 at itself/WA 509
US 395 at I-90 (technicality)

US 169 at US 14 (technicality)
US 14 at US 52/63
US 63 at US 52
US 52 at I-90
US 63/MN 30 at I-90 (technicality)
US 10/61 at I-90/US 12 (technicality)
MN 101 at I-94
MN 101 at US 10

hotdogPi

MA 140 at MA 24 in Taunton
I-291 (MA) at I-90

People have complained about the second one.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus several state routes

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New clinches: MA 286
New traveled: MA 14, MA 123

DandyDan

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froggie

Quote from: BickendanUS 169 at US 14 (technicality)

Not with two traffic signals south of 14 before you even get to the interchange...

QuoteUS 14 at US 52/63

MnDOT classifies 14 as expressway, not freeway, despite the interchange at West Circle.

QuoteUS 63/MN 30 at I-90 (technicality)

Not a freeway and with multiple at-grades between 48th and I-90.

QuoteUS 10/61 at I-90/US 12 (technicality)

How?  There are multiple traffic signals between 494 and 94, including two fairly close to 94.

QuoteMN 101 at I-94

Southbound only.  And even then, there's a signal at Diamond Lake Rd before one gets to 94.

(Your other Minnesota examples, though, are legit.)


Another example not mentioned yet:  MS 7 at US 278/MS 6 in Oxford.

US 89

I hate these. It suggests laziness and a lack of effort by the DOT to build a whole freeway and then not build a full system interchange  where it intersects another freeway.

US 40 at I-80: it’s a SPUI. There are two direct ramps, but that’s not enough.
UT 154 (Bangerter Highway) at I-15: Bangerter is now a freeway from I-15 to 2700 West, but it ends at a SPUI on I-15.
US 89 at I-84: 89 is a freeway from Antelope Dr all the way up to 84, but the 84/89 interchange has traffic lights and at-grade intersections.

Mapmikey

VA 37 at I-81 south of Winchester.

WV 43 at I-68 near Morgantown.

NC 295 at I-95/US 13 (partial) near Fayetteville.

US 29 at I-64 Charlottesville?


mgk920

Quote from: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI

US 12 at I-90/94 - Lake Delton (Wisconsin Dells area), WI.
US 12/WI 29 at I-94 - Roberts, WI.

Mike

webny99

If a freeway ends at an at-grade, then it can't also end at a freeway - because the at-grade makes it not a freeway.
Does that not seem like a logical conclusion?  :hmmm:

(ETA: Future US 219 (freeway) and I-86 will be a diamond interchange, is this along the lines of what the OP is looking for?)

hotdogPi

Quote from: webny99 on May 05, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
If a freeway ends at an at-grade, then it can't also and at a freeway - because the at-grade makes it not a freeway.
Does that not seem like a logical conclusion?  :hmmm:

Except in Tulsa, where two freeways end at the same at-grade intersection.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus several state routes

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New clinches: MA 286
New traveled: MA 14, MA 123

jp the roadgeek

How about I-676 with itself?  FHWA sees it all as one route, but PennDOT and NJDOT see them as separate.  They are connected by an at-grade interchange in Center City Philadelphia

US 5 and MA 57 freeways.  MA 57 ends in a traffic circle. 

I-587 at I-87
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

Eth


Roadwarriors79

#13
In AZ, Loop 303 at I-17. Freeway-to-freeway ramps are planned sometime in the distant future. For now, it works. Traffic isn't too bad at this intersection.

AZ 143 at I-10 was also mentioned. Only one of the four movements (EB 10 to NB 143) requires going through a traffic signal. There have been plans in the past to completely rebuild this interchange, but only minor improvements are scheduled anytime soon. Biggest improvement needed is a flyover to replace the loop ramp connecting SB 143 to EB 10.

SSOWorld

Quote from: mgk920 on May 05, 2018, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI

US 12 at I-90/94 - Lake Delton (Wisconsin Dells area), WI.
US 12/WI 29 at I-94 - Roberts, WI.

Mike
Was worse - WIS-29 used to interchange with US-51 at the West split at a diamond until 2008.  Now that's a Y with flyovers.  (also: U-51:I-39?)
Scott O.

