New York

[route17fan]

Lots of stuff on the construction opportunities list today. It's a sad day for classic concrete as two of them involve resurfacing.

D263239 Lake Ontario State Parkway for this one: https://www.dot.ny.gov/doing-business/opportunities/const-contract-docs?p_d_id=D263239
and
D263288 I-684 for this one: https://www.dot.ny.gov/doing-business/opportunities/const-contract-docs?p_d_id=D263288

I am really going to miss the bad-um....bad-um.....bad-um.....bad-um.....bad-um of the concrete. 

[route17fan]

https://www.dot.ny.gov/doing-business/opportunities/const-contract-docs?p_d_id=D263288 - check out the plans - book 2 - page 108 (overall page 235) and you'll see a 3-di 684 in a 2-di shield among other interesting things

[machias]

https://www.dot.ny.gov/doing-business/opportunities/const-contract-docs?p_d_id=D263288 - check out the plans - book 2 - page 108 (overall page 235) and you'll see a 3-di 684 in a 2-di shield among other interesting things

Please someone confirm that they are not still putting road names in boxed all caps legend in Region 8. That practice should have been long gone nearly 10 years ago. Time to write an email to NYSDOT again.

[vdeane]

Sadly, boxed street names are indeed in these plans.  So is their own tenth mile marker design (the did change the color scheme to match the MUTCD but still do them in Region 8 size).  And older style exit gore signs.  Basically, it looks like Region 8 prefers to pretend that NYSDOT never adopted the MUTCD.

Lots of stuff on the construction opportunities list today. It's a sad day for classic concrete as two of them involve resurfacing.

D263239 Lake Ontario State Parkway for this one: https://www.dot.ny.gov/doing-business/opportunities/const-contract-docs?p_d_id=D263239
and
D263288 I-684 for this one: https://www.dot.ny.gov/doing-business/opportunities/const-contract-docs?p_d_id=D263288

I am really going to miss the bad-um....bad-um.....bad-um.....bad-um.....bad-um of the concrete. 

That section of the Lake Ontario State Parkway already has an asphalt surface.  The concrete is only west of Hamlin Beach State Park, mostly in Orleans County (and some of it may have already been resurfaced).

[Roadgeek Adam]

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.BC_CONST_NOTICE_ADMIN.VIEWFILE?p_file_id=13701&p_is_digital=Y

I'd love to know what's going on page 22 with the NY 22 shields. It looks like someone stretched it out in MS Paint.

Also, still no sign of Taconic plans...

[empirestate]

Also, still no sign of Taconic plans...

Don't know about plans, but actual signs have been installed in northern Westchester. They're appearing along with existing signs (sometimes in front, sometimes behind) and the exit numbers are covered over for some reason.



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[Roadgeek Adam]

We know of those. I'm referring to Phase II, which does everything north of future exit 20 (in Westchester)

[cl94]

From what I have seen, everything north of US 6 is on hold.

Also in those plans are a few more FYAs. Region 5 is all of a sudden going all-out with a bunch being installed on NY 93 in Lockport, while Region 3 is putting some on NY 5 in Elbridge. I don't know of any existing FYAs in Region 3, so these may be the first.

The NY 31/36/531 project is in here as well. NB/SB are getting permissive-only FYAs.

[empirestate]

We know of those. I'm referring to Phase II, which does everything north of future exit 20 (in Westchester)

Hmm, perhaps they're waiting for the Pudding St. project before getting to that section?


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[SignBridge]

And re: another subject we were discussing a few pages back: Guess where there is now a new apparently staffed snack bar at a NYSDOT Welcome Center on an Interstate highway?

Just opened recently on Interstate-495, AKA the Long Island Expwy. between Exits 51-52 in Suffolk County, Region-10. I'm amazed. Hasn't it already been established that this cannot be done on an Interstate highway? I don't agree with that policy but is it not still a Federal rule?

[D-Dey65]

Wonder if his subordinates read this board for more project ideas to complete before reelection. If so:


I-88 extension to "Alt 7" north of Albany
I-92 from 87/Glens Falls to US 4/VT border
ALL of I-86

Yeah, and finish the damn Bear Mountain State Parkway gap while you're at it too.

And speaking of parkways in Westchester; More interchanges and other intersection eliminations.

[Mergingtraffic]

Original concrete on I-684.  I'll miss the button copy...anybody know when they were installed?

Original concrete from the 1960s. I-684 SB near Purdys, NY. by mergingtraffic, on Flickr

[PHLBOS]

Original concrete on I-684.  I'll miss the button copy...anybody know when they were installed?

