Which remaing Northeast 65 state is most likely to raise their speed limit.

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Quote from: cl94 on November 06, 2017, 02:44:14 PM
Heck, coming across a surface road signed at 50 in CT is like finding a unicorn. If NY would post 55, CT typically posts 45 or less. Granted, few people follow the limits, but if you get stuck behind a person going the speed limit in one of those ridiculous 35-45 zones, it's painful. And 55? CT is the ONLY state that won't post a road with at-grades at 55 (unless there's one I'm missing somewhere) under any circumstances (even though the law allows it).
I did 55 just to see how it was.. holy crap it's slow.. good thing the CSP is not really strict like say VA state police.

Interstatefan78

For NJ Interstate highways that can go 75-80 mph are I-78 NJ PA Border to Bergen Street Overpass Newark, NJ 56 miles Eastbound but 54 miles westbound since at mp 2 I-78 west is 55 mph towards Easton,PA toll plaza where the PA 65-70 mph speed limit starts after exit 75
I-287 Morristown area
I-95 NJ Turnpike
I-295 Camden to Delaware Border
Atlantic City Expressway
https://www.nj.com/data/2018/08/should_the_speed_limit_on_njs_highways_be_higher_we_used_a_radar_gun_to_find_the_answer.html
Other interstate grade freeways such as RT-18 Exit 30 US-9 to RT-138 I-195  can go 75 mph provided that Declan'O Scanlon can get his engineering speed limit bill proposal to be a
approved by the Legislature
https://www.senatenj.com/index.php/oscanlon/oscanlon-introduces-fact-based-speed-limit-bill/39427

tckma

Quote from: Interstatefan78 on October 17, 2018, 01:38:11 AM
For NJ Interstate highways that can go 75-80 mph are...

What about I-80 from Exit 4 through I-287?  That road goes through a metric crapton of Absolutely NothingTM.

Alps

Quote from: tckma on October 17, 2018, 08:56:01 AM
Quote from: Interstatefan78 on October 17, 2018, 01:38:11 AM
For NJ Interstate highways that can go 75-80 mph are...

What about I-80 from Exit 4 through I-287?  That road goes through a metric crapton of Absolutely NothingTM.
A lot of curvature in there - the design speed may actually be no greater than 70 mph in many stretches. BTW, from NJ 15 (exit 34) through I-287, it is not going through nothing by any stretch of the imagination.
In terms of 75 mph, I'd start with NJ Turnpike, GSP Express Lanes, I-80 Express Lanes, western I-78, and I-195.

cl94

Quote from: Alps on October 17, 2018, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: tckma on October 17, 2018, 08:56:01 AM
Quote from: Interstatefan78 on October 17, 2018, 01:38:11 AM
For NJ Interstate highways that can go 75-80 mph are...

What about I-80 from Exit 4 through I-287?  That road goes through a metric crapton of Absolutely NothingTM.
A lot of curvature in there - the design speed may actually be no greater than 70 mph in many stretches. BTW, from NJ 15 (exit 34) through I-287, it is not going through nothing by any stretch of the imagination.
In terms of 75 mph, I'd start with NJ Turnpike, GSP Express Lanes, I-80 Express Lanes, western I-78, and I-195.

Please, they could make the Turnpike 80 and still get people for speeding.

I'd limit 80 to 70 as well, honestly, due to curvature.
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Quote from: Duke87 on November 06, 2017, 10:37:58 PM
I've clinched Rhode Island and I don't recall there being any. RI pretty much copies CT on speed limits - rural 2 lane roads are typically 40 or 45, with the occasional 50 if the road is improved to the highest standards the state will improve a 2 lane road to. But no 55s.

That said, every other state in the continental US has 2 lane roads posted at 55 or better. Including MA, NH, and VT, which while they all post it very sparingly do have a nonzero number of 55 zones on 2 lane roads.
Can't think of a single two-lane road in Delaware that has a speed limit over 50 (and I spend a lot of time at work looking at Street View/looking for speed limit signs for certain roads), plus its the statutory limit on a rural two-lane (yes I know the limit for "divided highways" was exceeded on 95/495 but that is a separate case anyway).
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Quote from: cl94 on October 17, 2018, 06:37:50 PM
Quote from: Alps on October 17, 2018, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: tckma on October 17, 2018, 08:56:01 AM
Quote from: Interstatefan78 on October 17, 2018, 01:38:11 AM
For NJ Interstate highways that can go 75-80 mph are...

