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Started by OCGuy81, October 05, 2011, 10:20:06 PM

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kphoger

I think that leaving "Baltimore" on the signs is like erecting a tomb of a different sort.  Its a way for those of us who remain to remember the death of the Interstate highway system and, with it, America herself.  Removing "Baltimore" from those signs is like admitting that everything is fine the way it is.  It would be re-writing history.  It would be pretending that the highway never intended to reach Baltimore in the first place.  And I, for one, am not OK with that.

#keepbaltimore  #neverforget
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.


HighwayStar

Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2021, 03:47:52 PM
I think that leaving "Baltimore" on the signs is like erecting a tomb of a different sort.  Its a way for those of us who remain to remember the death of the Interstate highway system and, with it, America herself.  Removing "Baltimore" from those signs is like admitting that everything is fine the way it is.  It would be re-writing history.  It would be pretending that the highway never intended to reach Baltimore in the first place.  And I, for one, am not OK with that.

#keepbaltimore  #neverforget

That is the beauty of using Baltimore Beltway, it solves for both.
There are those who travel, and those who travel well

kphoger

No.  It's not OK.  It's like saying I-70 was only ever supposed to reach the Beltway.  It ignores the suffering of all those thousands of drivers whose lives have been affected by the unacceptable failure of America to get them to their destination by way of a route with a single number.  It ignores their plight and whitewashes the ugly menace that is I-70.

#keepbaltimore  #neverforget  #i70matters
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: HighwayStar on April 22, 2021, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2021, 03:47:52 PM
I think that leaving "Baltimore" on the signs is like erecting a tomb of a different sort.  Its a way for those of us who remain to remember the death of the Interstate highway system and, with it, America herself.  Removing "Baltimore" from those signs is like admitting that everything is fine the way it is.  It would be re-writing history.  It would be pretending that the highway never intended to reach Baltimore in the first place.  And I, for one, am not OK with that.

#keepbaltimore  #neverforget

That is the beauty of using Baltimore Beltway, it solves for both.
Travelers will be so confused when they see that.
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

HighwayStar

Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2021, 03:52:34 PM
No.  It's not OK.  It's like saying I-70 was only ever supposed to reach the Beltway.  It ignores the suffering of all those thousands of drivers whose lives have been affected by the unacceptable failure of America to get them to their destination by way of a route with a single number.  It ignores their plight and whitewashes the ugly menace that is I-70.

#keepbaltimore  #neverforget  #i70matters

How about Baltimore (fail)?
There are those who travel, and those who travel well

SkyPesos

From what I've seen so far, HighwayStar definitely has the most unique and unpopular opinions on this forum, beating out FritzOwl and Kernals12. You can take this either as a good or bad thing.

hotdogPi

Quote from: HighwayStar on April 22, 2021, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2021, 03:52:34 PM
No.  It's not OK.  It's like saying I-70 was only ever supposed to reach the Beltway.  It ignores the suffering of all those thousands of drivers whose lives have been affected by the unacceptable failure of America to get them to their destination by way of a route with a single number.  It ignores their plight and whitewashes the ugly menace that is I-70.

#keepbaltimore  #neverforget  #i70matters

How about Baltimore (fail)?

Fail existed until 2013 in Portugal.
Clinched

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JayhawkCO

Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2021, 03:52:34 PM
No.  It's not OK.  It's like saying I-70 was only ever supposed to reach the Beltway.  It ignores the suffering of all those hundreds of thousands of drivers whose lives have been affected by the unacceptable failure of America to get them to their destination by way of a route with a single number.  It ignores their plight and whitewashes the ugly menace that is I-70.

#keepbaltimore  #neverforget  #i70matters

Fixed it for you.

Chris

jmacswimmer

Quote from: HighwayStar on April 22, 2021, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2021, 03:52:34 PM
No.  It's not OK.  It's like saying I-70 was only ever supposed to reach the Beltway.  It ignores the suffering of all those thousands of drivers whose lives have been affected by the unacceptable failure of America to get them to their destination by way of a route with a single number.  It ignores their plight and whitewashes the ugly menace that is I-70.

#keepbaltimore  #neverforget  #i70matters

How about Baltimore (fail)?

