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Max Rockatansky:

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--- Quote from: Bruce on May 24, 2022, 11:50:00 PM ---All personal vehicles seeking to drive the Historic Columbia River Highway between Memorial Day and Labor Day will now need to register for timed-entry permits. Overcrowding at the waterfalls and other sites on the corridor have forced their hand. $2 a pop online or free in-person (in limited quantities) and required from 9 am to 6 pm daily.

https://www.oregonlive.com/travel/2022/05/new-columbia-gorge-permits-begin-tuesday-joining-other-permits-parking-fees.html

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I think a lot of people will suddenly decide the view from I-84 is just as good.

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The article and blurb make it clear that access to the waterfalls is the issue here. I-84 only has access to one (Multnomah), while the rest are on the HCRH.

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There is a substantial difference between the scenery of the HCRH and I-84.  The water fall access is the big draw but there is a lot of people who just plain like the scenic drive over the Interstate and will dog pile in their without restriction regardless of crowd size.  Basically it is the Oregon analog for something like CA 1 in Big Sur. 

doorknob60:
Another scenic alternative to I-84 is WA-14. Not quite as many waterfalls and such to stop at (and probably not as scenic as the HCRH), but if you're looking for a scenic drive, it's a great option. I bet it will see a modest increase in traffic once the permit system goes into effect.

pderocco:

--- Quote from: doorknob60 on May 25, 2022, 11:17:17 AM ---Another scenic alternative to I-84 is WA-14. Not quite as many waterfalls and such to stop at (and probably not as scenic as the HCRH), but if you're looking for a scenic drive, it's a great option. I bet it will see a modest increase in traffic once the permit system goes into effect.

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Personally, I'd take 14 over I-84 if I was looking for a pleasant ride. HCRH has Crown Point, though, and the famous view of Crown Point from the Portland Women's Forum lookout. On the other hand, for much of HCRH, the only view you've got is the trees right next to you.

Alps:

--- Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 25, 2022, 08:30:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bruce on May 25, 2022, 07:52:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: kernals12 on May 25, 2022, 07:11:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bruce on May 24, 2022, 11:50:00 PM ---All personal vehicles seeking to drive the Historic Columbia River Highway between Memorial Day and Labor Day will now need to register for timed-entry permits. Overcrowding at the waterfalls and other sites on the corridor have forced their hand. $2 a pop online or free in-person (in limited quantities) and required from 9 am to 6 pm daily.

https://www.oregonlive.com/travel/2022/05/new-columbia-gorge-permits-begin-tuesday-joining-other-permits-parking-fees.html

--- End quote ---

I think a lot of people will suddenly decide the view from I-84 is just as good.

--- End quote ---

The article and blurb make it clear that access to the waterfalls is the issue here. I-84 only has access to one (Multnomah), while the rest are on the HCRH.

--- End quote ---

There is a substantial difference between the scenery of the HCRH and I-84.  The water fall access is the big draw but there is a lot of people who just plain like the scenic drive over the Interstate and will dog pile in their without restriction regardless of crowd size.  Basically it is the Oregon analog for something like CA 1 in Big Sur. 

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I saw the two main falls on old 30 with my family. I went back to drive more of it recently and saw a few other less-touristy falls. Glad I drove it when I did (admittedly outside peak season, so didn't contend with tourist speed traffic), but no, you see NOTHING from 84 compared to old 30.

Albert:
OR 241 and US 101: Working on it. Reconstructing sidewalks east of Flanagan right now. When the project finishes, they will have new sidewalks, new curb ramps at Flanagan, and even new pavement. This project's paving will be like US 101 CB-NB project's Jun.-Sep. 2013 paving.

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