Maryland expatriate here. Now that the five year issuing window for the War of 1812 license plate has run its course (June 2010-June 2015), has Maryland resumed issuance of the pre-2010 black-on-white crest plates? I believe that this was the plan, but would be interested to know what has actually happened.
Quote from: mcmc on July 28, 2015, 06:44:23 AM
Maryland expatriate here. Now that the five year issuing window for the War of 1812 license plate has run its course (June 2010-June 2015), has Maryland resumed issuance of the pre-2010 black-on-white crest plates? I believe that this was the plan, but would be interested to know what has actually happened.
I think that may be the case.
Just yesterday, I saw what looked like a brand-new black-and-white tag with an alphabetic prefix of FZZ, which I had never seen before. Originally, that series started with NAA, then "wrapped around."
Maryland's Motor Vehicle Administration could solve that problem for a long time to come by issuing tags with four alphabetic characters and three numerics, like Ontario does.
A neighbor of mine just got new plates and they were still 1812 plates. They were the first C plates I've seen. As in the two small letters on the plates were CA.
Today I saw a 5CB in Charles County.
Quote from: mattpedersen on July 28, 2015, 07:43:13 PM
Today I saw a 5CB in Charles County.
Wonder if some places in the state are issuing the 1812 plates until they run out, then everyone will go back to the black-on-white tags, which I really like better.
A good friend of mine just moved to Carroll County and got the 1812 plates.
It's been nearly six months since the 1812 plates were to have been phased out. Has anyone seen the return of black-on-white crest plates?
I saw a 1CExxxx today in Charles County. I have not seen any new series ones yet.
I never liked that 1812 design, the older one was simple but really recognizable as a Maryland plate by the crest in the middle.
My coworker bought a "new" car last weekend at Carmax, and she got the War of 1812 with a prefix of CG. So they are still floating out there.
Quote from: mattpedersen on March 17, 2016, 11:01:46 AM
My coworker bought a "new" car last weekend at Carmax, and she got the War of 1812 with a prefix of CG. So they are still floating out there.
I really hope that the supply is used-up soon. I do not like the 1812's at all.
Maryland's Motor Vehicle Association is still showing the 1812 plate design on its website (http://www.mva.maryland.gov/vehicles/licenseplates/generallicenseplate.htm).
Quote from: cpzilliacus on July 28, 2015, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: mcmc on July 28, 2015, 06:44:23 AM
Maryland expatriate here. Now that the five year issuing window for the War of 1812 license plate has run its course (June 2010-June 2015), has Maryland resumed issuance of the pre-2010 black-on-white crest plates? I believe that this was the plan, but would be interested to know what has actually happened.
I think that may be the case.
Just yesterday, I saw what looked like a brand-new black-and-white tag with an alphabetic prefix of FZZ, which I had never seen before. Originally, that series started with NAA, then "wrapped around."
Maryland's Motor Vehicle Administration could solve that problem for a long time to come by issuing tags with four alphabetic characters and three numerics, like Ontario does.
License plate collector here. MVA was supposed to revert to the "our state flag is louder and busier than yours" crest plates last year, but they are still issuing the 1812 plates, currently in the nC/Gnnnn series. The highest crest plate issued prior to the 1812 plate was nGD-Ann. Your nFZ-Znn either is a very clean older plate, or some MVA branch that found and issued some old stock. Personally I prefer the 1812 plates; the state crest plates are plain and boring. 1812 didn't come out until after I moved to the state, so I opted for Chesapeake Bay plates.
MVA software can currently handle plates with up 7 alphanumerics, but the dies used at the Jessup state prison are sized such that 7 characters take up the whole plate, not allowing for graphics. Hence the stacked letters on the 1812 plate, so as not to block the Fort McHenry graphic on the left, and nnnnn (crest) S/G or (crest) S/G nnnnn, nnnnn (crest) L/G or (crest) L/G nnnnn on local and state government plates. ABCD-nnn a la Ontario would not work here unless Jessup moves to narrower dies, or they continued to use stacked letters when moving back to the crest plates. My thought is they will just pick up where they left off in the nGD-Ann series.
Further, some special organizational plates use a four letter stack. Port of Baltimore, for example, uses P/O/R/T nnn. In MVA software that is considered a plate number of PORTnnn. I haven't seen many of these with four letter stacks, usually they are three letters (M/E/S nnnn for Maryland's Eastern Shore, as an example, or O/C/M nnnn for Ocean City Tourism) An ABCD-nnn format would force skipping all of these four letter prefixes to avoid plate number duplications.