What about I-80 from Exit 4 through I-287?  That road goes through a metric crapton of Absolutely NothingTM.
A lot of curvature in there - the design speed may actually be no greater than 70 mph in many stretches. BTW, from NJ 15 (exit 34) through I-287, it is not going through nothing by any stretch of the imagination.
In terms of 75 mph, I'd start with NJ Turnpike, GSP Express Lanes, I-80 Express Lanes, western I-78, and I-195.

Please, they could make the Turnpike 80 and still get people for speeding.

I'd limit 80 to 70 as well, honestly, due to curvature.

They could make the speed limit 80 on any NJ highway and it would easily be exceeded by many.

tckma

Quote from: Duke87 on November 06, 2017, 10:37:58 PM
That said, every other state in the continental US has 2 lane roads posted at 55 or better. Including MA, NH, and VT, which while they all post it very sparingly do have a nonzero number of 55 zones on 2 lane roads.

There are NO two-lane (non-Super-2) roads I can think of in Massachusetts posted higher than 50.  That includes, believe it or not, MA-2 and MA-9 as well as US-20.  55 or higher in Mass requires four lanes or more.  The ONLY exception I can think of is the Super-2 section of the MA-2/US-202 concurrency between Leominster and I-91, which I believe is only posted at 55.

Granted, I haven't lived in Mass in ten years, returning in 2009 for a few days when my house finally sold, and I went to the Big E once since then... but I doubt very highly that MA has raised any speed limits in the intervening years.

hotdogPi

Quote from: tckma on October 18, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 06, 2017, 10:37:58 PM
That said, every other state in the continental US has 2 lane roads posted at 55 or better. Including MA, NH, and VT, which while they all post it very sparingly do have a nonzero number of 55 zones on 2 lane roads.

There are NO two-lane roads I can think of in Massachusetts posted higher than 50.  That includes, believe it or not, MA-2 and MA-9 as well as US-20.  55 or higher in Mass requires four lanes or more.  The ONLY exception I can think of is the Super-2 section of the MA-2/US-202 concurrency between Leominster and I-91, which I believe is only posted at 55.

Granted, I haven't lived in Mass in ten years, returning in 2009 for a few days when my house finally sold, and I went to the Big E once since then... but I doubt very highly that MA has raised any speed limits in the intervening years.

US 1 between Newburyport and Ipswich is posted at 55. It's almost perfectly straight.
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Quote from: 1 on October 18, 2018, 11:53:58 AM
Quote from: tckma on October 18, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 06, 2017, 10:37:58 PM
That said, every other state in the continental US has 2 lane roads posted at 55 or better. Including MA, NH, and VT, which while they all post it very sparingly do have a nonzero number of 55 zones on 2 lane roads.

There are NO two-lane roads I can think of in Massachusetts posted higher than 50.  That includes, believe it or not, MA-2 and MA-9 as well as US-20.  55 or higher in Mass requires four lanes or more.  The ONLY exception I can think of is the Super-2 section of the MA-2/US-202 concurrency between Leominster and I-91, which I believe is only posted at 55.

Granted, I haven't lived in Mass in ten years, returning in 2009 for a few days when my house finally sold, and I went to the Big E once since then... but I doubt very highly that MA has raised any speed limits in the intervening years.

US 1 between Newburyport and Ipswich is posted at 55. It's almost perfectly straight.
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froggie

^ As does MA 119.  I want to say I've seen a 55 stretch along MA 68 northwest of Holden, but I'm not 100% on that.

vdeane

I believe there's a section or two of US 7 with 55 in MA as well.
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PHLBOS

Quote from: froggie on October 18, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
^ As does MA 119.
NH 119 has but if this Sept. 2008 GSV of MA 119 east of the NH border is still true & current; it only has a posted speed of 50.

Quote from: froggie on October 18, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
I want to say I've seen a 55 stretch along MA 68 northwest of Holden, but I'm not 100% on that.
As of Aug. 2011, MA 68 in Rutland has/had a posted speed of 50.

FYI: in MA, the assumed speed limit (i.e. no signs present) along a two-lane road that's not in a thickly-settled district is 40... unless posted otherwise.
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froggie

Quote from: PHLBOS on October 18, 2018, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: froggie on October 18, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
^ As does MA 119.

NH 119 has but if this Sept. 2008 GSV of MA 119 east of the NH border is still true & current; it only has a posted speed of 50.

Earlier this year is when I saw 55 along MA 119.  I don't remember offhand where but it was definitely BEFORE I got to the New Hampshire line.

Duke87

Quote from: vdeane on October 18, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
I believe there's a section or two of US 7 with 55 in MA as well.

There is.

