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yakra:
As we know, the Muskogee Turkpike and Creek Turkpike have been designated as OK351 and OK364.

My original thought was to remove them from the USA Select Freeways system as redundant.

But now, I'm leaning toward leaving them in USASF, and having them as both OK numbered routes and OK Turnpikes.
This sets the stage for breaking off the Oklahoma Turnpikes into their own discrete set, and including the whole lot of`em. Even the Chickasaw. Thoughts?

english si:
Breaking off the OK Turnpikes makes sense (with no reason why that cannot happen ASAP - you are splitting a system, rather than making a new one). Likewise KY and NY.

If they are signed with their names, then surely have them in usasf or usaokt. If they are signed with their numbers, then absolutely include them there. If signed with both, then there's no reason to not have them in both.

oscar:
Especially with the small number of unnumbered OK turnpikes, why not just fold them into usaok as named routes (as with the Ontario Freeways set), rather than adding new small, state-specific route sets?

The issue of whether we should be more flexible in adding named routes to numbered route sets will come up in states without turnpike or parkway systems. If we decide to add named routes in "regular" state route systems, that would hasten the demise of usasf, much like the parallel "grab bag" system of numbered state freeways will disappear as we add new state route sets.

Bickendan:
At the risk of opening a can of worms: California's named freeways that don't line up with their route numbers?
Golden State Freeway - I-5/CA 99
Ventura Freeway - CA 134/US 101
Hollywood Freeway - US 101/CA 170
Santa Ana Freeway - I-5/US 101
San Diego Freeway - I-5/I-405
and a few others

And worse: Arguably the entire Oregon highway/route system.

That said, I'm happy to leave things with OK, KY and NY...

oscar:

--- Quote from: Bickendan on September 03, 2015, 06:53:10 PM ---At the risk of opening a can of worms: California's named freeways that don't line up with their route numbers?
Golden State Freeway - I-5/CA 99
Ventura Freeway - CA 134/US 101
Hollywood Freeway - US 101/CA 170
Santa Ana Freeway - I-5/US 101
San Diego Freeway - I-5/I-405
and a few others

And worse: Arguably the entire Oregon highway/route system.

--- End quote ---

That is not uncommon in other states. Certainly Alaska and Hawaii are full of such examples. AK 1 splices together part or all of the Sterling Highway, Seward Highway, Glenn Highway, Richardson Highway, and the Tok Cut-Off, with other parts of the Seward and the Richardson assigned one or two other route numbers. The Kamehameha Highway on Oahu goes through nine route number changes, while HI 19 on the Big Island goes through ten name changes.

Fortunately, where there is a route number, for Travel Mapping we don't have to pay attention to the route name.

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