I saw a second CG series 1812 plate today in Upper Marlboro.
Quote from: mattpedersen on March 17, 2016, 05:31:37 PM
I saw a second CG series 1812 plate today in Upper Marlboro.
Quote from: tckma on March 17, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on July 28, 2015, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: mcmc on July 28, 2015, 06:44:23 AM
Maryland expatriate here. Now that the five year issuing window for the War of 1812 license plate has run its course (June 2010-June 2015), has Maryland resumed issuance of the pre-2010 black-on-white crest plates? I believe that this was the plan, but would be interested to know what has actually happened.
I think that may be the case.
Just yesterday, I saw what looked like a brand-new black-and-white tag with an alphabetic prefix of FZZ, which I had never seen before. Originally, that series started with NAA, then "wrapped around."
Maryland's Motor Vehicle Administration could solve that problem for a long time to come by issuing tags with four alphabetic characters and three numerics, like Ontario does.
License plate collector here. MVA was supposed to revert to the "our state flag is louder and busier than yours" crest plates last year, but they are still issuing the 1812 plates, currently in the nC/Gnnnn series. The highest crest plate issued prior to the 1812 plate was nGD-Ann. Your nFZ-Znn either is a very clean older plate, or some MVA branch that found and issued some old stock. Personally I prefer the 1812 plates; the state crest plates are plain and boring. 1812 didn't come out until after I moved to the state, so I opted for Chesapeake Bay plates.
MVA software can currently handle plates with up 7 alphanumerics, but the dies used at the Jessup state prison are sized such that 7 characters take up the whole plate, not allowing for graphics. Hence the stacked letters on the 1812 plate, so as not to block the Fort McHenry graphic on the left, and nnnnn (crest) S/G or (crest) S/G nnnnn, nnnnn (crest) L/G or (crest) L/G nnnnn on local and state government plates. ABCD-nnn a la Ontario would not work here unless Jessup moves to narrower dies, or they continued to use stacked letters when moving back to the crest plates. My thought is they will just pick up where they left off in the nGD-Ann series.
Further, some special organizational plates use a four letter stack. Port of Baltimore, for example, uses P/O/R/T nnn. In MVA software that is considered a plate number of PORTnnn. I haven't seen many of these with four letter stacks, usually they are three letters (M/E/S nnnn for Maryland's Eastern Shore, as an example, or O/C/M nnnn for Ocean City Tourism) An ABCD-nnn format would force skipping all of these four letter prefixes to avoid plate number duplications.
I have University of Baltimore plates on my truck, and they are UB0xxx. I guess MVA didn't think that there would be a need for over 10,000 UB plates running around.
Neighbor just got a new car. Received 1812 plates, 4CL.
I would love to see Maryland's Motor Vehicle Administration (MVA) go back to the Maryland "crest" tags.
What I would like to see is California-style numbering, starting with 1 AAA 001 and working up, would be great.
Quote from: tckma on March 17, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
MVA software can currently handle plates with up 7 alphanumerics, but the dies used at the Jessup state prison are sized such that 7 characters take up the whole plate, not allowing for graphics. Hence the stacked letters on the 1812 plate, so as not to block the Fort McHenry graphic on the left, and nnnnn (crest) S/G or (crest) S/G nnnnn, nnnnn (crest) L/G or (crest) L/G nnnnn on local and state government plates. ABCD-nnn a la Ontario would not work here unless Jessup moves to narrower dies, or they continued to use stacked letters when moving back to the crest plates. My thought is they will just pick up where they left off in the nGD-Ann series.
Are tags being made at Jessup any longer?
The former House of Corrections in Jessup (where the tags were made for many years, perhaps from the start of Maryland-issue license plates) was shut-down quite a few years ago. The inmates were sent to other state prisons, or in some cases to out-of-state lockups. For a while, Maryland tags were being made in New Jersey using New Jersey's distinctive dies.
Regarding 7 character tags - the Class M tags that were issued to "MPV"-type vehicles (SUVs and vans) were of formats like M123456, seven characters (though without the Maryland crest).
Quote from: cpzilliacus on August 11, 2016, 12:44:59 AM
What I would like to see is California-style numbering, starting with 1 AAA 001 and working up, would be great.
California started with 1 AAA 001 when they had reached ZZZ 999 on their original ABC 123 style.
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Are tags being made at Jessup any longer?
