Poll
Question:
Your opinion?
Option 1: Bad idea - traffic lights should be used instead.
votes: 1
Option 2: Bad idea - roundabouts should be used instead.
votes: 2
Option 3: Not really a fan.
votes: 3
Option 4: I'm indifferent.
votes: 6
Option 5: That might be a cool idea.
votes: 3
Option 6: Great idea - why aren't they common already?
votes: 3
Option 7: Every arterial should be a freeway!
votes: 1
Option 8: Other (please comment in thread)
votes: 1
Since June of this year (before I joined) I've been thinking about the concept of having interchanges between two in-town arterials instead of a traffic light, roundabout, or 4-way stop. I know that these do exist, with a local example being at County CE & N just east of Appleton, WI.
Does anybody know of any hybrid expressway/boulevards with some cross traffic (and maybe traffic lights) and some interchanges along the route?
And what do you think about the idea? Do you think it could do a good job at easing up congestion, or do you think the additional space needed would offset any potential benefits?
Quote from: 20160805 on October 24, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Does anybody know of any hybrid expressway/boulevards with some cross traffic (and maybe traffic lights) and some interchanges along the route?
MA 9 in most areas between Worcester and Boston
MA 16 east of I-93
US 4 near University of New Hampshire
Depending on how you want to define "city streets" , you may be interested in this rather long thread on interchanges between non-freeways.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5411.0
Quote from: 1US 4 near University of New Hampshire
I would not count this one. First off, it's not in an urban area. Second, it was deliberately built as a limited-access Durham bypass. Third, if it wasn't for a couple at-grade intersections on the north side, it would be a Super-2 freeway from NH 155 to NH 108.
Regarding the OP's post, it would mainly be on a case-by-case basis, weighing the situation and merits of a given intersection. That said, I would tend to shy away from an interchange because of the higher cost and the right-of-way requirements.
There's this one here in Illinois:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.908078,-87.8835634,419m/data=!3m1!1e3
Quote from: 20160805 on October 24, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Does anybody know of any hybrid expressway/boulevards with some cross traffic (and maybe traffic lights) and some interchanges along the route?
See earlier thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5411.0
Quote from: 1 on October 24, 2016, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: 20160805 on October 24, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Does anybody know of any hybrid expressway/boulevards with some cross traffic (and maybe traffic lights) and some interchanges along the route?
MA 9 in most areas between Worcester and Boston
MA 16 east of I-93
US 4 near University of New Hampshire
US 5, Holyoke/West Springfield, MA
Wonder if MA 33 in Chicopee, MA, around the Mass Pike would count.
Beach Blvd(US90) east of Jacksonville has interchanges with a couple major streets. Southside Blvd(SR 115) and Kernan Blvd with plans for another interchsnge at Hodges Blvd. SR 115 is not a freeway there even though a lot if maps show it as such.. There are service roads however
Kernan Blvd has interchanges at Beach Blvd and Atlantic Blvd(SR 10)
LGMS428
The US 60 Grand Avenue in the West Valley of the Phoenix metro area is a perfect example of such route. It runs diagonally across the West Valley, and some of the busiest intersections have been converted into interchanges. The newest interchange will soon be at Bell Road in Surprise.
Quote from: Rothman on October 25, 2016, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 24, 2016, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: 20160805 on October 24, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Does anybody know of any hybrid expressway/boulevards with some cross traffic (and maybe traffic lights) and some interchanges along the route?
MA 9 in most areas between Worcester and Boston
MA 16 east of I-93
US 4 near University of New Hampshire
US 5, Holyoke/West Springfield, MA
Wonder if MA 33 in Chicopee, MA, around the Mass Pike would count.
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 25, 2016, 02:15:04 PM
The US 60 Grand Avenue in the West Valley of the Phoenix metro area is a perfect example of such route. It runs diagonally across the West Valley, and some of the busiest intersections have been converted into interchanges. The newest interchange will soon be at Bell Road in Surprise.
Quote from: jwolfer on October 25, 2016, 01:11:12 PM
Beach Blvd(US90) east of Jacksonville has interchanges with a couple major streets. Southside Blvd(SR 115) and Kernan Blvd with plans for another interchsnge at Hodges Blvd. SR 115 is not a freeway there even though a lot if maps show it as such.. There are service roads however
Kernan Blvd has interchanges at Beach Blvd and Atlantic Blvd(SR 10)
LGMS428
Those sound like cool roads. :nod:
What would the speed limit most likely be on an expressway that runs through the heart of a city but has no traffic lights, just interchanges, and a low to medium density of cross traffic?
