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Tarkus:

--- Quote from: xonhulu on October 15, 2009, 12:57:39 PM ---In fact, I never thought 214 should even go to the Woodburn exit; that should be 211. 

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That's a really good point.  I always thought that the way the routes were designated around Woodburn was a bit screwy.  219 made a little bit more sense when it used to be routed down River Road to Salem, but the current alignment between St. Paul and Woodburn is really kind of silly, and the little stretch of 214 to I-5 is just so disconnected.  Apparently, when 219 still went to Salem, the 214 designation went all the way out to St. Paul.

Signing it as 211 would also perhaps promote the fact that there's a fairly direct way to get from I-5 to Mt. Hood from Marion County, too.

And of course, I'm not sure that the 211 designation really fits 211 all that well . . . it goes east-west for much of its length.  And 214 goes largely north-south.  I'd almost consider making 211 into 214 and then turning existing 214 into 215.

-Alex (Tarkus)

xonhulu:

--- Quote from: Tarkus on October 15, 2009, 01:52:42 PM ---That's a really good point.  I always thought that the way the routes were designated around Woodburn was a bit screwy.  219 made a little bit more sense when it used to be routed down River Road to Salem, but the current alignment between St. Paul and Woodburn is really kind of silly, and the little stretch of 214 to I-5 is just so disconnected.  Apparently, when 219 still went to Salem, the 214 designation went all the way out to St. Paul.
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Not quite right.  219 left River Road in St Paul and took the St Paul Highway east to French Prairie Rd, then south on it (as it does today) until the junction with the Hillsboro-Silverton Hwy.  Today, 219 turns east towards Woodburn here, but historically 219 continued south on French Prairie Rd and then remerged with River Rd on into Salem, and 214 was on the route to Woodburn.  So 214 never made it to St Paul.  Two by-the-ways: the highway between French Prairie Rd and 99E in Woodburn was originally OR 242 back in the 30's-50's; and there is still one sign on River Rd in north Keizer which has a 219 shield on it.


--- Quote ---And of course, I'm not sure that the 211 designation really fits 211 all that well . . . it goes east-west for much of its length.  And 214 goes largely north-south.  I'd almost consider making 211 into 214 and then turning existing 214 into 215.
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More history: originally 213 didn't make it to Salem, or even Molalla.  It just ran from the Portland Airport to US 99E in Gladstone.  The highway between Oregon City and Molalla was OR 215.  OR 211 ran from Sandy through Estacada to Molalla, as it does today, but at Molalla it turned south and continued to Salem via Silverton as 213 does today.  The road between Molalla and Woodburn had no state route designation.  When 213 took over 215, it also took over 211 to Salem, and at that time 211 was routed west to Woodburn.  So originally 211 was more north-south than it is today.

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