The former House of Corrections in Jessup (where the tags were made for many years, perhaps from the start of Maryland-issue license plates) was shut-down quite a few years ago. The inmates were sent to other state prisons, or in some cases to out-of-state lockups. For a while, Maryland tags were being made in New Jersey using New Jersey's distinctive dies.
Regarding 7 character tags - the Class M tags that were issued to "MPV"-type vehicles (SUVs and vans) were of formats like M123456, seven characters (though without the Maryland crest).
Yes, ALL Maryland plates are made in Jessup, technically by a "company" called Maryland Correctional Enterprises (MCE) that "employs" the inmates. The factory is at the corner of MD-175 and US-1. There are a bunch of prisons along that stretch of 175. As you drive toward US-1 from the truck stop, on the right, on the prison grounds, you'll see the MCE logo on the building just before the corner. There's no sign on the other side of the building.
The only plates that were made in NJ are crest-style passenger plates from 1CN A01 to 1CN Z99 and crest-style MPV plates from 895M000 to 909M999.
MVA now issues the 1812 plates to passenger cars (formerly 1AB C23 series), MPVs (formerly 12345M6 series), and trucks (formerly 123 A45 series), using the 1 A/B 2345 format for all in a single series. All other registration types still use the crest style plates. I'm not sure what will happen if they return to the crest style -- if they'll use the same format for passenger car, MPV, and truck, or if they'll go back to the three different series.
Interesting factoid: Maryland and Delaware are the ONLY states that have a separate plate format/series/registration type for SUVs and minivans.
It looks like I'm in the minority with my opinion that the crest plates were boring. They were based on the 1984 350th anniversary plates. I think it was 1987 when they became the general-issue. I just think they were bland and generic with the white background. That's why I celebrated the release of the War of 1812 plates in 2010.
However, my favorite current Maryland plate is the Treasure the Chesapeake plate. My parents have made it a rule to request Bay Plates for every car they purchase. I wouldn't mind seeing the Bay Plates as the general-issue, but it's just that they would look out of place out in the mountains of Western Maryland. I think people as far west as Frederick could get away with them, though.
Quote from: epzik8 on August 13, 2016, 07:44:40 PM
However, my favorite current Maryland plate is the Treasure the Chesapeake plate. My parents have made it a rule to request Bay Plates for every car they purchase. I wouldn't mind seeing the Bay Plates as the general-issue, but it's just that they would look out of place out in the mountains of Western Maryland. I think people as far west as Frederick could get away with them, though.
I disagree, for the most part. There are only a few places in Maryland that are not in the Chesapeake Bay's watershed. Western Garrett County (west of the Eastern Continental Divide (ECD) is in the Ohio River watershed; parts of far eastern Cecil County drains to the Christina River, and then to the Delaware Bay; and far eastern Worcester County drains either directly to the Atlantic Ocean or to the coastal bays there.
Google images is showing me two variations of the Treasure the Chesapeake plate:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.city-data.com%2Fforum%2Fattachments%2Fgeneral-u-s%2F28991d1224095534-favorite-state-license-plates-bay-plate.jpg&hash=a7dd04bf7e8860185f9bc3ccda474fa642a380cb)
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Is the top one the current one?
Quote from: 7/8 on August 15, 2016, 08:19:51 PM
Google images is showing me two variations of the Treasure the Chesapeake plate:
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Is the top one the current one?
Yes.
I have a tag from the series shown below on my pickup truck.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on August 15, 2016, 11:57:30 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 15, 2016, 08:19:51 PM
Google images is showing me two variations of the Treasure the Chesapeake plate:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.city-data.com%2Fforum%2Fattachments%2Fgeneral-u-s%2F28991d1224095534-favorite-state-license-plates-bay-plate.jpg&hash=a7dd04bf7e8860185f9bc3ccda474fa642a380cb)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.underconsideration.com%2Frandom%2Flicense_maryland2.jpg&hash=274d9568be35405ccdfa50f24957814509b0c2df)
Is the top one the current one?
Yes.
I have a tag from the series shown below on my pickup truck.
They changed styles in 2002 or 2003. The older style plates had a $20 one time fee, the newer plates, then both styles had/have to pay $10 a year extra. (which nearly made me give up the plates on my mom's 2000 Camry, my Dodge Ram / GMC Sierra have University of Baltimore alumni plates, and my gone 2008 Honda Accord just had general issue crest plates)
Quote from: 7/8 on August 15, 2016, 08:19:51 PM
Google images is showing me two variations of the Treasure the Chesapeake plate:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.city-data.com%2Fforum%2Fattachments%2Fgeneral-u-s%2F28991d1224095534-favorite-state-license-plates-bay-plate.jpg&hash=a7dd04bf7e8860185f9bc3ccda474fa642a380cb)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.underconsideration.com%2Frandom%2Flicense_maryland2.jpg&hash=274d9568be35405ccdfa50f24957814509b0c2df)
Is the top one the current one?
