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The Sorry State of Affairs in Automobilia in the 1970s, 80s and 90s

Started by Max Rockatansky, April 30, 2016, 11:49:55 AM

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bugo

Quote from: kphoger on October 27, 2017, 04:01:47 PM
Here are two pictures from our family vacation this summer.
From the outside.  I love our cargo box.


I thought about getting one of those roof carriers for my HHR.


Max Rockatansky

We had one of those caps on the Astro Van back in the 1990s.  I always thought it made that thing resemble a snail like on the logo.

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briantroutman

Forgive me if this video has already been posted, but when I stumbled upon this cornucopia of Malaise-era vehicles, I immediately thought of this thread.


PHLBOS

GPS does NOT equal GOD

Max Rockatansky

Something not sorry today; an LT1 1970 Camaro Z/28:



Pretty decent channel too, lots of good information with the difference between gross/net horsepower and inflation figures usually thrown out there.

bugo

I may be the only person in the world who prefers the non-RS one piece bumper version of this body style Camaro.



I like the '67-'69 Camaro 100 times more than I like the '70-'81.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: bugo on December 26, 2017, 06:57:29 PM
I may be the only person in the world who prefers the non-RS one piece bumper version of this body style Camaro.



I like the '67-'69 Camaro 100 times more than I like the '70-'81.

Problem with the second gen Camaro was that it was only good for a couple years until the gas crisis hit.  The LT1 was by far the best 350 small block of the era.  Once the emissions controls and safety bumpers got attached Chevy didn't have anything that could compete with the Pontiac 400 you could get in the T/A. 

bugo

I don't know why Chevrolet never put a 454 in a Camaro. That would be the ultimate trailer park car: a 1970s Camaro with a 185 HP 454 jacked up in the back in primer with mismatched rally wheels.

Stephane Dumas

Quote from: bugo on December 26, 2017, 09:38:47 PM
I don't know why Chevrolet never put a 454 in a Camaro. That would be the ultimate trailer park car: a 1970s Camaro with a 185 HP 454 jacked up in the back in primer with mismatched rally wheels.

There was some prototypes of Camaros with 454 done but Chevrolet never go further. However some specialists like Berger and Baldwin-Motion did some aftermarket 454 Camaros.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/sucp-0704-1970-berger-454-camaro/
https://www.mecum.com/lots/DA0912-135952/1971-chevrolet-baldwin-motion-phase-iii-camaro/
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/makeHistory/755,11741/Baldwin-Motion_History.aspx

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Pontiac Sun Bird convertible:



My first car was a J-Body, it feels odd to see them held in somewhat high regard on a test.  145 feet from 55 MPH might as well be an eternity to stop.

73-75 Chevy Caprice convertible:


D-Dey65

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 23, 2017, 03:17:13 PM
Something back from when Lotus was actually cool:
As cool as these Lotuses are, they're also smaller than they look.

formulanone

Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 18, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 23, 2017, 03:17:13 PM
Something back from when Lotus was actually cool:
As cool as these Lotuses are, they're also smaller than they look.


Lotuses were and are always cool.

Maybe the Lotus Carlton (Type 104) isn't very small, but they're otherwise all about light curb weights and usually as elemental as a car can get.

Takumi

Quote from: formulanone on January 18, 2018, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 18, 2018, 12:11:13 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 23, 2017, 03:17:13 PM
Something back from when Lotus was actually cool:
As cool as these Lotuses are, they're also smaller than they look.


Lotuses were and are always cool.

Maybe the Lotus Carlton (Type 104) isn't very small, but they're otherwise all about light curb weights and usually as elemental as a car can get.
+1. Modern Lotuses are just as cool as the older ones, and, with Toyota engines, probably more reliable than ever. Whenever I see an Elise or Exige (haven't seen an Evora yet) I always turn my head.

The Carlton was a Lotus in name only, as it was just tuned by them.
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Olive Garden must be stopped.  I must stop them.

Don't @ me. Seriously.

D-Dey65

Quote from: Takumi on January 18, 2018, 09:04:44 PM
+1. Modern Lotuses are just as cool as the older ones, and, with Toyota engines, probably more reliable than ever. Whenever I see an Elise or Exige (haven't seen an Evora yet) I always turn my head.
When I see a Lotus Elise, I realize I could wear one as a shoe!

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My Dad had collectors edition 1982 Corvette.  That thing hardly left the garage, shame to know that my Sonic could probably take it in a drag race.


Henry

Presenting the '86 Chrysler lineup:

I've always wondered how a combined GM/Chrysler merger would work in the present, and some divisions would have to be eliminated for product overlap (mainly because they serve the same segments, like Chevy and Dodge); it's best that they remain two separate companies today.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, what do you say? The Cubs are gonna win today!

Stephane Dumas

Quote from: Henry on January 29, 2018, 10:03:01 AM
Presenting the '86 Chrysler lineup:

I've always wondered how a combined GM/Chrysler merger would work in the present, and some divisions would have to be eliminated for product overlap (mainly because they serve the same segments, like Chevy and Dodge); it's best that they remain two separate companies today.

In Iacocca's biography along with that old article from the NY Times from 1981. Ford rejected the merger offer from Chrysler. http://www.nytimes.com/1981/04/11/business/ford-says-it-rejected-chrysler-tie.html Iacocca mentionned in his biography then a Chrysler-Ford combo would had be a bigger force against GM.  Plymouth and Mercury would had been dropped. Dodge going after Pontiac(cars) and GMC (trucks).  We could wonder what if Ford had sayed yes to that offer? I wonder if they would still be able to acquire AMC after that?

In the late 1950s, George Romney who was AMC president, pushed the congress to split GM into smaller companies like how Standard Oil was in the early 20th Century and AT&T into various "Baby Bells" but no success.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1913&dat=19580210&id=QnIgAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TGcFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1185,3782658&hl=fr
https://books.google.ca/books?id=PerGbKxOPZYC&pg=PA187&lpg=PA187&dq=george+romney+GM+split&source=bl&ots=0dlufSjw0X&sig=n0Qm1Zqyt482N4PUUAAf5VfwzQ0&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjppNPcwufMAhUI7BQKHZziCooQ6AEIQjAG#v=onepage&q=george%20romney%20GM%20split&f=false

Max Rockatansky

There are persistent rumors that GM intentionally tried to shed market share in the early 1970s during the OPEC crisis due to threats of being declared a monopoly.  Hard to believe that they really once had over 60% of the domestic market share back in the 1960s...

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kkt

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 29, 2018, 09:08:48 PM
There are persistent rumors that GM intentionally tried to shed market share in the early 1970s during the OPEC crisis due to threats of being declared a monopoly.  Hard to believe that they really once had over 60% of the domestic market share back in the 1960s...

In the mid-1960s they might well have been trying to shed market share.  But the first oil crisis was 1973, and by then too high market share was no longer a worry.

Max Rockatansky




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