Quote from: 20160805 on October 25, 2016, 05:03:48 PM
What would the speed limit most likely be on an expressway that runs through the heart of a city but has no traffic lights, just interchanges, and a low to medium density of cross traffic?
That would vary by state and possibly county/city.
Quote from: 20160805 on October 25, 2016, 05:03:48 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 25, 2016, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 24, 2016, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: 20160805 on October 24, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Does anybody know of any hybrid expressway/boulevards with some cross traffic (and maybe traffic lights) and some interchanges along the route?
MA 9 in most areas between Worcester and Boston
MA 16 east of I-93
US 4 near University of New Hampshire
US 5, Holyoke/West Springfield, MA
Wonder if MA 33 in Chicopee, MA, around the Mass Pike would count.
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 25, 2016, 02:15:04 PM
The US 60 Grand Avenue in the West Valley of the Phoenix metro area is a perfect example of such route. It runs diagonally across the West Valley, and some of the busiest intersections have been converted into interchanges. The newest interchange will soon be at Bell Road in Surprise.
Quote from: jwolfer on October 25, 2016, 01:11:12 PM
Beach Blvd(US90) east of Jacksonville has interchanges with a couple major streets. Southside Blvd(SR 115) and Kernan Blvd with plans for another interchsnge at Hodges Blvd. SR 115 is not a freeway there even though a lot if maps show it as such.. There are service roads however
Kernan Blvd has interchanges at Beach Blvd and Atlantic Blvd(SR 10)
LGMS428
Those sound like cool roads. :nod:
What would the speed limit most likely be on an expressway that runs through the heart of a city but has no traffic lights, just interchanges, and a low to medium density of cross traffic?
in Chicago area posted 45-55 real 60-75
Metro Detroit has several between arterials.
Woodward & 8 Mile (https://goo.gl/maps/w2u2MVVaAcH2)
Telegraph & 8 Mile (https://goo.gl/maps/GtjDKcjdHDy)
Telegraph & Michigan (https://goo.gl/maps/hH4UUkCkaWD2)
Ford Road & Edward N. Hines, & Evergreen (https://goo.gl/maps/eNkpDTN46Fk)
Ford Road & Greenfield (https://goo.gl/maps/mBRBwHAQEPy)
Telegraph & Ecorse (https://goo.gl/maps/7CEUFAkaQxS2)
Michigan & Greenfield (https://goo.gl/maps/FKFtyrhwPpD2)
And that's not even mentioning all the channelization to be found throughout the area.
Quote from: 20160805 on October 24, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Does anybody know of any hybrid expressway/boulevards with some cross traffic (and maybe traffic lights) and some interchanges along the route?
Probably the most infamous one is Philadelphia's Roosevelt Blvd (US 1) and we all know how safe that road is.
Quote from: 20160805 on October 25, 2016, 05:03:48 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 25, 2016, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 24, 2016, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: 20160805 on October 24, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Does anybody know of any hybrid expressway/boulevards with some cross traffic (and maybe traffic lights) and some interchanges along the route?
MA 9 in most areas between Worcester and Boston
MA 16 east of I-93
US 4 near University of New Hampshire
US 5, Holyoke/West Springfield, MA
Wonder if MA 33 in Chicopee, MA, around the Mass Pike would count.
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 25, 2016, 02:15:04 PM
The US 60 Grand Avenue in the West Valley of the Phoenix metro area is a perfect example of such route. It runs diagonally across the West Valley, and some of the busiest intersections have been converted into interchanges. The newest interchange will soon be at Bell Road in Surprise.
Quote from: jwolfer on October 25, 2016, 01:11:12 PM
Beach Blvd(US90) east of Jacksonville has interchanges with a couple major streets. Southside Blvd(SR 115) and Kernan Blvd with plans for another interchsnge at Hodges Blvd. SR 115 is not a freeway there even though a lot if maps show it as such.. There are service roads however
Kernan Blvd has interchanges at Beach Blvd and Atlantic Blvd(SR 10)
LGMS428
Those sound like cool roads. :nod:
What would the speed limit most likely be on an expressway that runs through the heart of a city but has no traffic lights, just interchanges, and a low to medium density of cross traffic?
45 mph in FL. There is business and resdential access as welll as other traffic lights
LGMS428
Memorial Drive in Houston.
Practically every NJ arterial.