Department of Redundancy Department

[jbnv]

If one is trying to argue that Clearview isn't easier to read than FHWA, don't use this picture. 

[roadman]

If one is trying to argue that Clearview isn't easier to read than FHWA, don't use this picture. 

No different that state DOTs replacing 30 year old Highway Gothic BGSes with brand new Clearview ones, and then claiming the improved visibility is due to using a new font.

[Zeffy]

No different that state DOTs replacing 30 year old Highway Gothic BGSes with brand new Clearview ones, and then claiming the improved visibility is due to using a new font.

Of course, other new BGSes in states that haven't fallen victim to the Clearview bandwagon are perfectly legible, and (usually) don't end up looking like pieces of poop like many Clearview signs do.

[jeffandnicole]

If one is trying to argue that Clearview isn't easier to read than FHWA, don't use this picture. 

No different that state DOTs replacing 30 year old Highway Gothic BGSes with brand new Clearview ones, and then claiming the improved visibility is due to using a new font.

This brought back a small memory, road related.  It was a commercial for 3M, and the claim was the material on their stop signs allowed the sign to be brighter at night than material used by a competitor.

To show the effectivness of the product, they showed a car at a normal 2 lane intersection.  Stop signs were on both sides of the road.  The 3M sign, used on the right, was definitely brighter than the competitor sign on the left. 

What the ad didn't say: Cars stay to the right.  Thus, the sign on the right received the benefits of the headlines shining almost directly on the sign. 

[PHLBOS]

If one is trying to argue that Clearview isn't easier to read than FHWA, don't use this picture. 

No different that state DOTs replacing 30 year old Highway Gothic BGSes with brand new Clearview ones, and then claiming the improved visibility is due to using a new font.

Not to mention the fact that the new BGS is located closer to the driver than the old BGS.

[PColumbus73]

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+myrtle+beach&ll=33.821086,-78.670882&spn=0.000513,0.000603&hnear=North+Myrtle+Beach,+Horry+County,+South+Carolina&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=33.821002,-78.670896&panoid=jo_Jee2aQhFdFgcZlVMCDw&cbp=12,337.22,,0,0

In case you didn't know what intersection this is

[Zeffy]

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+myrtle+beach&ll=33.821086,-78.670882&spn=0.000513,0.000603&hnear=North+Myrtle+Beach,+Horry+County,+South+Carolina&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=33.821002,-78.670896&panoid=jo_Jee2aQhFdFgcZlVMCDw&cbp=12,337.22,,0,0

In case you didn't know what intersection this is

Now that's a waste of money on signs.    Also, the STOP sign looks ugly because it's so low to the ground on that post.

[PColumbus73]

Not to mention that all the new signblades (and other signs) are Clearview

[Zeffy]

Not to mention that all the new signblades (and other signs) are Clearview

That 'DR' makes me wanna .

[PColumbus73]

I digress, but I think this sign blade is worse:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=north+myrtle+beach&ll=33.8235,-78.672257&spn=0.000516,0.000603&hnear=North+Myrtle+Beach,+Horry+County,+South+Carolina&t=h&layer=c&cbll=33.823451,-78.672246&panoid=zaYzy0mnR4md5jPPgPsWCA&cbp=12,234.38,,1,6.21&z=21

Will post in Worst of Road Signs

[myosh_tino]

Photo posted at Skyscraper City by ChrisZwolle

Notes:
* One of the replies references the Department of Redundancy Department thread here at AARoads.
* Another reply introduces Alanland to Skyscraper City.

[formulanone]

It's for all Interstates One through Five Hundred Ninety-Five, inclusive.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

Photo posted at Skyscraper City by Chris (He is also a member of this forum )

Notes:
* One of the replies references the Department of Redundancy Department thread here at AARoads.
* Another reply introduces Alanland to Skyscraper City.

I was about to put that photo here, which was tweeted by... AARoads. The reference to this thread was made by me , I changed my avatar in SSC to a bus route 41 LED display recently. The Alanland post was made by sotonsi, who (I pressume) is english si here.

[xcellntbuy]

Photo posted at Skyscraper City by ChrisZwolle

Notes:
* One of the replies references the Department of Redundancy Department thread here at AARoads.
* Another reply introduces Alanland to Skyscraper City.

Dear God.  That "thing" is brand-spankin' new, too.

[english si]

The Alanland post was made by sotonsi, who (I pressume) is english si here.

yep

[ethanhopkin14]

Texas loves to do this:



Sorry it is so blurry, but the bottom shields are SH 71 business shields.  There are a lot of instances where Texas has BUSINESS written in the shield itself, then have a second banner above it also saying BUSINESS.  Are there any other states that do this?

[Brian556]

According to the TxDOT sign crew field book, the double business signage is correct, unfortunately.

[ethanhopkin14]

According to the TxDOT sign crew field book, the double business signage is correct, unfortunately.

But not always practiced.  I have seen the business on the shield and no banner used as well.

And whats up with the business loop and spur saying "INTERSTATE"in the field book?

[Brian556]

In Denton County it is not practiced. The word INTERATATE in the shields is just an error, it is not like that in the field.

[cjk374]

According to the TxDOT sign crew field book, the double business signage is correct, unfortunately.

But not always practiced.  I have seen the business on the shield and no banner used as well.

And whats up with the business loop and spur saying "INTERSTATE"in the field book?

What does the "A" at the bottom of the shield indicate?

[Brian556]

Many routes have multiple business routes, each in a different city/town. This identifies them.

[1995hoo]

In Denton County it is not practiced. The word INTERATATE in the shields is just an error, it is not like that in the field.

That's true everywhere. 

[ethanhopkin14]

In Denton County it is not practiced. The word INTERATATE in the shields is just an error, it is not like that in the field.

We'll yeah.  I get ya. But this is in the field book.  No wonder so many errors are made.  You always have to think about who is installing the signs. They are not road buffs. They don't care if it is correct or not, just if their paycheck is on time. You have a field book telling some guy who doesn't know the first thing about the stuff we know what to do that has errors in it!!   Makes me cringe.

[Brian556]

I was a rare expection. Most sign crew employees are not interested in roads and signs, and do not have engineering knowledge. They really can't do anything beyond repairing damaged signs.

[Takumi]

Is the road closed sign necessary?