Can you call up MDOT SHA and suggest this?  I'd absolutely love to hear their response.
"Now, what if da Bearss were to enter the Indianapolis 5-hunnert?"
"How would they compete?"
"Let's say they rode together in a big buss."
"Is Ditka driving?"
"Of course!"
"Then I like da Bear buss."
"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

hbelkins

Sign it "Almost Baltimore, But Not Quite."


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: hbelkins on April 22, 2021, 07:45:12 PM
Sign it "Almost Baltimore, But Not Quite."
"Baltimore suburbs"
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

HighwayStar

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 22, 2021, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 22, 2021, 07:45:12 PM
Sign it "Almost Baltimore, But Not Quite."
"Baltimore suburbs"

Actually both of those are good. Or even, "Baltimore, if we ever grow a pair"
There are those who travel, and those who travel well

kphoger

Quote from: hbelkins on April 22, 2021, 07:45:12 PM
Sign it "Almost Baltimore, But Not Quite."

Shorten it.

Baltimore, ABNQ
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

jmacswimmer

Quote from: HighwayStar on April 23, 2021, 11:01:45 AM
Actually both of those are good. Or even, "Baltimore, if we ever grow a pair"

Done.  Baltimore is okay now!


"Now, what if da Bearss were to enter the Indianapolis 5-hunnert?"
"How would they compete?"
"Let's say they rode together in a big buss."
"Is Ditka driving?"
"Of course!"
"Then I like da Bear buss."
"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

SkyPesos


HighwayStar

There are those who travel, and those who travel well

kphoger

You don't think it's a problem that But Not Quite appears to be a separate destination, accessible via either highway?
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

HighwayStar

Quote from: kphoger on April 23, 2021, 02:11:06 PM
You don't think it's a problem that But Not Quite appears to be a separate destination, accessible via either highway?

Its no more confusing than having the interstate dead end into a damn parking lot.
There are those who travel, and those who travel well

jmacswimmer

Quote from: kphoger on April 23, 2021, 02:11:06 PM
You don't think it's a problem that But Not Quite appears to be a separate destination, accessible via either highway?

I take it you've never heard of But Not Quite, MD?
"Now, what if da Bearss were to enter the Indianapolis 5-hunnert?"
"How would they compete?"
"Let's say they rode together in a big buss."
"Is Ditka driving?"
"Of course!"
"Then I like da Bear buss."
"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

kphoger

Quote from: jmacswimmer on April 23, 2021, 02:15:15 PM
I take it you've never heard of But Not Quite, MD?

did not include google map link
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

jmacswimmer

Quote from: kphoger on April 23, 2021, 02:26:30 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on April 23, 2021, 02:15:15 PM
I take it you've never heard of But Not Quite, MD?
did not include google map link

It's a very small, yet elongated city that both I-70 & I-270 briefly pass thru before reaching Baltimore and Washington respectively, thus rendering it an acceptable control city for both routes.

"Now, what if da Bearss were to enter the Indianapolis 5-hunnert?"
"How would they compete?"
"Let's say they rode together in a big buss."
"Is Ditka driving?"
"Of course!"
"Then I like da Bear buss."
"DA BEARSSS BUSSSS"

kphoger

I don't think that's an actual Google Maps boundary, there.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

hbelkins

Quote from: HighwayStar on April 23, 2021, 02:13:46 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 23, 2021, 02:11:06 PM
You don't think it's a problem that But Not Quite appears to be a separate destination, accessible via either highway?

Its no more confusing than having the interstate dead end into a damn parking lot.

How is that confusing? The parking lot is in Baltimore's city limits, after all.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

kphoger

Quote from: HighwayStar on April 23, 2021, 02:13:46 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 23, 2021, 02:11:06 PM
You don't think it's a problem that But Not Quite appears to be a separate destination, accessible via either highway?

Its no more confusing than having the interstate dead end into a damn parking lot.

Are people mistakenly driving into that parking lot out of confusion?
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Mr_Northside

Quote from: HighwayStar on April 23, 2021, 02:13:46 PM
Its no more confusing than having the interstate dead end into a damn parking lot.

Not that I know (or at the moment, personally have reason to care) where the municipal boundaries for the city (or even county) of Baltimore are..... for the general motoring public, I do believe SHA put up signs explicitly saying that I-70 ends at I-695.  While that might not be technically true, the only people who might know that have no business being confused at "having the interstate dead end into a damn parking lot.".
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