The style was switched in 2004. The top one is current. The bottom one is no longer issued, but can still be renewed and used. There's a $10 per year extra fee for that plate (so, $20 on top of reg. fees, since we have two year registration), which goes to some organization that promotes cleanup of the Chesapeake Bay.
On the original style, there were separate letter series for passenger cars (class A registration), SUVs/minivans (class M registration - multi-purpose vehicle - MPV - which is what the M signifies on crest plates), and light trucks like pickup trucks. I'm not sure if handicap or trailers were offered; I've never seen either. On the current style, the same series is shared between cars, MPVs, and light trucks, with separate series for trailers and handicapped plates.
The top plate is the passenger car/MPV/truck series (12345 B/Y, then 12345 C/B, then 12345 C/A, then 12345 C/C through the current 12345 C/G). The bottom plate is the MPV series (ABC-12D).
The original style also had an option to get a "BAY" number (123-BAY) for an additional ($50, I think) one-time fee, with the same option offered for MPVs (BAY-12A) and light trucks (1BY-234).
Original style:
Passenger cars: ABC-123 format
MPVs (SUVs and Minivans): ABC-12D format
Light Trucks: 1AB-234 format
Current style:
Passenger cars, MPVs, and light trucks: 12345 C/A format. The top letter is always C except for the original B/Y series that was issued. It was issued B/Y (for Bay), then C/B (for Chesapeake Bay), then C/A, then C/C forward.
Trailers: 12345 G/A format. The top letter is always G (because trailers are class G registration).
Handiacp: (wheelchair symbol) 1234 D/A format. The top letter is always D for Disabled, and we have just recently started the D/B series.
Baltimore Sun: Hogan unveils new, Maryland-flag themed license plates (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-license-plates-20160830-story.html)
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QuoteGov. Larry Hogan on Tuesday unveiled new Maryland-flag themed license plates.
QuoteThe new plates replace the War of 1812 plate commissioned by former Gov. Martin O'Malley.
QuoteThe Maryland Department of Transportation's Motor Vehicles Administration will begin issuing the plate Sept. 26.
QuoteVehicle owners will not be required to get the new license plates. Those who want to replace their existing plates with the new ones will be charged $20.
I said it on Facebook, and I'll say it again here: The state flag is ugly, looks like someone threw random paint at a cloth, and was probably designed by the same person who drew the state's borders.
That said, I prefer the 1812 plates. I'd been holding off on re-ordering my vanity plate after getting a new-to-me car so I could use the money for bills. Now that I know they'll be issuing this atrocity, I'm going to take action so I get my vanity on the 1812 plates, which I prefer. I'd previously had it on the Chesapeake Bay plates, because the 1812 plates hadn't come out yet when I moved to MD and I don't like the crest plates (again: state flag). Although I do support cleaning up the Bay, I'd rather not have a mandatory $10 annual contribution, so I'd like to get the 1812 plates.
A friend of mine in the license plate collectors' community has obtained a sample plate in the new design announced yesterday (with the same "MD PROUD" lettering), and it is flat. I don't like flat plates, because they can very easily become covered with mud, snow, et cetera, and therefore become illegible, defeating the primary purpose of a license plate which is to uniquely identify a specific vehicle. Specifically, I've seen this happen with both Iowa and Montana plates, which are now flat. At least if the plate number is embossed (or debossed, as in the case of Vermont), the number can still be read if the plate is dirty, covered with mud or snow. I really hope MVA hasn't decided to produce these as flat plates. It may be cheaper for the state, but there are definitely legibility concerns.
Quote from: tckma on August 31, 2016, 08:05:58 AM
A friend of mine in the license plate collectors' community has obtained a sample plate in the new design announced yesterday (with the same "MD PROUD" lettering), and it is flat. I don't like flat plates, because they can very easily become covered with mud, snow, et cetera, and therefore become illegible, defeating the primary purpose of a license plate which is to uniquely identify a specific vehicle. Specifically, I've seen this happen with both Iowa and Montana plates, which are now flat. At least if the plate number is embossed (or debossed, as in the case of Vermont), the number can still be read if the plate is dirty, covered with mud or snow. I really hope MVA hasn't decided to produce these as flat plates. It may be cheaper for the state, but there are definitely legibility concerns.