Depending on section; I-684 was built between 1968 and 1974 along with its original button-copy signs

[cl94]

That concrete was rough in places the last time I was over it. New York's original concrete (still a bunch on the parkways) is not wearing particularly well and probably should have been diamond ground a long time ago.

[MikeCL]

Kinda like 95-S I have to say it held up better then I thought it would but they finally paved over it now

[machias]

Original concrete on I-684.  I'll miss the button copy...anybody know when they were installed?

Depending on section; I-684 was built between 1968 and 1974 along with its original button-copy signs

I don't think there's any original button copy along I-684 but second generation button copy. I could be wrong, but original button copy from the building of the highway would be darker green, centered exit tabs and all-text route number designations (except for Interstates).

[PHLBOS]

Original concrete on I-684.  I'll miss the button copy...anybody know when they were installed?

Depending on section; I-684 was built between 1968 and 1974 along with its original button-copy signs

I don't think there's any original button copy along I-684 but second generation button copy. I could be wrong, but original button copy from the building of the highway would be darker green, centered exit tabs and all-text route number designations (except for Interstates).

The only original button-copy BGS' near/along I-684 I'm aware of that are still around are the approach signage from I-287 eastbound.

Advance (1/2 mile) BGS along I-287 East

Exit BGS itself off I-287 East

Split-ramp signage after exiting I-287 East

[Mergingtraffic]

That concrete was rough in places the last time I was over it. New York's original concrete (still a bunch on the parkways) is not wearing particularly well and probably should have been diamond ground a long time ago.

The DOT didn't resurface it for 30 some off years...now when it gets repaved there will be touch ups after 7 and repaving after 10.

[Mergingtraffic]

Original concrete on I-684.  I'll miss the button copy...anybody know when they were installed?

Depending on section; I-684 was built between 1968 and 1974 along with its original button-copy signs

I don't think there's any original button copy along I-684 but second generation button copy. I could be wrong, but original button copy from the building of the highway would be darker green, centered exit tabs and all-text route number designations (except for Interstates).

The only original button-copy BGS' near/along I-684 I'm aware of that are still around are the approach signage from I-287 eastbound.

Advance (1/2 mile) BGS along I-287 East

Exit BGS itself off I-287 East

Split-ramp signage after exiting I-287 East

I believe I have them all on my Flickr page.
Original non-reflective button copy. Harrison, NY. I-287 EB. Notice the "Exit" word next to "1 MILE" the old way of signing it. Does this sign date to when I-87 was renumbered as I-684. by mergingtraffic, on Flickr

However, the Exit 9 N-S sign "Hutch Pkwy and Merritt Pkwy 1/4 Mile" on the WB frontage Road has a "County of Westchester" decal at the bottom. Could be a reason why some have never been replaced.

[Sam]

A HAWK pedestrian crossing popped up at NY 324 and Logan Ave. in Tonawanda (between Ted's and Anderson's). I don't remember seeing it two weeks ago. Lots of honking horns as drivers try to figure out what to do during the flashing red phase.

[cl94]

A HAWK pedestrian crossing popped up at NY 324 and Logan Ave. in Tonawanda (between Ted's and Anderson's). I don't remember seeing it two weeks ago. Lots of honking horns as drivers try to figure out what to do during the flashing red phase.

It went in over the summer. That one is a bitch.

[Roadgeek Adam]

A HAWK pedestrian crossing popped up at NY 324 and Logan Ave. in Tonawanda (between Ted's and Anderson's). I don't remember seeing it two weeks ago. Lots of honking horns as drivers try to figure out what to do during the flashing red phase.

It went in over the summer. That one is a bitch.

It's been fun to watch people have no idea what they are doing.

[SignBridge]

I assume we're talking about what the MUTCD calls Pedestrian Hybrid Beacons. (Chapter 4F) I've never seen one except in the Manual. Their stated purpose is: to facilitate pedestrian crossings at a location that does not meet traffic signal warrants. They seem like a dopey idea to me. If I was not familiar with them from the Manual, and I saw one of these things I would have no clue what to make of it and I'm sure many drivers will react that way.

[Alps]

I assume we're talking about what the MUTCD calls Pedestrian Hybrid Beacons. (Chapter 4F) I've never seen one except in the Manual. Their stated purpose is: to facilitate pedestrian crossings at a location that does not meet traffic signal warrants. They seem like a dopey idea to me. If I was not familiar with them from the Manual, and I saw one of these things I would have no clue what to make of it and I'm sure many drivers will react that way.

The easiest way would have been to have a green light that turns yellow, then red, then the red starts flashing before returning to steady green.

[route17fan]

The much-awaited Taconic State Parkway Stage 2 sign plans are out - D263236

Link: https://www.dot.ny.gov/doing-business/opportunities/const-contract-docs?p_d_id=D263236