55 zones on two-lane roads in MA are uncommon, but they do exist.
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cl94

Quote from: Duke87 on October 19, 2018, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: vdeane on October 18, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
I believe there's a section or two of US 7 with 55 in MA as well.

There is.

55 zones on two-lane roads in MA are uncommon, but they do exist.

If we disregard short reductions to 45-50 for curves/intersections, there are four 55 zones along US 7 in MA. Ashley Falls bypass, Sheffield-Great Barrington, Lenox bypass (4 lanes), and Lanesborough-Williamstown. US 7 may have more undivided 55 sections than any other 2-lane road in the state (3).

Quote from: froggie on October 18, 2018, 03:15:16 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 18, 2018, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: froggie on October 18, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
^ As does MA 119.

NH 119 has but if this Sept. 2008 GSV of MA 119 east of the NH border is still true & current; it only has a posted speed of 50.

Earlier this year is when I saw 55 along MA 119.  I don't remember offhand where but it was definitely BEFORE I got to the New Hampshire line.


The westernmost mile of MA 119 is 55 per GIS. I wish MassDOT's GIS viewer had a speed limit layer. That would make this task easy.
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MA 8 is also 55 MPH at it's southernmost end. I want to say maybe the first two or three miles in Massachusetts is 55.

cl94

Quote from: upstatenyroads on October 19, 2018, 06:17:43 PM
MA 8 is also 55 MPH at it's southernmost end. I want to say maybe the first two or three miles in Massachusetts is 55.

3.5 miles. Which is weird, because the CT side sure as hell isn't 55.

MassDOT's GIS viewer is here if anyone wants to take a look. Toggle between the various layers and use the "query" tool to select a segment you want to learn more about. The most interesting feature isn't the speed limits, but how little of the network is actually under MassDOT jurisdiction (we can discuss that more in the MA thread).
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Since I'm at my in-laws tonight who live near it, most of MA 88 is 2 lanes and also 55 MPH.  The southern end across the drawbridge to Horseneck Beach isn't, nor are the traffic signal intersections (along the lines of what cl94 mentioned), but everything else in between is 55.

roadman65

Quote from: Duke87 on October 19, 2018, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: vdeane on October 18, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
I believe there's a section or two of US 7 with 55 in MA as well.

There is.

55 zones on two-lane roads in MA are uncommon, but they do exist.
Williamstown to Pittsfield is 55.
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Quote from: kphoger on November 14, 2017, 02:11:28 PM
Well, 1995hoo and I certainly drove out of state with learner's permits, and I'm sure there must be others on the forum like us.  It never even occurred to me that someone would avoid driving out of state on a learner's permit–until someone told me once that some states don't honor out-of-state permits as a valid license, that is.

I know this an old post, but since the thread got revived, I figured I might as well add that I drove in both Pennsylvania and Ohio, and possibly Michigan, on just a learner's permit. With a licensed adult in the vehicle, of course.

I never drove in Canada with just a learner's permit, as I'm pretty sure that's illegal, plus at that age, I would have been a nervous wreck crossing the border as the driver.

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Quote from: tckma on October 18, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
There are NO two-lane (non-Super-2) roads I can think of in Massachusetts posted higher than 50.  That includes, believe it or not, MA-2 and MA-9 as well as US-20.  55 or higher in Mass requires four lanes or more.  The ONLY exception I can think of is the Super-2 section of the MA-2/US-202 concurrency between Leominster and I-91, which I believe is only posted at 55.

MA 10 between I-91 and MA 63 (Bernardston/Northfield) has been posted 55 for at least the last 30 years.

RobbieL2415

Quote from: tckma on October 18, 2018, 11:52:55 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 06, 2017, 10:37:58 PM
That said, every other state in the continental US has 2 lane roads posted at 55 or better. Including MA, NH, and VT, which while they all post it very sparingly do have a nonzero number of 55 zones on 2 lane roads.

There are NO two-lane (non-Super-2) roads I can think of in Massachusetts posted higher than 50.  That includes, believe it or not, MA-2 and MA-9 as well as US-20.  55 or higher in Mass requires four lanes or more.  The ONLY exception I can think of is the Super-2 section of the MA-2/US-202 concurrency between Leominster and I-91, which I believe is only posted at 55.

Granted, I haven't lived in Mass in ten years, returning in 2009 for a few days when my house finally sold, and I went to the Big E once since then... but I doubt very highly that MA has raised any speed limits in the intervening years.
You're forgetting MA 49.  US 6 from Dennis to Orleans used to be 55 before they added that half-assed median and lowered it to 50.



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