The MVA did say on Twitter that the plate will NOT be flat. It will be embossed like all other Maryland Plates.
It looks like they're continuing the lettering series from the War of 1812 plates. I saw three yesterday and they each have the letters CP, which is about where the War of 1812 plates were.
Yep. They're numbered just like California. Cpz should be pleased. They're going to keep using 1812 plates till the stock runs out in other areas.
I got my hands on the new general issue yesterday, and it is indeed embossed, not flat. But the sheet metal is as thin as the 1812 plates.
War of 1812 plates run through 7C/N9999. The MD Proud base starts at 8CN0000 (no stacked letters anymore). So they are continuing the numbering format.
Quote from: F350 on October 09, 2016, 06:02:29 PM
Yep. They're numbered just like California. Cpz should be pleased. They're going to keep using 1812 plates till the stock runs out in other areas.
Not just like California. If they were, the new series would have started as something like 1 AAA 001.
Alternatively, I also like the Ontario sequencing of tag numbers, like AAAA 001.
Quote from: F350 on October 09, 2016, 06:02:29 PM
I got my hands on the new general issue yesterday, and it is indeed embossed, not flat. But the sheet metal is as thin as the 1812 plates.
I have not had to change plates in a very long time, so I have no feel for how thick or thin the metal blanks are (my F250 has a set of Bay plates from 1986), and my Honda Pilot has class "M" plates from 2007.
Honestly, how can this plate not make Marylanders proud to be Marylanders? We probably love our flag more than any resident of any of the other 49 states love their flags.
Quote from: epzik8 on October 20, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
Honestly, how can this plate not make Marylanders proud to be Marylanders? We probably love our flag more than any resident of any of the other 49 states love their flags.
Meh. Our state flag looks like someone vomited on a cloth.
Quote from: epzik8 on October 20, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
Honestly, how can this plate not make Marylanders proud to be Marylanders? We probably love our flag more than any resident of any of the other 49 states love their flags.
I'll agree with the second part...there does seem to be a lot of pride about that flag. The first part though? I don't know of many people where a general license plate makes them proud to be a citizen of their state.
Quote from: tckma on October 20, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 20, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
Honestly, how can this plate not make Marylanders proud to be Marylanders? We probably love our flag more than any resident of any of the other 49 states love their flags.
Meh. Our state flag looks like someone vomited on a cloth.
I
strongly disagree.
It is distinctive and dignified and combines the heraldry of the founder of Maryland as a province, the family of George Calvert, first Lord Baltimore and his Mother's family, the Crosslands. Details here (http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/01glance/html/symbols/flag.html).
Compare and contrast with our friends in Virginia, where they took the obverse of the Great Seal of the the Commonwealth of Virginia (and it
is a great seal) and and just slapped it on a blue background. IMO state flags need to have more than just a replica of the state seal.
Other state flags that I like include Alaska, Arizona, California, New Mexico and South Carolina.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on October 20, 2016, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: tckma on October 20, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 20, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
Honestly, how can this plate not make Marylanders proud to be Marylanders? We probably love our flag more than any resident of any of the other 49 states love their flags.
Meh. Our state flag looks like someone vomited on a cloth.
I strongly disagree.
It is distinctive and dignified and combines the heraldry of the founder of Maryland as a province, the family of George Calvert, first Lord Baltimore and his Mother's family, the Crosslands.
Tory.
Quote from: Rothman on October 20, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on October 20, 2016, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: tckma on October 20, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 20, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
Honestly, how can this plate not make Marylanders proud to be Marylanders? We probably love our flag more than any resident of any of the other 49 states love their flags.
Meh. Our state flag looks like someone vomited on a cloth.
I strongly disagree.
It is distinctive and dignified and combines the heraldry of the founder of Maryland as a province, the family of George Calvert, first Lord Baltimore and his Mother's family, the Crosslands.
Tory.
Catholic.
Which is why he and his descendants worked hard to make Maryland a colony where people could practice there faith without interference from the government - initially for Catholics and Protestants, later extended to Jews. These were radical concepts in the 17th Century.
Quote from: epzik8 on October 20, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
Honestly, how can this plate not make Marylanders proud to be Marylanders? We probably love our flag more than any resident of any of the other 49 states love their flags.
All I know about NJ is our flag is beige. I think.
edit: Oh, hey, it has a horse head on it. That's neat.
