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tchafe1978:

--- Quote from: webny99 on March 24, 2023, 09:35:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: thspfc on March 23, 2023, 09:43:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Big John on March 23, 2023, 08:48:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 23, 2023, 08:41:20 PM ---Wondering what's taking so long to announce the Rodgers news.

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Both teams are at an impasse to wha compensation to give.  Odd due the usual practice of agreeing to terms of a trade before a team is given permission to talk trade to a player on the other team.

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Mark Murphy massively screwed up by saying that they’d prefer to not have Rodgers back - at a high school girls basketball game, no less. He said they’d welcome him back “if things don’t work out they way we want them to.” Which decreases Green Bay’s bargaining power, and therefore the compensation they will get. Sometimes I wonder if the higher-ups in Green Bay realize that they’re running a professional sports franchise, not a local restaurant. Having an owner would probably help.

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But the irony is that Green Bay still has a lot of leverage. The Jets basically have to get a deal done for Rodgers since they're stuck without a QB if they don't, and they have much more incentive to get it done quickly while Green Bay has no reason to be concerned about the time frame.

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The Packers can also lessen their cap hit if they wait until after June 1st to trade him. The can trade him anywhere from June 1st to the start of week 1 of the season. So there is some incentive for the Packers to wait. The only thing is they also probably reduced what they'll get in return by waiting and only negotiating with one other team. They could've gotten another team involved to increase the competition and get other teams into a bidding war. But Rodgers called the shots there by saying he wanted to go to the Jets and took other teams out of the equation.

thspfc:

--- Quote from: tchafe1978 on March 25, 2023, 12:08:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: webny99 on March 24, 2023, 09:35:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: thspfc on March 23, 2023, 09:43:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Big John on March 23, 2023, 08:48:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 23, 2023, 08:41:20 PM ---Wondering what's taking so long to announce the Rodgers news.

--- End quote ---
Both teams are at an impasse to wha compensation to give.  Odd due the usual practice of agreeing to terms of a trade before a team is given permission to talk trade to a player on the other team.

--- End quote ---
Mark Murphy massively screwed up by saying that they’d prefer to not have Rodgers back - at a high school girls basketball game, no less. He said they’d welcome him back “if things don’t work out they way we want them to.” Which decreases Green Bay’s bargaining power, and therefore the compensation they will get. Sometimes I wonder if the higher-ups in Green Bay realize that they’re running a professional sports franchise, not a local restaurant. Having an owner would probably help.

--- End quote ---

But the irony is that Green Bay still has a lot of leverage. The Jets basically have to get a deal done for Rodgers since they're stuck without a QB if they don't, and they have much more incentive to get it done quickly while Green Bay has no reason to be concerned about the time frame.

--- End quote ---

The Packers can also lessen their cap hit if they wait until after June 1st to trade him. The can trade him anywhere from June 1st to the start of week 1 of the season. So there is some incentive for the Packers to wait. The only thing is they also probably reduced what they'll get in return by waiting and only negotiating with one other team. They could've gotten another team involved to increase the competition and get other teams into a bidding war. But Rodgers called the shots there by saying he wanted to go to the Jets and took other teams out of the equation.

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Also, if they don’t do it by draft day, they won’t get any 2023 picks in return. They’d rather have extra 2023 picks than extra 2024 picks because it’s important to have a competent roster around Love (o-line and receivers in particular) so that they can properly evaluate him this season.

triplemultiplex:

--- Quote from: thspfc on March 23, 2023, 09:43:45 PM ---Sometimes I wonder if the higher-ups in Green Bay realize that they’re running a professional sports franchise, not a local restaurant. Having an owner would probably help.

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Yeah because having a billionaire own the team will insulate it from generations of terrible decisions. :rolleyes:  :eyebrow: :meh:
That's worked so well in Detroit, Houston, Chicago, Cleveland, Washington, or any other bastion of mediocrity from the last quarter century.

The Packers got the lack of ownership thing right.  One less ego to stroke in an ecosystem that attracts the self-important like flies to corpse.

thspfc:

--- Quote from: triplemultiplex on March 25, 2023, 02:50:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: thspfc on March 23, 2023, 09:43:45 PM ---Sometimes I wonder if the higher-ups in Green Bay realize that they’re running a professional sports franchise, not a local restaurant. Having an owner would probably help.

--- End quote ---

Yeah because having a billionaire own the team will insulate it from generations of terrible decisions. :rolleyes:  :eyebrow: :meh:
That's worked so well in Detroit, Houston, Chicago, Cleveland, Washington, or any other bastion of mediocrity from the last quarter century.

The Packers got the lack of ownership thing right.  One less ego to stroke in an ecosystem that attracts the self-important like flies to corpse.

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1) I never said that an owner is better for every situation, 2) it’s ignorant to pin the blame for the failures of the teams you listed all on the owners, and 3) it’s ignorant to attribute the successes of the Packers to the lack of an owner, and assume that they wouldn’t be as strong as a franchise if they had an owner.

triplemultiplex:
You said an owner would help.  I dispute that, citing many examples of poorly-owned NFL franchises.

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