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renegade

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Thing 342

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 05, 2018, 10:04:42 AM
US 29 at I-64 Charlottesville?
No need for a question mark, exiting from the freeway to I-64 E requires crossing traffic from US-29 N to I-64 W.

Others I've ventured past:
The VA-199 freeway's northern end at I-64 is a nonstandard parclo.
Wade Ave. at I-440 in Raleigh.
Summerlin Pkwy at CC 215 in West Las Vegas. (Would also include the beltway's current northern end at I-15 near Nellis, but it's not yet a freeway at that point)
Slightly complicated, but FL 826's ending at Florida's Turnpike in the Golden Glades interchange is effectively a parclo.
The northern end of I-99 in PA at I-80.

sparker

US 190 with I-35 in Temple, TX.  One of TXDOT's ubiquitous volleyballs (yes, I consider them at-grade intersections -- since signal-controlled movement governs transit from one facility to another). 

1995hoo

Quote from: Thing 342 on May 05, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 05, 2018, 10:04:42 AM
US 29 at I-64 Charlottesville?
No need for a question mark, exiting from the freeway to I-64 E requires crossing traffic from US-29 N to I-64 W.

....

I could see why the question mark might be deemed appropriate because US-29 isn't a freeway south of there. I don't know whether this is what the OP had in mind because I didn't look at a map to see the points the OP mentioned–does "end" mean the road has to end, or can a freeway downgrade to another class of road at an "at-grade interchange" while qualifying for this thread? (Looking at a map might well answer this, of course. I just didn't feel like doing so!)

Either way, something similar to that section of US-29 (a very short freeway running only from Emmet Street to I-64) for purposes of this thread might be the interchange between VA-286 (the Fairfax County Parkway) and I-95 in Newington. VA-286 has a short freeway segment northwest of that point up to Rolling Road and the Franconia—Springfield Parkway; the interchange with I-95 is essentially a cloverleaf except that the ramp on the southeast side from northbound I-95 comes up to a traffic light because Loisdale Road is on the far side. VA-286 isn't a freeway east of this point, so I'm not entirely sure this is the sort of thing the OP had in mind.
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mrpablue

Quote from: webny99 on May 05, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
If a freeway ends at an at-grade, then it can't also end at a freeway - because the at-grade makes it not a freeway.
Does that not seem like a logical conclusion?  :hmmm:

(ETA: Future US 219 (freeway) and I-86 will be a diamond interchange, is this along the lines of what the OP is looking for?)

I see how this is misleading. Sorry. What I meant is more like "freeways that terminate at other freeways but don't have a freeway-to-freeway interchange"

vdeane

Does I-95/FL 202 still count?  It's a modified parclo, though Florida appears to have done a good job of ensuring traffic between the freeways would never encounter a signal.

US 15/PA 581 has become one.  I believe PA is ready to do the same to PA 283/I-283.

A-20/A-520

A-5/ON 417 will become this if the MTO uses their preferred tunnel alternative.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

bassoon1986

Quote from: sparker on May 05, 2018, 03:40:00 PM
US 190 with I-35 in Temple, TX.  One of TXDOT's ubiquitous volleyballs (yes, I consider them at-grade intersections -- since signal-controlled movement governs transit from one facility to another).

Is this also like US 75/US 82 in Sherman, TX?


iPhone

sparker

Quote from: bassoon1986 on May 05, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
Quote from: sparker on May 05, 2018, 03:40:00 PM
US 190 with I-35 in Temple, TX.  One of TXDOT's ubiquitous volleyballs (yes, I consider them at-grade intersections -- since signal-controlled movement governs transit from one facility to another).

Is this also like US 75/US 82 in Sherman, TX?


iPhone

The configuration is similar, but both US 75 and US 82 are through movements in Sherman; US 190 needs to exit its freeway self onto the frontage roads in order to make the right-angle (left WB, right EB) turns needed for route continuation onto and off of southward I-35, which it uses south to Belton, where US 190 turns west with the nascent I-14. 

roadman65

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Flint1979

Quote from: mgk920 on May 05, 2018, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI

US 12 at I-90/94 - Lake Delton (Wisconsin Dells area), WI.
US 12/WI 29 at I-94 - Roberts, WI.

Mike
For the second one isn't that in Elk Mound instead of Roberts?



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