Quote from: Alps on October 20, 2016, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 20, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
Honestly, how can this plate not make Marylanders proud to be Marylanders? We probably love our flag more than any resident of any of the other 49 states love their flags.
All I know about NJ is our flag is beige. I think.
Hey, that matches the "classic" New Jersey license plate colors of black on a beige background.
Quote from: Alps on October 20, 2016, 06:45:09 PM
edit: Oh, hey, it has a horse head on it. That's neat.
As long as the horse is not a "fugitive from a glue factory," I am fine with that.
I like Maryland's flag. I don't like the implementation of the new tag design. From any distance, the flag pattern looks like a smear of mud across the bottom of the license plate. Also, the flag pattern unnecessarily extends into the space occupied by the registration serial and thus does legibility no favor.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on October 20, 2016, 08:12:26 PM
All I know about NJ is our flag is beige. I think.
Hey, that matches the "classic" New Jersey license plate colors of black on a beige background.
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Also why New York plates are often blue on that hideous orange, or the reverse. "Official" state colors as on the state flag and state seal.
Quote from: tckma on October 21, 2016, 01:18:43 PM
Also why New York plates are often blue on that hideous orange, or the reverse. "Official" state colors as on the state flag and state seal.
The reverse? I don't know if I've seen that.
The blue-on-orange is a recent development. What was interesting is that people had the option to get the new orange plates; it wasn't mandatory. Some people jumped for the chance, while others held onto their blue-on-white plate as long as they could.
Quote from: Rothman on October 26, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
Quote from: tckma on October 21, 2016, 01:18:43 PM
Also why New York plates are often blue on that hideous orange, or the reverse. "Official" state colors as on the state flag and state seal.
The reverse? I don't know if I've seen that.
Such existed back in the 1960s:
(https://www.shoplicenseplates.com/assets/images/images/1969-New-York-license-plate-9346DX.jpg)
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 26, 2016, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 26, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
Quote from: tckma on October 21, 2016, 01:18:43 PM
Also why New York plates are often blue on that hideous orange, or the reverse. "Official" state colors as on the state flag and state seal.
The reverse? I don't know if I've seen that.
Such existed back in the 1960s:
(https://www.shoplicenseplates.com/assets/images/images/1969-New-York-license-plate-9346DX.jpg)
Gold on blue was used up through 1973, at which time the colors were reversed.
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Oh, old plates. Thought he was talking about more recent developments.
Quote from: Rothman on October 26, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
The blue-on-orange is a recent development. What was interesting is that people had the option to get the new orange plates; it wasn't mandatory. Some people jumped for the chance, while others held onto their blue-on-white plate as long as they could.
I think that's the first time NY allowed that, as opposed to the statewide replates with the 1986 Statue of Liberty base and the 2003 Empire State blue-on-white base.
The 1986 statewide replate seemed to take a long time. I was a kid, maybe 6 or 7 years old, and it seemed like my parents weren't getting the Statue of Liberty plates whereas everyone else did. They first appeared in 86, yet the plates didn't come to us until mid-to-late 1987 (the fact that we moved in December 1986 might have had something to do with that). I remember on the 1987 registration windshield stickers, both the blue-on-orange and the Statue of Liberty plate numbers were both printed.
Every time NY has changed bases, they've offered an extra cost option to keep your old number on the new base, turning it into a vanity plate. That's why you'll see 1970s and 1980s numbers on the newer bases, too.
Quote from: Rothman on October 26, 2016, 12:36:10 PM
Oh, old plates. Thought he was talking about more recent developments.
I seem to recall that New York had a blue-on-orange series of tags sometime in the 1960's.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on October 26, 2016, 03:10:45 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 26, 2016, 12:36:10 PM
Oh, old plates. Thought he was talking about more recent developments.
I seem to recall that New York had a blue-on-orange series of tags sometime in the 1960's.
Alternating years between 1925 and 1963, but the letters were black. Blue on orange didn't appear until the 1973 base.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_New_York (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_New_York)
My dad got the MD Proud plates for his company car!!! He loves the Maryland flag a lot, so it was only a matter of time.
As far as state flag pride, Texas is the only state that gives Maryland a run for its money.
Speaking of applying likenesses of state flags onto items; Southwest Airlines has applied special liveries (resembling respective state flags on the fuselage) for many of the states that they heavily serve.
Southwest's Maryland One plane (due to their large presence at BWI):
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/513bcb31e4b0df53688faccb/t/5566dd67e4b03b2120ae7857/1432804714074/Southwest+Maryland+livery)