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Parts of Texas rising and sinking

Started by SectorZ, March 21, 2018, 11:40:23 AM

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SectorZ

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-radar-images-large-swath-texas.html

QuoteRadar satellite images show significant movement of the ground across a 4000-square-mile area–in one place as much as 40 inches over the past two-and-a-half years, say the geophysicists.

Not directly road related, but certainly a problem that could affect a lot of infrastructure, including roads, in that region.



Brandon

That's not uncommon in areas where liquids (oil in this case) have been removed from the ground.  In places where groundwater is taken from a shallow sand/gravel aquifer, the rates of subsidence can be alarming.  Then there's also isostatic rebound that one can find in places like the upper Midwest from the removal of the glaciers thousands of years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundwater-related_subsidence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isostasy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound
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roadman65

Did not Nostradamus predict Florida would sink completely?  Or was it Southern California after a big earthquake?
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abefroman329

Quote from: roadman65 on March 28, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
Did not Nostradamus predict Florida would sink completely?  Or was it Southern California after a big earthquake?

What did Paulie Walnuts call him?  Quasimodo?

roadman65

I heard of everything Nostradamus from fellow employees at my old job who feared that NYC would go up in a ball of fire due to him predicting that JFK would be murdered (and was right about that one) one slow day in our restaurant.  In my own church we are considered not to believe him as he is considered a false prophet, so he is like any other person especially like that one nut job who predicted the world would end over five years ago.  Of course we are all still here!
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

triplemultiplex

Nostradamus didn't predict shit.
People take his words and retroactively fudge them with loose interpretations as needed to make them seem predictive well after the event supposedly predicted.  It's garbage promoted by unscrupulous entertainment channels presenting themselves as outlets for documentaries.
"That's just like... your opinion, man."

roadman65

Quote from: triplemultiplex on April 03, 2018, 10:16:51 AM
Nostradamus didn't predict shit.
People take his words and retroactively fudge them with loose interpretations as needed to make them seem predictive well after the event supposedly predicted.  It's garbage promoted by unscrupulous entertainment channels presenting themselves as outlets for documentaries.
Whatever, his words are like many others who claim to know a lot.  Many who I won't mention because it can stir up flame wars and the fact that certain names can cause the conversation to shift into the politics and religion realm forbidden in the rules.

However, some people back when the first recession happened in 1990, were discussing it related to current events.  IMO I will live my life as if tomorrow will be here, and if its not, then it was a good life!  I told my old boss it back then and I will live my life without all these trying to say that some figures in history or in the present who know the fate of civilization to scare me!
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Stephane Dumas

Could Oklahoma face the same troubles with shale gas as well?

Meanwhile, looks like Yellowstone might not be the only supervolcano/caldera, there might be another at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.
http://yournewswire.com/gulf-mexico-supervolcano-erupt/

kalvado

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on April 09, 2018, 11:06:24 AM
Could Oklahoma face the same troubles with shale gas as well?

Meanwhile, looks like Yellowstone might not be the only supervolcano/caldera, there might be another at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.
http://yournewswire.com/gulf-mexico-supervolcano-erupt/
There are much more than 2 supervolcanos; Yellowstone is noticeable because it is one of the biggest, and ripe for eruption.
There was a significant concern about Laguna del Maule a few years ago, but looks like that one did slow down. Phlegraean Fields in Italy was also a hot spot for a while. Overall, we know enough to understand the issue - but not enough to predict and prevent.
So, you never know when it is going to snow this summer...

inkyatari

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on April 09, 2018, 11:06:24 AM
Meanwhile, looks like Yellowstone might not be the only supervolcano/caldera, there might be another at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.
http://yournewswire.com/gulf-mexico-supervolcano-erupt/

I wouldn't trust anything from yournewswire
I'm never wrong, just wildly inaccurate.

roadman65

I do know that Oklahoma does experience earthquakes from the residuals from the methods used to extract natural gas!
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

kalvado

Quote from: inkyatari on April 09, 2018, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on April 09, 2018, 11:06:24 AM
Meanwhile, looks like Yellowstone might not be the only supervolcano/caldera, there might be another at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.
http://yournewswire.com/gulf-mexico-supervolcano-erupt/

I wouldn't trust anything from yournewswire
I couldn't find any scientific publications on the topic. Here is the map of known supervolcanos:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Supervolcano_World_Map.png
Many of them are ready to act. Once in a while they exhibit some activity, resulting in news panic -but so far nothing serious for past 200 years. Keep your fingers crossed. 
In general, claim about increased Gulf  water temperature is... strange. It is very difficult for me to believe that could happen due to heat transfer from underlying magma - Yellowstown gets some hot water, but not uniformly much warmer, not on the scale of the Gulf of Mexico. And sea is a very good heatsink. If anything, such cooling could be a good discharging mechanism for accumulated volcanic energy. There are reports about marine  wildlife problems associated with water conditions in the gulf, though - and fertilizer run-off is certainly a contributing factor.

hotdogPi

Quote from: kalvado on April 10, 2018, 12:13:13 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on April 09, 2018, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on April 09, 2018, 11:06:24 AM
Meanwhile, looks like Yellowstone might not be the only supervolcano/caldera, there might be another at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.
http://yournewswire.com/gulf-mexico-supervolcano-erupt/

I wouldn't trust anything from yournewswire
I couldn't find any scientific publications on the topic. Here is the map of known supervolcanos:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Supervolcano_World_Map.png
Many of them are ready to act. Once in a while they exhibit some activity, resulting in news panic -but so far nothing serious for past 200 years. Keep your fingers crossed. 
In general, claim about increased Gulf  water temperature is... strange. It is very difficult for me to believe that could happen due to heat transfer from underlying magma - Yellowstown gets some hot water, but not uniformly much warmer, not on the scale of the Gulf of Mexico. And sea is a very good heatsink. If anything, such cooling could be a good discharging mechanism for accumulated volcanic energy. There are reports about marine  wildlife problems associated with water conditions in the gulf, though - and fertilizer run-off is certainly a contributing factor.

Yournewswire is a fake news website.
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